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Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:05 AM
Welcome! to my new nes, The Odyssey of Civilization. For those who do not realise what a NES is, read the rules, for those who do, read the rules, the rules system is diffrent and has a few new stats making their first apprences. The Rule system is slightly diffrent yet vaguely familiar at the same time, a nice touch I feel.

On a side not any complaints now, or during the game are requested to be send via PM or MSN/AIM. Look at my profile for the contacts. Any flaming will be reported to the forum Mods by me or someone else if they beat me to it, and no allowances shall be made if you are banned due to actions perpertrated on this thread.

Stat Template

Nation name
Ruler: guys name/your CFC sign on.
Govt type: Can either be Chiefocracy or Loose Tribal Confederacy to begin with.
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0 (to be discussed futher dont be too confused)
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% (your nationality)
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Choose two of them.

Rules

Government Types

Your government types will change throughout the game. With the ages progressing new governnment types will become available, each will have diffrent affects on morale, education, healtcare and the like. This will be decided by me, as they become available.

It is possible to create a new government type through story. To change the government however requires a period of revolution or reform. This is where the stories come in. Revolutions may bring bonuses or it may bring disaster. See the French Revolution for example. However you will be in Revolution for one turn, and during that time no other stats or economy may be spent. The gold that you have stored in the bank will be halved at the samt time. This will prevent nations changing governments all that often.

Futhermore outdated government types will have more problems then more updated types later on in the game as their beuracracies are as not as closely formed. You do need to keep up with the times here guys.

Current Government types

Tribal Confederacy - A Tribal council rules the nation and thus this is a more diplomatic and democratic government type availiable at the beggining of the game.
Chiefocracy - A Chief rules the state completley and controls everything himself.

Economy, Trade, Industry, Shipping

The Economy system is numerical based. the five numbers are:

Credits generated each turn/ Trade credits per turn/ Credits in Treasury/ Credits invested towards growth/ Credits owing to other nations.
(1)
Credits are generated through taxes and commerce within your nation, to expand this requires stories along with good investments.

Trade is important in this nes as is it in the Real World. It will not become available until the Late Bronze Age. When it does become available I will bring trade into more detail. At the moment you need to work out what you are trading, and what route the trade route shall take. I need remind you that this is not available yet!

Credits in Treasury is a no brainer, however this can be stolen, it can grow through intrest (paid randomly) and will be halved during revolutions.
(1)
When the Credits invested in growth becomes one more than the current credits generated, then the economy is booming. The Credits generated each turn will jump by a random number between 1 and 10. This will be compiled by dice rolling and thus like all games an element of luck is required to do well in this nes.

Credits owing to other nations means that you have borrowed money. This will not come into play for some time yet.

Industry is a numerical multiplier for the amount of troops you shall produce per each credit. Say for example you make 10 stickmen for every credit, then you with the industry of 5 will produce 50 stickment per a credit.

Shipping is the naval equivlant of Industry, enough said?

Population, Nationalities and Relgions

Population, Nationalities and Relgions play an important role in the real world and they shall play an important role in the nes. At the start all your people are your nationality and follow the same relgion however as you conquer new regions or other nations, more nationalities shall begin to reside within your borders. Futhermore new relgions will be introduced and I dont care what anyone says, NO NATION is completely mono-relgious. These are just stats and you cant affect the too much unless you pass laws and stuff to excise a nationalitiy from society or in silvers case, you just go on a genocidal rampage.

Population shows you how many citizens call your empire home and thus your available manpower. You armed services can never go above 10% of this number (ships are multiplied by 10 in this) This restricts smaller nations from having grand armies, preventing a nation like RL Canada owning an army of 10 million men in a nes.

Army, Navy and Military Supplies

The Army is the number of troops you have, training will come into play soon enough, for the time being there is no proffessional forces per se. The Navy is the number of ships you have. More types of units will become available each new age. Later in the game research will come into play to build unique units, until then you guys are stuck with the generic types.

Military Supplies are the amount of supplies you have compared to the amount you are using. If the first number exceeds the second beware, the affects wont be pretty either which way.

