There is one thing missing on this forum: Chinese Succession Game!
So I decided to start one. I will start it as soon as I will have 4 more people in this succession game.

Btw, I have three important questions:
1)Should we start this succession game on Real World Map or on Random Map?
2)How many turns should everyone make?
3) What difficulity should we play on?

And here is the player list (updated regulary):
das (1 rounds done)
ratio (0 rounds done) - replaced by Red Leader (0 rounds done)
donsig (1 rounds done) - 1 GNOCDY Award for finding Horses and beginning expansionist politics!
blang13 (1 rounds done)
Fayadi (0 rounds done)

Announcement: the Order of GNOCDY - Great Nation of China Deserves You! - is formed. I would like to give it to Donsig - this will be given to everyone who makes something GREAT for China.
We shall see who will have the most GNOCDY's in the end! Also, all the GNOCDY, wil be given by the mass! But the first one was VERY IMPORTANT!

From now on, after each full round, we will decide who will receive GNOCDY in it. There can be maximum 3 GNOCDYs in each round!

I'll play.. About the map, is there a way to play historical starting locations on the world map yet? If not then I would much rather play with a random map.

What difficulty level are you going to play at?

Okay, so I will add you right away!
And about the question - no, on the one that ships with game, unfortunatly no. However, a guy there nicknamed Masterman made a savegame as Chinese, on world map, 16 civs, all positions historically correct. So if we are going for Real World Map, then I mean Masterman's savegame.

And to Jaffa - let's decide this too!

I will play. I prefer a random map but will play on world map if that is what everyone else wants. Any difficulty will do.

20 turns per player is good at first. As the game progresses we can go down to 15 and then 10 turns each. The key seems to be finding a rotation that works for all involved. I can play around midnight or 8am-noon est usa.

There is a problem with editing my first post...

Okay, now this problem has disappeared after I made a new post. Very interrresting....

I'll play

Just curious if there was still an open slot. I'll play if so.

Bob

The masterman u mentioned was that me?
By the way if there is slot let me in
Just wanna let u see my new saved game,I uploaded a World Map Chinese Civ game again with all positions correct , this time my civ is much more powerful than the one i posted previously..
U r in year of 770.Most of your cities are great(finished building all the improvements) and u r building many riders from the big cities to kick the Indian Ass.
In Shanghai,2 ship was waiting,1 rider was being built,u r waiting for D-Day Chinese Invasion of Japanese
My cities is roughly about 15 only but each one are powerful,Remember Japan and India must be eliminated,Germany is taking space between ur big cities,i dunno if they can be captured by culture if no passion just whipe them off.
In this 16 civ game i almost known(negotiatied) with all the civ,u got nearly 3000 golds!U r in fore front of technology!
Wow Riders ARE CHILLING!

To both of you: Okay, you are in!
To everyone who still hasn't joined: there are no places left - however, there will be place open while anyone from the list won't post the savedgame in two days - someone must replace him. Anyone who wants to replace him just say it there. However, when he comes back replacement time will end.
To Fayadi: So you are the masterman who made those cool savedgames. Did you made them with Savedgame Editor? Then I can make thsoe too Btw, in post with the saved game, topic started was "Masterman"...
To every player of this succession:
I offer the following settings. Do you agree?
Difficulity: Monarch.
Map: World Map by Fayadi.
Turns: 20 (20 from 4000 BC, from 10 BC 15 and from 1000 AD 10).
I will start tommorow or today.

Great job, Fayadi!
Also, here is Chinese Imperial Coat of Arms!

I thought again, Gentelmen (I mean Mandarins), and decided to start the game RIGHT NOW - time is wasting, you know what I mean?
Update is coming up:
Next time I will just post Imperial Coat of Arms before the report on my activities.

Settings sound good to me. As for turns, maybe we should go 20 then 15 then 10? Anyone else have an opinion on this?

