Welcome to the term 4 culture ministry.

Minister of Culture: MOTH
Deputy: Ashburnham

Status of our Wonder Builds
Zojoji just completed Magelan's wonder!

Regent Town is currently building Heroic Epic and will be complete in 1 turn.

Yatta is building the Forbidden Palace (due in many turns).

Osgiliath is building a Palace as a pre-build for a factory so that it will be more prepared for future wonder building.

Shorin-Ryu is build Military Academy which will be completed soon.

Status of AI Wonder Builds and cascades
No nation is building any wonder at this time.

Status of Border culture wars
Grumpypuss vs Dijon: in favor of Dijon. Grumpypuss has 56 culture and Dijon has more than 100. At stake is 1 plains tile.

Kagemusha vs Tugela: unknown. Kagemusha has 126 culture and Tugela has at least 10 but less than Rouen (french). No tiles are at stake as all tiles are either in the core 9 or not in the 21 of the other city.

Bentropolis vs Isandhlwana: unknown. Bentro has 302 culture and Isand has at least 10. No tiles are at stake as all tiles are either in the core 9 or not in the 21 of the other city.

Osgiliath vs Mpondo: in favor of Osgiliath. Osgiliath has 999 culture which is more than Mpondo. We hve won a hill and mountain tile.

Duckburg vs Intombe: in favor of Intombe. Duckburg has 317 culture. Intombe has more than 317 and less than Corrino (1239). At stake are 2 jungle tiles.

Mauch Chunk vs Intombe: in favor of Intombe. Mauch Chunk has 30 culture. Intombe has more than 317 and less than Corrino (1239). At stake are 1 hill, 1 Silk, and 1 coast tile.

Gerunshi vs Ellipi: in favor of Ellipi. Gerunshi has 164 and Ellipi has more than 1130. At stake is 1 Plains tile.

Regent Town vs Ellipi: slightly in favor of Ellipi. Regent has 1130 and Ellipi has more than this. At stake are 2 Plains tiles.

Regent Town vs Ur: in favor of Regent. Regent has 1130 and Ur has less than this. At stake is 1 forest tile.

Epolenep vs Akkad: slightly in favor of Akkad. Epo has 927 and Akkad has less than 1000. At stake is 1 horse and 1 hill tile.

Manchai vs Akkad: in favor of Akkad. Manchai has 293 and Akkad has between 927 and 1000 . At stake is 1 horse and 1 coast tile.

All of the recently captured cities are in danger of flipping and need culture.

Minister MOTH,

We have a lot of wonders which could shortly be available. Are you going to investigate commencing prebuilds so that we can obtain the wonders as soon as possible?

National Culture: 18400

The Romans are in awe of our culture.
The Aztecs, Americans, Iroqouis, Babylonians, Zulu, Chinese, and Russians are admirers of our culture.
The French are impressed with our culture.

Cities
Salamanca
Total Culture: 30
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 35
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Roma
Total Culture: 212
Culture per Turn: 5
Turns until Expansion: 158
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)

Fanatikku
Total Culture: 1929
Culture per Turn: 23
Turns until Expansion: 351
Cultural Sources:
- Palace (2 per Turn)
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (4 per Turn)

Yatta
Total Culture: 18
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 41
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Building the Forbidden Palace in 61 Turns

Furuyama
Total Culture: 428
Culture per Turn: 4
Turns until Expansion: 143
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)

Niagara Falls
Total Culture: 0
Culture per Turn: --
Turns until Expansion: --
Cultural Sources:
- building a Temple in 12 Turns

Immo
Total Culture: 1102
Culture per Turn: 16
Turns until Expansion: 557
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)

Doomsville
Total Culture: 349
Culture per Turn: 8
Turns until Expansion: 82
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- building a University in 3 Turns

Hill Valley
Total Culture: 40
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 30
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- building a Library in 3 Turns

Epolenep
Total Culture: 927
Culture per Turn: 14
Turns until Expansion: 6
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)

Cattaraugus
Total Culture: 0
Culture per Turn: --
Turns until Expansion: --
Cultural Sources:
- building a Temple in 10 Turns

Cumae
Total Culture: 30
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 35
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Zojoji
Total Culture: 1845
Culture per Turn: 26
Turns until Expansion: 314
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)
- Copernicus' Observatory (4 per Turn)
- Magellan's Voyage (3 per Turn)

Odawara
Total Culture: 1560
Culture per Turn: 25
Turns until Expansion: 338
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)
- Newton's Observatory (6 per Turn)

Shorin-Ryu
Total Culture: 1669
Culture per Turn: 20
Turns until Expansion: 417
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Smith's Trading Company (3 per Turn)
- building the Military Academy in 3 Turns

