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Sir Donald III
Sep 29, 2004, 07:40 PM
Thank you all for... uh... being drawn off to Governorships :D

Anyway... I'll try to put my reports in the second post. I may forget though, so use this thread to remind me.

In this period where so many people becoem absent, I will try to keep our pocketbooks fluid... er... um... Yeah...

Sir Donald III
Sep 29, 2004, 07:42 PM
Status as of 360 AD (Now 100 BS, also 860 PM)

Our Coffers have 93 Gold

At 50% Sci, 0% Lux:
We get 205 GPT from Cities
We get 5 GPT from Babylon
We lose 54 GPT to Corruption
We lose 40 GPT to Maintnence
We lose 20 GPT to Unit Costs

We have 88 GPT devoted to Science
Leaving 8 GPT income to treasury.

Happiness List (gets a Smiley @10%): Faantikku (2), Furuyama, Immo, Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu, Corrino, Osgiliath, En'Gha, Sto'vo'kor, Windurst, Pete.

Recommendation: To prevent mass Disorders around Turn 10, the DP is allowed to increase the Lux Slider on Turn 4 (when Odawara Grows and is on the verge of Disorder.)

Science should be on the highest level that grants us positive GPT.
Exception: If a tech is 1 turn away at current level, mark the lowest level that it stays at 1 turn, then increase Slider 1 point (10%) from there.)


Status as of Date of Samurai! (460 AD)

We have 231 Gold Currently.

We have an Income of 257 Gold @ 50% Sci, 73 of which is lost to corruption.

We also get 1 Gold from taxmen (once I make a change in Rome and Doomsville) and 27 from other Civs.

Expenses include 47 Maintnence and 26 in Unit Costs.

10% List: Fanatikku (2), Furuyama, Immo, Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Corrino, Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'Vo'Kor, Windurst

Upgrades:
Spears to Pikes = 20 Gold
Horses to Samurai = 80 Gold

Rushes:
Temple at Nihilon (88 Gold/11 Turns)
Temple at Gerunshi (72 Gold/9 Turns)
Temple of Doom...sville (88 Gold/22 Turns)
Temple at Hispalis (116 Gold/29 Turns)

Status as of Contact with the... Other Side! (10 SD, 470 AD, 970 PM)

We have 291 Gold.

Income:
At 50% Sci: 262 Domestic Income (Cities & Taxman), 75 Lost to corruption.
We are currently receiving 27 Gold from other Civs.

Outlays:
48 Building Maintnence
26 Unit Cost

Happiness List (10%): Fanatikku (2), Furuyama, Immo, Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Corrino, Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'Vo'Kor, Windurst, Pete


Status upon the Millenial Aniversary of the Shogunate! (500 AD)

We have 617 Gold!

New Gold Calcuations:
Raw Score comes from 100% Happiness:
We make 382 GPT, 113 of which is lost to Corruption

Market Bonus (all 0's): 30 GPT (412)
Science Bonus (Sci 100%): 70 GPT (452)

We also have 1 Taxman, and get 41 GPT from other Civs.

We lose 49 Gold to Maintnence, and 21 to Unit Costs.

10% Happy List: Fanatikku (3!), Furuyama, Immo (2), Epolenep, Zojoji (2), Odawara (2), Shorin-Ryu (2), Regent, Corrino (2), Osgiliath (2), En'Gha(2), Sto'Vo'Kor (2), Windurst, Pete, Manchai

Recommendations:
Maintain Max Science while running Non-Negative GPT.
During our Golden Age, it will be required to have 3 Cities on this list go into Disorder before the Lux Slider can be raised.


Status as of 1060 PM / 610 AD

We currently have 110 Gold.

At 80% Science, We have Income of 524 from Cities (150 of which is lost to corruption, Net = 374), 4 from Taxmen, and 51 from other Civs.

Maintnence is 77 Gold, Unit Costs are 26.

10% Happy List: Fanatikku (3!), Furuyama, Immo (2), Epolenep, Zojoji (2), Odawara (2), Shorin-Ryu (3!), Regent, Corrino (2), Nihilion, Osgiliath (2), En'Gha(2), Sto'Vo'Kor (2), Windurst (2), Pete, Manchai

In addition, I'm happy to report that En'Gha is celebrating "We Love the Chieftess Day".


