sorry you guys, I lost track of this game, and then I went out of town.

I've now played and sent.

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gps

king stuart

Aaah... a nice little civ break again!

On to Punkbass

Back at it. Over to Snipelfritz.

to King Stu

spike you be up

king stuart

Got it. Played it. Send it...

Forward, not backward.

Sent to Snipelfritz.

I'm heading away for the weekend, so tomorrow night will be my last chance to play till Sunday. Sorry all.

Blasted Medeans! :D

sent to king stu

Over to punkbass

Back in action

Back at it and over to Snipelfritz.

to king stu

to spike

king stuart

Moving right along...

And on we go.

sent.

*scratches nose*

played

king stuart

Looks like I'll be away for about a week or so as of tomorrow AM. Rats. :( Maybe I can get back for a couple of turns at some point next week but I can't count on it. Sorry about the delays here, hopefully I'll be back to normal after this. Well... as normal as I can possibly be anyway.

Just letting you all know I'll be back at it again Wednesday. Sorry again for the delays here, had to stay on the road even longer than I thought. But this is the last trip I'm taking for a while, I promise!

No problems there Loch. Thanks for the updates. :D

Game on!... finally. Sent to Snipelfritz.

Pesky barbs. The time off let me forget about them for a bit. Worthless Myceneans aren't helping at all.

On to punkbass.

Now I've got pesky barbs too. You didn't actually send them my way, did you? I was just kidding!

On to Snipelfritz.

After a quick turn 90 years back in time, the Hittites are back on track and happy to report the secret time capsule has been shipped to the Egyptians.

Heeray Horah ! War has been declared on Hittites

A magnificient WAR to avenge the intrusion of Hittite settlers has begun.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~warningu2/Files/beantown_2.jpg

The battle focuses on Malatya. Bowman capture a Hittite worker and sent him to Nippur to clean the latrines.

Meanwhile near the Phoenician city of Acco a Hittite warrior squatting on a hill taking a ****e was surprised mid wipe of his hairy ass .

Loss report: 1 worker, 1 warrior

Hmm... looks like quite a battle shaping up. Anybody taking bets on this?

GPS.

Having not seen first hand the supposed Babylonian incursion except through red propoganda, the Hittite State Department will not issue an official response at this time.

But diplomacy aside, King Spike-it has to wonder what hashish the babs have been smoking? If settler intrusion is settling a city in open land with no nearby cities, while the Babs can just plant Nippur a hill away from Malatya, then intrude we did. :crazyeye: But if that is the case, I fear the Babs may determine that Egyptian and Myceneans have intruded as well, because, well, darn, thems there are Babylonian lands! Never mind the Babs close by neighbors who have to be wondering if a stack of these pesky warrior folk are going to turn their way next. :rolleyes:

Regardless, if the red papers hold any amount of truth to them, we fear the town of Malatya may be a lost cause. For now.

Ooooo, this looks like a good show. Grabs popcorn.

GPS

Well, reports from the Eastern border look grim. A bunch of fairy bowmen dressed in red have decided to attack a Hittite town or two and do the happy Babylonian jig. In response the Hittites complete the Mausoleum of Mausollos in Hattusas. And there was much rejoicing. And due to similar "wonder"ful accomplishments by the Egyptians in the same year, Kanesh decides to downsize their garden project into a courthouse. Joy. :rolleyes:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Beantown_1860BC_MoM.jpg

On the battlefront a mostly wimpy response to start...
Archer in desert attacks bowman on Babylonian incense and dies. Reports are he forgot to pack his powerbars and water.
A three man chariot, breaking out of Dodge, kills a bowman on the north road . The spear in Malatya retreats and the Hittite town of Malatya, so distraught by the ugly head dresses worn by the Babs and the abandonment of their own troops decide to up and leave, abandoning a pile of rubble they'll use to rebuild in a 100 years or so.

Hittite losses:
1 lost archer

Babylonian losses:
1 scum sucking bowman

So like, there I was like one turn away from getting the Hanging Gardens but the Egyptians like totally stole it away from me, but I said that's cool, no problemo, I've got my consolation Mausoleum all ready to go which I didn't really want 'cause it's like all filled with dead people and stuff, but I said chill dude, Mausoleums give you happiness which doesn't make sense 'cause they're like so dark and gloomy but I'll take it anyway, then I open up the game and see that the Hittites like stole that one away too so I have to get like this marketplace and lose like a thousand shields which is like a total bummer.

Sigh... story of my life.

That sucks.

