Welcome, :)

This is a unit based on The Wheel of Time series written by Robert Jordan. Its ultimate destination is for the W.o.T. Mod that is still in the construction phase, but feel free to enjoy it until then. Hope you like it! :D

Thanks,
CamJH
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*AND please be kind, it is my first unit! ;)
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Credits: (so many are due)
To Kinboat first of all for creating the model for my unit, allowing me to borrow some of his effects, and for answering a million of my questions. To Ripptide for helping me to understand 3DS Max with his wonderful tutorials. To Dease for the work and time he put in helping me out with the palette. And to Steph, Cyber Dreyk, and Moenir for their incredible programs.

Download Asha'man (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59568/Ashaman1.zip)
(repost with Lightning problem fixed)

Preview of Attack A:

Preview of Attack B:

Preview of Attack C

And the Death animation:
- to see the rest you'll have to download the unit. ;)

Very very good first unit... :wow: Hopefully you make dozens more!

Pretty damn cool! Here's to many more great units from you, good sir! :beer:

I look forward tot he WoT mod... your map is beautiful... Any interest in doing a unit for "The Others" from George Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series? Wouldn't want to take you away from progress for the WoT mod, but I figured if you like WoT, you might like SoIF too... I'm redoing an old map I did for it from scratch and I think all I'd need is a unit for the Others and the rest of the scenario could basically involve importing the medieval europe conquest.

I've got other projects right now, so no rush at all, but I'd like to set this up at some point if you're interested. :) It can definitely wait until the WoT mod is finished. If you're not familiar with SoIF, that's cool too.

Not very familiar with SoIF myself, but it sounds interesting.

@CamJH: Very nice unit, especially for a first. Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

Huzzah for magic guys!

That turned out quite nicely :D

(Are you looking for a Trolloc unit? Don't some of them have goat heads? It's been ages since I read any of the series... I might make up a trolloc model)

Anyone care to give a quick explanation as to who/what this guy is/does in the Wheel of Time universe? (never read the books)

I came across a small problem with the lightning attack, that only occured when attacking directly from the west, which caused a visual error. I had play-tested it earlier, but I guess that one frame had alluded me. :) Oh well. I have replaced the download in the first post with this issue corrected. Sorry for the hassle.

Thanks, :D
CamJH

@ Owain
Sounds cool, but I probably won't be able to lend out my services much until I get some more units created for the WoT Mod. Then we'll talk. ;) I'm not familiar with SoIF, so you'll have to aquaint me. I'm glad you liked the map as well, that was a lot of tedious work... so is unit making to an extent, but I think this is more fun. :)

@ Kinboat
Are you serioius?! Because don't toy with my emotions like that if your not. :) I would absolutely LOVE a Trolloc unit. They have all kinds of different heads, as I'm sure you can recall. Wolf heads, Ram's heads, Eagle's heads... just about any fearful animal's head. :)

@ everyone else so far :)
Thanks for all the compliments. It means a lot, especially since this is my first attempt. :)

Ashaman are kind of male magic users who have been trained to use magic for fighting and battle almost exclusively. In some role playing games (Rolemaster) you have Warrior Mages which is kinda the same thing.

At the same time, in the WoT series, the male side of the magic is tainted with evil so that eventually every Ashaman goes mad. That's why male magic users are universally feared and hunted down by female magic users.

BTW: Great unit, CamJH! Hope to see many more!

Ashaman are kind of male magic users who have been trained to use magic for fighting and battle almost exclusively. In some role playing games (Rolemaster) you have Warrior Mages which is kinda the same thing.

At the same time, in the WoT series, the male side of the magic is tainted with evil so that eventually every Ashaman goes mad. That's why male magic users are universally feared and hunted down by female magic users.

I noticed he is dressed in a 18th-19th century style. Does wheel of time cover the entire historical timeline, or stay mostly in this era?

