mad-bax
Nobody
Icmancin
classical_hero

I voted for Mad-bax since I certanly know that he can push forward the materials that I need (If I am elected) for the Dutch War in the future.

mad-bax, in his rather short time as a citizen has shown he is a very intelligent man with great expections for Fannatania.

He's got my vote.

Mad Bax has shown himself to be extremely intelligent and capable, He will make an outstanding consul, I urge all citizens to vote Mad Bax

I nominated Baxiboy, say no more.

Baxiboy

batiboy botiboy....

still a while to go so VOTE NOBODY!

I hope Nobody get some votes too, he has been along for some while.

I voted for Mad-bax since I certanly know that he can push forward the materials that I need (If I am elected) for the Dutch War in the future.
If i remember correctly that he wants to go for a war with India first. That I something that I would prefer not to do. I believe that the greatest threat to our great nation is Holland. They are expanding extremely quickly so we need to act quickly if we are to get rid our most greatest.

I also believe that we should not be attacking a potential ally in India because they will be what we need. We need some nation to have back if we ever get to a Industrial or Modern war. We need an ally and I think that having India as a potential ally, rather than a potential foe, is what we need.

A Dutch war is what I want, so I voted for classical_hero.

Wow I’m losing, I better step up a gear,

Everyone is voting for mad-bax to attack India, and classical hero for war against Dutch. all I said is that the decision should be made by official polls. Not by "manifestos" or "Doctrines". And as I have already stayed I will not plan the battles I will leave that up to the Military director, because I don't think the person who declares war should choose how we fight them. that’s a good 70% of the game.

So if elected expect me to play it along the lines of maximising trade and building friendly relations. Wars will be a side note which I will leave the fighting of up to the military as its their job.

Classical hero I like and hope that if I don't get elected he will. As far as old man match box goes I think he will win us wars but once he has left office the whole world will be annoyed at us and we will be surrounded by angry weak neighbours who we will always be watching our backs against.

It might seem as though I have not explained my exact goals as well as my competitors but I care more about setting up a good office that provides all our citizens with the information they need to make informed decisions and for the people to set foreign policy rather than the elected officials.

So heres pros and cons of electing nobody:

Pros: I will listen to the people, I will also post instructions on time and have a up to date office, I will be neutral and fair in my polling but I will state what I prefer.

Cons: I m crap at spelling, I don’t use as much big words as some people. But this has never kept me back in the real world, I passed Bursary English and History with high grades and these are both largely writing subjects. Some times I do stupid stuff in the name of fun. But I will try to cut this down.

Vote Nobody, it’s a vote for democracy, and mafia style government threads.

This was from the most recent TC.
Just a sidenote - The Dutch demanded Writing from us. As we had no units in our cities, we were forced to give in.
This is another reason why we must eliminate the threat of the Dutch. They are aggressive towards us and we must eliminate that threat.

i just read that too, the dutch do now appear to bigger threat. thats why i prefer democracy to doctirnocracy (madeupword) because situations change

Oh my I'm getting swamped.

And i didn't think I had any chance anyway...
Is it too late for a slogan?


A vote for icmancin is a vote for a causious approach to life? Anyone?

Oh my I'm getting swamped.

And i didn't think I had any chance anyway...
Is it too late for a slogan?


A vote for icmancin is a vote for a causious approach to life? Anyone?
We don't need caution, we need action. And action against the Dutch is most called for.

Questions

1. Do you see the need of splitting External Consul into Foreign Affairs/Trade and that of military, due to the workload of long term planning, or do you prefer centralized control?
2. Do you consider an Alliance with India against the expanding and demanding Dutch?
3. Would you need more naval movement starting at the end of the continent ?

1. I think that the consular positions carry different burdens at different points in the game. If the number of consular positions was reduced from (I think ) 6 to 4 then it would improve gameplay and make competition for positions more intense and interesting. However I can only play with the han I'm dealt. If elected I will fulfil all the duties of the office whatever they may be.

2. I would not favour such an alliance. This implies going to war with the dutch first and is unnacceptable to me. It is a tactically naive move. To attack the Dutch first means attacking their weak outer cities first. We will lose units. Towns we capture will autoraze because they are either at size 1 or will have just whipped a spear and shrunk to size one. This activity will delay the attack on the productive cities, which in all this time will be spittiong out units at a rate we cannot match. We will be losing units and units will be losing HP in this time. Our first attack against the Dutch must be against their productive cities, and the only way to do this is through the Indians. India is trapped in the corner and is already backward. He does not make a good trading partner anyway. Our trading partner should be the Chinese who will also provide a buffer between us and the Persians, Mayans and Hittites for example. There is no way that fighting the Dutch first can be a good idea. There is not one redeeming argument for it.

