Well, the nation name thread is up. So we might as well get a thread like this going also.

I'm sure there are some graphical talented people inside of the demogame, make a flag and post it here.

I think this should especially should wait until the civ is picked. That way, we can go with a theme.

I think this should especially should wait until the civ is picked. That way, we can go with a theme.

Well, we already have a general idea as to what Civ were going to chose.

I think the flag should incorporate the colors (Default + Alternate) of whatever civ we use, so I think it'd be best to wait.

well right now it looks like we are going to be England and they dont have an alternate color( i think they only have orange.) so perhaps we should have orange with a flower or a star or a sword

How about representing the three main "pillars" of victory types: Culture, Diplomacy, and Military with a Culture Note, Diplo Screen Scroll, and a Sword? The three of these could appear on a banner-shaped, dark-orange area in the center of a lighter orange flag.

(I'll throw together something in paint just to represent the design.)

I would prefer something close to Union Jack as a flag, to be in tradition with the real flag. However, we should somehow incorporate six stripes of some sort for DG6.
What about an inverted Union Jack, replacing red with blue and so on ?

Underneath we can have the national proverb of sorts.

How about the White Ensign? We can use orange instead of white for the main color and replace the red Cross of St. George with white? I'd do it myself, but I don't have Photoshop.

http://tmg110.tripod.com/gb-nvens.gif

Honestly, we can do without Orange.
I liked Japanaticas flag for being close to the original.

Inverted the colors of the original English flag. The big yellow blob is supposed to be the sun, and a crown in the middle of the sun, so the sun never sets on the British Crown. Blue blob in the NW of the sun is a mistake on my part, undo couldn't remove it.

How about representing the three main "pillars" of victory types: Culture, Diplomacy, and Military with a Culture Note, Diplo Screen Scroll, and a Sword? The three of these could appear on a banner-shaped, dark-orange area in the center of a lighter orange flag.

(I'll throw together something in paint just to represent the design.)

I think you need to make that sword look like a sword. Right now, it looks like an upside down cross (which might offend some people).

I like YNCS's idea. Why dump the Union Jack?

Maybe a Orange Union Jack. With a light orange background and darker stripes

I like the idea of using YNCS's flag as a base. But I feel like we should have some sort of difference in the standard flag. After all, we're the Demogame, not England. Perhaps we could put a big "DG" in one of the empty corners of the flag.

Here are our past flags for reference:

Demogame 1
(seal and flag)
http://demogame.civfanatics.net/oldsite/civ3/gfx/clip_image001.gif
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/dg1flag.jpg

Demogame 2

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/dg2flag.gif

Demogame 3

Collection of Flags (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=51659&page=2) (I don't think we ever had an official flag in this one. It might've been one of the flags with the wolf though.)

Demogame 4

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/fanatica_fluttering2.gif

Demogame 5
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/DG5_RM_warflag.jpg

Here's a few templates to start off with:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/ct_dg6_flag1.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/ct_dg6_flag2.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/ct_dg6_flag3.gif

Remember that you can put a national seal or something on it. (Don't put UUs, since we don't have those yet from the start). CFC Red and orange aren't exactly the best of combinations though...

Here's a suggestion -- Let's wait on the flag until we see what our start is like. We could find some inspiration there.

I just played with my White Ensign idea with MS Paint, making the Orange Ensign. Unfortunately, Uploads9 doesn't appear to recognize .bmp files.

Or am I just a noob with Uploads9?

I just played with my White Ensign idea with MS Paint, making the Orange Ensign. Unfortunately, Uploads9 doesn't appear to recognize .bmp files.

Or am I just a noob with Uploads9?

Yes you are. ;) It needs to be a gif, or jpg file.

EDIT: Here's 2 more.



http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/ct_dg6_flag4_emblem.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/ct_dg6_flag5_emblem.gif

The harp is Irish, not English.

My humble contribution with the union jack/six stripe idea.

I'd say Regentman's is the best flag so far. Though, to be honest, how important is our nation's flag exactly? I didn't even know DG5 had a flag until I saw it on this thread. What say we keep our focus on more pressing matters.

