Welcome to Edo, Eastern Province of Japanatica Empire!

Short history of the province:

Edo Province was established in 110 AD by official goverment of Japanatica. In the time it was the most eastern province of Japanatica bordering with Roman Empire and facing certain war. It included four cities: Odawara, Shorin-Ryu, En'Gha/Ryleh (now En'Gha) and Corrino. In 510 AD Duckburg was established as 5th city. The first appointed governor was Invy who also named the province (Edo) and selected Odawara as capital of Edo. Deputy Governor was Epimethius. In Term 3 elections Invy won the governor's chair and elected deputy is Noldodan; the pair is currently in power of the province...

Governor: Invy
Deputy: Noldodan

Capital of Province: Odawara

Map of Edo Province in 790AD
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/edo790AD.JPG

Provincial cities:
For detailed informations about specific cities follow the links:
Odawara (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98487)
En'Gha (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101678)
Shorin-Ryu (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=102000)
Corrino (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101572)

I'll keep track on Duckburg's progress until mayor is appointed.

Duckburg

Mayor:
Founded: 520 AD
Population: 2 (food surplus +1 / growth in 8)
Citizens: 2 :)
Shields: 3/5
Commerce: 3/5
Improvements: Temple
Culture: 36 / 2 per turn / expand in 32 turns
Garisson: 1 Pikeman
Building queue: Library (8 turns)

Main Province Info

View of historical progress and growth of Edo:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/edo_table.JPG

To be updated...(going to add some charts, top cities)

Term 3 summary (890AD) - MAIN GOALS:

1. Get 3 largest cities to 15 shield per turn
- Shorin-Ryu: 22/27 *Japanatica top production city together with Zojoji
- Odawara 18/25
- En'Gha 14/17 *just waiting for 1 more mine
- Corrino 13/16 *Corino has grown into great city and will be able to get
15 shields in 3 turns after it grows.

2. Get Corrino to 7-9 population
Corrino is at 8 population, grows in 3 turns. It is 2nd top commercial producer of Japanatica behind our capital for just 1 gold piece, tho Corrino does produce more raw commerce but also loses more due to corruption.

3. Solve unhapiness problems to allow cities to get 12 population
Markeplaces, Cathedrals, Universities have been built in all cities, Banks will be in all cities after next TC (Shorin-Ryu is building a Bank atm)
Population:
- Shorin-Ryu 11; Odawara 12; En'Gha 12; Corrino 8; Duckburg 3

4. Find mayors for all cities

Corrino: JackA
En'Gha: ali
Shorin-Ryu: Gregski
odawara: Epimethius
Duckburg: none yet

5. Poll the Province name
Poll has been finished Official province name is: Edo.
Poll results: 17 YES, 1 NO, 2 ABSTAIN.

6. Make space and infrastructure for newly established city
-All jungles are cleared and tiles worked. Barracks, Temple and Library
have been built. Ducburg is currently at 3 population.

Misc

- We have built a Wonder! Smith's Trading Company is in Shorin-Ryu. Odawara is destined to win the poll for building Forbidden Palace.

- The province got new city Duckburg in 520 AD. The idea for settling was
proposed by me but SirDonIII's site won the poll :).

- During Roman war all province cities were producing military units and
after victory infrastructure was built, thanks to Golden Age almost all
improvements were build.

- Conquered Roman cities were part of Edo province this term and they will belong new province next term.

- New provincial borders have passed the poll and Doomsville (ex Antium) is
set to join Edo province in Term 4.

I'll update this post until new governor is elected. I don't intend to candidate for any positions this Term due to lack of time. I am going to be active citizen as before and I'll probably spend more time in Office for statistics. Thanks to everyone who have helped me governing this beautiful province.

Corrino: Horseman (1) -> Pikeman (4) -> Pikeman (6)

Shorin-Ryu: Pikeman (1) -> Horseman (3) -> Horseman (3) -> Horseman (3)

En'Gha: Horseman (3) -> Pikeman (3) -> Horseman (3) -> Pikeman (3)

Odawara: Settler (3) -> Courthouse (9) (as prebuild for Cathedral)

Workers

*Try to achieve these goals, use Worker force as you see best.