Wakashio
Total Culture: 30
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 35
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Baldur's Gate
Total Culture: 138
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 431
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Regent Town
Total Culture: 1130
Culture per Turn: 16
Turns until Expansion: 555
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)
- building the Heroic Epic in 1 Turn

Port Solema
Total Culture: 120
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 440
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Corrino
Total Culture: 1239
Culture per Turn: 19
Turns until Expansion: 462
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Libarry (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)

Nihilon
Total Culture: 351
Culture per Turn: 5
Turns until Expansion: 130
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- building a University in 62 Turns

Osgiliath
Total Culture: 999
Culture per Turn: 14
Turns until Expansion: 1
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- building a Palace in 42 Turns

Tonawanda
Total Culture: 0
Culture per Turn: --
Turns until Expansion: --
Cultural Sources:
- building a Temple in 19 Turns

En'Gha
Total Culture: 1270
Culture per Turn: 21
Turns until Expansion: 416
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (6 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)
- Colosseum (2 per Turn)
- Wall Street (2 per Turn)

Ominato
Total Culture: 168
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 416
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Sto'vo'kor
Total Culture: 431
Culture per Turn: 14
Turns until Expansion: 41
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)
- University (4 per Turn)

Windurst
Total Culture: 464
Culture per Turn: 10
Turns until Expansion: 54
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)

Pete
Total Culture: 323
Culture per Turn: 10
Turns until Expansion: 68
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)

Manchai
Total Culture: 293
Culture per Turn: 7
Turns until Expansion: 101
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)

Bentropolis
Total Culture: 302
Culture per Turn: 4
Turns until Expansion: 175
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (4 per Turn)

Gerunshi
Total Culture: 164
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 418
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Grumpypuss
Total Culture: 56
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 22
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Kagemusha
Total Culture: 126
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 437
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Izanaga-No-Mikoto
Total Culture: 30
Culture per Turn: 2
Turns until Expansion: 35
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)

Drachenfels
Total Culture: 296
Culture per Turn: 5
Turns until Expansion: 141
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)

Duckburg
Total Culture: 317
Culture per Turn: 8
Turns until Expansion: 86
Cultural Sources:
- Temple (2 per Turn)
- Library (3 per Turn)
- Cathedral (3 per Turn)

Wonders
The Russians have The Colossus (Moscow, 290BC) and The Great Library (Delhi, 530BC).

The Babylonians have The Great Lighthouse (Nineveh, 230AD) and Leonardo's Workshop (Ur, 1000AD).

The Iroqouis have The Hanging Gardens (Grand River, 250AD).

The Aztecs have The Oracle (Tenochtitlan, 530BC) and Sun Tzu's Art of War (Tenochtitlan, 920AD).

The Zulu have The Great Wall (Zimbabwe, 510BC).

The French have JS Bach's Cathedral (Marseilles, 1040AD).

The Chinese have no Wonders.

We have Smith's Trading Company (Shorin-Ryu, 970AD), Copernicus' Observatory (Zojoji, 920AD), Sistine Chapel (Salamanca, 1020AD), The Pyramids (Salamanca, 530BC), Newton's University (Odawara, 1210), and Magellan's Voyage (Zojoji, 1290)!

Congratulations Minister MOTH and Deputy Ashburnham. I wish you a great Term here in the Culture Ministry. :thumbsup:

Please confer with Domestic Minister Zarn (and First General Provolution if necessary,) about Culture Risks regarding flips, both negative and positive.

Deputy Ashburnham,
I believe in a higher power, but I am personally opposed to all religions, as such, I wish for you to keep the title of Pope.

As far as duties of the office of deputy, It would be a great help to me if you would continue to provide your wonderful reports. I will prepare analysis of the various border regions and make recommendations to the people and to the governors. I will also look into the building of wonders at this time.

Thanks - MOTH

Deputy Ashburnham,
I believe in a higher power, but I am personally opposed to all religions, as such, I wish for you to keep the title of Pope.

As far as duties of the office of deputy, It would be a great help to me if you would continue to provide your wonderful reports. I will prepare analysis of the various border regions and make recommendations to the people and to the governors. I will also look into the building of wonders at this time.

Thanks - MOTH


Your wish is my command, Boss. ;)

Minister MOTH,

Unfortunately, I will be absent from the Demogame for a while, as it appears I have appendicitis. I'm off to the hospital and won't be back for at least a week. Take care.


Regards,
Deputy Ashburnham

Minister MOTH,

Unfortunately, I will be absent from the Demogame for a while, as it appears I have appendicitis. I'm off to the hospital and won't be back for at least a week. Take care.


Regards,
Deputy Ashburnham

Get well soon and ask for extra painkillers. ;)

This turn chat saw a turn of the tide in the Regent Town vs Elippi border culture war with Elippi taking the lead. This was suprising in that Regent Town is at maximum culture production until some of the existing improvements double in production.