Status at the end of our Golden Age (710 AD)

Forgot to get how much Gold we have. But, it's a lot... over 600 IIRC

We get about 385 Gold from cities, 101 of which is lost to corruption.
Taxmen give us 2 Gold
Other Civs give us 91. (Mostly overseas civs for Banking.)

We lose 96 to Maintnence
32 to Unit Costs

10% Happy List: Fanatikku (2), Furuyama, Immo, Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Regent, Corrino (2), Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'vo'Kor, Windurst, Pete, Manchai

Current Expendatures:
72 Gold to rush the K____ Temple.

Agenda Issues:
Where to Build Wall Street once we get 5 Banks. 300 shields Required.


Status as of 790 AD:

We currently have 761 Gold.

Income is 327 from Cities with 115 lost to corruption. Bonuses are 82 for Taxes and 101 for Research.

We also get 125 Gold from other Civs.

Maintnence takes up 105 Gold while Unit Costs amount to 36.

10% List: Fanatikku (2), Furuyama, Immo, Epoilenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Corrino (2), Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'vo'kor, Windurst, Pete, Manchai

Possible purchases are on Item 16. Oh, and Corrino is celebrating "We Love the Shogun Day".


Status as of 890 AD:

WE curently have 1179 Gold.

We get 355 Gold naturally, 120 of which is lost to corruption:
Marketplace Bonus: 91 (446)
Science Bonus: 146 (501)

Taxmen give us 3 GPT
Other Civs give us 95 GPT

We lose 120 to Maintnence
We lose 47 to Unit Costs


10% Happy List: Faantikku (2), Furuyama, Doomsville ;), Immo (2), Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Regent Town, Corrino (2), Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'vo'kor (2), Windurst, Pete, Manchai


Status as of 980 AD:

We have 927 Gold.

At full Happiness, we have 378 GPT, 127 lost to Corruption.
Economy Bonus: 113 (491)
Science Bonus: 166 (544)

We currently have 3 Taxmen active,
Take 61 Gold from other Civs (and look to Double that at least...)
Lose 112 Gold to Maintnence
And lose 57 to the Military.

10% Happiness List: Roma, Faantikku (2), Furuyama, Doomsville, Immo (2), Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu, Regent, Corrino (2), Osgiliath, En'Gha (2), Sto'vo'Kor (2), Windurst, Pete, Manchai


Status as of 1090 AD.

We currently have 2024 Gold. Talk about a Golden Age!

At Full science, we get 581 from our cities, 138 of which is lost to corruption
A single Taxman contributes 1 GPT
While other Civs give us 274 GPT

Which more than pays for our Maintnence (125) and Unit Cost (59)

10% List: Roma, Fanatikku (2), Furuyama, Doomsville, Immo (2), Epolenep, Zojoji, Odawara, Shorin-Ryu (2), Regent Town, Corrino (2), Osgiliath (2), En'Gha (2), Sto'Vo'Kor (2), Windurst, Pete, Manchai

blackheart
Sep 30, 2004, 02:05 PM
In this period where so many people becoem absent, I will try to keep our pocketbooks fluid... er... um... Yeah...

Fluid enough to fill my pockets ;)

Strider
Sep 30, 2004, 03:52 PM
Congratulation on the victory Minister Donald the III.

What is your view on the sliders? Should we try to make enough money (have research chivarly of course) to buy techs, by turning down science, or be self-sufficient?

invy
Sep 30, 2004, 05:27 PM
Great Minister,
I'm going to request from President to slow Odawara's growth by switching laborer from the plains to desert. Odawara will not riot in next 11 turns. And soon we'll have Cathedral there.

Epimethius
Sep 30, 2004, 08:27 PM
I would like to apply for the position of Deputy Minister of Domestic Affairs. As you can see by my signiture, I have experiance in that job.

Sir Donald III
Oct 01, 2004, 12:20 AM
Well, that makes 2 in the ring, because I have had PM contacts with MSTK and he said he was interested.