@ Neomega
Here's an exerpt from a glossary. It is a tad bit lengthy, but at least it's detailed. :)

Asha’man (Ah-shah-mahn):
(1) In the Old Tongue, “Guardian” or “Defender,” with a strong implication that this is a defender of truth and justice. (2) The name taken by followers of the Dragon Reborn, men who have come to what is now being called the Black Tower in order to learn how to channel. Some have dreamed of channeling despite all the dire risks, while others remain only because passing the test for the ability to learn to control it before it kills them. They train not only in using the One Power, but in the use of sword and in fighting with hands and feet. Their training concentrates on ways in which the One Power can be used as a weapon, and in another departure from the usages of the White Tower, once they learn to seize saidin, the male half of the Power, they are required to perform all chores and labors with the Power. The Asha’man, who wear distinctive black coats, are divided according to level of knowledge they have achieved, the lowest being a Soldier. The next level is Dedicated, marked by a pin in the shape of a silver sword worn on the coat collar. The highest level is called simply an Asha’man, marked by a red-and-gold enameled pin in the shape of a Dragon worn on the coat collar opposite the silver sword. Unlike Aes Sedai, who go to great lengths to make sure that those they train are not allowed to mover dangerously fast, the Asha’man are pushed hard from the beginning, most especially in learning to use the Power as a weapon. As a result, where the death or stilling of a novice of the White Tower during her training would be something spoken of with horror for years, at the Black Tower it is expected that a certain number of Asha’man Soldiers will die or be burned out attempting to learn. The existence of the Asha’man, and their connection wit the Dragon Reborn, has caused a reevaluation among some Aes Sedai of the immediate necessity for gentling, but many have not changed their view at all.

CamJH, cool!

Kinboat, a ram's head trolloc would also fit perfectly as a WH Beastman, thus killing two Evil Mutated Bad Guys with one stone. :D

That was my initial thought :D

And I knew there were different types... I just couldn't recall what kinds (blasted memory... Too many books squeezing out the important stuff... like my phone number :D ) The eagle headed one might look interesting too.

There are goat, bear, wolf, eagle, ram, etc etc etc ad nauseum Trollocs. Pretty much any wild animal.

Excellent unit (and range of attack animations). Keep up the good work. I'm a big fan of the WoT series. I look forward to the mod.

(Let's hope that Robert Jordan lives long enough to complete the series).....

Misfit

I noticed he is dressed in a 18th-19th century style. Does wheel of time cover the entire historical timeline, or stay mostly in this era?Judging by the cover art of the series, I'd say the rough RL historical equivalent would be 16th-17th century Europe, perhaps even a bit later -- but in the books gunpowder is only just beginning to be used for anything other than fireworks. There seem to be cage-style lobster helmets (Cromwellilan feel), rapier-type swords and a fair bit of poofy sleeves and lace. Then again, the Aiel are half-naked savages with spears who can kick everybody else's ass, so that doesn't really fit in to RL history. Plus, I get the impression that some civs from the "borderlands" use good old-fashioned broadswords. I don't get the impression that there's much full plate, but rather a lot of "post-plate," sort of what you'd expect once firearms got used more often. I think it's a bit of a mish mash, personally.

I'm sure someone in the WoT thread could give a better answer than what I've given.

Nice unit CamJH, and welcome to the unit making club. Expect to not have any life outside of Civ III for the next few years :p

I must say that this guy would be perfect for one of the Estar UU's in my FF mod: the SeeD Commandos. (although I might make a "Garden" resource that appears when the Para-Magic tech is researched that allows anyone with access to the Garden to train SeeDs). Ironically enough, in Final Fantasy VIII, it's the female side of magic that's tainted, and the SeeDs were created to prevent any more Sorceresses from trying to take over/destroy the world. Actually it's a bit more complicated than that. Basically, Sorceresses are the only ones who can use true magic, while SeeDs and the various combat soldiers of the different nations use what's called Para-Magic. Para-Magic can only be used after the person bonds with a supernatural creature called a Guardian Force, and the magic itself must be drawn from enemies and monsters before it can be used.