Education, HealthCare and Transportation

In case there isnt enough to worry about already, these stats cast reflections on your society's society. Education reflects how much your people know, it is an average and geniuses will pop out of nowhere in almost any setting although they become more prevlant in a knowledgeable setting. The higher this is in the levels, the more likely your people will be able to make that breakthrough technology wise you are looking for.

HealthCare is important in your nation. First of all if HealthCare is not sufficent in your nation, population growth will be stunted, thus slowing your military and economic growth. Second of all a good HealthCare will lead to faster population growth as people will emigrate your superior nation and more people are kept alive.

Transportation assits in the growth of your economy but mainly it is used for military response. A good transportation system will allow your army to quickly respond to any threats, and prevent them from becoming life threatning. Need I remind you however a poor transportation system may sometimes be benefical here as for example Russia in ww2 used its poorly maintained roadways in Western Russia as a defensive meassure against the Hitlerite invasion.

The levels for each three of these stats are:

Moe Syzlak
Barney Gumble
Dr. Nick
Homer Simpson
Krusty the Klown
Ned Flanders
Apu N.
Monty Burns

Morale

Morale refers toi how your people are feeling. Stories are the only way to affect this.

Ages

Early Bronze Age - Stickmen, Slinger, rafts
Late Bronze Age: Bronzeswords, javelins, canoes
Early Iron Age: spearmen, Swordsmen, Fletchers, briemes
Late Iron Age
First Imperial Age
First Barbaric Age
First Relgious Age
Second Imperial Age
Second Barbaric Age
Second Relgious Age
Age of Discovery
Colonisation Age
Reformation Age
Rennassaince Age
Age of Revolutions
Third Imperial Age
Insutrial Age
Early Modern Age
Late Modern Age
Nuclear Age
First - Space Age
Information Age
Post-Modernist Age
Second Space Age
Robotech Age
Nano Age
Third Space Age

you get the picture......

Traits

Each civilisation has something diffrent about it that makes it unique. What makes your nation tick?

The traits are:

Medical - Your HealthCare level is always treated as +1
Diplomatic - Allows for one extra trade route then usually available (trade is still not allowable yet!)
Militiristic - Your soldiers wont surrender easily, and acts of valor encourage the civilian populace.
Scientific - Your Education level is always treated as +1
Swift - Your Transportation level is always treated as +1
Relgious - Your citizens are more frevrent in relgious adherence and will ensure that conversion to the main relgion occurs at frequent intervals or else!
Naval - Your navy wont surrender easily, and acts of naval valor encourage the civilian populace.
Industrious - You begin the game with 10 industry instead of 5. Wonders take one less turn to build.
Shipbuilders - You begin the game with 10 Shipping instead of 5. Your ships are always slightly better than non-shipbuilders' ships of the same type.
Rabbits - Your population growth is always +1 (dice result)

Do Not Post Yet Please

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:06 AM
Stat and Unit Upgrade Prices - Early Bronze Age

Stickmen/Slingers 10x industry level per one credit spent
Rafts 1 x shipping level per one credit spent
Education 1 level per one credit spent
HealthCare 1 level per one credit spent
Transportation 1 level per one credit spent
Industry + 1 per one credit spent.
Shipping + 1 per one credit spent.
Trade Routes not allowed.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:07 AM
Player Stats

Empire of the Nile
Ruler: Pharoh Ramases/ Sheep2 (perm NPC)
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 10
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Egyptian
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Industrious, Diplomatic
Notes: This is just to add another nation as soon as the player levels exceed 15, I shall be making this a normal NPC.

Trebizond
Ruler: Alexius/ThomAnders
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Trebizondian
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Religious, Militaristic

Prussia
Ruler: Heine/Heine
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 10
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Prussian
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Scientific, Industrious

Athens
Ruler: Duke Theseus/Dachspmg
Govt type: Loose Tribal Confederacy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade:
Industry: 10
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Athenian
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Naval/Industrious

Caladonia
Ruler: Donnchad mac Crínáin/Kal'thzar
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Caladonians
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Militiristic, Naval

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:08 AM
Reserved for NPC Stats One.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:08 AM
Reserved for NPC Stats Two.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:09 AM
Resereved for Wars, Ages and Wonders.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:10 AM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=86195&stc=1

Link to Starting Map sorry will try and fix it so you can see on thread later.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:11 AM
Reserved for anthing else unforseen.

