View Full Version : The most evil men in history: who killed the most?
Lonkut May 01, 2005, 01:57 AM There has already been a thread about evil men but who of these evil men killed the most? I am asking for the official record because we all know there were many uncounted ones. thnxs in advance.
EDIT: Leaders.
Provolution May 01, 2005, 02:49 AM Are we talking soldiers, murderers or despotic leaders here ?
Stylesjl May 15, 2005, 04:10 AM probaly say Hitler, about 40 million would say so too if they were alive
Commy May 15, 2005, 05:16 AM I'm sure it was Hitler
greekguy May 15, 2005, 08:43 AM Hitler killed 11 million in the Holocaust and killed millions others fighting in WW2.
Kafka2 May 15, 2005, 10:38 AM It's a pointless question. Do you count deaths caused by starvation/disease in the disruption of war? Do you make allowances for the fact that in the 20th century there are many times more people available to be killed? Do you weight the deaths of civilians higher than the deaths of soldiers? Can you ever attribute all the dead in one war to a single man?
If I had to pick a suspect, on a pro rata basis I'd go for Francisco Solano Lopez of Paraguay. He didn't kill the most on a worldwide basis, but in terms of overall percentage of his population (not including starvation/plague) he takes some beating.
Left May 17, 2005, 09:45 AM I would guess Stalin might be more than Hitler bodycount wise.
Just a guess.
But I don't think number of deaths is really a good evilness gauge.
The Last Conformist May 17, 2005, 10:23 AM If we stick to people done to death outside of actual warzones, Stalin or Mao has the be the winner by absolute numbers.
stormbind May 17, 2005, 01:53 PM George Washington may have been the man who started most wars. I think he had a 100% success rate for waging war on every other nation he learned the name of ;)
antonio May 17, 2005, 02:11 PM It could be agrued Charles I of England because he argubly started the English civil war which killed a higher percentage of people in Britain then any other war in British history.
kingpenguin May 17, 2005, 07:13 PM I would say, at least recent enough to get a slight count, Stalin killed many times as many people as Hitler. There was a History Channel show about him that talked about his nasty habit of going to the ballet, then returning home to sign thousands of names to kill. It sounds almost fictional, but he just wrote names down, sometimes not even satisfied with the number of names and writing for several thousand random people to be killed. We Americans were responsible for the most successful genocide in history, however. That against the Native Americans.
blackheart May 17, 2005, 07:35 PM I would say, at least recent enough to get a slight count, Stalin killed many times as many people as Hitler. There was a History Channel show about him that talked about his nasty habit of going to the ballet, then returning home to sign thousands of names to kill. It sounds almost fictional, but he just wrote names down, sometimes not even satisfied with the number of names and writing for several thousand random people to be killed. We Americans were responsible for the most successful genocide in history, however. That against the Native Americans.
Don't forget the devestating slave trade.
North King May 17, 2005, 08:40 PM Indirectly, I'd think Columbus wins for nearly purging the Earth of an entire race. But directly, well, who can say?
hagenx81 May 18, 2005, 06:19 AM There has already been a thread about evil men but who of these evil men killed the most? I am asking for the official record because we all know there were many uncounted ones. thnxs in advance.
EDIT: Leaders.
And no one mention Genghis Kahn?? wiping out cities of it's population from Asia to eastern europe?
I don't even think Mao is evil enough to be considered.
civ2 May 18, 2005, 06:36 AM The biggest killer:
Cain - killed 25% of humanity!!! :) :) :)
And this was made in some few minutes.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Kafka2 May 18, 2005, 07:00 AM We Americans were responsible for the most successful genocide in history, however. That against the Native Americans.
No you weren't. Compare it against the fate of the Tasmanian aborigines- they were totally wiped out.
Yom May 18, 2005, 08:19 AM If we stick to people done to death outside of actual warzones, Stalin or Mao has the be the winner by absolute numbers.
Yeah, but I'm not sure if the 20 million that starved from the failure of the Great Leap forward should actually count. Granted, it was his fault, but it wasn't outright killing like that of Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot.
stormbind May 18, 2005, 08:52 AM It could be agrued Charles I of England because he argubly started the English civil war which killed a higher percentage of people in Britain then any other war in British history.
There were quite a few warmongers in that episode :sad:
It leaves me with mixed feelings over Cromwell. Was he a visionary trying to do good, or a bloodthirsty warmonger?
kingpenguin May 18, 2005, 01:27 PM No you weren't. Compare it against the fate of the Tasmanian aborigines- they were totally wiped out.
Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I think the aborigines were only one culture of people. Native Americans aren't just Cherokee or Iroquois. We at least decimated every tribe, every culture in North America. (Leaving South America for Spaniards). If you go out far enough west in the US, you may find a "settlement" of Indians, but anywhere else and people celebrate if they're 1/16th Native American. Aborigines exist to some detail, don't they? I don't specifically know about them.
Left May 18, 2005, 06:47 PM And no one mention Genghis Kahn?? wiping out cities of it's population from Asia to eastern europe?
I don't even think Mao is evil enough to be considered.
Ghengis Khan was much more just than most conquorers.
Ramius75 May 18, 2005, 11:19 PM I will like to add Pol pot to the list, please dont forget this guy and his regime.
Stalin
Polpot
Hitler
and more...
N3pomuk May 19, 2005, 11:44 AM I think that if you go by body numbers that can be attributed to direct policy correlation, Mao would be number 1 followed by Stalin then Hitler, probably Hirohito as well, but who is to say.
If you want to go by percentages of certain populations killed, you would find the Assyrians way on to ;) followed by allot of ancient civs. Remember people were allways this bad, Industrialization and Centralization just allowed this to be done faster/on a greater scale.
Just reading parts of the old Testament makes me fear yea armies of olde.
Rambuchan May 20, 2005, 06:38 AM This is a hard one to answer. Perhaps asking which system or which ideology killed the most would be more useful and revealing, if not quite so entertaining.
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