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plarq
Dec 20, 2004, 09:44 AM
Standard Arch 80% No Barb.
7 Rivals.
OCC.Demand city in peace treaty and abandon this turn is allowed.
Emperor.
Empress Theodora.
Allow all but Wonder as VC.
Else Random
Preserve seeds.

Rivals(Sequences of meeting):Aztec,France,India,Vikings,Ottoman,(After Lighthouse)Germany,Korea.
I start on a big island,shared with Aztecs.
Starting is bad,all plain and sea tiles but a flood plain and an oasis,at least there's a river.

Significant Times:Meet Aztec and French in very early stages,pulled an 2fer2 deal to cut an edge.
Big Bronze Statue in 1525BC.
1500BC:Constantinople pulled out 10spt.
900BC:Researched Philosophy but no free tech.
650BC:Build MoM and get a dep GA(Not bad shaped,at least I get 2s from irrigated plain and receive gold from Statue)
450BC:Connect iron colony a while ago,declare on French to reclaim Spice in the south.The war gains us 100g.Buildin Great Lighthouse in GA.
290BC:Meet Vikings and Ottomans, they're on the same island and they are fighting. Declare on Aztec by booting their settler pair,as they steal my colony by a new city.Very Well, Vikings and Ottomans build GW,Pyramids and ToA,they're going Construction tree and Ceremonial Burial tree while I'm on Writing Tree.
190BC:Whack Zuma's 118g,we can declare war anytime by booting your troops.
170BC:I build Lighthouse and Indian "sneak suicide" near our capital.French steal our spice once again.
30BC:See Germany and Korea they're also fighting and hopelessly backwards are they.I revolt to Republic. France and Aztec fight.
70AD:Republic of Byzantium established,Aztec razed French spice city,they march through my homeland with 6x troops than mine.But Zuma lacks Iron,building Horses and Archers like mad.I sell spice to Aztec and boot them to get spice back by Zuma's DoW.Osman get Currency and Feudalism,I trade Republic for Currency and get Monotheism,gift German and Korea to MA,get Feudalism from Germany with Republic.
230AD:Peace with Aztec for his 54g,French also makes peace.we're still weak in quantity,Zuma's still in AA and lacks Iron.
290AD:Market in city now.Aztec steals spice and surrounded Constantinople.Ottomans captured Bergen.Istanbul has more culture than Constantinople(We're the same city after all!).
320AD:Boot Aztec to start another war,get Theodora's husband Justinian and another Byzantine Emperor.Become Cathedral and Collosum.MA with Joan d'Arc.I'm defending my home for more than 100 years and still building MDIs and Pikes.
Aztec is 15/22 in Domination.

The game paused in 460AD

Civs in 3 groups:
Byzantine,Aztec,India and France Group1, I'm the most advanced.
Ottoman and Vikings Group2,both in MA,Ottoman is winning.
Germans and Koreans Group3,both in MA,Germany is winning.

Wonderlist in 460AD:
Pyramid:Istanbul
Collossus:Constantinople
Oracle:Paris
ToA:Istanbul
The Lighthouse:Constantinople
MoM:Constantiople
Great Wall:Trondheim
Hanging Garden:Bursa(Ottoman)
Sun Tsu:Building in Istanbul and Berlin
Statue of Zeus:Building in Konigberg

Tech Race:
India:Lacks 3 tech in AA,still dep.At war with me.
Aztec:Lacks Currency.Republic.At war with me.
France:MA now,Republic.We are allied against Aztec.
Vikings:MA now,Republic
Ottomans:MA now,Republic
Germany:MA now,Republic
Korea:MA now,dep.

No one have Literature while half of us are SCI.
I'm up Mono,down Eng to Ottoman,I lack Monarchy but that doesn't matter.
No one's catching up me and Ottomans.