- Mine 2 Odawara hills. (DO NOT clear yet last Odawara forest)
- Mine 2 En'Gha hills.
- Irrigate grassland (under forest) at Corrino when the forest is chopped. Mine if we get bonus grassland.
- Mine 2 Shorin-Ryu hills. Try to get 15 shields in Shorin.

Well, I don't like the name, but that's true of any name not picked by me. :p

Congrats on winning another term, Invy.

And I was wondering if I could get full control over Odawara's build queue. Since mayor is my only real position, I'd like to be more than just an advisor for it.

Well, I don't like the name, but that's true of any name not picked by me. :p

Congrats on winning another term, Invy.

And I was wondering if I could get full control over Odawara's build queue. Since mayor is my only real position, I'd like to be more than just an advisor for it.
invy cant change the constitution epi,
also if you remember the JR over the naming office/non constituional offices that also applies here,
goverment positions not in the constitution cannot post legal instructions
plus thats a really bad idea, you arent elected thus you cant be taken out of office

I'd just post them and then he'd rubberstamp them, that's all. :p

I'd just post them and then he'd rubberstamp them, that's all. :p
then what is the difference between that and being an advisor?

I'd do all the gubernatorial work for the town, like queues, workers, etc. As it is now I simply advice him on what to build and where to put things. I'd submit it in the city thread before each chat.

Thanks Epi.

You are in control of Odawara as a mayor and you should post instructions here before TCs. I was going to ask you to play more active role in this term because you didn't post in short period of term 2 while i was governor.
If you can convince me that your suggestions are better then mine then they will be accepted. This goes for future plans in Odawara, laborer allocations, worker allocations and building qeues.

Feel free to post your qeue for Odawara and suggestions. Comment what you don't like and what would you want. Get arguments here and if they are good then practically I will post your instructions in TCIT.
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For next TC: We're already having large number of units and producing even more. I think Odawara can switch to Courthouse since its corrupted around 40%. We have bonus shields because forest will be cleaned in 2 turns.
Oda is too large so I intend to switch laborer from floods to desert to slow growth and increase production. I would like to get 15 shields per turn in Odawara.
Then obviously we need Cathedral, Colosseum or Marketplace to fight unhapiness (in order to get 12 pop). I prefer Cathedral because we're religious civilization. I'm going building Colosseum as prebuild to make things go as fast as possiible.
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This is my plan, if you agree/disagree in some aspects then propose another plan (or alter mine). I still didn't look at Worker actions and I would appreciate those suggestions also.

I will probably post a nomination thread for 3 free mayor positions in the province after next TC so stay tuned.
I'm still trying to find Noldo to help me, where are you Noldo :confused: :) .

Poll: Eastern Province name (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101273)

Nominations: Candidate for 1 of 3 possible mayor positions in the province. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101276)

I think the plan looks good, though I think we should swich the laborer back to the flood plains after the courthouse is completed.

Since Rome is not yet a sperate province, we now have Doomsville (Antium) and Baldur's Gate (Pompeii).

I'll be engaging a "Provinvial Congress" soon. But for now...

Lord or Madame Governor (not sure which...)

In its curent configuration, Rome is only producing 1 Shield per turn and has 2 Taxmen.

Given that we will soon have Luxuries in that area, I propose that we micromange this city as shown in the Pic.

Also, it is now safe to put the single person in Doomsville back on Labor.

Odawara: Courthouse (4) -> Cathedral (9)
*switch desert to flood plain (growth in 5, production the same)
*after Courthouse is finished switch laborer back to get fastest Cathedral
*switch desert to En'Gha mine in 2
En'Gha: Cathedral (7) -> Marketplace (10)
*give Oda an En'Gha hill mine in 2 turns please. switch En'Gha to another mine
Shorin-Ryu: Cathedral (4) -> Marketplace (8)
*switch desert to hill mine in 2 turns
Corrino: Cathedral (14)
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Rome: Temple (26)
*change taxmen to laborer -> work on bonus grassland
Doomsville: Temple (22)
*change clown to laborer - work on plains
*if under my supervision: Ravenna, Hispalis: Temples

-try not to forget these laborer allocations :)

Workers

- Finish 2 started mines near En'Gha
- Irrigate Odawara's flood tiles and mine 2 Oda hills (use some of En'Gha workers)
- Clear Corrino forest and irrigate it
- mine 2 Shorin hills; IMPORTANT: irrigate bonus grassland or wine tile (DP discretion - because Shorin can't grow much more).