My turn count (twenty required):
4000 – 1
3950 – 2
3900 – 3
3850 – 4
3800 – 5
3750 – 6
3700 – 7
3650 – 8
3600 – 9
3550 – 10
3500 – 11
3450 – 12
3400 – 13
3450 – 14
3400 – 15
3350 – 16
3300 – 17
3250 – 18
3200 – 19
3150 – 20
China Part I – Tribal Union and Chief Day Hong Shu I – 4050-3150.
BEFORE THE GAME BEGINS
4050 – 4000 BC The Chinese tribes migrate to area of modern-day Beijing. They form a tribal union.
GAME BEGINS
4000 – Chinese build the town of Beijing on Yellow River. Chinese decide to recruit some Chinese villagers to warriors. Meanwhile, Chinese workers decide to visit a village to southeast from Beijing, after building a road to wheat area to south from Beijing.
3800 – In that village to southeast from Beijing, Hsung-Nu tribe has taught Chinese how to use wheel. Some horse pastures are found right outside Beijing.
3650 – Barbarians approach Beijing. In case of emergency, half of population has to become Warriors forever.
3600 – Warriors are ready for defense. Barbarians are defeated, and Warriors become Veterans. Also, Chinese tribal priests start to build some kind of primitive “palace”.
3550 – Chinese culture expands around Beijing. Unfortunately, more Barbarians arrive to try their luck at Beijing.
3400 – Some Barbarians are slayed.
3300 – Even more Barbarians are slayed. Warriors in Beijing are now Elite. Chinese workers start building primitive irrigation.
3250 – Remained Barbarians are dead or run away.
3200 – Day Hung Shu becomes the chief of Chinese, introducing succession system.
3150 – Day Hung Shu dies, and he proclaims that Jaffa Tamarin is his successor.
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Yep, I don't have much luck, and after all, I am not expert. Moanrch level is REAL hard to me, as I just understood it...
Your turn, Jaffa Tamarin!

Horses are a good thing to have early on. If they are within our borders we should get a road from Beijing to the horses asap.

Cool das... And the Europa Universalis shield is a nice touch. I haven't played that any since I got Civ III though.

I'll do my turn tonight sometime. Are you going to post the save game? If not you can email it to me at ratiocinate@aol.com

Just wanna ask what would be the name of the leader....
Have we started...And when we are going to start......
That map wasnt created by me(the owner has copyright :lol:)
I can help to start with the correct positions,just wanna tell u my opinion...16 civ com is slow to play thats horrondous when u have slow com....my com is still okay at 733

Another saved game !Yeah THE CHINESE ELITE FORCE HAD CAPTURED TOKYO AND DELHI !If u want to stop war with the indians ask e'm 22 gold per turn they will agree!But Japan has few cities just destroy him out of the earth!Those who loves Rider download this saved game!There are lotta here

So when are we gonna start the game??Shall i creat the game first because i think i am the only one who knows how to correct all the civ starting position here

1.Name of Leader:?
2.Name of Tribe:?
3.Name of Noun:?
4.Name of Adjective:?
5.Name of title:?

Lets vote

I vote for
1.StealthRider
2.Chinese
3.UCCR (Union of Chinese Central Republic) :lol: just wanna follow USSR style
4.Genius Chinese
5.Genius President

I think das has started the game but hasn't posted the game file.:(

I did started the game already, and btw, didn't I attached the game file? Okay, if I didn't, then Tamarin, now it's your turn!

What's wrong with this attachment, anyway?! It isn't working!

Okay, since attachment adding ISN'T working, then please, everyone, give me your e-mails.
List:
das - das1@matav.net.il
Jaffa Tamarin - ?
ratio - ?

Okay, since attachment adding ISN'T working, then please, everyone, give me your e-mails.
List:
das - das1@matav.net.il
Jaffa Tamarin - ?
ratio - ?
blang13 - ?
donsig - ?
Fayadi - ?
Now, I will e-mail it to you, Jaffa, after you play you will e-mail savedgame to ratio, then ratio will e-mail his savedgame to blang13, then he will e-mail to donsig, then he to Fayadi, and he to me.
Got it?

Okay, since attachment adding ISN'T working, then please, everyone, give me your e-mails.
List:
das - das1@matav.net.il
Jaffa Tamarin - ?
ratio - ?
blang13 - ?
donsig - ?
Fayadi - ?
Now, I will e-mail it to you, Jaffa, after you play you will e-mail savedgame to ratio, then ratio will e-mail his savedgame to blang13, then he will e-mail to donsig, then he to Fayadi, and he to me.
Got it?

U didnt know how to attach the file??Press browse beside attach file
Anyway my e-mail is Fayadi@scientist.com

Wait. I don't got it! It worked when I forgot to put the file in ZIP, and now it isn't!

I don't get it!

Wait. Now it's working. And btw, there is a report in the 1st page.

I'd love to play people! If there is room for me to still squeeze in somewhere. Ofcourse everything seems rather 'incoherent' and unordered to me so Im still wondering what the 'rules' are for succession games (never having played part of one), and also wondering how people know whos up next and so forth.

Nevermind, I read that there are no places left in a post das made earlier. But mark me down for interest if someone doesnt show up, and feel free to still answer my questions on succession games in general.

Huh? I'm in this game now?

You didn't put me in the player list in the first post :confused:

I DIDN'T?! Are you kidding? I remember clearly I did! Maybe I fogot... Anyway, it's your round now, make 20 turns, and don't forget to make report about important things that happened in the game, OK?