You may post now

Kal'thzar
Apr 19, 2005, 07:20 AM
Oh i'm in :)

And i'll be Caladonia again se who fairs better Azale or Sheep2 game....

Edit: Quickskim, what o you mean by traits?

Edit 2: Stats!

Nation: Caladonia
Ruler: Donnchad mac Crínáin/Kal'thzar
Govt type: Chiefocracy (to move onto druidic theocracy soon)
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Caladonians
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Militiristic, Naval

Err Capital: Aberdeen and you know Scotland preferabbly the highland area so if i can't have all of scotland give me to the highland (just above the glasgow-Edinburgh type of line) areas and the islands.
Fight brethen!

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:30 AM
Traits need to be added, and shall be as the last thing I do before I am off the bed. Also I need you to copy the stat template and fill it out.

Sheep
Apr 19, 2005, 07:39 AM
Traits done

Heine
Apr 19, 2005, 07:41 AM
Prussia
Ruler: Heine/Heine
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% (your nationality)
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: the 2 best ones...

Dachs
Apr 19, 2005, 01:22 PM
Athens
Ruler: Duke Theseus/Dachspmg
Govt type: Loose Tribal Confederacy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade:
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Athenian
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Naval/Industrious

Toteone
Apr 19, 2005, 01:30 PM
Shouldn't you devote the time you're spending to a divine kiss-of-life to your last NES (the one that made a bunch of pages)? Just a... suggestion. :)

Dachs
Apr 19, 2005, 01:33 PM
Maybe. Everything was getting nuked in the end.

...need more people!

Kal'thzar
Apr 19, 2005, 01:39 PM
Hey i don't mind three players :D it'll be good, update every two days cause it'll be so quick lol

ThomAnder
Apr 19, 2005, 01:53 PM
My very first time trying an NES... plz bear with me if i make any (dumb) mistakes.

Trebizond
Ruler: Alexius/ThomAnders
Govt type: Chiefocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% (your nationality)
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Religious, Militaristic

Kal'thzar
Apr 19, 2005, 01:56 PM
ThomAnder, first things first, do you have MSN or AIM your gonna need it for diplomacy etc, if you do put it in your profile please (*complains about other people who don't do that*)

Second *innocent* People on this board never slaughter 'noobs'....

Thirdly, I still consider myself a noob, enjoy.

ThomAnder
Apr 19, 2005, 01:58 PM
I have msn, but i don't exactly use AIM... I can get it though if it's convenient for others. *runs off to change profile*

blackheart
Apr 19, 2005, 02:02 PM
I wonder how long this will last...

Kal'thzar
Apr 19, 2005, 02:04 PM
3-5 updates, guessing from your reaction.

Heine
Apr 19, 2005, 02:48 PM
In that case it will be a new record for Sheep :-p j/k

Kal'thzar
Apr 19, 2005, 02:52 PM
Heines Burns in sheeps fire

*prays for forgiveness*

Heine
Apr 19, 2005, 03:06 PM
Oh great Sheep (?!?) please forgive me! "begs and prays, not to forgett worships"

Dachs
Apr 19, 2005, 03:34 PM
lol...When is first update?

Goober
Apr 19, 2005, 07:23 PM
Remember that Sheep's Internet Access is currently restricted because he was a bad man who downloaded too much, like 12 Gigs or something, and then his ISP restricted his internet to like a 28k modem or something.

All I can do is laugh :lol:

Sheep
Apr 20, 2005, 01:50 AM
First update will be as soon as we have one more player. I have several people willing to join this as soon as it makes it to a few updates in.

So the schedule is, 1 update every 2 days for the first 15 updates. At the stage I can re-evaluate and change the temp if needed. Remember the mods job is to keep it intresting for all players at the same time ;) Anyways, all I require off the players is the occasional stories and the orders on time.

So one more player, and the first update is two days from that point.