Subject to change, especially if we get in war with some of our neighbours.
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SirDonIII your suggestions is accepted. I'd like to ask you now to consider boosting Corrino population with 1 of our 3 Settlers.

Odawara City Advice For 460 AD

Build Queue: Courthouse >> Marketplace >> Granary

Laborer Placement: Move remaining desert mine laborer to irrigated plain.

Worker Distribution: Please move two of the eight workers mining south of En'Gha to irrigate the second wheat, and one to help complete the road to Baldur's Gate.

Odawara seems to be having growth problems, so I've asked that the second wheat (which is already being worked) be irrigated, and that a laborer be moved to the plains, which produce more food (with a minimal loss of shields). I've asked that these workers come from the large group south of En'Gha, which has far more than it needs. I've also asked one of these be sent to help finish the road to Baldur's Gate, which has been under construction for a while. I'm asking that a marketplace be built after the cathedral (since it boosts taxes and happiness), followed by a granary (to help with the food problem).

Nice to see that post Epi, finally active :).

You have the point about that laborer. Considering relocation I checked and we can switch desert directly to flood plain tile. The difference from plain is growth in 5 (plain would be 6) ans loss of 2 shields instead of 1 (on plain). But Courthouse will be anyway finished in 4.
So, it would be best to switch desert for next 4 turns to flood plain and then to plain.
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Odawara doesn't really have the growth problem. We could make it now to grow in 3 turns if we want but Courthouse would be in 5 then. Note that we can achieve this by working on UNIRRIGATED tiles. I'll suggest DP to irrigate those floods and to build 2 mines in Odawara (to use hills instead of deserts).
Thats why we don't really need Granary yet. Road to Baldurs will be done in 2 so there is no time to send any help there.

However, we have unhapiness problem. Marketplace would get Oda 1 content face happy, 2nd and 3rd when furs is connected (26 turns).This is minimal effect (unless we get furs earlier) and that way we can't boost to 12 pop yet. Cathedraly is 3 turns cheaper than Market and will make 3 :/ to 3| face, so we could get Oda to 12 pop. Also, building Market would bring 3-4 more coins (currently), and Cathedral +3 culture.

What do you think about: Courthouse (4) -> Cathedral (9)* -> Market (12)*? these * will be faster when the Courthouse is built. This qeue will be finished before we get Furs and should result: 4 :) 4 :| 4 :(.And we would have possibilite for 1 more MP unit. After Furs 6 :) 2| 4 :(.
I'm still considering Market before Cathedral but it seems Cathedral is little better option for pop boost because we don't have many luxuries. However if we get Furs or some other luxury earlier than I agree that Market -> Cathedral is the way to go.

EDIT: There is proposal to rush Hispalis temple = Furs earlier. I suggest going there and supporting that proposal. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2234091&posted=1#post2234091)

Info and province photo is updated.
Notice yellow numbers 1 and 2 on the map. Those are 2 proposals for building a new city in Edo province, and probably will be polled soon (if domestic decides so). I suggest voting for spot #2. Follow this link to join discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101330).

There is also a proposal for establishing Rome province. Since its our neigbour we do have interest in that matter. Join the discussion. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101401)

It looks like temple in Hispalis will be rushed. I changed a bit instructions for Rome. And Odawara is now building Marketplace as suggested by Epimethius.

I did the worker jobs,govenor.Would you like me to upload the save?

I did the worker jobs,govenor.Would you like me to upload the save?
Hm.. you can't do that :) There is no need to upload the save.
The president is only player who is actually playing the moves. We instruct him how to play. You should instruct him what do you want to be done:
i.e.
- Mine and road that hill with those 2 workers (5 turns)
- Then irrigate and road plain tile (4 turns)
- Start mining another hill...

Also include building queues..

ok?