Anyways, I'd also like to see som "Others" from the Snow and Ice series (my friend has that book, and it was rather interesting). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the series where winter comes only once every 20 years or so, but lasts about a year or so, and there's also this great wall at the line of permanent winter where one of the nations stand guard to keep the "Others" (these ghost-type creatures that would be classified as "outsiders" in D&D) from invading, especially during the winters, when the Others move abroad. I know this description is kinda vague, but it's been about 2 years since I read anything of the series.

Judging by the cover art of the series, I'd say the rough RL historical equivalent would be 16th-17th century Europe, perhaps even a bit later -- but in the books gunpowder is only just beginning to be used for anything other than fireworks. There seem to be cage-style lobster helmets (Cromwellilan feel), rapier-type swords and a fair bit of poofy sleeves and lace. Then again, the Aiel are half-naked savages with spears who can kick everybody else's ass, so that doesn't really fit in to RL history. Plus, I get the impression that some civs from the "borderlands" use good old-fashioned broadswords. I don't get the impression that there's much full plate, but rather a lot of "post-plate," sort of what you'd expect once firearms got used more often. I think it's a bit of a mish mash, personally.

I'm sure someone in the WoT thread could give a better answer than what I've given.
You pretty much got it right. There's a guy trying to invent the horseless carriage, yet Mat is on the verge of discovering how to use fireworks as weopans. Most warlike nations like the Aiel and Borderlanders still resort to good old fashioned weapons, while the Seanchan learned to capture female mages and collar them to use as weapons. There seems to be a little bit of everything in the books. Good fantasy.

Great first unit! :thumbsup:
And it's fantasy and not historical aswell. :D

You pretty much got it right. There's a guy trying to invent the horseless carriage, yet Mat is on the verge of discovering how to use fireworks as weopans. Most warlike nations like the Aiel and Borderlanders still resort to good old fashioned weapons, while the Seanchan learned to capture female mages and collar them to use as weapons. There seems to be a little bit of everything in the books. Good fantasy.I hadn't heard of the guy trying to invent the horseless carriage. Was it in the newest book, that Prequel to the Eye of the World? I haven't read that one yet, because I haven't run into a free copy (I swear I'll never spend any money on this series, it ain't worth it!)

I remember in the vision of the origin of the Aiel and their links to the Tinkers, there were flying chariots and other whacky things like that. You might say that before the Breaking of the World, things were rather technologically advanced.

Edit: What are you guys going to do for Seanchan units? Maybe there's enough beasty & saurian influences there to be of interest to a certain unit maker (cough cough) who has been known to make similar type units, and who has recently expressed intreset in a Trollock unit (cough cough). ;)

Maybe you should see a doctor about that cough...

or a certain librarian :mischief:
maybe he could help you find something in that section

Poor Kinboat; good talent never goes unpunished!

Excelllent job on the unit Cam :goodjob:

This would be great unit even if it wasn't your first. Welldone CamJH :thumbsup:

An excellent unit cam :goodjob:, especially the fire effects :thumbsup:

I hope to see many more :whipped: :mischief:

I like it, I like it lots and lots!

Great unit. I'm not a big WoT fan, but I would love to see the Mod, and I have many, many possible uses for something that looks this good. And had you not mentioned it, I would never have known it was this was your first.

I hadn't heard of the guy trying to invent the horseless carriage. Was it in the newest book, that Prequel to the Eye of the World? I haven't read that one yet, because I haven't run into a free copy (I swear I'll never spend any money on this series, it ain't worth it!)

I haven't read the prequel either, because I'm more interested in Jordan just finishing the series, Crossroads at Twilight was a waste, but Winterheart was pretty cool. The guy trying to invent the horseless carriage is in Cairhien and I think he is introduced to Rand around the 6th or 7th book. Maybe, it's been a while since I read this series.

@Kinboat: I love your Panda Buddha avatar.