3. Extra naval movement is a good thing. 4 move galleys would help in wars against the Chinese and also in transporting settlers to the NE. However a war against the Chinese is unlikely for a while. I for one do not want to fight Riders with Knights during a Chinese GA particularly. Expanding past the Chinese will be helped by increased naval movement, but this will be better provided by Magellans, once we have Smiths and are in our GA with Cavalry and Men O war. I'm looking forward to this part of the game. It should be a hoot.

Questions

1. Do you see the need of splitting External Consul into Foreign Affairs/Trade and that of military, due to the workload of long term planning, or do you prefer centralized control?
Considering that the two areas of trade and foriegn policy are so close together, it seems that we should have them together as one consul so that one person can wory about dealing with other nations. That would mean that there would less conflict between the two areas if we were to split up this portfolio.
2. Do you consider an Alliance with India against the expanding and demanding Dutch?
That has been my running platform so ofcourse we should be warring against the Dutch and haveing an ally in India.
3. Would you need more naval movement starting at the end of the continent ?
I am in agreement with mad-bax on this one. We should not be waisting time ATM with wonders because of the impending war, so that means that we should not worry about the Great Lighthouse. We should focus our energies on getting the war started with the Dutch before any thought about any extra movement on the water. It seem quite ironic that we have an excellent Civ for continents or Archipeligo maps, but we are stuck on a pangea map. This creates a greater challenge for us to war in an environment that we are not made for.

1. Do you see the need of splitting External Consul into Foreign Affairs/Trade and that of military, due to the workload of long term planning, or do you prefer centralized control?

Yes, i think that Military and Foreign Affairs should be seperate. its to much work and to much of the game. The two positsions are different and need different approachs. The military should plan for any war, and be non politcal. Just carrying out the orders of the People and Foreign Affairs ministy. FA and Trade are similar and i can see why they are together, although ideally i would prefer them to be seperate, i don't mind the way it is now. If elected i will leave most of the military up to the director.

2. Do you consider an Alliance with India against the expanding and demanding Dutch?

Yes indeed, although my first stance was not to pick a side to attack after looking at the save, i now belive that the dutch are a much bigger threat, of course i will poll everything. This implies going to war with the dutch first and is unnacceptable to me. It is a tactically naive move Some times national pride is more important, we don't allways need fast easy victory. The dutch recently demand of us, does this mean nothing?


3. Would you need more naval movement starting at the end of the continent ?

After we gain a initial posistion navy will become more important, personally i like the idea of a large empire of small colonys overseas. (each with a different resource) and to protect this we would need a large navy. It really depends on the map.

I voted for Mad-bax since I certanly know that he can push forward the materials that I need (If I am elected) for the Dutch War in the future.

Maybe somepeople voted the wrong way

implies going to war with the dutch first and is unnacceptable to me........There is no way that fighting the Dutch first can be a good idea. There is not one redeeming argument for it.

I beleve I did and I regret voting for the wrong guy, I should have voted for...

CivGeneral rases a MAJ. Kusanagi picture over his mouth

...Nobody.

Now I am starting to realize that Mad-Bax wants to combine the Military Office with the FAs Office, which is very innapropreate for me and should be kept separate.

Certanly, I have faith in the Will of the People when he posts a poll to ask us which nation we should declare war against.

You can ask a mod to change your vote CG. You can vote for Don Nobody like I did. :)

You can ask a mod to change your vote CG. You can vote for Don Nobody like I did. :)
Is that legal?

once the elections over i will claim that the votes were inconclusive

once the elections over i will claim that the votes were inconclusive

Planning to create a recount? ;)

Here is a little toon to display the feelings that we should have voted for Nobody for the Dutch war ;).

Congratulations mad-bax, the people have spoken you got more than half the votes even if civ general changed his vote. Thanks everyone who voted for me.

Congrats Mad-bax! Thanks also to Nobody, Icmancin, and Classical_hero for running, though we could have used a 2nd candidate in one of the other elections. ;)

Thanks to all who voted, and to all the other candidates for this important position.