Maybe I should throw out a general call for advise on this matter. After all, I'll have to trust the guy I pick to get things done, and done my way (within reason), while I'm out.

EDIT: In the meantime, Epi, perhaps you should get that draft for the Mid-Term Elections Ammendment Code.

EDIT #2: Perhaps the Appkicants could give me about a paragraph (maybe 2) on why they sould be my Deputy. Post in this thread, please.

Deadline is 1700 GMT Monday the 4th. (About Noon, My time.)

Furiey
Oct 02, 2004, 06:55 PM
Minister Sir Donald III

I notice that you include in your instructions what to do with the Settler that was dropped off by Pete. There has been some discussion in the forums concerning the Military plans against Rome, and talk of using Settlers to replace autorazed Roman cities. As a result it appears that a Settler is to be equipped in Immo and another in Odawara early in the next turnchat. You may wish to revise your instructions so that it will be clear what should be done with any Settlers produced.

Furiey

invy
Oct 03, 2004, 04:00 AM
Good point Furiey!

Also I think we could use settlers from Immo and Odawara to join them smaller cities. I especially have in mind Corrino which would gain 4 shields and much time. Furuyama also could use a boost, Eridu and maybe some other cities.
Odawara and Immo have way too much food which can be used to strenghten our other smaller cities.
I would really like to hear your opinion about this matter.

Sir Donald III
Oct 03, 2004, 09:51 AM
Interesting Suggestion, Governor. If we have Settlers still active once all the Roman Land has been conquered, and we have a period of peace, I will consider this.

It might be just as well for the purposes of "Transplants" to use Workers instead, however. (Net savings of 10 Shields.)

blackheart
Oct 03, 2004, 11:14 AM
Instead of using them for booster shots we should build more settlers. We need a steady reserve of settlers on hand incase an opportunity should present itself where we can found a new city.

Sir Donald III
Oct 03, 2004, 11:17 AM
Like I said, if we have a period of peace. Post-War redevlopment would require Settlers in razed sectors.

invy
Oct 03, 2004, 02:32 PM
Interesting Suggestion, Governor. If we have Settlers still active once all the Roman Land has been conquered, and we have a period of peace, I will consider this.

It might be just as well for the purposes of "Transplants" to use Workers instead, however. (Net savings of 10 Shields.)

OK, thx :)

Sir Donald III
Oct 03, 2004, 09:44 PM
Status Updated.

Recommended Slider actions:

Luxes: Use Specialists to curb Disorder.
Science: I'm not sure whether to go all Positives (70%, 5GPT), or go +10 (60%, 23GPT)

EDIT: Domestic will also donate 100 Gold more-or-less (depending on how much is needed) if necessary and budget up to 5 GPT towards Global Contacts.

TimBentley
Oct 03, 2004, 10:09 PM
With my recommended laborer reallocation in Pete, 10% lux would produce a happy face. You may wish to wait until the queues have been posted in the turnchat thread before updating the status if you wish.

Chieftess
Oct 08, 2004, 10:41 PM
I'm requesting that the Domestic Advisor allow cash for horsemen upgrades. We currently only have 1 samurai. Most cities are building markets and cathedrals.

Sir Donald III
Oct 17, 2004, 02:35 PM
This is of special interest to the Military and Foreign Departments.

800 Gold to upgrade 15 Spearmen to Muskets. (80 Each)

780 Gold to upgrade 19 Pikemen to Muskets. (60 Each)

112 Gold to rush temple at Ibabango (28 Turns)

40 Gold to upgrade 2 Galleys to Caravels. (Not in Harbor at this time, but both are 1 away and have Movement Points.)

We also still have 2 Horsemen (80 for Samurai) and 2 Warriors (40 each for Swordsmen). Both Warriors and 1 Horse are in the North, the other Horse is in the East.


Embassies:
Babs = 43 Gold
Zulu = 45 Gold
Germany = 83 Gold
India = 56 Gold
Russia = 90 Gold
China = 108 Gold
America = 63 Gold
Aztecs = 78 Gold

Rik Meleet
Oct 19, 2004, 05:52 PM
Dear Minister Sir Donald III

I request a small donation from the Domestic office to cashrush an aquaduct in Furuyama. In about 12 turns it is about to grow to size 7, but the lack of an aquaduct is blocking that. When 11 turns have passed an estimated 82 shields are still needed, costing us about 328 gold.

