Well, we're over halfway through. And headed to the Holidays.

Tenative Schedule:

#1: Sat 12/4, 8 PM CST
#2: Wed 12/8, 8:15 PM CST
Everything else is dependent on my Exams. It's likely that I won't be able to conduct TC #3 (Teantive for either the 12th or 13th) myself due to deadlines both at School and Work. The other ones are tenative for the 18th, 22nd, and 27th/29th.

Wanted: Vice President.

Congratulations with the Reelection. :) Honorable President Sir Donald 3.

I have one small request. I suggest to repatriate the 8 Roman workers in the North, primarily Kagemusha, as it just built an aqueduct, and can house a full 5-6 more citizens.
This would help on the French border, as we are bulding up demographic and cultural strength in the region to signal our power to France.

I suggest 4 Roman workers for Kagemusha, 2 for Tugela and 2 for Yatta.

wow hardly anyone conratulated you for wining. will congrats. it was a mazing our easy your election was, such a co"winci"dence that everyone else "Pulled out" of the race. your welcome.

Nobody: :lol:

More like nobody "showed up." (For a person to have "Pulled Out", they would've had to self-non but declared to be undecided.)

Honorable President

Please stop ALL unit builds in Yatta, MSAV hates regulars and Yatta got no barracks. Presently, you build infantry there.

Please change artillery in Corrino to Infantry, as our Artillery Quota is complete.
Civgeneral is notified on this.

Finally, upgrade per poll posted recently, Modernization Reform 1C.

Next Naval Reform is underways when this is passed.

Honorable President

Ravenna 440 AD conquest (babbler) Port Solema
Hispalis 450 AD conquest (msz4) Ominato
Neo Neapolis 490 AD (Provolution) Kagemushab
"North Corrino" 520 AD (Annatar) Drachenfels
Viroconum 590 AD conquest (Ankka) Duckburg

I just observed in the citizen thread that there has been conducted a slight error, so I will ask the President, who as designated player is in charge of the naming of cities, should make the following corrections. This is just to follow the naming conventions of the Demogame.

Drachenfels-Kagemusha
Duckburg-Drachenfels
Kagemusha-Duckburg

This can be done pre turnchat this turnchat.

Other name updates are:

In direct sequence of acquisition.

Cattaraugus-Civanatoria
Cumae-Vandopolis
Oil Springs-Ela
TBD Coal City- Huntington Beach/Rotterdam (Rotterdam is shorter, no beach)
Tugela-Arrakis

Future 3 Cities:

Mr President,
I had volunteered via PM with bigmeat to be duputy governor for his province, but I have not heard from him and don't think he has been online. I would like to request that you appoint me as interim Deputy Governor until he returns and posts or until his office is declared vacant. This will allow for me to analyze and post instuctions in bigmeat's absence.

Thanks - MOTH

Mr President, or donny between us freinds, im not sure but i think your the worker guy. If we decide to give away TBD (Kyoto)(?) then you should move that worker into the city first so he can zoom home. otherwise the russians will attack him and start the war anyway.
So make sure you move that worker. thanks

How shall we interpret the non-answers in this thread? Rejection or approval ?

Interpret Non-Answers as "I am researching into the matter".

As for the renaming order, I'd rather not rename a city that we're just going to give away. I Would've renamed Niagara falls if I had given thought to it, but had lost interest after I lost my bid to rename Salamanca with Civanator's cityname as per how despots do things in Roleplay (and it would have "dropped" him 1 slot).

As for the naming order item, your raising the suggestion implies that you have given your approval, Provo; But in my opinion, the corrupt backwaterness kind of gave Kagemusha its casino town flavor. And also, would we have been so quick to improve that city if we didn't have such a strong advocate as Mayor?

Also, I would have to rename Yatta and ALL of our Iroquois Conquests up to Cumae if I do proceed with this. (You weren't the only citizen "harmed" by a mismanaged order, though Epi had nothing to do with the Yatta affair (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104182).

Would you rather I poll the corrections? And if I DO poll, then it's an All, None, or Abstain measure. No inbetweens.