And to GeniX:

Succession Game is when someone plays, then after making the agreed amount of turns, and gives it to next player in list, then he plays, and gives his saved game to the next player, and so on... Until it returns to the first one, then the procedure continues again, and again, and again, until the game ends.

And also, to make it recorded, every player makes the report of his reign.

Oh sorry. I misunderstood... Mean, next time I need to know the difference between the first reply on the succession game thread, and the joining into the game. Anyway, it's your turn, ratio, I am terribly sorry for my mistake.

mark me as interested....

das sorry i must correct u something...
After building warrior build Settler!why build archer?U need to expand ur empire!
Why the hell u research pottery?Writing is important so that u can get literature for great library!Dont irrigate on grassland ,there is a bug the food still stays at 2.Normal grassland food is 2,if u irrigate it,it still stays at 2!No use!Irrigate anything but not grasslands!Wheats on grasslands have impact!Normal grassland dont irrigate ...build mines!if a forest got 2 shield bonus dont clear the forest.Unless ur city wants to grow beyond 12(thats about industrial age then u can do so)
How to play on Monarch like this?Even I normally plays on Regent or Warlord ....Not used to Civ III style .Regent level is just about my skills yet (maybe because I was too agressive for declaring wars on so many civ?) the importance of expansion was not forgotten.Sorry not saying bad,hope u will learn ur lesson and become better civ player :goodjob:

I will start it again, okay? Btw, I will switch the difficulity level to Regent now. And please, ratio, don't play the saved game! I will start again.
And to Fayadi: sorry I didn't knowed about the grasslands. But I think that this is just because that WE ARE STILL AS DESPOTISM! They have effect only after switch to Monarchy of Republic.

Btw, it's just because that on those correct location saved games, you always start at Monarch difficulity, so the only thing to change this is with saved game editor.

Despotism??U r right in Republic there is diff,I didnt know that .....the civilopedia never describe it?By the way how ya know it,my friend told me it was a bug.Really sorry bout just now i heard a bad news just now and maybe overreacted in my language.Basically i just wanna say expansionist is important.Play at Monarchy then it will be fun.Emperors or Deity sucks they cheats like hell

Guys! I tried again, but... can you imagine it? It was even worse! Barbarians haev attacked us, killed our worker, and we loosed all our money, and city has stayed at 1. So I decided that we should play on the first saved game, only on Regent difficulity level! So here it is! Ratio, carry our relative GLORY on!

And also, I know about the importance of expansion. Only after I saw how many Barbarians are attacking us, I've understood ONE THING: we need BETTER defense. So maybe I overescimated Barbarian Power, but the feeling of importance of defense only incraesed after one of my fiascos...

Expansion can also lessen barbarian troubles because barbarians will not come within the borders of a civ. It is difficult to balance defense and expansion and improving cities.

we need to restart the game again I'm sorry but i just discovered that 16 civ games are way too long to play.at 800 +ad it took 3 mins to waiting for the AI to move!We have to seriously reconsider!

It doesn't creates any problems with me...

Oooh ok then,so when are we getting our next saved game again?

As soon as ratio finishes his first part in this SG. If he won't answer tommorow, then we will have to pick up one of replacement persons there...

GeniX, you are in, since ratio hasn't replied yet!

I am very sorry guys! I was hoping to get a turn in some days ago but I fly home for christmas tomorrow night. Ill be back in 5 days.

I know I really wanted to join in. I shoulda kept quiet instead :-O

3150 BC - 2850 BC: The Chinese people live happily in isolation.:)

2800 BC: Chinese people enjoy the luxurious silken clothes and bed linens.:cool:

2750 - 2710 BC: Happy Days are here again. :) :)

2670 BC: Beijin supplied with horses.

2590 BC: Chariot squadron created to explore the outlands.

2510 BC: Chinese people master the art of bronze working and turn their attention to their new horses.

2470 BC: Chinese chariots diesperse barbarian camp and send plundered gold back to Beijin.

2430 - 2310 BC: Chariot explores and finds more barbarians as a band of Beijin residents leave town to find a new place to live...

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We must explore and make new cities!

We have access to LOTS of horses!;)

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GNOCDYD
G - Great
N - Nation
O - of
C - China
D - deserves
Y - you,
D - Donsig!
Do you have any hints for your successor?

Empresses and Emperors, I would like to announce that the Honorous Order of GNOCDY is FORMED! FMILFP
F - For
M - More
I - Info
L - Look
F - First
P - Page!
Okay, I will stop making this puzzle now...