Will you look into this ?
I suppose it won't be for the upcoming TC, but by the TC thereafter I'd like a definite answer.

Regards,
Rik Meleet
Governor of Zarnia.

invy
Oct 20, 2004, 08:05 AM
Lord Sir :) DonIII,
I suggest to Domestic Office to consider rushing Courthouse in Rome next TC.

invy
Oct 22, 2004, 05:19 PM
Lord Sir :) DonIII,
I suggest to Domestic Office to make discussion and then poll Forbidden Palace location as soon as possible. Since pacifists have prevailed Odawara has obviously become the best place for FP. Odawara currently have only Colloseum and Granary to build (done in 8 turns) and after that it doesn't have very useful builds because we don't need more army or workers. Therefore I suggest to start this project immediately.

Ashburnham
Oct 23, 2004, 04:53 PM
Fellow Minister,

It seems the power of naming geographic locations falls under your realm of control. Thus, I ask you to consider the suggestions made in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=102822) for naming the continents. With our involvement in the other continent likely to increase soon there's no reason we should have to keep calling it "the other continent".


Thank you,
Pope Ashburnham

Civanator
Oct 23, 2004, 05:50 PM
Dear Minister Sir Donald III,

As of now I have these requested upgrades, along with the ones from last week:

Galley->Caravel (1 N Manchai)
Galley->Caravel (1 W Sto'vo'Kor)

The following Vet Spear can be upgraded directly on turn 0 for a cost of 240g (3x80):

Fanatikku: 1 Vet Spear
Immo: 1 Vet Spear
Zojoji: 1 Vet Spear

The following Vet Spear need to be rotated to a barracks for upgrade on turn 1 for a cost of 80g:

Windurst: 1 Vet Spear
Upgrade plan:
Turn 0-1: Move vet spear from Windurst to Bentropolis and move reg warrior from Pete to Windurst
Turn 1: Upgrade vet spear in Bentropolis.
Turn 1-2: optional move unit from Betropolis to Windurst

That is all.

Regards,
First General Civanator

CivGeneral
Oct 26, 2004, 10:20 PM
Sir Donald the 3rd,

I wish for the approval of the funds to construct embassies in the following civs

Babylon: 45g
Aztecs: 78g
America: 64g

Cyc
Oct 28, 2004, 01:24 AM
Dear Domestic Minister ~ I would suggest working with the Cultural Department in trying to get En'Gha switched to a Palace pre-build and Odawara switched to the Wall Street Wonder. These would seem to be logical moves if we are going to place the FP further South in captured Iroquois territory.

invy
Oct 29, 2004, 05:09 PM
Please coordinate with Miltary office about our goals in Iro war.
We must know which cities are we going to conquer (if any) and what would be best location for our Forbidden Palace. If MSAV doesn't intend to conquer most Iros cities and to later attack Babilon then we should finish Forbidden Palace in Odawara as we planned before war.

Civanator
Oct 30, 2004, 02:34 PM
Dear Minister Sir Donald III,

The MSAV requests 160g to upgrade 4 catapults to cannons. The locations are:
Zojoji (2)
Immo
Doomsville.


On other matters, the MSAV plans to take Mauch Chunk during this TC if we go to war, and possibly Veii. If Babylon declares war we may even take Ellipi and the Wines of Wrath, which will bring us more income and happoer citizens.


Regards,
Minister Civanator

blackheart
Oct 30, 2004, 05:36 PM
Honored Minister and soon-to-be president SD3,

I was wondering if you have any plans to poll the switch of governments, there is overwhelming support for a change of government in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103283).

Sir Donald III
Oct 31, 2004, 12:28 AM
Personally, I would like to hold off on any Governmental Changes until after the comming War. War Weariness and all that rot. I'm wondering if it's my call or Minister-Elect Zarn's after tommorow.

blackheart
Oct 31, 2004, 10:40 AM
I think it's Zarn's call when the new term starts, but thanks for considering this SD3, especially on such short notice.