GPS

i feel your pain, my brother...
gps

king stuart

The war news is... there is no news. Well, unless the nice little stack of bowmen approaching the villa of Arpad is news... Think they are approaching town to try out the fine dining choices? :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, our lazy construction crews, unable to complete the garden properly are being fitted with pointy sticks. They think they are attending a bar-b-q.

On to Pharoah PB

Well... gardening is tough to do well. We eventually gave up and made a hanging garden out of nylon leaves and bendy straws but our people didn't buy it. They're very tough to please. Still, we didn't make kebabs out of our gardeners. That's just not nice!

GPS

A couple bowmen scoundrels were found sniffing in our stables. A couple horsies got angry, and now the 2 bowmen (including one so-called "elite"-ist) are seeking refuge in the afterlife. Mr. Ed scoffed at his slightly dinged health bar, "Tis just a scratch!"

Report:
No Hittite losses
2 less Babylonian bowmen

Meanwhile, the country folk in Adana are looking warily out at the mass of Babylonian red coming up the far side of the river. They can only hope reinforcements will arrive in time.

Onto to sailing punkbass, happily riding the open seas...

Mmm... gripping stories there in the Hittite Herald. I'm sensing a little anti-Babylonian media bias there though. Whatever happened to freedom of the press? I'll go to the internet to get the real scoop!

GPS

http://home.cogeco.ca/~warningu2/Files/zama2_abc.jpg

Our bowman approach the city of Adana. We smell fear.

The bowmen smell fear? Maybe they should have used deoderant. Oh wait, that may be Bob, the fearless worker (and former garden builder), smartly armed with spade in hand, standing in some cow poo-poo.

played and sent

In a strange bit of MP diplomacy, both the Babs and Hittites were greated with peace proposals from the trade advisor. Fortunately for both sides, all was in error and the trade advisor has been shot. The Hittites and Babs shall continue performing the border chicken dance for all rooting us on.

In other news, Bob the worker has promised King Spike-it that no one will get by his mighty spade. He even made sure Spike-it could not move him into Adana for safe harbor. We all wish the best for mighty Bob. Should some one tell him that rock beats scissor?

On to Punkbass 2 triple zero

The wise Egyptian prophets foresee the Middle East dissolving into chaos and, being lovers of great art, have taken it upon themselves to ensure no massive, beautiful sculptures should be destroyed in the battle.

Egypt:
1 WC killed NE of Tyre.

Phoenicia:
1 Tyrian Guard killed in Tyre.
1 Warrior killed in Tyre.
1 Curragh sunk in Tyre.
Tyre captured.
2 Workers captured Sw of Tyre.

I've been waiting 4 days for a save file. I see the world will be a different place upon commencement of play. :hammer:

Advancing troops on Adana cross the Tigres and capture a worker (Bob) tending to a cow. He is slaughtered and fed to our dogs. What is left is rendered as fat for our cooking fires.

Bowmen all along the front are now on the advance. The Hittites are brave warriors. A spearman backed by a horsemen defended the hill by Adana against a lone bowman who martyred himself. Another bowman has come out into the open from Phoenicia to harass the Hittite rear guard. Soon our forces will have massed in sufficient quantities to repel the evil doers ! :mad:

Panic siezes Hatti for a few moments as the Hittites learn of the need to be repelled by the Babylonians for so called evil-doing. Men and women scrambled through the streets trying to avoid being involved in any advance that needed to be repelled. Thankfully government officials restored order after explaining that there is no where to pull back from, that in fact all citizens were already in Hatti lands and their only recourses are to either 1) stand up and defend against the obviously confused Babylonian forces or 2) jump into the seas and try to swim to Egypt. Considering King Spike-it failed to build swimming schools in any of the Hatti cities, the citizens stopped running about, shrugged their shoulders and took up arms to defend the land that is rightfully theirs. The following day, subscriptions to the Babylonian Babble in Hatti plummetted to their all time low due to concerns about biased and sensational reporting.

Chaos in the middle east? Embrace the chaos I say!

GPS

Wahg. Gps.

all quiet in my little corner of the world

king stu

As the Babylonian forces set the stage for the siege of Adana, a few minor skirmishes have reduced their offensive by a few.