I think Regentman's flag could use some graphic in the middle of the top 3 stripes (covering the middle of all 3 stripes).

I think we should have a clean official flag and then a heraldic flag. I suggest adding the NATO navigational star in the center to show our Naval Power.

I also agree that Regent Mans is by far the best choice for a flag.

I'm no great shakes with this arty stuff, nevertheless here is my humble contribution. I think the winning design should be based on the English, rather than the British, flag.

I'll post a better flag later in the week, paint is just not good for making flags.

paint is just not good for making flags.

seconded :)

I'm no great shakes with this arty stuff, nevertheless here is my humble contribution. I think the winning design should be based on the English, rather than the British, flag.
This flag is closer to the Scottish flag, St. Andrew's Cross:

http://www.anyflag.com/history/standrew.gif

or the Irish flag, St. Patrick's Cross:

http://flagspot.net/images/i/ie-stpat.gif

than the English flag, St. George's Cross:

http://tmg110.tripod.com/gb-adm.gif

I know, but I fancied diagonal stripes because that means the flag can be flown upside down as a sign of distress.

http://www.solarnavigator.net/embassies/union_jack.htm

Near the bottom, one of my favourite legends.

Perhaps another consideration:

Ok, I shouldn't be spending time on this, but everyone needs a few minutes break right? So I've quickly knocked together this:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_Flag_Fur.jpg

It's the flag of St George (the English Flag) in Civ Fanatics red with six stripes for DG6 in the Civ colour of Orange. I've also offset them (not very well) in the manner of the Union Flag just in case anyone does get into distress and wants to fly it upside down.

Edit: thank you YNCS for pointing out what was the English flag!

Hmmm... that one's pretty nice.

I like that one, Furiey. I like it a lot.

I like it too. That's nice.

I like Furieys proposal. Tentatively, a Navigational NATO Star in the upper left would be nice.

I lend support Furiey's, nice looking flag there.

I think our best bet would be to meld Furiey's flag with the six stripes Regentman suggested (I mean his first suggestion, I think having the flag in the corner looks better than having it take up one whole side). I'm pretty much photoshop illiterate, but I'm sure you could imagine what it would look like. In my eyes, that would be the best choice for our flag.

I second Ash here

Fantastic Fanatanian Flag, Furiey.

I think this is quite good as is; no modifications needed.

Yeah, I just made the second flag out of curiousity of what it would look like.

Just wait for me till I find time and have my PC fixxed to create something. I'm still proud of the Japanatica flag; Give me some time.

What about this one ?

6 lines indicating DG6; the Old Union jack (England and Scotland) and England's rose.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/gewoon.jpg

That's another very good flag Rik. I have to say I prefer Furiey's though.

What in particular in Furiey's flag is better ?
And could that be incorporated into mine ?

It's a personal preference. I like its symmetry and simplicity, the lack of emblems appeals to me.

That said, I like the way you put the rose in one canton. It looks good.

I got a request to remove the cross-overs.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/midden.jpg

EDIT: too much detail was lost due to resizing

And I got a request to put in our traits; the compass for seafaring; the rose for commerical.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nato_midden_copy.jpg

Can we put the compas in the center of the cross and add the Union Jack back in?

SaaM

yes we can, but I can not do that now; I'm off to bed. And I have little time tomorrow.

Just as an aside, the compass symbol that Rick Meleet is using is a "compass rose."

And I got a request to put in our traits; the compass for seafaring; the rose for commerical.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nato_midden_copy.jpg

I like this one, just with two changes:

1) The white background looks... plain. It's lacking real color. Well, it's actually lacking a color scheme. I like the way the compass looks. Any possibility we can make the whole flag shades of blue and grey?

2) Can you also put the compass in the middle, but add smaller versions of the rose to each cornor of the flag?

I like this one, just with two changes:

1) The white background looks... plain. It's lacking real color. Well, it's actually lacking a color scheme. I like the way the compass looks. Any possibility we can make the whole flag shades of blue and grey?