MOTH: Your issue is being dealth with in the relevant thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=106670) in the Citizen's forum

Mr President,
I had volunteered via PM with bigmeat to be duputy governor for his province, but I have not heard from him and don't think he has been online. I would like to request that you appoint me as interim Deputy Governor until he returns and posts or until his office is declared vacant. This will allow for me to analyze and post instuctions in bigmeat's absence.

Thanks - MOTH

SD3 has no power to appoint MOTH as deputy. In this ruling (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2229678&postcount=25) the court found that a vacant deputy position is filled VIA appointment by the office holder


-Office of the Chief Justice

In this ruling the court found that a vacant deputy position is filled VIA appointment by the office holder

...damn you Big Meeaaat!

President SD3

Frankly, I liked the corrupt backwaterness, but it would be fun for the next installment in
the RPG story to switch names back. Kagemusha is kind of run out of stories. I sense that a switch to the legally sequentially appropriate names would be fun. Imagine how the mafia moved to Las Vegas. Drachenfels is pretty corrupt too, and not far away from the Hoover Dam (electricity). I also think Duckburg on the border, and Drachenfels in the Zulu mountains make more sense too (Dragon Mountains). So fix the naming order, and do it as it should have been. This will as many people pointed out not change the strategy of the game, but change the roleplay part.

(Duckburg and Grumpypuss sort of belong together, and Kagemusha actually means "Mask Change" in Japanese, or "Double Identity" for the Emperors Double in order to avoid assassination). I have not pressed any such issues so far in the game, but right should be right. I also got a great story for the city change to take place, to revive the flow of the game.

Honorable President,
This is an advisory post so that the DP has some guidance on the WOTP in regard to Itakaji province with no acting governor and no deputy governor. Only bigmeat (if he shows up) has actual authority to post instructions for this province. Only Ominato has a build queue remaining from the last legally posted instructions for the province. My understanding is that the DP has the authority to set build queues after these have run out, and you can therefore change the builds in each of the other cities.

I have initiated discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=106670) and polled the people (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=106834). The results of this are being posted to the Presidential Thread for the your consideration. Each of the build queues below recieved at least 9 out of 10 votes cast in approval.

Please note that there is additional discussion and polling on rushes for some builds under the authority of the Domestic Ministry.

Suggested build queues for Itakaji Province:

Port Solema: Coastal Fort>Factory>Market>Library
Additional Build queue once Library is built: University
Laborers: MM for Growth in 1 and Coastal Fortress in 1.

Baldur's Gate: Factory>University>Colosseum>Hospital
Laborers: Vacate Wheat (for Roma) and unroaded Forest and move to other mined Grasslands.

Roma: Factory>University>Colosseum>Infantry
Laborers: Just click on Roma to move citizens to 30 SPT and 31 FPT.

Ominato:
Existing Build Queue: Aquaduct>Market
Additional Build Queue: Harbor>Library
Additional Build queue once Library is built: University
Notes: Ominato only gets 8SPT and can't get much higher, so it won't get a Factory.

Wakashio: Factory>Library
Additional Build queue once Library is built: University>Cathedral
Laborers: MM to get 15 SPT and 17 FPT vacating the two irrigated plains that Yatta will use.

Yatta: Factory>Library
Additional Build queue once Library is built: University>Cathedral
Laborers: MM to get 19 SPT and 18 FPT for growth in 1.

Provo: So Ordered.

MOTH: You're right about the build queue preogatives. I'll just link your post to mine and give consideration there.

Mr.President,
This is simply to inform you, though it should come as no surprises that I have ruled as prescribed by Judicial Code that the office of Governor of the Itakaji province is vacant. Per the powers given to you by our constitution you may now name a successor.

-Mhcarver
Chief Justice

A Nominee has placed himself in mind, but I will wait a little while for others to pop up and/or Domestic to recommend.

A Nominee has placed himself in mind, but I will wait a little while for others to pop up and/or Domestic to recommend.

I recommend MOTH, he has shown dedication and initiative to solve the problem of the ghost governor.

Pres SD3,

I have reviewed your request and found that Yatta, Vandopolis, Salamanca, Ominato, Izanaga-No-Mikoto, Hill Valley, Ela Spring, Civanatoria, and Arrakis all meet the requirements.

Of these, I would recommend the cities of Yatta, Vandopolis, Ominato, Arrakis, and Izanaga-No-Mikoto. I suggest that Arrakis get 2 workers, while the rest get one to be integrated. As for the last remaining worker, that is up to your choosing, but Minister-General-Mayor Provolution has request that the worker be integrated into Kagemusha. I chose these cities because their populations are low compared to our national average, especially Arrakis.

On another note, who has control of Tonawanda? It is on the very tip of Babylon.

Minister Blackheart:

Thank you for your Recommendations. As to your Question, I will answer it when I have the time to Research past months' polls/discussions. IIRC, it's in Hai Rando because the "Potential Border" between it and Itakaji is nearly the same as the Babylonian-Iroquois Border.

Speaking of which: Due to the vacancy recently declared; as well as his tireless advocacy and experience, and the Domestic Minister's Recommendation, I hereby name MOTH as Interim Governor of Itakaji!

I hereby name MOTH as Interim Governor of Itakaji!

Lest this give the wrong impression, please clarify this appointment is for the remainder of the term, right? :D "Interim" could be viewed as some to mean a shorter period.

Minister Blackheart:

Thank you for your Recommendations. As to your Question, I will answer it when I have the time to Research past months' polls/discussions. IIRC, it's in Hai Rando because the "Potential Border" between it and Itakaji is nearly the same as the Babylonian-Iroquois Border.

Speaking of which: Due to the vacancy recently declared; as well as his tireless advocacy and experience, and the Domestic Minister's Recommendation, I hereby name MOTH as Interim Governor of Itakaji!

Thank you Mister President. I had wanted something less demanding this term as my time is very limited due to RL. I will open a thread and post recommended build queues, but I really can't devote as much time to this as I would like. If anyone else aplies for the job then I would be happy to give them a chance.

THanks

Greetings Mr President,

I would like to bring to your attention a concerned citizen's view of the pending war with Russia. From a quick reading of comments in various threads, it appears that this war will be conducted by MSAV without significant input from the people, even on strategic war objectives. I'd recommend you move slowly or even delay the chat so the people's will can be determined.

Edit: well, there is at least a poll. Too bad it's so convoluted, but I guess something is better than nothing.

President, I recommend you to go on. People have had 4-5 days to come up with alternatives, of which homedefense, naval defense and variations of landings with what units we got have been included, with all options originating from the instructions.

The poll is convoluted thanks to CIAs failure to poll the settler, and thanks to confusion from the FA (historically) on how to balance MPPs with war objectives.
These are for the purposes of the Demogame advisory. It is also convoluted due to the new technologies coming after this turnchat and next, that will radically influence unit builds and miltiary strategy.

This conflict with Russia provides a golden opportunity for our President to be more than just a turn player, but to be a true leader. The various ministries need to be coordinated, and these are critical decisions which can cement our desired victory condition, or poison it beyond repair, dooming us to some other, less palatable victory. I implore you to ensure all the strategic ramifications of each course of action are fully considered prior to proceeding. :)

Honorable President

You vasically need to sequence our challenges at hand:

1.
We lost 8000 in gold trades with Russia, plus Huntington Beach, violated pride of Rights of Passage violation. This was due to a settler that was not polled or even decided on.

2. Sequence decisions in a joint bundle based on a decision-making tree, based on turns.

Found Bait City in Tundra (Yes/No)
If Yes, proceed to MPP Agreements, If No, proceed to evacuation and Home Defense

If MPP following Tundra Bait City, Aztecs and America, possibly France and Babylon

If Home defense, decide on naval blockade or shore based defense, possibly consider same as above MPPs

3. Enact Sitzkrieg, Shorai Line or Operation Classical Furiey, Phase 1 Invasion.

4. Modality, raid Core Russia.

Provo:
Definitely consider "Same as above MPPs."

I went with Nobody's limited options (Option B in the poll, China added to your recommendations) solely because IF the Ruskies invade under those conditions, they lose all trade deals under that scenario.

Mr. President, just for the record, can you tell us what your stance was on the founding of TBD (Coal City, whatever) from the very begining? Were you in favor of this colonial city or against it? How were you trying to motivate our citizens and what were your motivations?