Post instructions for your city here. I will then post it in turnchat instruction thread and president will folow them in turnchat. That way your city will be maintained as you think it is the best.
If there is any need we can discuss the instruction in this thread. You can also post suggestions for all other cities in the province (worker suggestions, building qeues, borrowing/lending other cities tiles etc.).

In the turnchat thread?

In the turnchat thread?
he said post here, and please dont play the save again, for reference here is article k:
Article K. All irreversible game actions must progress during a
public turnchat, while reversible game actions(ie build
queues) that adhere to legal instruction can be prepared
offline.
plus only the dp can do it

With our golden age upon us, I propose the very serious idea of building a Great Wonder in one of our cities (gasp!). The wonder is open to discussion, but I personally recommend the Sistine Chapel based on the massive happiness bonus, plus being continent independent. The wonder choices are:
Sistine Chapel (great for curbing unhappiness in all cities)
Leo's Workshop (won't upgrade that many units so not that significant)
Bach's Cathedral (possibility but Chapel is better imho and a lot of research to do)
Smith's Trading Co (too much research but some financial benefit)
The other wonders are not really useful for us.
The best city based on shield production is Shorin-Ryu (proximity to the capital means low corruption). Also for consideration are En'gha and Odawara
I'll start a proper discussion thread later tonight, but wanted to get an initial feedback.

The proposal is worth considering... Obviously first choice for Wonder city in our province is Shorin-Ryu. Personally, I wouldn't allow other cities in this province to build wonders because it would be waste of time (except possible Forbidden Palace in Odawara).
The problem is the number of wonders we are going to build. I think public opinion is only 1 wonder at the moment and the best wonder city is undoubtely Fanatikku. Second choice is probably Zojoji because it has most improvements already built. We can get some advantage with Shorin-Ryu over Zojoji because it can produce 2-3 shields more but that is probably insufficient advantage.
I think it is better to concentrate on building improvements and army in Shorin-Ryu for now. But certainly in the future, by the end of Middle Age or beginning of Industrial Age Shorin-Ryu will be 1st or 2nd top producer in Japanatica, and that will be imo perfect time for building wonders in Shorin. I'm looking forward to Smith's wonder and Hoover's Dam in Shorin-Ryu..

Concerning the Wonders choice I agree with you. Anyway, wonders and cities which will be chosen to build them should be polled. We'll then considerall pros and cons and let the citizens to decide.

Odawara: Marketplace (7) >> Cathedral (5) >> Samurai (5)
**Give Odawara 1 En'Gha hill (laborer switch from desert to hill) -DON'T FORGET
Shorin-Ryu: Marketplace (1) >> Cathedral (4) >> Samurai (4) >> Samurai (4)
*switch desert and forest to 2 mined hills
En'Gha: Cathedral (2) >> Marketplace (7) >> Samurai (5)
*work at the hill workers are on (instead of the hill which is going to be given to Odawara)
Corrino: Marketplace (7) >> Cathedral (8)

Workers:

Mine Odawara hills!
Clear and irrigate 1 Corrino forest!

Please follow laborer and worker instructions precisely.
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Mayors, there is around 24 hours until TC so use that time to suggest any changes you think of.

I encourage the Governor to take advantage of our Golden Age of Prosperity and build improvements instead of Samurai. When all useful improvements, or if an improvement would be irrelevant to the city, are completed then continue with the productuion of Samurai.

Governor Invy,

I request That the build queue for Shorin-Ryu be changed to the following:
University
Samurai
Samurai
Bank

With the high level of commerce, this city is better suited to commercial and scientific growth instead of promoting military might. Since it is very unlikely that we'd declare war on the Iroquois while they are roaming our lands, the University would be more of a priority. I think it's important that we start on the bank sooner or later.
Other improvements needed to be scheduled later on:
Courthouse
Colosseum
Naturally with a very likely attack on the purple menace, granary not required.

Worker actions:
As the city has enough worked tiles for size 12 growth, not an issue.

Request accepted. I think we could even build Bank before Samurais.
I suggest: University >> Bank because we have enough Samurais and Swordsman for possible war.