War Log:
Horse from Kummanni takes out lost bowman coming through Phoenicia. We sure hope the Phoenicians aren't harboring these infidels. Babys - -1 bow Hittites - 0
Horse from Adana takes out Babylonian spear. Babys - -1 bow, -1 spear, Hittites - 0
3 man chariot takes on bow and retreats. 3 man chariot takes on bow and retreats. Horse takes on bow and retreats. Stupid rng. :mad:
Horse takes on bow south of Adana and clears him. Babys - -2 bow, -1 spear, Hittites - 0 losses.
Horse takes out another bow sitting in our cow pasture. Babys - 3 bow, -1 spear, Hittites 0

Results - Babys lose 3 bowmen, 1 spear. Hittite losses: zippo

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Beantown_1740BC_Babylons.jpg

In other news, the Medeans have sent a rather large diplomatic entourage to visit the northern Hittite outpost of Tarsos. While visitors are always welcome, I should warn the Medeans the food in Tarsos can not be described as fine cuisine.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Beantown_1740BC_Medeans.jpg

Hey all. Everyone busy or what? We've knocked off two turns in the past two weeks and I haven't seen any sign of movement since I posted a week ago. I'd hate for this to die out just as its getting a little interesting.

Every time this happens I think **** did I forget to send the turn.

The last turn I played was on April 19th 1710 BC and I sent it onto Medes (Lochnor) that evening.

I haven't seen it since.

I do hope this game doesn't die after all this time and now its getting exciting.

I hate to break it to you gfuys, but, IIMN, the game is over ;)

IIMN ?

Lochnor didn't receive the game.... I have resent

It's far from over ;)

Sorry, IINM, "If I'm Not Mistaken".

Game over? If its over, why no updates from the last set of turns. Not even any battle logs from PB or Warning? Sounds like a quiet turn so far... even so, I can't wait to see what the quiet Egyptian has up his sleaves next.

Over??? This game isn't over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!!!

Ok, I have no idea what happened but the file vanished somewhere between WarningU2 and me. Lord knows I probably screwed it up somehow so my apologies to all. But file sent to Snipelfritz and we're back in business.

...the Germans didn't bomb Peral Harbour...

They didn't? Oh man. Seven years of college and I don't even know that. Too many parties with Bluto and the boys I guess. :)

beans is back cowderheads all over this land rejoice....

gps

king stuart

The Hittites managed to survive another turn. The town of Tarsos is happy at all the increased commerce the Medeans are giving them. They hope to feed the Medeans well as they move on to attack the Myceneans. Which is what they are doing, right? ;)

Observers in Adana could have sworn the last time they looked there were a lot more Babylonian bowmen knocking on the door. Maybe they ran off scared? Anyhow, a horseman and a 3 man chariot quickly dispatched of an elite and vet bowman wandering nearby.

Hittite losses: 0 Babylonians: 2

Lastly, the wisemen of Fenway have noted a disturbance in the force. It seems Cleo's minions, in addition to their wonder grabbing in Phonecia, are building a lighthouse. Strike that. A Great Lighthouse... Hmmm. Africa sure seems like a mighty safe place to play this board from. :)

On to PB.

As promised by the great Egyptian Pharoah, punkbass (the Magnificent, BTW :D), the game is now over. It still let me save, I'm not sure why, perhaps it will inform the next player I have in fact won? Or maybe it let's you keep going? Well, we'll see. In any case, just to quell the doubters, unfaithful and skeptics alike, a picture of the momentous plaque placed in the heavens:

well congrats to you. now i know what your post a few days ago meant.

any post game wrap up talk?

king stuart

if any of you would like to start another, any scen, post it here. i have an opening

king stuart

Well ... Congratulations ! Well Done ! I didn't realize that you were that close :cry: :eek: :goodjob:

This is the first PBEM game I have seen come to a proper conclusion.

How many wonders did you have ?

Yeah, that on of the main "problems" with this scenario, the last wonder is before the last age. I don't have much to say for post-game comments, as I never know what to say in any sort of presentation, but if anyone has any questions I'm happy to oblige.

As to your edit, I had four wonders. SoZ, Hanging Gardens, Colossus (stolen) and the Great Lighthouse.

BTW, I've only seen one other game come to a real end, and that was the WWII Japan PBEM I was in where we (the allies) got trounced in about 10 turns :eek: I do think "myles", with ks, will likely come to a genuine conclusion as well.

Well thats weird because the victory conditions say 7 wonders which it lists that you have built but I didn't get a pop up saying you had won or I had lost - it allowed me to play my turn and save it. I sent it on ... perhaps it needs to go all away around ?

Hmmm... Ok, I guess it's over. Darn, don't I just hate those sudden endings!

Congrats to the mighty Egyptians! But couldn't you have waited just one more turn so I could launch my attack on the Hittites!?! I launched an unofficial attack and took down Tarsos but that's not very satisfying. I didn't get a victory notice either so I just sent the game along anyway.