Hmm... I'm just thinking in terms of Poser here... if Kinboat is going to make multiple kinds of these monstrosities, maybe the best thing to do is to make a body and then have the heads attachable? Like legos... :D

That doesn't sound twisted at all... :mischief:
Interesting idea though. I would think that a mask, working something like a helmet that you could attach to the head of his paperdoll figure would work too. But when it comes down to it, I'll let Kinboat do whatever he wants and be happy with the results. :)

I haven't read the prequel either, because I'm more interested in Jordan just finishing the series, Crossroads at Twilight was a waste, but Winterheart was pretty cool. The guy trying to invent the horseless carriage is in Cairhien and I think he is introduced to Rand around the 6th or 7th book. Maybe, it's been a while since I read this series.Last I heard, Jordan didn't even care about finishing the series. Can you tell? Anyway, I thought that inventor guy in Cairhien got killed off!

Well, he's almost done with the next one; "Knife of Dreams" I believe is the name he's given it. Then he promised to wrap up the series in the following book (minus of course the other two prequels :rolleyes: ), and since he claims to have known the ending since he wrote the first book I'm hoping the completion isn't that far off.

As far as the inventor being killed off, we just had the same debate over at the Mod thread and someone (I'm too lazy to go check :) ) pointed out that it wasn't him that was killed but the philosopher.

Well, he's almost done with the next one; "Knife of Dreams" I believe is the name he's given it. Then he promised to wrap up the series in the following book (minus of course the other two prequels :rolleyes: ), and since he claims to have known the ending since he wrote the first book I'm hoping the completion isn't that far off.
I thought he was getting bored of his own work, but if he has that much planned out then maybe not. I'm not reading his prequels till he finishes the series though. That would just confuse me.

Wow, only two more books to go (plus two more prequels?)? Wow! I thought it would take another five for sure before Tarmon Gaidon (sp?).

I don't think I ever distinguished the philosopher guy from the horseless carriage guy (probably because I don't remember any reference to a horseless carriage, oh well!).

Thanks for the info, BTW. Good luck with the mod, and even better luck with more great units! :crazyeye:

Well the guy didn't call it that and nobody knew what to call it. It was just some machine that moved on it's own, but Rand couldn't think of a purpose yet, because it couldn't haul anything yet. Rand thought he was strange, but the philosopher guy he liked. The reason he was killed.

I see. My memory is bad anyway, I read almost the entire series in the space of about 3 months. Details start to blur at that rate. ;)

I took a little longer than you because book 1 took me 3 months, then book 2 about 1 month. After that a book a week so I get lost on what happened in which book after book 2.

CamJH, not to rain on your parade of compliments, but I went to add the unit to my mod today and found something distinctly lacking.

To whit, the Units_32 icon and the Civilopedia Icons. Could you post those, pretty please (the SeeD units look kinda wierd with the Swiss Merc icons).

hmm... Wonder where they went. :hmm:

I can't find them in my folder either. I must have accidentally deleted them when I repacked the zip with the modified lightning attack. I'll go ahead and redo them, and post them up in the first post... unless someone who downloaded the unit earlier that has these would be kind enough to post them here. :)
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EDIT: I have now reposted the Civilopedia Icons, and Units_32.pcx in the first post.
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Great Unit, but how much kb are the files to download?

Attack A reminds me of a Combat Engineer from the WWII unit pack :lol:

Nice work! :goodjob:

Thanks guys. :)
The unit itself is 865 kb because I included sounds, and the pedia icons and so forth are about 6 kb.

Which in total is 872 kb, which is less than 1 mb, right?

Correct, give or take a kb. :)

Thanks. :goodjob:

Sorry for bumping the thread, but your DL link is broken.

:hmm:
I tried dl'ing the unit in the downloads section, and that link wasn't working either. :(

If someone has this unit in a folder, mod/scenario, anything, could you please post it here. I will then correct the first post. Thanks in advance.

And thanks for bringing this to my attention Bluemofia. My apologies for the hassle, not sure what happened.

:hmm:
I tried dl'ing the unit in the downloads section, and that link wasn't working either. :(

If someone has this unit in a folder, mod/scenario, anything, could you please post it here. I will then correct the first post. Thanks in advance.

And thanks for bringing this to my attention Bluemofia. My apologies for the hassle, not sure what happened.

It's just the CFC purges. Files that were older than X with less than Y DLs are purged.

But thats just wrong.. some oldies but goldies can be lost like that..