No unexpected changes in borders were seen this turn chat. Several former Iroquois cities have new culture and expansion.

Regent Town and Elippi both expanded past the 1000 culture point both on the turn 3/4 IBT. Elippi cannot be leading by much and it is hoped that Heroic Epic (to be completed in about 10 turns) will help turn the tide back in favor of Regent Town.

Minister Moth
I have been requested to analyze expected science progression. As part of my analysis I would love to know your position on construction of TOE. Do you hope to do a pre-build? How many turns do you expect it will take after we discover Scientific Method?

...and do you have any plans for *the Dam*?

@civman2004,
My thoughts on ToE under a limited wonders policy is that it should be built to fight culture wars in a border area. As such, I expect to start a pre-build as soon as we have factories in the applicable cities.

@crimso,
Under the limited wonders policy I believe that Hoover's should be built for the major benefit it provides.

Minister MOTH,

As Culture Minister, and the one who would stand to gain the most from investigations of Culture Threats, I wish for you to participate in the discussion in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104831), in preparation for the Emergency Turnchat Tuesday Evening.

Here is the data the Culture Ministery requested:

Indusrtialization (3 Turns untill completion)
Medicine (Research will take 7 turns)
Sanitation (Research will take 7 turns)
Electricity (Research will take 10 turns)
Scientific Method (Research will take 7 turns) (TOE!!)
Replaceable Parts (research will take 10 turns)

Number of turns untill we can build the Theory of Evolution: 34
Number of turns untill the tech queue ends: 44

That's excellent news, Strider. I suggest we pick a site for ToE immediately and set up a pre-build that will finish sometime around 34 turns. We could feasibly have the Theory of Evolution the very turn we discover Scientific Method.

31 Turns, Ash. Palace is currently being occupied by Osgiliath, and US won't be available until then.

Well, There's Shorin Ryu... Though with the "Iron Diversion" railline, Zojoji could compete...

I thought we had decided not to build Universal Suffrage (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104320), in which case we can simply use Osgiliath to build ToE instead. Problem solved. :)

People voted against Universal Suffrage, that is a given.

Post #1 updated for 1295AD.

Minister Moth, now that it appears war is imminent, would it be possible to have your Ministry approve the building of the Universal Sufferage Wonder?

This wonder would not be built for the Hawks that want war, but for the women who stay home and do the jobs of the men who get to have all the fun killing and maming their fellow human beings. :) Let's give this equal rights movement a shot in the arm, so to speak.

If Zojoji switched from an Ironclad, the US could be done in less than 20 turns. :D

Minister Moth, now that it appears war is imminent, would it be possible to have your Ministry approve the building of the Universal Sufferage Wonder?

This wonder would not be built for the Hawks that want war, but for the women who stay home and do the jobs of the men who get to have all the fun killing and maming their fellow human beings. :) Let's give this equal rights movement a shot in the arm, so to speak.

If Zojoji switched from an Ironclad, the US could be done in less than 20 turns. :D

Yes, more wonders in Zarnia :). It was surprising last time that anyone was even against granting suffrage to everyone in our great nation. Are we really that backwards?!

Minister MOTH

I believe we may soon be at War with the Zulu, despite our efforts to avoid it. This may however give rise to a Great Leader who could potentially be used to rush a Wonder, possibly even this Universal Sufferage we have had so much discussion about. There is little time however before the next chat to discuss this.

I consider Forbidden Palace priority one per last poll on Great Leaders.
However, womens voting rights are not that urgent, of course with the exception of the Ladies of the House, Furiey and Chieftess.

The Forbidden Palace finally nears completion (again). The building of Universal Suffrage cannot be done without an override of previous votes (which can't be done in 3 days). The pre-build for Scientific Method is coming along nicely.

I would say that if we get a great leader from the potential war with the Zulu's that we should hold onto it and poll on its use. My personal preference would be to rush Shakespeare's Theatre in a location where it would help push a culture war.

In either case, I will leave it up to Term V Culture Ministry to help determine this.

I agree that holding on to a GL, as opposed to spending it the Forbidden Palace, is a good idea. I'm thinking that Hoover Dam may be the best use for it.

Gentlemen, Mayor Cyc and Minister Moth

You made me think... Our biggest cultural rival is France, and I would probably vouch for a wonder on the French border, to secure the Mustard Hills, and potential strategic resources in the region. Culturally, we are crushing Babylonians, Iroqi and Zulus, Rome is gone, so I would call for a wonder on the French border, where we normally cannot build due to corruption levels.

Not a bad idea, Provo. Of course, it hinges on us getting a Great Leader, thereby necessitating a war that we don't actually have to fight. But, that's an argument for another thread..