Well thats weird because the victory conditions say 7 wonders which it lists that you have built but I didn't get a pop up saying you had won or I had lost - it allowed me to play my turn and save it. I sent it on ... perhaps it needs to go all away around ?

Oh, have you not played with a Wonder Victory before? Now that you mention it, the Victory Screen might be misleading. You don't need all seen wonders to win. When all seven wonders are built (by anyone, anywhere), the game ends and whoever has the most victory points wins, IIRC (maybe whoever has the most wonders instead?)

As for allowing you to play, I don't know. It gave me the normal option of continue playing or finishing. I chose to finish, and then it still asked me to save.

Congrats PB. I have to admit I've never played with a wonder victory either so that was a bit unexpected. I figured you had a good lead on me to the Great Lighthouse though. I couldn't complete it for another 7 turns (Forbidden palace building at the moment) and I couldn't look at your city. Nice job. Here I was last night trying to figure out if I can take some Phoenicians cities while they were in anarchy to grab some VPs to try and make up for the wonder you were building all while holding off Warnings bowman trickle and fending off Loch's more formidable stack coming into my heartland... Somehow I think I was doomed, but at least my newly formed companinion infantry would have had some fun.

I should have hooked up my ivory and built the Status of Zeus sooner! Drat. You took forever building that thing.

Hmmm... Ok, I guess it's over. Darn, don't I just hate those sudden endings!

Congrats to the mighty Egyptians! But couldn't you have waited just one more turn so I could launch my attack on the Hittites!?! I launched an unofficial attack and took down Tarsos but that's not very satisfying. I didn't get a victory notice either so I just sent the game along anyway.


Geesh. To add insult to injury you still attack Tarsos! Where was the official attack going to come from. I hope at least my three brave spearmen took out a horsie or two.

And to just continue my string of posts....

I'd be interested in another game King Stu... Its crazy playing these scenarios when I haven't played them before. But this was a lot of fun.

"I should have hooked up my ivory and built the Status of Zeus sooner! Drat. You took forever building that thing."

Tell me about it. I think I must have accidentally switched it to something else briefly and left the screen once, because I recall opening up the save once after building it for a while and feeling like I had way less shields than I should, plus I went through anarchy after that. Must have been at least 25 turns altogether.

To add insult to injury you still attack Tarsos!

I didn't get to attack anyone in this game. Let me have my fun!

And yes your spearmen did put up a spirited fight, taking out one horsie and forcing a couple of retreats. But it was an act of desperation to go on the attack. With wonders getting snatched away from me left and right my only option was to get completely offensive (never hard for me). Meanwhile Punkbass was over in his corner of the world quietly accumulating his wonders and leaving us all in the dust. Darn those ruthlessly effiecient Egyptians!

I received the save from King Stu yesterday. I presume there is no point in moving this along further. Maybe I'll open it up to see if it ends the scenario...

I retired. All the Babylonians fell on swords they were preparing to use in battle with High Tights. I received confirmation from LouLong that a PBEM game ends like this with a Victory Pop Up only for the winner. Very important to take that screen shot.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~warningu2/Files/beantown_3.jpg

I don't begrudge Punkbass for the win. Good Game and congrats again. :king: This is the first PBEM scenario I have ever finished despite several attempts that all eventually die. So this was a great way to see that a PBEM game can actually be played out.

Morale of the story is understand the victory conditions going into the game. Still I didn't necessarily like the way this ended. It was just getting exciting battle wise. I had a bunch of swordsman going to the front since my Bowman were struck down pretty effectively. (nice job Hittites) The Sumerians were just about to take on Phoenicians. (We had a 3 way alliance) But boing there's that darn wonder. :)

Next time I will give Wonders more attention.

I sympathize with you WU2. I wasn't a big fan of the way it ended. I had planned to invade eastward from the beginning. By the time I was getting ready to set up, I noticed I could grab the HG quickly and that the MoM was about to be built. I then realized that the final wonder wasn't in the final age, it was just at the end of a dead-tech-branch. I immediately bought the first tech in that tree and then researched the next two in four-turns each, while using a palace pre-build in my best coastal city (production-wise). I had not expected it to end so early either, as I say, I only recognized the implications of the scenario eight turns before the game was over, so I quickly amassed troops on the Phoenician border in order to steal the Colossus a turn or two before I discovered Navigation.