Culture:I'm 1258,Istanbul is 1312
Military:1 Sword,3 Pikes,5 MDI and a Dromon,6 slaves.

rbis4rbb
Dec 20, 2004, 12:10 PM
Good luck!

plarq
Dec 22, 2004, 03:51 AM
500AD,City namer Constantine defeat Aztec Spear.
530AD,German start Great Library,I bought it with Monotheism.
550AD,Ottoman start Leo's.Bought Eng by Mono.
560AD,Aztec enters MA.
640AD,Ottoman beat us 4t in Theology,sigh...
670AD,get Theology,start on Education.
680AD,Siege on Aztec Horse city.Kill 2 spears and a horse,raze it.
690AD,Horse Colony online,start Horseman
720AD,City riots,WW kicks in,damn.
740AD,Leader Theodosius shines in suburban battlefield of Constantinople.I'm going to raze 2nd Horse City to end all the Aztec Horseman junk.
810AD,we have destroyed Aztec horse city.Ottomans start KT.Rebuuild horse colony,our trade route to French is cut by Aztec expanded border,hope my rep is still alive.Sorry but French said we mistreat her,so...Education generates an SGL!I love SCI trait!
Theodosius become the name of capital university.SGL Geminus is waiting for Copernius's if I give him a telescope.I sell Eng to France:79g and 37gpt!Well I can get 5 cities from Aztecs,if I've kept the MGL than...SGL prevents MGL...

Review:We're advanced,Ottomans lack Lit and Education,waste their SCI trait.War on Aztec is fine,destroyed their Horse,build horse colony and gem colony,break our rep with France.Still hoping to get a Diplo or Culture Victory.

rbis4rbb
Dec 22, 2004, 08:51 AM
how long till Constanople expands?

MSTK
Dec 22, 2004, 02:23 PM
You're really lucky that Iron and horses are that close to you.

plarq
Dec 23, 2004, 01:06 AM
I'm pulling 36cpt,a bit more than Istanbul,hope Byzantine stand against Ottoman Turks...Culturally

Hikaro Takayama
Dec 25, 2004, 09:19 PM
Wow, this is some game here (I might have to try a OCC once I can clear some time in my unit/mod making schedule). I don't know if you're already trying this, but I'd try to wipe out all the Aztec cities on your island, then either (a) line the cost with troops (I actually did that with Sicily and Sardinia in the Rise of Rome conquest after I got tired of the Carthaginians landing tons of troops and trying to re-take the cities I had captured there), or (b) group troops in strategic places around resources so that the barbs can't pillage your colonies. Good job, thus far, though

plarq
Jan 05, 2005, 01:18 AM
880AD:Germany knows Invention!Theology gets it along with 28g and 5gpt.Osman have Education and Gunpowder but Lack Literature and Saltpeter(MA doesn't say Musket),so he cannot build Universities and Sipahis.Gift Korea Republic.
960AD:Astonomy->Banking,SGL rushed Copernius
1060AD:Justinian's force generate another MGL Irene by archer fishing!Build army:a.k.a demand 5 Aztec city and disband them after the army building.
1070AD:Get Gunpowder and 33g from Germany with Education.Ottoman has no horse or saltpeter,haha!
1180AD:Bank->Sistine(Prebuild,Physics in 7)But Paris build Sistine,I build Pike and start wealth.
1210AD:French has 2 Saltpeters,I buy it with Education.Ottoman sneak landed warrior and MDI.I bought Music for 88gpt,and ask them to leave,they declare as I expected.I start JSB as prebuild.Well they build it next turn.
1250AD:Lose a MDI to Turkey MDI.
1255AD:We build Heroic Epic as prebuild of Newton.
1285AD:Korea builds Great Library,we send him Education as a present for all his money.Damned Ottoman sends Crusader against me.
1285AD:ToG->Magnetism,Ottoman has Metallurgy,but he's not a peace lover.Ottoman accept 80g peace.Our coast guard of 2 Dromons sink Caravel by Greek Fire.
1345AD:We're once again culture backwards to Istanbul.I'm up ToG while Ottoman up Metallurgy.Straight peace available,wait.
IBT:Ottoman signs Viking against me!The war between them cost Viking 1st ring city,now they declare on me!
1370AD:Newton built in our city.
1380AD:Ottoman beat us to IA.
1385AD:in IBT,Game has a small bug:When Entering the Industial Age,game said we learn Gunpowder from German,in fact we get Medicine as a free tech.Free tech of Ottoman is Steam.Start on Nationalism.War against Aztec is needed again.
1460AD:It's as hard as stone.Ottoman have all 1-tier IA tech,and biggest in the world,Germany is also powerful,and Korean have 1 extra iron.Get everything from France with Nationalism.Several country has democracy,an approach to Shakespears.Set research on Steam.Resource:French take my iron,and she has the worlds's most saltpeter.
1485AD:Start prebuild on Shakespears.As game rule allows,relax version,I gift Aztec city to Vikings.
1515:Steam->Industialization.Ottoman only researched Fascism.No more higher tech now.French has two coal,while Ottoman also have two.Steam worths 142gpt from French!Are you over too rich,my dear Joan?I pay her 6gpt back for her French coal.Start railroading.
1530:Ottoman knows Industrialization,save me 1t.
1550:Ottoman overthrown Democracy and let Nazi take office.Ottoman take all Viking land,Viking capital jump to Aztec gift city.
1570:Industrialization->Free Artistry,prebuild is nearly done.
1580:French lost Amien in the East Isles of France,and Joan d'Arc overthrown democracy towards Fascism.
1590:Vikings and Korea signed against us,Aztec declared on French.
1595:Free Artistry->Electricity.France choose Republic.
1610:Shakespear in Constantipole.
1620:Fighting around Viking Only City to get another Leader.
1630:Peace with Aztec,they are playing 2CC,Ottoman invasion continue on India and France.Disband old army to build new army.
1635:End of Aztec conflict,we love the Empress day in Capital.Build Factory,go on Heroic Epic.Today Empress Theodora signed citizenship to thousands of Aztec slaves,making Capital hits 20 pop.Damned Ottoman,bullied India,France,Germany.
1655:India surrender and sign peace with Ottoman.Game is hard against big but backwards Ottoman,I image a big counterstrike against Ottoman.