As for the Map I will be posting a blank one on the start map post I reserved so please look at it and tell me where on it you wish to start. Obvioulsy you alrteady have fair ideas and if you say nothing I will put you in that general area.

Kozmos
Apr 20, 2005, 02:27 AM
Feels like Rise of nations :)
Anyway I`ll join when it hits Nano Age :D

Sheep
Apr 20, 2005, 03:12 AM
First upate is in 48 hours, get your orders in. No PMS for the time being as there is no need for secret orders as noone can attack each other yet.

Heine
Apr 20, 2005, 03:14 AM
Scienfic and Industrius

Sheep
Apr 20, 2005, 03:16 AM
thanks Heine.

Kal'thzar
Apr 20, 2005, 04:09 AM
I Wish to expand down into england, get some prime real estate, also i want all the islands around britan (isle of man, hebridies, shetland, orkeney. This should help my eco a bit *whislte nice rich famrlands :P) Invest money in eco growth.(and the eco if i gain anything from the rich farm lands! invest invest invest expand expand expand!)

ThomAnder
Apr 20, 2005, 05:01 AM
I would like to expand west along the coast of the Black Sea, and establish coastal/fishing colonies along the way. Since there's not much to do right now, invest credit in growth as well. The idea is to keep exploring along the coastline of asia minor, as the land in the middle is harsh and rugged, so it'll be tough to settle it as of now. Also being near the coast should make transportation/trade better.

Sheep
Apr 20, 2005, 06:35 AM
Can you guys please tell me how you will be expanding and what you will be spending your credit on. Please read the rules if you need clarification ;) Other than that they look good! Also this is onlyt 2000BC, expansion will be slow and ardous. Look at the map I will be posting soon to see how big you are at the moment

Dachs
Apr 20, 2005, 07:22 AM
Establish settlements throughout the peninsula of Attica, at Piraeus, Eleusis, and Marathon (all OTL sites). Use the stickmen as guards in all settlements, divide them evenly between the four (25/ea.), and put 25 slingers in each settlement, too. Put the credit per turn into growth investment. Attica is fairly good farmland, and has mountains in the north, so it's easy to defend. It's also very small, so we can expand this way very easily :lol:

EDIT: Just looked at Kal'thzar's new orders, eco is like 1/0/0/0/1, just like his.

Kal'thzar
Apr 20, 2005, 07:35 AM
Eco on gowth like so:
Economy: 1/0/0/0/1

To expand use my army to protect settlements from attack: So basically if i start at the top half of scotland (+ isles) i would have a settlement at Aberdeen, and i would get one built at inverness (called, Inverness!).

the expansion would be to establish settlements in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Army about 75% in the two new southern settlements as they are the ones in the direction of 'barbarians'. Edinburgh and glasgow are on pretty good land (i.e. its not hills :p) and the rest is on hills so i can defend that quiet well...

You know i really need the map.

After a bit of research, i have found something out there was gold in the UK....i refer to the Kiloden gold rush. So i want some gold retreival, also there are abdundent sources of copper and tin in the UK so i'll get me some of that too. One question does this require economic point investement?

ThomAnder
Apr 20, 2005, 08:07 AM
eco growth: 1/0/0/0/1

Based on the map, i would like to send 50 stickmen and all my rafts to the site with the fishes and timbers, and establish a settlement there. The fishes will provide food and the timbers will help production. 25 stickmen will remain and guard the city (it should be somewhere near the iron source), whereas the last 25 will be sent to explore the east and map out where various resources are for future purposes. My starting site shouldn't be that far from the silver/gold resources in the map, so the exploring stickmen shall settle near those sites once they reach there.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~atlas/europe/static/map01.jpg

Kal'thzar
Apr 20, 2005, 08:09 AM
Where did you get that map?

ThomAnder
Apr 20, 2005, 08:13 AM
I googled "natural resources asia minor", got this site http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/mediterraneanmaps/ and got the map from there

Dachs
Apr 20, 2005, 12:18 PM
Stay OUT OF GREECE! OUT!