Governor-san,

Your recommendations are whole-heartedly accepted, though might change to a wonder soon.
Current build order:
University
Bank
Samurai (as needed)

or

Sistine Chapel / Smith's Trading Thingamejig
I think if we build the wonder, we have to start asap so that there is less danger of being overtaken.

Odawara: Bank (4) >> University (9)
En'Gha: Granary (3) >> University (14) >> Bank (11)
Corrino: Cathedral (3) >> University (16)
Shorin-Ryu: University (8) >> Bank (6) or Wonder
TBD2(Duckburg): Library
- switch mine to grasland after the temple is built
*Roman cities: Temples >> Courthouses (workers in DP discretion)
Rome:

Workers

Odawara: Irrigate floods and build 1 mine
Engha: Irrigate floods and build 1 mine
Corrino: Clear 1 forest (Corrino can't grow)
TBD2(Duckburg): Build mines on 2 grasslands, clear the jungles

Laborers:

Rome, Ravenna and Hispalis laborers can either work or be used as specialists (at DP discretion).

Governor Invy,

I have here submitted my request for Gubernatorial Endorcement of new Provincial Borders.

I am proceeding with my plan specified in Post 11 in the Term 3 Provincial Congress. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2233598&postcount=11)

As Governor of Edo Province, I need your concent to:
A: Split the Province, as currently, most, if not all, of Triba's territory currently falls under Edo.
B: The Ceesion of Ulundi from Edo to the Zulu half of the Northern Territory.

I thank the Governor for his (or her, I'm still not sure...) consideration.

Governor of Edo Province supports this fine proposal!

I'll say it again here:

Do not extend the proposal beyond our current borders. The provinces layed out in those directions are short sighted and are, even now, far too large and badly organized. The only change needed is to seperate Rome. When and if we conquer anything else we can chop it up however.

Odawara: University (10) >> Samurai
Shorin-Ryu: Bank (6) >> Samurai (4) >> Granary
Duckburg: Library (16)
En'Gha: University (10) >> Bank
Corrino: University (9) >> Bank
Roman cities: Continue current production (Omi: workers)

Workers:
- Mine En'Gha hills
- Clear forests and jungles around Corrino and Duckburg

Governor Invy,
I had noticed that your build queues include both Universities and Banks. I've seen it noted throughout various strategy threads that building both is often a waste as most players either go 100% science or close to 0% science. I'm just thinking about the long term goals. In any case, we will probably want at least 5 banks within our country so that we can build Wall Street eventually, but I thought I would bring this to your attention, especially as we are beginning a war soon and may need the production for Military units.

Regards - MOTH

I personally like to go to max science and thus I'm giving advantage to Universities. Since we need five Banks and cities in Edo are large and very productive I think we should have some Banks there. Odawara already has the Bank, Corrino is large commerce produce so it should have Bank and I'll post instructions for En'Gha Bank but with option to switch Bank to Samurai if needed... Shorin also needs Bank but it is producing Smiths...
That would be 3 Banks in Edo + 2 Banks in Fanatikku and Zojoji...

Thanks for suggestion!

Shorin-Ryu: Smiths
Corrino: University >> Bank
Odawara: University >> Samurais
Duckburg: Library >> Barracks
En'Gha: University >> Bank
*DP may switch this Bank to Samurai's if necessary but FINISH the University
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Doomsvile: Courthouse >> Barracks >> Library
Other ex Roman cities: continue current production

Workers:

- clear jungles and forests around Corrino and Duckburg

To invy GOOD work on the province...i just wanted to say ive been extremely busy with a thing called the HSC a series of NEW SOUTH WALES sate school tests that decide if i get to go to uni it finishes in another 2 weeks however in the mean time i hand over in powers i have to Crimso my deputy mayor till my exams are over
regards ali
keep the good work going!

OK ali thx!

Queues:
Odawara: Colosseum (4) >> Granary (4) >> Musketman (or Forbidden Palace?)
En'Gha: Bank (4) >> Colosseum (10)
Corrino: Bank (4) >> Granary (5) >> Colosseum
Shorin-Ryu: Smiths (9) >> Bank (8)
Doomsville: Library (4) >> Marketplace (13)
Rome: Courthouse (8) >> Barracks (8)

Other Roman cities: continue current production
Ominata: Settler >> Barracks
Workers

Mine Odawara and En'Gha hills.

