View Full Version : Xen latest Unit idea; Atlantis
Xen Feb 17, 2005, 06:34 PM well, though quirk of the gods, the recetn thread devoted to an Atlanean UU kick m yarse into starting thsi thread, though as both CamJH, and Kinboat coudl tell you, I have been speakign with them about this idea for the past week or so, on a slow basis.
put bluntlly, I have, after a long tiem searchign come across soem very nice unit art for an Atlantean UU; a UU rather sorelly needed by an other graphically fleshed out Atlantean civilization; a "kraken" just dosetn cut it; we need human power to show th emight fo the mithic nation.
Kinboat has aldready agreed to do the needed equipment, bless him :) but needed is still an actual artist to do the job, over diologue with CahJH, he suggested that I make a thread to gather attention for the cause, and thus, here is this thread; I hope it garners soemones attention, and good will into makign this much needed unit :)
here is the concept art itself;
http://img206.exs.cx/img206/3020/singletrooperscreenshot0ei.png
that said, the game this came from has severla other wonderful ideas to flesh out a middle age Atlantean tech tree
utahjazz7 Feb 17, 2005, 06:53 PM I'm sorry, but I'm not too impressed with those units. Count me out.
Xen Feb 17, 2005, 06:59 PM well okay, sorry that you feel that way about them, and tis unfortunate that you do, but I still hold hopes that soem one will do them; that said, I am still curious at what you naxt actual unit will be :)
utahjazz7 Feb 17, 2005, 07:05 PM Next actual unit? I just released two actual units within the last week or so! ;)
Right now, I'm animating a mesoamerican swordsman. So, he'll be the next one that I finish.
Xen Feb 17, 2005, 07:11 PM Next actual unit? I just released two actual units within the last week or so! ;)
Right now, I'm animating a mesoamerican swordsman. So, he'll be the next one that I finish.
well, I knoew of th epetone. but the meso-swordsmen comes as a shock to me (I havent been frequenting the forums nearlly as much much in the past), that said, by :actual: unit, I mean that lets face it; you and th eother unit creators are constantlyl swamped with variosu ideas for soemones units (we all know I have done more then enough of my own share of that!), and you, and other unit creators have to sod through the muck, and decide baout units which are personally interesting, or are much wanted, or needed by the community, so that your time dosent go to waste, and ot make a unit that will be truelly sprreciated by more then a minor group of people (or, alternatelly, a unit that the creator themself would want to see done)
That said, I cant wait for your next unit; I've been a terrible bastard at many points, and even saying soem inane things thatngs abotu peoples units that wasnt warrented at all (akin to bitieng the hand that feeds, so to speak) and I appreciate you at least being willing lookign at the thread,and idea even if you do not make the unit :)
Xen Feb 17, 2005, 07:23 PM heres another idea; a more offensive sort of trooper, thsi atlantead forsakes Trident and sheild for two swords, and a lot of fury ;)
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/4791/atlantsowrds3bb.png
MeteorPunch Feb 17, 2005, 08:16 PM I like both versions. you should make the UU a mermaid or merman who can seduce enemy troops :lol:
Rob (R8XFT) Feb 17, 2005, 10:51 PM It's a cool design for the outfit and I like the guy with the trident. I hope someone decides to do it.
Xen Feb 18, 2005, 04:26 AM in a perfect world, I coudl some one to do them both, an archer, and a cavalryman as well ;)
but I'd be amazinglly happy if someone woudl do either of the above pictures, to be honest- as its just time for us to have a real UU for Atlantis alone.
Rob (R8XFT) Feb 18, 2005, 05:56 AM That said, the game this came from has several other wonderful ideas to flesh out a middle age Atlantean tech tree
Which game is that Xen? I'm intrigued :) . What ideas does it give for techs?
Xen Feb 18, 2005, 08:39 AM well, its age of mythology (the titatns expansion), and while it dose have a HUGE amount of technologies, I meant it mainlly towards atlantean units (assuming that we can get soem one to do any of them)
Colonel Kraken Feb 18, 2005, 08:44 AM I think they're freakin' cool as heck. I wish I had the talent to pursue your dreams, Xen.
Xen Feb 18, 2005, 08:52 AM thank you- th emore support we get for the cause, the better :D
Steel General Feb 18, 2005, 09:03 AM They are very cool and as others have said lets hope one of the unit makers takes an interest. Or, at the very least there's always Kinboats next unit lottery (if he does another one).
Zion_Withrow Feb 18, 2005, 10:13 AM I personly like the spearman, but either or both would be nice to have. Atlantis needs it own unit, since it was, at one time, the height of civilization.
Sword_Of_Geddon Feb 18, 2005, 01:23 PM Yes, Atlantis was one of the great forgotten civilizations of which little is known. Another is the Tenotican(spelling) of Mesoamerica.
That Trident Welding guy looks fascinating and if it was made I'd be pleased to use it in Legends in Myths...once I can get a true team of people toghether to work on it.