2) Can you also put the compass in the middle, but add smaller versions of the rose to each cornor of the flag?
1. Blue and grey are rather drab colors. White has the advantage that almost every other color, except light colors like silver or violet, shows up well against it. Keep the background white.

2. Let's not make the flag too busy. One rose, one compass rose, fine. Roses all over the place is too much of a good thing. Keep the flag relatively simple.

BTW, I still prefer Furiey's flag.

I'm not too fond of emblems in flags, such as a compass or rose. But you designed some nice flags Rik.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_Flag_Fur.jpg
I like this design more than the standard Union Jack. We really don't need the UJ, we are playing England after all, not the whole UK. I would rather have the English cross (which Furiey has). Perhaps we could add a rose into one of the corners. That, in my mind, is all we really need for a flag.


p.s.- I didn't realize you were the one who did the Japanatica flag, Rik. That's definately my favorite of the DG flags. Nice work.

Can we put the compas in the center of the cross and add the Union Jack back in?

SaaMdone, but I don't like it.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nato_in_the_middle_-_medium_copy.jpg

Instead of forcing poor Rik to design multiple versions of his flag, can we decide on what version we actually want? I prefer the one below:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/midden.jpg
It's simple, stylish, and gets the point across. I'd say it's all we need.

It should be interesting to see the flag evolute with time. :eek:

exemple : we start with a simple template and
change it after great events of our civ like territory conquest , major wonders or colonisation actions ect :cool:


Wath do you think about it? :king:

actually, I do agree

take riks base and work on it

It should be interesting to see the flag evolute with time. :eek:

exemple : we start with a simple template and
change it after great events of our civ like territory conquest , major wonders or colonisation actions ect :cool:


Wath do you think about it? :king:You mean that we start with this flag:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/midden_alleen_kruis.jpg

And after the first important step in the game we for instance evolve to this flag:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Midden_alleen_roos_copy.jpg

And the 3rd flag become this:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/midden.jpg

That is not so hard to do.

We could add a new theme every Term, so by the beginning og Term 2, we add a new feature relevant to the history of Term One.

We could add a new theme every Term, so by the beginning og Term 2, we add a new feature relevant to the history of Term One.

Yes exaclty , like the english done by the past. With the annexasion of ireland , they put the red x on the english red cross and made the unionjack.

we dont need to design the flag for now we just need a basic template. The actions of our civilisation will draw the flag for us throught time .

As i said , after all great events , just open a thread with 'Do we need to update our flag' ;)

The rule should be, we nominate flag amendments for the elections of Term Two, Term Three, Term Four, Term Five and Term Six, which makes room for five amendments.

To think of it, our nation flag should progress kinda like in the game where the people love us so much that they want to improve our palace. We should have the flag progress as if it was our palace.

We should still link it to term elections, so we can reduce the bureaucracy.

Plus, ten or fifteen flag amendments is not what I want to go through!

I like Rik's flag with the navigational symbol and the rose and without the Union Jack bit (this one (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2590574&postcount=50)). Very tidy and nice looking. With this flag, we may be able to add two more icons into the remaining corners of the flag in the future if we feel like it (e.g. ships, wonders, etc).

we may be able to add two more icons into the remaining corners of the flag in the future if we feel like it (e.g. ships, wonders, etc).
Why not the kitchen sink?

I like simple flags. I don't want a flag with every bell and whistle that strikes anyone's fancy stuck here, there and everywhere. I'm waiting for someone to suggest that the flagstaff top be a music box playing "Rule Britannia" (http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/sounds/rulebritannia2.mid).

As Culture Consul I urge all citizens to back the fine flag of Rik Meleet, the Flag of England with the English Rose and the Compass Rose showing our Civ features, and leave out the Union Jack in respect of the poor Irish. We can always add in Union Jack if we conquer the Celts.

Well, not to be a know-it-all, but the Union Jack came from the union between England and Scotland, not Ireland. I see no problem with including it in our flag, since the Scots aren't represented in Civ3. Personally, I like the flag with the UJ in one corner and the rose in the other.

Ashburnham

I support that flag too, we should soon poll these.

I like the one with the compass and rose. We should leave off the Union Jack and use one of the corners to add slashes in the in-game colors of the former civs of our colony provinces. One other small request, would it be possible to have the 6 stripes representing DG6 be in England's in-game color, which is orange this game?

I think we should try the flag of England, and we add the Compass Rose and the Trade Rose in the upper left, and nothing else for Term One

Then I suggest we add something from Term One, then Term Two, then Term Three, then Term IV, then Term V and then Term VI and vote for every new addition during election time.

I like the one with the compass and rose. We should leave off the Union Jack and use one of the corners to add slashes in the in-game colors of the former civs of our colony provinces. One other small request, would it be possible to have the 6 stripes representing DG6 be in England's in-game color, which is orange this game?So you want to change the color of the 6 lines to the color we are in the game and in the top left corner the compass and in the bottom right corner the rose ?

that is no problem, I can do that tonight easily.

Why not the kitchen sink?

I like simple flags. I don't want a flag with every bell and whistle that strikes anyone's fancy stuck here, there and everywhere. I'm waiting for someone to suggest that the flagstaff top be a music box playing "Rule Britannia" (http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/sounds/rulebritannia2.mid).

Curious, but I wasn't implying that we have to turn the flag into a Christmas tree. I was more referring to the concept of remembering our greatest historical moment in the game by adding a symbol to the flag. I do not want to add a logo every week.

One addition per term would make perfect sense.

So you want to change the color of the 6 lines to the color we are in the game and in the top left corner the compass and in the bottom right corner the rose ?

that is no problem, I can do that tonight easily.

here it is (10 minutes work ;) )

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Midden_oranje_copy.jpg

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Midden_alleen_roos_en_nato_oranje_copy.jpg

One addition per term would make perfect sense.
No additions per term would make even more sense.

You don't want a national flag, you want a national quilt.

Not a quilt, possibly a new navigational star for each new province. It would just add to the flavor of our elections to vote on a revised flag.

A star for every city/province would be nice. Kind of like the US flag.

Maybe a navigational star a city and a stripe a province could make it.

Okay, I was playing around with Rik's flag and I made a chrome-like flag based on his:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/chromeflag.jpg
IMO it looks better w/out the icons if it's chrome-i-tized.

Here is an animated transition between flat and metallic flag.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/animatedflag.gif

Oooooh! The animated flag is fun for the eyes!

MSTK

Good to have this on the side of Fanatannian armored vehicles rolling over the burning corpses of beaten defenders in besieged and crushed resistance pockets in rebellious cities falling victim to our mercilessly effective and beautifully well organized warmachine.

That's nothing...wait until we get BronzeWorking :)

I knew the whistle and bell boys would arrive to muck up the flag. Thanks, MSTK, for confirming my fears.

I knew the whistle and bell boys would arrive to muck up the flag. Thanks, MSTK, for confirming my fears.DOn't worry YNCS, no flag or evolving flag will be official until we have voted on it. You'll get plenty of opportunity to speak out your objections and preferences.
Since this is a democracy anyone is free to express themselves, also creatively. Let's encourage citizens to make more designs; in the end we will get a flag we all like.

And on a personal note: What flag do you like best and what can be done to it (if anything) to make it better still ?

Rik,

I prefer Furiey's flag, the English-Scottish (pre-1701) Union Jack in orange. I also like your first flag, with the Union Jack in the canton. I'll accept your present flag, with the compass rose and rose in the 1st and 4th quarters. I just don't want a flag that's cluttered up with this, that and t'other stuck here, there and everywhere.

I like my first flag and Furiey's flag.

Here is a flag I have called the

Fanatannian Six Naval Stars and Six Cross

Here is a flag I have called the

Fanatannian Six Naval Stars and Six Cross
I like that one :)

But take out the circles in the compasses.

Provo's flag I could live with, except the cross should be orange rather than red.

Rik

It seems we found a good flag option here, could you please make my proposal with England Color stripes and remove the Navigational Star Circles? :)

Seems we found an interesting option here.

ok, here it is:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Midden_oranje_6_compasses_copy.jpg

Hmm, I do like the NATO Compass rose :)

Here follow the DGVI EAST ROYAL IMPERIAL COMPANY FLAG, which could also be one of the flags for Fanatannia.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/VI_Logo.JPG

Here follow the DGVI EAST ROYAL IMPERIAL COMPANY FLAG, which could also be one of the flags for Fanatannia.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/VI_Logo.JPG

Take off the big white box inside the US flag :crazyeye:

Actually, if someone could add something inside the Shield with the Navigational Star and or the 6 Stripes of Fanatannia.

This is actually the national flag of Virgin Islands, by chance the Roman Numeral VI, for DGVI. Quite a coincidence that can be used.

Is it possible the Eagles head can face the arrows during times of war like the American flag after congress has declared war? just a thought

Here follow the DGVI EAST ROYAL IMPERIAL COMPANY FLAG, which could also be one of the flags for Fanatannia. [Flag omitted]
That is the U.S. Virgin Islands Flag with the NATO Compass Rose stuck on the shield. Surely you can do better than that.

YNCS

Yeah, I planned on tweaking it, but fun how the Virgin Islands falg by coincidence matched our Roman Numerals VI. We would still have to replace the heraldic shield within the Eagle with the polled Fanatannian flag crest. I was just pointing out the vision here.

I like the flags, i just wish i was good with that animation and stuff so i could make one...

also instead of putting only english features into the flag, why not add some anglo-saxon or celto-saxon features into the to make it look more cultured and old instead of people on their comp putting stuff onto a british background

also instead of putting only english features into the flag, why not add some anglo-saxon or celto-saxon features into the to make it look more cultured and old instead of people on their comp putting stuff onto a british background
So you want people sitting on their computer putting stuff on an Anglo-Saxon/Celto-Saxon background instead?

also instead of putting only english features into the flag, why not add some anglo-saxon or celto-saxon features into the to make it look more cultured and old instead of people on their comp putting stuff onto a british backgroundI could see putting Celtic symbols on the flag if we were the Celts. But we're not. :rolleyes:

I would like to see a simple flag incorporating a white and a red rose. Alternatively, a single red and white rampant lion on a blue background.

A flag with the U.Jack in the corner would do fine for me.

Maybe something like the Australian flag, but with a Civ feature instead of stars.

PS.: Maybe we could have different flags for different eras? Like in real life, you know... One flag with tribal motives for Ancient, one with religious for Medieval, one with a boat for Industrial-Modern, etc.

So you want people sitting on their computer putting stuff on an Anglo-Saxon/Celto-Saxon background instead?

No people should incorperate diverent aspects of the country and its roots. Not just its modern day appeance.

I would like to see a simple flag incorporating a white and a red rose. Alternatively, a single red and white rampant lion on a blue background.If you describe the rose flag a bit more precise (perhaps even a small sketch) I can try to make such a flag.
The lion flag: I would need a picture of the desired lion and a description of the colouring or preferably samples of the desired colors red white (ok that is easy ;) ) and blue. Personally I don't think I'd want a lion flag.

A Lion Rampant is shown here.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6mb03.gif

The Lancastrian (Red) Rose is shown here.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6mb04.jpg

The Yorkist rose is white, but very similar design. The war of the roses was ended with defeat of the Yorkists, the house of Tudor was victorious and crowned Henry VI I think, which is why the "English" rose is always depicted as Red most probably. School was a long time ago for me.

These pictures were just grabbed off the net very quickly. It's not worth expending more effort unless other people are interested in a flag like this.

The Lion Rampant is a Scottish rather than an English national symbol.

http://darachweb.com/flags/flagimages/zf001.gif

The Plantagenets used Leopards Passant Guardant in their coat of arms.

http://home.earthlink.net/~plantagenet60/shield2.jpg

Unless someone has objections, I'm going to put the various flag recommendations up for polling.

I completely missed Mad-Bax's pictures. However, I have no time to put them in a flag. Sorry.

I already put up a poll for those that had some spoken support.