Dicorion
Jan 05, 2005, 05:27 AM
Good luck! :goodjob: One question: Did Ottomans get any saltpeter or horses, because there is nothing worse than a lot of Siphahi near the city walls :p

plarq
Jan 08, 2005, 03:58 AM
Ottomans only get a few Sipahis,by short-lived trade with French.
The game doesn't progress as expected,a 20K culture victory.In 1960s I found Ottoman will reach 100K 10t before my 20k,so I build UN,pull dogpile India and Germany against France(Korea,Aztec and Vikings already dead).Win a Diplo Victory in 1989.

I'm the first one to roll out tanks,and the only nation who have Mech Infantry at that time.

rbis4rbb
Jan 08, 2005, 07:29 PM
Good game! Great job!

Dicorion
Jan 10, 2005, 03:36 AM
Nice game at all! :king: Thank you for sharing your comments :salute:
What was the score? What will be the next? :D

plarq
Jan 10, 2005, 11:05 PM
The score is---260
Theodora the Foolish :lol

One of my colleague just said doing OCC is foolish. :blush

Dicorion
Jan 11, 2005, 07:22 AM
For not so fun or for scoring? :lol:

plarq
Jan 14, 2005, 05:36 AM
Nope,the game is fun,but maybe addiction of CIV is foolish :blush:
BTW:I just started a Diety Trial as the Dutch,same sets but no SGL.I'll obey LK's rule in my game.Now in 900BC,I'm moderate advanced,only 1 tech behind and I'm the richest in the world.Theodora is dying to Xerxes' Immortals :cry:

zerialienguru
Jan 16, 2005, 05:34 AM
Great game, i love OCCs :goodjob:

plarq
Jan 17, 2005, 08:06 AM
So is there anyone interested in my Diety Trial?I'd post it later,it's a Diety Dutch Trial,on 80% Standard Archileago No Barbarian,facing Persia,Sumeria and Byzantine on my island :eek: .
Edit:A quick snap ;)

Dicorion
Jan 18, 2005, 01:30 AM
Absolutely! I am now only in emperor level :mischief: , so some tips and tricks from deity will come to use! :crazyeye:

So good luck and thank you for your posts, cause are cool :coffee:

plarq
Feb 04, 2005, 12:37 AM
And then,I beat Sumeria, they're down iron,build lots of wonders.Theodora is playing OCC again.:lol:And then,Carthage demands 53g,I reject and he declares.It was proven to be the terribly foolish move I did,he's up Iron,Horse and SoZ :eek: and his forces wiped out my outer island(I gift cities to Theodora to save them).The good side is I build two Sword Army against Sumeria and Carthage.I can't play these days,it's log on the last day I stay with Civ in January. :p

Dicorion
Feb 04, 2005, 01:49 AM
Well, still a nice game :goodjob: I was trying one to one on diety, got very bad start and withdraw after a couple of turns. Than I realize in rewiew that in the end I have 3times less cities than my only oponent :rolleyes: in spite of the fact, that I bild settlers like mad with just two or three wariors :cry: How can you play it :eek: