This post is dedicated to the addressees and potential lurkers.

I hereby propose, as my very last term as elected official in DG V Japanatica, a PBEM match with the players I find most interesting to write with.
This will be limited in number, so I can only call for the following players to join, even though I could have wanted to have more.

In tradition with Demogame V, as this is a Veterans Match, we are going to be four PBEM players, with 4 AI Civilizations, standard map. Ravaging barbarians, and all Random, civilizations included.

Global Historian and Chair of various historical events.
Cyc

Sir Donald III (Florida) GMT +5
Donovan Zoi (Chicago) GMT +6
Nobody (New Zealand) GMT + 12
Provolution (Scandinavia) GMT - 1

The rules of this PBEM would be the following.

4000 BC Bulletin for start location.
3000 BC Bulletin for core civilization
2000 BC Bulletin
1000 BC Bulletin
500 AD Bulletin
1000 AD Bulletin
1500 AD Bulletin
1600 AD Bulletin
1700 AD Bulletin
1800 AD Bulletin
1905 AD Bulletin

The invitees are selected based on the following

PBEM interest
sound CIV strategy without being civ-professionals
Consistent and entertaining posters
Great humor
Self detachment and irony
Could be an entertaining substitute for future DGs

I hope these gentlemen take up the glove.

(New Zealand) GMT

GMT+12. We are not in england my freind.

Ok i will like to play, but first i have never play multiplayer at all. and second you guys will smash me. :)

Count me in. :D I am GMT +6.

While I would love to see it, I am not sure that Cyc will play. So I would also like to see an invite go out to Furiey and/or ravensfire if that happens. It goes without saying that these two possess the attributes listed in the first post, so why not? ;)

Nobody, you are free to get advise from people, and we will vote on the level.

Mostly, this is not a

"Civ-professional.parade-of-high-and-mighty-forum-experts-pissing-on-noobie-since they-got-this-Civ3site-reputation-game-where-they-show-off-in-order-to-get-praise-they-probably.do-not get-other-places-but-compensate-here-in-order-to-feel-better-than-others-with-mockery-and-self-gratification-on -the-menu" game.

I plan it more congenial, where the storytelling and entertainment skills are set in the forefront. Consider this game more like the entertainment industry, where some more nosy, picky and vinegar sour crowd are more in the chessplayers and micromanagement lounge of tile-usage supremacy. So, this is an ongoing interactive story played out in the Civ 3 arena, where we all write the story through our in-game actions and entertaining comments. This is why boring people are not invited.

last term? Are you quitting the DG?

a pbem will run into the last term i think he means

hmmmm im not interesting to write with? ;) j/k

So am I not interesting enough?

I'm going to guess that my writing style is not enough RPG-ish for you. I know it can't possibly be the "civ professional" thing! :lol:

Good luck, but watch out for slow play, at least one of the invited is legendary for games that take month-long breaks. :rolleyes:

Sorry, Provo. I just saw this thread for the first time today. Thanks for the invite. Unfortunately, I only possess Vanilla Civ3 and swore never to buy another Sic Mieir's game, as I don't feel like cramming another video game box into my veins.

Wait a minute...I need another fix....Ahhh..there that's better. Now where was I?

Oh yeah. I would really love to play your game and feel honored that I was offered the chance, but I don't have MP capabilities. I've learned a lot from the DG Forums and feel I could give you guys a run for your money, but I am a backwards people (Technologically behind ya). Therefore, I must decline.

Thanks again. :thumbsup:

It doesn't mean you don't have to participate in the game directly, Cyc. :)

I know at least I'd love to hear your storytelling about this game. It'd make it all the more interesting (since, if things go as they are planned, it should be an entertaining read).

I am to include a set of PBEM specific rules, and see a way to include Cyc as a storyteller in the game, playing the global role of Pope, UN General Secretary and so on. Some neutral institutional role to add storytelling, as well as committing to give Cyc some information about the game to comment, but not disclose, could make some fun side remarks. I am all for Cycs comments here, they bring some great humor in.

BlackHole classical hero and Daveshack you have all good profiles in the DG.
However, this PBEM is focussed very much on various and entertaining commentaries, so I picked a variety of people across timezones etc.

I would be happy to participate in this game in the manner you propose. :)

If you'd like to supply enough information from the turns played so that I would be able to formulate some sort of storyline base, that would be great. I'm thinking all this should be done via PM, maybe even email. What do you think.

It is an honor to be nominated Historian (you pick the title), and the global role of Pope, UN Sec, whatever would be great as I would be detached from the game while still aware of the game as a whole.

I know provo :)
This will be interesting to watch with Cyc roleplaying Kopee Annan yelling at Bush ;)

I know provo :)
This will be interesting to watch with Cyc roleplaying Kopee Annan yelling at Bush ;)

Who's gonna be a good Bush? ;)

Sorry for not responding sooner... Too busy between running this nation and trying to prepare to make Mods.

I haven't played Multiplayer either.

Hm... I'll have to think about this. While i haven't played Multiplayer before, PBEM does sound like an interesting manner. Again, going to have to think about this...

