I was very disappointed when I bought Thrones and patriots,
Besides the new Civs and the senate building it was horrible.
Conquer the world was THE WORST THING EVER while miltiplayer was messed and everthing

I can go on and on but anybody else agree? I'd much rather have the Regular RoN

Sorry, but T&P is definitely better, the new civs are awsome, and the scenarios are great (although they have a rather low replay value, IMHO). The only problem I find is that the government system could've been designed a bit better, so you could go backwards (like democracy to despotism). Besides that, I haven't yet tried mp, so I can't judge that.

I feel like a dog on a choker chain between two in heat vixens.
So what is the final thought on Thrones and Patriots?

I was very disappointed when I bought Thrones and patriots,
Besides the new Civs and the senate building it was horrible.
Conquer the world was THE WORST THING EVER while miltiplayer was messed and everthing

I can go on and on but anybody else agree? I'd much rather have the Regular RoN

The conquer the world campaigns were great. I dont know how one would see it as a step backards from RoN...

Whats wrong with multpilayer in expack?

I like the expansion, but a few sides could use some more UU's.

I just snagged RoN gold, so I can't tell ya.

Personally, I think it's great! I never played the originial much, but the campaigns of the addon are really quite fun, especially the Alexander one.
@Gnarfflinger: Damnit, you have the same Avatar as I do!!!!!!

If you bought the Gold version, you can still play the original by double-clicking on the Rise.exe file in your RoN folder.

Civ III owns Rise Of Nations. By far.

I love RoN: I love C3C, but they're different experiences.