So who was in the 3 way alliance? Babs, Medeans, and Sumerians? Or Egyptians? As for the wonder, I noticed it was in that age as well, but didn't realize the implications. No one was building it, so I had a palace build going as well to switch, but my coastal cities were very weak compared to my core. Nice job on the alliance whatever it was - was it the wonderless vs the wonder-full? Or just pick on the Hittites. I was half waiting for the Mycenaeans to be bought in on behalf of the Babs to cause me some grief on my back side.

When was the alliance formed? Before or after the Babs original attacks? Just curious. Diplomatically I was shut out pretty early once the battles began.

The alliance did not include Egypt. I was politically isolated ;) My only trade was through the Myceneans and a lux deal with the Phoenecians.

I initiated it with Medes first because the Hittites seemed to be running away with both points and land mass. You really pissed me off too because you were expanding east when you had ample land to your west. My plan was to expand to that horse and then attack Phoenicia however when you built that city and locked me out of that horse available ... oh that broke the camels back :mad: :) I didn't want to worry about Sumerians so I baited them with an alliance to allow him free transport through my land to Phoenicia. I really didn't want to win at this point just cause chaos :mischief: My cities were producing swordsman like mad - 5 every two turns - when punkbass won. What was hurting me was the time it took for me to assemble my troops ... I couldn't get them to the front fast enough.

I initiated it with Medes first because the Hittites seemed to be running away with both points and land mass. You really pissed me off too because you were expanding east when you had ample land to your west. My plan was to expand to that horse and then attack Phoenicia however when you built that city and locked me out of that horse available ... oh that broke the camels back :mad: :) I didn't want to worry about Sumerians so I baited them with an alliance to allow him free transport through my land to Phoenicia. I really didn't want to win at this point just cause chaos :mischief: My cities were producing swordsman like mad - 5 every two turns - when punkbass won. What was hurting me was the time it took for me to assemble my troops ... I couldn't get them to the front fast enough.

Now couldn't we have just traded horsies and attacked someone else? :) You were really stretching yourself thin expanding north like that. And the land to my west was all a hilly mess and a pain to connect. The Medean alliance would have turned the tide. As for your sword production, I was able to spit out 4 to 5 companion infantry each turn at that point. That production allowed me to reinforce Adana so quickly. Before your attack I had maybe 1 spear in Adana. By the time your stack was there, I had about 8 horsies, a few 3 men and 4 or 5 spears. But the Medeans would have definitely made a mess of things. If only I could have gotten Sumeria to attack you on the rear. Chaos you managed. :D

Now surely someone else was watching the Egyptian score, right? I couldn't have been the only one. The Hittites may have been leading in points (until close to the end), but not by much over Egypt.

But the Medeans would have definitely made a mess of things.

Yeah, that's about all we're good for. :D

It really was a wonderless vs. wonder-ful alliance. When WarningU2 proposed it I had just lost out on yet another wonder and was so bitter and frustrated I just wanted to lash out (what a world leader I'd make, eh?). WarningU2 had a pretty sizable force so I thought it would be better to join him rather than try to beat him. Getting King Stuart on board was key so that we wouldn't have to worry about our other borders and could focus on a single front to the west.

For me the plan was pretty simple: push west until stopped. It took a while to gather my forces but I finally rolled in everything I could into the Hittites' territory. Also, I had just started banging out immortals which really could have done some damage. Of course, the Hittites would be building up their military too, but I hoped to at least take them down a notch before they stopped me. And it's not like I was picking on you, Spike It. You were just more convenient to attack! The ironic thing was that the turn before the game ended I asked WarningU2 what were going to do about the Egyptians who seemed to be running away with the game. If only they had been the ones on our borders...

And it's not like I was picking on you, Spike It. You were just more convenient to attack! The ironic thing was that the turn before the game ended I asked WarningU2 what were going to do about the Egyptians who seemed to be running away with the game. If only they had been the ones on our borders...

:lol: Too little too late I guess. Egypt managed to slip under the radar long enough. Don't worry about me. I'll take being picked on as a compliment to my position in the game at that point. There definitely wasn't a good reason for anyone to join me at that point given my position in score. It would just solidify my spot. Its too bad the Myceneans weren't in a more strategically beneficial spot for me to at least pull them in to play a little interference.

Anyhow, I enjoyed that as my first PBEM and MP game. There's a lot more to think about when its real people behind the civ leaderheads than just the mindless AI. Strategically things are upped a notch when you can't "peak" at the techs the other humans have in the F4 screen. Having a AI civ in the game probably sped things up a bit research wise as I'm sure I'm not the only one to use the Myceneans to purchases a tech or two from.