As of now, This poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=102910) shows a great sentiment towards colonizing the other continent, and a middling sentiment in intervening in the Sino-German War if at all possible.

Therefore, I would like the Governor to consider possible contributions to any overseas plans, as this would be the TC in which we would "build" an "Expeditionary force".

Term 3 summary (890AD) - MAIN GOALS:

1. Get 3 largest cities to 15 shield per turn
- Shorin-Ryu: 22/27 *Japanatica top production city together with Zojoji
- Odawara 18/25
- En'Gha 14/17 *just waiting for 1 more mine
- Corrino 13/16 *Corino has grown into great city and will be able to get
15 shields in 3 turns after it grows.

2. Get Corrino to 7-9 population
Corrino is at 8 population, grows in 3 turns. It is 2nd top commercial producer of Japanatica behind our capital for just 1 gold piece, tho Corrino does produce more raw commerce but also loses more due to corruption.

3. Solve unhapiness problems to allow cities to get 12 population
Markeplaces, Cathedrals, Universities have been built in all cities, Banks will be in all cities after next TC (Shorin-Ryu is building a Bank atm)
Population:
- Shorin-Ryu 11; Odawara 12; En'Gha 12; Corrino 8; Duckburg 3

4. Find mayors for all cities

Corrino: JackA
En'Gha: ali
Shorin-Ryu: Gregski
odawara: Epimethius
Duckburg: none yet

5. Poll the Province name
Poll has been finished Official province name is: Edo.
Poll results: 17 YES, 1 NO, 2 ABSTAIN.

6. Make space and infrastructure for newly established city
-All jungles are cleared and tiles worked. Barracks, Temple and Library
have been built. Ducburg is currently at 3 population.

Misc

- We have built a Wonder! Smith's Trading Company is in Shorin-Ryu. Odawara is destined to win the poll for building Forbidden Palace.

- The province got new city Duckburg in 520 AD. The idea for settling was
proposed by me but SirDonIII's site won the poll :).

- During Roman war all province cities were producing military units and
after victory infrastructure was built, thanks to Golden Age almost all
improvements were build.

- Conquered Roman cities were part of Edo province this term and they will belong new province next term.

- New provincial borders have passed the poll and Doomsville (ex Antium) is
set to join Edo province in Term 4.

I'll update this post until new governor is elected. I don't intend to candidate for any positions this Term due to lack of time. I am going to be active citizen as before and I'll probably spend more time in Office for statistics. Thanks to everyone who have helped me governing this beautiful province.

Good job, Governor Invy!

Well done Invy, you've done a great job! This province has a great future, hope you will be part of it.

Other stuff
Current recommendations for Shorin-Ryu:
Bank (8)
Colosseum (6)
Military units as directed
If Shorin-Ryu is to build a settler unit, a granary must be completed first.

Governor, Exciting news!

As per this Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103090), Odawara has been chosen in a Landslide to be the location of the Forbidden Palace!

Therefore, I request that you insert the FP in Odawara's queue post haste.

Thanks folks! Thx for nomination Gregski! :goodjob:
Congrats & good luck Epi!

Instructions for 980AD:

Odawara: Forbidden Palace
Shorin-Ryu: Bank >> Colosseum
En'Gha: Colloseum >> Musketman >> Samurai
**En'Gha is winning the poll for building Wall Street - DP can override my instructions if En'Gha is chosen to build Wall street.
Corrino: Colosseum >> Samurai
Duckburg: Marketplace
Doomsville: Marketplace >> Cathedral
Roma: Barracks >> Library >> Marketplace
Other Roman cities: continue current production

Workers

Work Roman territory, leave 2-3 workers in Edo and mine hills near Odawara and En'Gha.

Outgoing Governor, if Governor Meleet of Zarnia allows it, please switch Odawara to the results of this poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103460), should this poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103457) determine that Odawara would no longer be the site of the Forbidden Paalce. If the first poll is declared illegal, (i.e. is challenged), then, if the 2nd poll is against Odawara, please change to Palace as a Pre-Build.