I am honored to be the first recipient of this great award!:D

Advice for my successor? There's a tough choice coming up concerning where to put the next great Chinese city. I was heading down the coast but that is unexplored territory. I think it owuld be wise to get another chariot out there exploring. I think it is of great importance to secure those extra horses as well - especially if we find neighbors to the north. OMT (one more thing): I think mines are more useful than irrigation at this stage of the game.

If you need a substitute or temp player!?!?!

RedLeader: We just had a player drop from our English succession game. Perhaps you are interested in playing there? We're playing England but the thread says 'Egyption'.

The English are too far along. I would rather start in the BC era.

Blang13, where are you?
One more day, then Red Leader will replace you!

Sory all, I didn't realize it was my turn. I'll get it out hopefully later today (Monday). I just downloaded the file.

Bob

Works fine with me...
Okay, we will wait...

*Looks at his nuclear clock, and wants to commit suicide*

Hey guys,

I'm trying to play the game. I downloaded the turn, unzipped it and put it in the save game folder. When I go to load it, I get a list of errors, and the game won't launch. Is there a patch I need or something else I need to download. I'm trying here.

Bob

I re-zipped the file and I'll repost it here. See if this is better blang13.

EDIT: Attachment deleted to save server space!

This is better be good, since I have my nuclear terminal, prepared to destroy all the world (now that's SUICIDE!)!

Well? I can't wait all day! One more day, while I will wait, okay?

Or else!
:nuke: :suicide: :nuke:

Has anyone downloaded the file to see if it works now?

Do we have a 72 hour rule in this game?

Sorry for the delay guys. Here is the file. Blow by blow account to follow. Guess I didn't realize I needed the 1.16f patch.

I rise over the body of great donsig to take my place at the thrown of the Chinese. The New Despot on the block...

All dates BC:

2270: Our Chariot dispatches 2 attacking Barbarian warriors and is promoted to elite status.

2230: Nothing

2190: Worker at Beijing begins a new mine

2150: Our new Chariot is built and is sent down the Yellow River to explore. New Settlers being recruited

2110: Shanhai founded down the coast from Beijing. Recruitment begins for civil defense of this new outpost

2070: Continued exploration. Limitations of Chariots over mountains hurts exploration as Mountain range is found.

2030: Work begun on Beijing-Shanghai road.

1990: Nada

1950: Dispersed Barbarian encampment and collected loot.

1910: Horseback riding discovered. Piles of new Manure in city make citizens of Beijing restless. Elvis brought in as moderator. Scientist set out to find a way to standardize our language in an "alphabet."

1870: New Settlers raised in Beijing. Uprising ends. Work begun on Spearman for civil defense. Settlers sent out to found city near horses to the NW.

1830: Zippo

1790: Warrior built in Shanghai. Sent to explore down the coast.

1750: Again, nada

1725: Time seems to be moving more slowly. The moon blamed. Beijing raises Spearman, work begun on Horseman for more effient exploration. Villiage found in mountains, but Chariot can't enter due to rough terrain. Berlin - Shanghai highway completed. There is much rejoicing.

1700: Another Barbarian encampment disperses. More loot taken. Tartars teach our warrior Ceremonial Burial. Foul odor in our nation immediatley dissipates.

1675: yawn

1650: Indian warrior spotted to our West by our Chariot.

1625: More silks brought to Beijing. People spending more time in bed.

1600: This sickness in me grows. Horseman built in Beijing. Sent of to the SW to explore. Temple construction begins. Spices found along the cost by our warrior. Lots of nice new city sights as well. My body will be cryogenicaly frozen until I can be cured of this illness. Tata.


Notes: The settler in the NW was being chased by a barbarian. I brought the chariot back for protection. A city can be founded when the two unite. Indians have yet to make contact. Lots of nice city sites down the coast.

Is it Fayadi's turn?:confused: ?

Yep, and he better hurry it up, or else... [punch] [punch] [punch] [punch] [punch]

AND FOR THE GRAND FINALEE:

:ninja:

now that's only a joke here...

Oh Mr. Fayadi!

Hello! Fayadi!

Well?!:confused:

Perhaps we should skip Fayadi. Are we using the 72 hour rule?:confused:

Okay, I will play tommorow.

The game isn't loading with me either...

I rezipped it and uploaded it again.

Bob

I will play tommorow, and send The Reign of Das II and the file here tommorow.

It's been quite awhile and nothings happened so I played some turns...

1550 BC: Canton founded on a hill near the horses in the north.

1450 BC: Nanking founded on the coast.

1000 BC: Xinjian founded on the coast and Tsingtao in the interior.

Swapped a tech with Ghandi and bought one from Alex. Also found the Persians. Our two chariots and lone horsemen unit continued to explore and fight barbarians. We lost one warrior to barbs.

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I built us some new cities and started temples in them but they are undefended right now! Seems as though we have lots of room to expand peacefully.

This game is still very early so I hope someone picks up the ball and runs with it!

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Uhhh - What is the map size, difficulty, etc?

Regent difficulty. I'm not sure of the map size (I didn't start the game). Looks like a world map though. We seem to have started in the right spot for China. There are some posts on the first page about the map.

I take a whack at it :rolleyes:

I suspect you will need to start a new thread, and manage this one yourself.

WOW this thread is screwed up! The first four pages are entirely consisting of spam from das. This is first page see anything about china!!!

Maybe somebody in this game should start a new thread...

Pre-turn
Hmmm... Large world, Beijing to Pyramids. Very critical this game. Nanking whips out temple.

975 BC - First contact with Europe, the Germans. We buy Iron working for $65. Greeks alreadying builidng the Lighthouse.

950 BC - Our chariot disturbs angry warrios near Germany, then runs away. During OUR turn - :flamedevi:
We give the Germans world map for contact with Egypt, Russia, England, English, French, Romans + techs of Mathematics / Map Making.:flamedevi: Trade India world map for Territory map, worker and $25. Trade Babylon world map for Territory map and $2. Not much, but ... Trade Persia world map for territory map and $40. Trade Russia world map for territory map and $7. Trade England World map for world map and $9. Trade France World map for world map and $6. Trade Rome world map for world map and $4. Trade Egypt world map for world map and $13. One last good one - Trade Greece world map for World map and $60.

ARGGGGGG!!!!!! - Establish some embassies - France will get the pyramids in 24 turns.

875 BC - I never saw this one before! Nankings borders expand and disperse a barb camp! Talk about easy money :lol: Sell world map for some pocket change, but it covers buying another worker from Greece. Shanghai finishes barracks and starts pumping out veteran spearman.

850 BC - Chengdu is formed. Start another temple.

825 BC - Canton begins Spearman production. This city will be stuck at 2 for a long time, so perfect military city.

800 BC - I spot a goal - IRON.

775 BC - More map trading - another embassy.

670 BC - More map trading - another embassy, and contact with the Zulu.

650 BC - First contact - Japan. The trading bug SUCKS. I can't sell first contact with Japan to anyone.
Major surprise - AMERICA builds the Pyramids.

630 BC - Repeat of 775 BC.

550 BC - Final act, see 775BC. In addition, trade England literature / world map for Code of laws. Trade France Philosphy/ $30 / World map for consturction. I don't know if we will get the Great Library - so I had to pick them up.


[b]WARNING - Hugh map will eventually create problems with zip file size > 500[b] Long way away, but something we should be aware of.

Sorry but it seems you attached file of 1000BC not 550BC :confused:
However well well well done and what a deal all those map tradings!!!:king:
If there's free slot I would like to join, das you hear me?

Doh.

Yaana, If you want to play go ahead!.
Donsig is trying to get this game going again.

Yes, go ahead yaana, you are welcome to play!:)

Here the legend continues: (sorry for my poor english:p)

Preturn: Hurry Xinjian's temple, Spearman sent out for coming settlement.
530BC: Xinjian & Tsingtao finished their temples. People in Beijing feel unhappy so give em 1 entertainer.
510BC: Building more settlers in Shanghai.
490BC: .
470BC: Our spearman & worker successfully blocked an indian settler, this area is MINE.
450BC: Go away you greedy AI landlord, you may NOT settle there NEITHER.
430BC: Again expelled those indians, our settlers in place.
410BC: Hangchow founded, now we control 2 incenses.
390BC: Found fur and a goody hut to the north!
370BC: We've found a new source of iron near chengdu, how lucky!!! :D
350BC: Goody hut gave us 50G, not too bad. Totally suspended our science research, hey we are building The Great Library arent we?
330BC: .
310BC: .
290BC: French achieved polytheism not republic, our researched restored.
270BC: Our navigators reached Australia's east coast.
250BC: library library library, building library everywhere.
230BC: Tientsin founded, 2 iron in our hand. They invented currency, haha our great library will do some real help.
210BC: Russia declared war on us, they want our terran map plus 25G for nothing, go hell you scum!
190BC: Incense supplied.
170BC: Russia invited persia to declare war on us, seems we'll have a leader soon.
150BC: We dont fear them.:rocket:

who next???:confused:

Don't be shy, go ahead and take a turn, especially if you like war!;)

We need players, so jump in. Just post and let us know you are playing so two people don't play at the same time.

New thread for this game. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16236)