Raw is War? Feb 19, 2005, 05:50 AM I think it would be great to have a better unique unit aswell, and the guy with the trident would look great if made. Perhaps it's just me, but i think it would be better if that guy rather than the dual-wielding sword guy was to be made.....if anything does get made. Hmm.. what shord is that he's dual-wielding i wonder... :hmm:
Xen Feb 19, 2005, 07:38 AM @Raw is war;
well, in aperfect world, the Tridetn weilder (well have to com eup with a better name then the game he comes froms gaves to his type, that name being "destroyer") would be the basis of the atlantean army in the middle ages (the units have sort of a middle age feel to them, at least in my mind) you know; perhaps a juggernaut of a unit at 3/3, and an extra hp point (the extra hp isint needed, but it would help sort of give the feel of atlantis being a hugelly powerful empire)the dual swordsmen coudl either be a long bow replacment- alognm the lines of a viking berserk, 5/2, an extra hp point, and the amphibious ability, and then thier are several very cool units i havent even shown; some awesoem loking cavalry, and other infantry replacements that coudl really help flesh out an Atlantean army
Xen Feb 19, 2005, 07:56 AM as a side note; this woudl make an intenselly awesoem swordsman replacement for the Atlanteans
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1928/dervish1stincarnation4oa.png
Xen Feb 20, 2005, 05:20 PM okay, I've been talkign to kinboat some, and he has agreed to consider doing a future Atlantean project (eg, perhaps something as extensive as the grand egyptian pack he released) and at the moment, I am looking for ideas for any other atlantean units; while I have the majority of concpets picked out, I suppose it woudlnt hurt for other people to PM with any pictures they themselves have for possible ideas, and what not.
Sword_Of_Geddon Feb 20, 2005, 07:21 PM Kinboat and Xen have joined forces....the world as we know it is over... :lol:
Xen Feb 20, 2005, 07:29 PM *ahem* many a fine unit upon these forums has been because of Kinboat taking a likeing to one of my many and varied ideas :p (it just happens that the vast majority of the ideas submitted dont lead to anything ;))
Sword_Of_Geddon Feb 20, 2005, 07:43 PM Well, theres still that Roman Grenadier, I really would like to finish the Roman Fictional Unit Line off before we start an entire new concept... :cry:
North King Feb 20, 2005, 07:49 PM Shouldn't you acquire an Atlantean Sea Unit?
Xen Feb 20, 2005, 09:06 PM Shouldn't you acquire an Atlantean Sea Unit?
sea power sucks in civ. sad but true; in every case, what ever nation has a naval UU in the game, thier is an alternative idea for a land UU that was more important in the nations history; for Byzantium tis the cataphract; for britian the New Model Army Red Coat, for Portugal (and spain, but since spain got a conquistaodr) the Tercio, and so on.
for Atlantis, the best concept is a unique style of units; strong, advanced, and expensive, perhaps many with the marine ability as well.
Xen Feb 20, 2005, 09:08 PM Well, theres still that Roman Grenadier, I really would like to finish the Roman Fictional Unit Line off before we start an entire new concept... :cry:
I've givin up on the Roman uni tline, sadlly enough; I've been campaigning for a Roman "napoleonic" longer then a moder legionary; and we all know which has coem first- I hoestlly doubt that unless a great deal of support was thrown together for it, that such a unit woudl be made.
Olaf_The_Great Feb 20, 2005, 09:51 PM How about a Whole Atlean/greek/Greek MOD ...but withou the norse I mean Vikings and Ancient people??? It would be a good Idea...a Age Of Mythology Mod
Make A Zeus Leaderhead A Poseiden Leader head and a RA leaderhead No norse though\
Foucesed from Greece to Egypt
Olaf_The_Great Feb 20, 2005, 09:52 PM With Atlantis a 3 piece Island south of Crete(Very big map)
Sword_Of_Geddon Feb 20, 2005, 09:59 PM I've givin up on the Roman uni tline, sadlly enough; I've been campaigning for a Roman "napoleonic" longer then a moder legionary; and we all know which has coem first- I hoestlly doubt that unless a great deal of support was thrown together for it, that such a unit woudl be made.
Don't give up....I'm sure Smoke or Kinboat could make a decent Roman Grenadier...with enough persausion.
How did you envision this unit?
Olaf_The_Great Feb 20, 2005, 10:17 PM Aaglo made a Minotaur like Unit for the Greeks
and Kinboat a neat Egyptian Ustati or something
Infact Like in AOM we'll make a Wonder Called Temple to Zeus or Temple To Isis or something to make these Units every 3 turns
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Heres Units I found for a AOM Mode
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=111798 Centaur(Temple to Artemis)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=111594 Minotaur(Shrine to Ares)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=110086 Pharohs Servants(Pyramid)
And My Idea for Implementing Heros is simply Adding them in to the Appropiet Civs
Heros (note heros Should have more hitpoints (4 more would do) and 2 points stronger then the non Religous UU For the Civ
Pharoah-NOT FOUND
Achillies-http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93682
Arkantos-Not found(should be a Bronze Armour Spear hero for the Atlanteans
Jason-NOT FOUND-Swordsman with broze armour and a Large Shielf(like a hoplite)
Hercules-NOTFOUND-Chest showing Warrior with A Bear skin on the head with a sword and A Shield with CLub on it
More Ideas later
Xen Feb 21, 2005, 07:44 AM if you wish to persue an age of mythology mod, go for it; but I have no interest in doing so- my efforts are pointed to getting a well rounded, and plausible Atlantean civilization, your idea is interestring, but I dont veiw it as being all that conductive to getting an Atlantean civlization done, rather then disracticnt from it, and creating units that have fewer roles for game play then more generioc units for an Atlantean civlization stand-alone woud.l provide.
madmapper Feb 21, 2005, 08:14 AM Rather than a Spearman, you could have someone with a Triton of sorts?
Xen Feb 21, 2005, 08:41 AM yes, that is the basic plan (take a look at the first picture in the thread)
odintheking Feb 21, 2005, 06:34 PM I've wanted that fanatic for EVER! Someone, please take up the task!
Olaf_The_Great Feb 21, 2005, 09:28 PM Xen-yes do the UNITs first i forgot that
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