ThomAnder
Apr 20, 2005, 01:56 PM
What are you talking about??? i'm exploring in asia minor right now, and if you thought since greece was included in that map that it means i want to expand into greece, then ur mistakened. I didn't create the map, greece was included in there and i was too lazy to cut and modify it.

Dachs
Apr 20, 2005, 03:50 PM
No, just noticing how close you are to Greece compared to, say, Kal'thzar. Trebizond (can I call it Trapezus?) is in an ideal location...And you are expanding rather quickly.

ThomAnder
Apr 20, 2005, 03:59 PM
Sheep's nation is also quite close, it's just across the mediterranean. Trapezus is probably better as a name i suppose :) As of now we're still pretty far apart from each other, when the time comes we can see what the situation will be like and decide from there. Keep in mind however that you have the entire western mediterranean to you and i have the middle east to explore as well... as of now at least.

Sheep
Apr 21, 2005, 04:37 AM
ooc: Just so you guys know Egypt wont be attacking anyone but NPCs while I am in control of it. The NPCs around you howerver might be a diffrent story. Update is due in 24 hours, tell your friends to join!!!

Kal'thzar
Apr 21, 2005, 05:18 AM
Ok all my friends reading this i want you to join now or be held at : ¬ point.

Drake Rlugia
Apr 21, 2005, 07:46 PM
I'll join. I could use another NES to stop my boredom. As your doing orders now, I will send in orders after the first update, seeing as I joined late.

Korea
Ruler: Emperor Asa/Drake Rlugia
Govt type: Chieftocracy
Economy: 1/0/0/0/0 (to be discussed futher dont be too confused)
Trade: Not allowed for the current time.
Industry: 5
Shipping: 5
Population: 10,000
Nationalities: 100% Korean
Relgions: Local Pagan Beliefs
Age: Early Bronze Age
Army: 100 stickmen, 100 slingers
Navy: 5 Rafts(1)
Military Supplies: 250/1000
Education: Moe Syzlak
HealthCare: Moe Syzlak
Transportation: Moe Syzlak
Military Morale:
Civilian Morale:
Projects in construction: none
Completed Wonders: none
Traits: Medical, Scientific.

Dachs
Apr 22, 2005, 04:43 PM
What's your guy's name? It might be useful in diplo...if we ever get all the way to Korea.

Drake Rlugia
Apr 22, 2005, 09:41 PM
Fixed, he has a name now!

Sheep
Apr 23, 2005, 06:23 PM
Update One - 1900BCE - The Dawn of Civilisation

Several organised governments arised throughout the world the most notable are.

Caledonia - A nation of people in northern Britian a strong willed race of fighting men who have grown immensely haredy due to the cold weather of their dreary home.

Prussia - A nation in Eastern Europe (Prussia began its ascension in what is now Poland) it is too strong willed and led by a Iron Fist. A prominent aristocrat has been known to say Prussia is an army with a nation, not a nation with an army

Athens - A city-state of the heavily populated Eastern Mediterranean, this city is a center for naval trade and warfare. It remains to be seen if Athens will gain supremacy or rival Sparta will!

Trezabond - (I had to ask someone where to put this) A nation on the Black Sea coastline it has limitless potential for expansion as it only faces nomads to the north and East!

Korea - Occupying the southern half of the Korean penninsula it remains to be seen if the Korean people can unite with their brothers the Choson or will face battle with them in the future.

ooc: Sorry for the crappy update but its just getting started, no wars or anything. Stats will be up later today,

Sheep
Apr 23, 2005, 06:25 PM
Map to go here. Just waiting for panda to put the finnishing touches up on it. Thanks PANDA YOU A BLOODY CHAMP!

ThomAnder
Apr 25, 2005, 06:24 PM
We should wait for map and then post orders i suppose...

Dachs
Apr 25, 2005, 06:32 PM
That's what you do, wait for stats and map, then orders. Of course, some mods (stares at Panda) never update stats, and don't even pay attention to you until you bring it up in a different NES...

Speaking of waiting for Panda, what about that map?

ThomAnder
Apr 29, 2005, 08:44 PM
Is this still alive? :confused:

Kal'thzar
Apr 30, 2005, 02:03 AM
no its deader than the dodo....