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We all know that it really dosent cost the goverment any money to produce films in hollywood. in fact its not even the goverment producing them...(at least i think) and yet hollywood itself does a great job entertaining many people around the western world, and the best part, its a multi-billion dollar business that runs itself.

I dont see why there shouldnt be a Great Wonder which is able to cut the entertainment costs by at least 50%...

I have no idea what a wonder such as this would look like or be called but i think it should exist.

It could be a small wonder that puts a TV Station in every city and gets 6cpt.

that would be a great way to deal with unhappiness, but it will cost money. your government has to hire all those actors and people. then everyone will be happy. all you do is stick everyone's face in front of a TV screen. they'll be brain-dead monkeys, but they will be happy. :lol:

(and they will all serve me):worship::worship::whipped: :evil:

It could be a small wonder that puts a TV Station in every city and gets 6cpt.
:lol: CTP anyone? :p

One more time: You are not the government in civ. You are the spirit (zeitgeist) of the people. That's why you remain in control even when you order a revolution.

One more time: You are not the government in civ. You are the spirit (zeitgeist) of the people. That's why you remain in control even when you order a revolution.
That is one very interesting way to look at it. I tend to think of you (the player) as the collective mind of an entire civilization.

Zeitgeist is a good word though! :beer:

One more time: You are not the government in civ. You are the spirit (zeitgeist) of the people. That's why you remain in control even when you order a revolution.

if im not the goverment:
why do i have a closet of suits? (communism, facism, democracy,etc)
why can i raise taxes? (10gpt or 50 gpt?)
why do i have envoys offering trade?
why is it that i can choose a wartime or peacetime mobilization?
why is it that i have a face?
why is it that i have a name?
who is the king that the civs love?


I think rhailto is alittle bit delusional of what a goverment really is so i took the liberty to provide him a definition in case he never learnt it in school.

gov·ern·ment ( P ) (gvrn-mnt)
n.
1.The act or process of governing, especially the control and administration of public policy in a political unit.
2.The office, function, or authority of a governing individual or body.
3.Exercise of authority in a political unit; rule.
4.The agency or apparatus through which a governing individual or body functions and exercises authority. 5.A governing body or organization, as:
a.The ruling political party or coalition of political parties in a parliamentary system.
b.The cabinet in a parliamentary system.
c.The persons who make up a governing body.
6.A system or policy by which a political unit is governed.
7.Administration or management of an organization, business, or institution.
Political science.


i have also checked up the word

Zeit·geist (tstgst, zt-)
n.

The taste, outlook, and spirit characteristic of a period or generation.

note* it says generation and period. unfortionatley cIV deals with a whole picture and not a partial.

but why are still in power after a revolution if you are the state? Maybe you are the 'spirit of the state', but even that falls short of why research lies in your hands in modern time.

this is a riduculous topic, i dont know why i even respond but i guess i like to rant...
most revolutions are incited by the player (who acts as the goverment)
he is still in control of the state, no matter what form the state itself holds.

if the revolution isnt incited by the player, causes being war or poor governing, it might look like a revolution, but how could it really be, if in the end the player once again resumes total control over the entire land? as far as im concerned, i consider this a national protest of a need to change ideas and policy.

there are no real revolutions in civ 3, for if there were, independant and rebel states would be formed. the only thing apparent is a transgressional anarchy grace period, which accuratley displays the change or need for change of ideology and goverment structure.

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i have also checked up the word

Zeit·geist (tstgst, zt-)
n.

The taste, outlook, and spirit characteristic of a period or generation.

note* it says generation and period. unfortionatley cIV deals with a whole picture and not a partial.

Brinko: Just to be picky, your quote says period OR generation not period AND generation.


Regardless of the different forms of government. I see myself as THE government of my civ. I first run the nation as a despot. Then I restructure my government to suit my needs. I see the periods of anarchy as a sort of period of time where I purge the old guard who liked the "old me" and replace them with new people who like the "new me"

Back to the topic on hand. While it does not cost the government any money to actually produce the products in Hollywood, it does have some costs associated with it, mainly regulation related (licensing, broadcasting, ect.) But I don't think that is the real point here and I am starting to babble.

Im glad someone sees it the same way i do.

Why not just say this:
You are the god of the civ :worship: :whipped:
You can posses the government at any time.
Does that clear things up?

I think rhailto is alittle bit delusional of what a goverment really is so i took the liberty to provide him a definition in case he never learnt it in school.
[snip dictionary definitions]

This isn't the correct forum for getting all Humpty-Dumpty.

Ahh, young brinko will eventually extinguish the fire in his blood.

This isn't the correct forum for getting all Humpty-Dumpty.
well, atleast your right about something and i hope u read those definitions before snipping them.

You could still be the government as no matter what form of goverment you are in it is always the rich and powerful in control. Those are generally the requirements, even in a "free democracy" the only people who get anywhere substantial in the government are only there because of their enourmous wealth and power. If America decided to have a revolution, sure, Bush may be gone but the person who will succeed him will not simply be a Joe Bloggs, he will be someone who was rich and powerful enough to start a revolution. So perhaps it's best to define yourself in the game as a repersentative of the rich and powerful and therefore the "ruling classes"

i do concur

Revolution can technically be defined as the middle class(in whatever field) rising and removing the current upper class. They of course become the new upper class, but shape the world in their vision. Fundamentally the lower class, who does a lot of the dirty work, never profits.

Boy did this get way off topic.

I think it has been suggested before in various forms, but I think an entertainment Great wonder and/or small wonder wold be good.

well, atleast your right about something and i hope u read those definitions before snipping them.

Look, I really don't need some snot nosed kid commenting on my English. I teach English, and have been doing so for several years. but since you insist on making sarcastic comments, on my English I feel it only fair to point out that there are no less than five mistakes in that sentence of yours above.

Look, I really don't need some snot nosed kid commenting on my English. I teach English, and have been doing so for several years. but since you insist on making sarcastic comments, on my English I feel it only fair to point out that there are no less than five mistakes in that sentence of yours above

first off rhailto, im older then you, it said in your biography, before you SNIPED that too, that u were born in 1990 making u 14-15. second, i think your a bit too young to teach, unless your name is doogie howser... third off, it looks like ur a straight out lyer as is, nothing u say is credible, from the goverment not being the goverment, to being a teacher of english.... if you think that one becomes snotty because he speaks of the truth of how things really are, keep your little grumpy opinions and lies to yourself, because the truth stops for nothing...

Isn't this a bit off topic and can't you two kids play nicely?

*ducks and hides under desk*

first off rhailto, im older then you, it said in your biography, before you SNIPED that too, that u were born in 1990 making u 14-15. second, i think your a bit too young to teach, unless your name is doogie howser... third off, it looks like ur a straight out lyer as is, nothing u say is credible, from the goverment not being the goverment, to being a teacher of english.... if you think that one becomes snotty because he speaks of the truth of how things really are, keep your little grumpy opinions and lies to yourself, because the truth stops for nothing...

You're showing no sign of improvement. 15 spelling / grammar mistakes were in that paragraph. Plus at least one gross factual error, and an excess of faith in the idea that people write the truth about themselves in forum profiles.

One certainly deserves the title of snot-nosed for consistently mis-spelling a person's name, in my humble opinion.

bygones will be bygones