Oh, and I'm in the "Ten Counties that were forgotten by everyone but the Bushes in 2000." Meaning I'm in the Central Time Zone. (+6)

Sir Donald III (Florida) GMT +5
Donovan Zoi (Chicago) GMT +6


FYI the US timezones are GMT minus -- EST is -5, CST is -6, MST is -7, PST is -8. In the summer these are shifted by one, to -4, -5, -6, -7 except for those places with no daylight savings time (Arizona for example does not need to save daylight, we have plenty thanks ;)

If you need someone to set up the game, I will volunteer to do that if you'll have me. :D

I think I can do this, on the condition that we wait until New Year's at least. (Still have the heavy Holiday Season for grocerries... plus I have to buy a car before...)

Sounds good to me, SD3. Let's get the game setup now, so that when 01/01/05 rolls along, we're ready to start.

For my historians part, I'd like each player to PM me with their pre-game thoughts about where they'd like to take the civiliztion (your main goals). Are you militaristic? Are you going to depend on trade? Do you just want to be a farming community? :)

Let me know a little about the personality of the Leader of your country so I can work that into the storyline.

I truely look forward to this game when the paralegal wizards draft the new demogame, I can do very well without legalists and just playing a fun game with good storytellers. I had thought we could agree on some key information policy rules and procedures to make the flow of the storytelling as well as global political treaties triggered by new technologies (navigation-Treaty of Tordesillas), gambles on who gets the first iron resource and so on, small mini-games adding to the objectives, as well as banning certain game exploits. We should not make the rules too complex, merely adding to the storytelling and the nature of multilateral treaties and so on.

What kind of rule structure do we need? You've already got the game setting listed right? Maybe we would need a rule saying that if a plyer held onto the save for # number of days, they could be replaced. Any other descrepancies could be handled by me. :)

Less than half of the players have PMd me with the info I requested above. Please do so soon. I'd like to be prepared for this. I could write up my own character traits for your King, but you might not like that. ;)

im ready, as soon as i find my cd.

Is this game going anywhere?

yeah im ready *fake punchs the air like a boxer* i found my disk, lets play

Great, I can see this game is just starting. Just as I was looking at CDZ about my *ahem* poor remarks :(.

Im not sure if it's possible to sign up and apply this as a repair of my reputation in CDZ.

I believe the Postmaster may have been exiled....

All right, Cyc, after due consideration I will set up this game. Ideally, I would have had scheduled Mplayer and handled this by 1000 year intervals in order to progress the game.
I am ready to run this and will PM Cyc all my leaders and national details. So I suggest turnchats where we play mplayer 1000 years or 50 turns at a time. PBEM is also an option, but will be slower. I decide to put no more juice into Demogames, as I see the tendency going. I am happy to retire to this in general. I will now ask for a reconfirm of the four players and go on.

hey i have never played any multiplayers. and because of our different time zones email seems best. as long as we do 1 turn every day but even then it will take like 3 years to finish. i dont know

:D I'm here. I've only received a couple of PMs from your players, so if you get a confirmation from them, please have them read the top post on the page. A little info would be great. 50-turn chats may be a little long. I've never played in one. If we're running into a problem, maybe we can do 10 turns each and send it off to the next person, who does 10 turns and sends it off.

:D I'm here. I've only received a couple of PMs from your players, so if you get a confirmation from them, please have them read the top post on the page. A little info would be great. 50-turn chats may be a little long. I've never played in one. If we're running into a problem, maybe we can do 10 turns each and send it off to the next person, who does 10 turns and sends it off.

I think the suggestion was for online turn-based multiplayer. All 4 players would need to be online and they each play one turn at a time. This would be a great way to speed up the early game if all participants are available online at the same time. It would be really great if there were a way to convert an online game to PBEM after some turns pass and it slows down.

:D I'm here. I've only received a couple of PMs from your players, so if you get a confirmation from them, please have them read the top post on the page. A little info would be great. 50-turn chats may be a little long. I've never played in one. If we're running into a problem, maybe we can do 10 turns each and send it off to the next person, who does 10 turns and sends it off.
i dont believe you can do blocks of more than 1 turn at a time... firaxis didnt put it in because otherwise some people could get a bit of an advantage(like waiting 10 turns to respond to a war ;) )

All right, Cyc, after due consideration I will set up this game.

Do you need someone impartial to make sure it's a relatively balanced map and any rule changes you all want to use? If I've been reading right, Cyc can't do that because he doesn't have C3C.

I think the suggestion was for online turn-based multiplayer. All 4 players would need to be online and they each play one turn at a time. This would be a great way to speed up the early game if all participants are available online at the same time. It would be really great if there were a way to convert an online game to PBEM after some turns pass and it slows down.
Yes, DS. Thank you. That's what I thought he meant. All players on at once during marathon chats. But...
i dont believe you can do blocks of more than 1 turn at a time... firaxis didnt put it in because otherwise some people could get a bit of an advantage(like waiting 10 turns to respond to a war )
I hadn't realized this when I typed that post. Thanks for the info Black_Hole.

And I have received no PM from Provolution.

Provolution has posted several places that his gaming system died, so I suspect this game won't see the light of day. :(