IIRC Hikaro is using it for the FF mod, so he should have it.

I found it on an old backup and uploaded it here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/8801/Asha__man1.zip

I've edited the first post. The download link should now work fine.
Thank you to Wolfhart and NavyDawg for sending me links. :thanx:

What's eerily funny about this happening now, is that I had been thinking about re-doing this unit anyways. Adding a paradrop animation where he either fades into/from magenta (disappearing/reappearing) or stepping behind a magenta screen (traveling). But that's after I finish up some other projects I'm currently working on.

Wait - redoing the whole unit or just adding the paradrop? I vote fading for that, btw :)

Thanks for resurrecting this, I'd never seen it. The attacks and death remind me of some of the saddhu (mystics) characters in Ashok Banker's Ramayana series of novels, in different costume. I've dl'd it, for inspiration if nothing else.

Are You Making a Wheel Of time Mod, I really want it if you are, Please Hurry!!!!!

Judging by the cover art of the series, I'd say the rough RL historical equivalent would be 16th-17th century Europe, perhaps even a bit later -- but in the books gunpowder is only just beginning to be used for anything other than fireworks. There seem to be cage-style lobster helmets (Cromwellilan feel), rapier-type swords and a fair bit of poofy sleeves and lace. Then again, the Aiel are half-naked savages with spears who can kick everybody else's ass, so that doesn't really fit in to RL history. Plus, I get the impression that some civs from the "borderlands" use good old-fashioned broadswords. I don't get the impression that there's much full plate, but rather a lot of "post-plate," sort of what you'd expect once firearms got used more often. I think it's a bit of a mish mash, personally.

I'm sure someone in the WoT thread could give a better answer than what I've given.

The Reason it seemeds mashed is because the lack of stable states to impliment standardized weapons, Armor, Tactics, and Command Structure With the Exception of The Tower Gaurd And The Sheanchan, and possibly the queen's gaurd in andor. Never saw any Rapiers and it seems unlikely that there would be any since the raiper was a responce to heavy plate armor, which there is a lack of in The wheel of time do to the lack of funds. Sabre style swords seem to be the most popular, and the Broad/Longsword in second being used by The Tower Gaurd, Children of The Light, Borderlands, And Warders using them. The Slightly curved Longn sword are common in the borderlands, and The Cutlass and Simitar are Popular with The Sheanchan. Also the the reason for pikes being popular is easy, when you have a peasent levy what else do you do with them, They have no skill with swords or bows or axes, so you teach them drill and disipline and show them how to hold a pike.

Ashaman are kind of male magic users who have been trained to use magic for fighting and battle almost exclusively. In some role playing games (Rolemaster) you have Warrior Mages which is kinda the same thing.

At the same time, in the WoT series, the male side of the magic is tainted with evil so that eventually every Ashaman goes mad. That's why male magic users are universally feared and hunted down by female magic users.

BTW: Great unit, CamJH! Hope to see many more!

The books make it Clear that The Power is not Magic, But is instead a Manifestation of The Creators Power.

dude ... you do realize the guy you're replying to posted almost 3 years ago?

dude ... you do realize the guy you're replying to posted almost 3 years ago?

No Actually I Didnt I should Have looked at the date, Damn If This Mod is not Done by Know It will probably never be done.:cry: :mad: :(

hmm... gr8!

*sigh*

OK, here we go again..

Hi Srinath49, welcome to CFC. Please try not to bump old threads if your post doesn`t contain some valid information regarding the topic. Everyone knows this unit is great, its been said so over 4 years ago.. ;)

You can see the time of the last post above the name of the last person to have posted in the thread. And now I notice someone bumped this very thread a year ago..

Read the thread, not just the first post..

So...in the very beginning of having to add all 2134 units I had downloaded back (or at least those which saw use in scenarios), and the link for this one goes nowhere. If anyone could re-upload it to the downloads database, I'd be greatly appreciative.

I know about the whole not bumbing threads thing, but I thought since this still seems to be one of the units that is missing, and I found that I had it. So hopefully this upload works.:confused: