This is a quicky before I head to a meeting. We have Bonus food tiles near the Indian border. How agressively should we settle this border. The discussions in this Strategic thread will need to be taking into acount by the Director of Expansion in prioritizing settlement locations. Also please discuss the infrastructure implications of your choices.

MOTH's opionion as a citizen:
We need to secure both cattle as soon as possible. It looks like there is a coastal hill next to the NW cattle. My preference would be to first secure the nearby cattle and follow that by settling on the coastal hill. The principal reasons for this are due to the Infrastructure requirements as it would take too many worker turns to get to the coastal hill to improve the territories.
Side note: the coastal hill will also help to pass irrigation to the cow quicker than if we had to bring it from the Indian river.

Given the good land and forest between us and the dreaded Ghandi, I would say I agree with you Moth. In general we will need to prioritize securing as much of that wooded area as we can before Ghandi gets to it.

Settle right next to their lands to block them in. Expand outward in.

I agree, settle in the direction of the Indian lands, especially by the cattle, and then work our way north.

I'd prefer to see the first city settled closer to home, in a good spot for production. The next few cities should be near the Indian border to lock them in and create a good space for us.

-- Ravensfire

If I might make a request, Consul. Could you post screenshots whenever discussion settler placement, so that those of us without C3C can still participate in a meaningful way? As it stands now, I have no idea where the Indian border is in relation to our capital.

Get that cow before the Indians do. Then get the other cow.

If I might make a request, Consul. Could you post screenshots whenever discussion settler placement, so that those of us without C3C can still participate in a meaningful way? As it stands now, I have no idea where the Indian border is in relation to our capital.

Sorry about that. Here is the screen shot from the end of the chat. I also do not own C3C so I must rely on the screen shots provided by others and the info available via CrpSuite.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/DG6_BC3200_India.jpg

Get that cow before the Indians do. Then get the other cow.

Indians have no use for cows, they're mostly vegetarians!

In this stage of the game, they don't believe in Hindu yet. They don't even have polythesim either. So they eat cows til they realize they are committing canniablism.

Settle right next to their lands to block them in. Expand outward in.

If you mean next to their border, then I have a few problems with that.

This is emperor, meaning they build temples much quicker than we do. They'll build culture quicker, thus increasing the risk of a culture flip. Plus, they build settlers quicker anyway. Let's try to claim atleast the cities on the mountain range, and one beyond that.

Cows are key, so securing them should be a priority. However, I'd stay several tiles away from India's borders. Settling too near a rival civ can cause them to become irritated at us. (I don't mind irritating my opponents, but not so early in the game.)

If we settle on the hill SE of the cow nearest the Indians, we're far enough away that culture flips shouldn't be a problem for a good while.

If you mean next to their border, then I have a few problems with that.

This is emperor, meaning they build temples much quicker than we do. They'll build culture quicker, thus increasing the risk of a culture flip. Plus, they build settlers quicker anyway. Let's try to claim atleast the cities on the mountain range, and one beyond that.
Good point, we should try to get cows, but also AVOID building cities too close to India. They are religious (right?), and this is emperor (=very cheap temples) so we could lose border cities in culture flips.

I have written to the Consul for the armed forces (CivGeneral) - Not sure of his official title. I have asked him to consider declaration of war with India before the start of the next turn.

This is how aggressively I believe we should expand in Indias direction.

You can find the post in the applicable government thread.

I have written to the Consul for the armed forces (CivGeneral) - Not sure of his official title. I have asked him to consider declaration of war with India before the start of the next turn.

This is how aggressively I believe we should expand in Indias direction.

You can find the post in the applicable government thread.
According to this, it would be an illegal war, and as a result, there will some CC's that would come as a result if the Consul was to consider your advice and acts upon it.

According to this, it would be an illegal war, and as a result, there will some CC's that would come as a result if the Consul was to consider your advice and acts upon it.

Not to worry, the resulting discussion was conducted correctly and the poll shows no war anyway. ;)

Plus is should be the External Consul declaring war, not the Commander of Armed Forces.
External Consul = Long term military and foreign affairs planner
Commander of Armed Forces = Short term military and military micromanagement