I personally don't have all the time needed to wade through the rhetoric to find the answer, so I thought I'd ask you. It seems the Japanaticans (your people) wanted to instigate this war from the begining. Now they want to change horses in the middle of the screwup and claim their goal of Diplo Victory boldly in the face of us who pay attention. We caused this war, we are in it. Let's stop the schoolgirl kiss-butt Diplo approach and kick some Civ3 butt.

BTW, I'd still appreciate an answer to the first paragraph.

Cyc:
I was Against Coal City for the sole reason that it was isolated and could not be served by our forces beyond the original party until the advent of Flight.

I advocated, however, for a settlement along the German Coast as a forward service base. A setlement along the Coast would be better serviced than a landlocked one. That settler party, which was never polled either way, was waht the Rusians attacked.

Now, I persoanlly and Officially say that Russia had not justidiction to attack this party. At all. If anyone would have had a grievence, it would have been China.

Cyc:

The Coal City also failed to follow up with a ROP Treaty with Russia as well as solid relations across the continent. I think some of us wanted to assure that the frail power balance of the region was not tilted too much towards China. Now, Coal City was also supposed to sell coal to Russia, but trade rejected selling them coal, so they got desperate to get the coal the only way they could. Things worked smoothly in Term IV, in Term V, things go less smoothly, and that is the reason.

Cyc:

The Coal City also failed to follow up with a ROP Treaty with Russia as well as solid relations across the continent. I think some of us wanted to assure that the frail power balance of the region was not tilted too much towards China. Now, Coal City was also supposed to sell coal to Russia, but trade rejected selling them coal, so they got desperate to get the coal the only way they could. Things worked smoothly in Term IV, in Term V, things go less smoothly, and that is the reason.
Or perhaps the reason is they saw an easy target and nabbed it.

Again, diplomacys fault, no RoP, and no development of the city made it hard to hold.
Delaying nationalism did not make it better.

We GAVE them Coal City and RoP 20 years ago. They didn't "nab" it.

But too late, only when they had 30 units around. No relationship was developed at all, and we got aggressive trades there. The worst part was when we rejected the coal deal, their own coal. If we traded them coal, it would be different.

But I did not vote for it. That was one of my 5 Abstains this demogame.

Mr.President
Because of voter approved changes to election law that can be found in this thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=106494) you are required to appoint someone to head the election office . Though this has not yet officially been added to the COL it should be soon as I have Pm'd Rik Meleet.

-Mhcarver
Office of the Chief Justice

Edit:the changes have been made

As per CoL Section H1(d,i), I hereby Appoint MhCarver, Crimso, and Trotsky7 as "Officers of Elections".

Please see this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2438977&postcount=12) in the election thread, we may need a stand-in elections officer if Crimso doesn't post the election polls.

Mr. President, in this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2439955&postcount=28) the Cultural Minister has given Departmental consent to building the Iron Works Wonder in the great city of Zojoji. As a matter of authorizing the Instruction for the building of the Wonder, Minister Ashburnham has given the nod to the Governor of Zarnia. Unfortunately, as you are well aware, Governor Zarn has resigned and so far, no replacement has been appointed. I as Mayor of Zojoji would like to request a change in the build queue for our city. If we could put the Small Wonder before the two Infantry units, it would ensure that the Iron resource will not run out before we start the Iron Works.

I'm hoping you agree and make the change in the pre-turn.

Perhaps the solution to the Zojoji Iron Works problem would be to appoint citizen Cyc as governor of Zarnia for the final turn chat of term 5....

I second that solution, MOTH, as he is also returning to Public Service as Culture Minister.

So Cyc, what say you?

:D I was actually going to suggest that, but I didn't want to appear pushy. Thanks. I'd be glad to step in. :thumbsup:

:D I was actually going to suggest that, but I didn't want to appear pushy. Thanks. I'd be glad to step in. :thumbsup:

Hopefully you won't try to push me out of the CIA office in the Zarnia Capitol Building like Zarn did :lol:

So Approved!

Cyc is Temp Governor of Zarnia for Tommorow.

Er... 24 hours later than I expected. Blame birthday dinner for my sister and car shopping for myself

Cool. Thank you Mr. President. I shall post Instructions for Zarnia.



Did you get a car?