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steviejay May 06, 2005, 06:20 AM ok, with the recent release of new about the new Rome Total War add on (Barbarian Invasion or something) I'm just wondering what people would like the next full Total War to be? (lets face it, the franchise is just too popular now not to)
We've had Shogun Total War, Midevil Total War and now Rome so where woudl you like to take it? I've heard several whispers of a "Napolean Total War" but that might just be internet chat. I'd quite like a Napolean Total War, and my vote goes to that but I'm curious to see what else they could do. Perhaps set earlier, set between Midevil and Napolean, around the time that Spain was in her prime Philip: Total War perhaps :mischief: if they done that however they'd have to seriously upgrade the way the game handles navies.
Any thoughts?
WickedSmurf May 06, 2005, 06:23 AM Civilization: Total War.
Darth_Pugwash May 06, 2005, 07:35 AM I think they will do a Mythology: Total War, similar to Age of Mythology. That would be awesome.:D
steviejay May 06, 2005, 08:07 AM but they seem to be sticking to actual physical parts of earth history, rather than Mythology, that'd be like Middle Earth: Total War........ hey that'd be pretty cool.......
Harbringer May 06, 2005, 11:17 PM they should do a World war 1 total war. You could have your men in trenches and use the 75mm to launch chlorine gas and have A7vs and the mark female/male series. That would be awesome. The only limitation would be that there would be very few countries and america wouldnt have tanks.
Dell19 May 07, 2005, 06:27 AM I think they will do a Mythology: Total War, similar to Age of Mythology. That would be awesome.:D
I would rather they sticked to the real world...
Reno May 07, 2005, 07:23 AM I would rather they sticked to the real world...
Same here.
Thrawn May 07, 2005, 07:56 AM Mythology is fun, but not as fun as rewriting history. ;)
Vladyc May 08, 2005, 03:53 PM I recently read this unfortunate news on gamespot:
Many-a-PC gamer was thrilled last fall when Activision released Rome: Total War, the latest installment in the Creative Assembly's long-running real-time strategy series. However, those same gamers were horrified when the British developer announced it had been bought by Sega and was now developing a console action game, Spartan: Total Warrior. The news made many believe that the Creative Assembly was abandoning PC development altogether.
I really hope its not true--there is so much potential for great games in that series.
steviejay May 08, 2005, 05:22 PM na no chance, they'll keep building PC games they wouldn't just abandon a platform because they changed producers. that'd be like saying yeah we're going to abandon Civ4 on the PC to make it for the X-box2
FriendlyFire May 09, 2005, 04:29 AM Three kingdoms - Total war
bombshoo May 10, 2005, 08:12 PM they should do a World war 1 total war. You could have your men in trenches and use the 75mm to launch chlorine gas and have A7vs and the mark female/male series. That would be awesome. The only limitation would be that there would be very few countries and america wouldnt have tanks.
I would like to see this too..Maybe go like 1880-1920 though to get some more stuff in (Late Imperial Period). You could always add semi fictional tanks and stuff. There is quite a few countries. USA, UK, France, Russia, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey, Italy as playables. CPs could be Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, Portugal, Belgium (Though I think the Belgians would be fun to play)..Maybe some neutrals Spain, Denmark..Or if its a world map add in Ethiopia, China, Japan, Persia. South America too, but thats confusing and actually too many countries.
Actually an American Civil War version would be great, it wouldn't be as complex since it would only have 2 countries, but the battles would be awesome.
Dreadnought May 11, 2005, 05:07 AM I would like to see either Napoleon or WW1. But for WW1 you'd need a new combat system for the tanks.
Dreadnought May 11, 2005, 05:08 AM I'd love to see the whistle blow and men yelling "Over the top!"
:D
jeriko one Jun 02, 2005, 09:23 AM Mesopotamia: Total War(Assyrians etc). Then Chariot Invasion. They will not change the battle system much and the army sizes will not be absurd like they would be in the later eras like WW1. A game about 30 Years War should be fine too.
Betrayed Jun 02, 2005, 09:45 AM It could be bind to some specific country, like USA, German, Finland, Russian etc.
The Person Jun 02, 2005, 10:01 AM Future: Total War.
Volstag Jun 02, 2005, 03:18 PM they should do a World war 1 total war. You could have your men in trenches and use the 75mm to launch chlorine gas and have A7vs and the mark female/male series. That would be awesome. The only limitation would be that there would be very few countries and america wouldnt have tanks.
This would require a radical departure from their current design. The engine, as written, couldn't handle engagements featuring hundreds of thousands of combatants, air-power, long range artillery, fronts that are dozens of miles long/deep, submarines, etc.
Also, if the weaponry is modelled somewhat realistically, the western theatre would bog down into a series of dueling static fronts -- which doesn't make for a very compelling game.
Volstag Jun 02, 2005, 03:20 PM Civilization: Total War.
That would be the Mother Of All Strategy Games!
FriendlyFire Jun 07, 2005, 06:15 AM Civilization: Total War.
Just a correction
Sid Meiers - Civilization: Total War :D
Midwinter Jun 07, 2005, 11:34 AM Alpha Centauri: Total War!
Cataphract887 Jun 08, 2005, 04:02 PM That would be the Mother Of All Strategy Games!
only if they took the time to do it right this time-bugs, lack of patches,and unhistorical civs was big :thumbdown for RTW...and the ability to really have thousands of troops,not just cranking some unit slider up(which also warps balance)
the inability to have more than 20 units=the most total BS ever :mad: i had 3v3 running smooth with maxed units(20) so why cant i have 1v1 with 50 units??
Ulyaoth Jun 09, 2005, 05:20 PM I heard that most likely they'll remake Shogun or Medieval with the Rome engine, then work on a new project.
Akka Jun 11, 2005, 04:49 AM I would be disappointed by a Napoleon : Total War.
Not that it would be a bad game, but I much prefer the hand-to-hand fighting, and I'm not interested in the gun period.
I would much prefer a Civilization : Total War or even a Fantasy : Total War.
Cheezy the Wiz May 28, 2006, 09:47 PM Yep folks this is a bump. I was about to start a new thread, but realized that one exists, so in the interest of conserving our otherwise limitless natural internet resources, I have bumped this thread.
I would totally be FOR both a Napoleon Total War and a Total Great War, or they can be one in the same. Perhaps it can start at like 1750 and go to 1920 or something. The map might be Eastern N America, say, E of the Mississippi, and then the entirety of Europe, N Africa, and the east to about the Eastern edge of the Caspian Sea, or the Urals.
Keep in mind that there is already a Napoleon Total War mod out for Medieval. its rather good, there is an American Total War that is a variation of this user-made mod for MTW. I reccomend checking it out, as it is all kinds of fun. The unit sizes are like 200 or so, and there are battlefields like Gettysburg youy can fight on!
Dreadnought May 28, 2006, 11:10 PM There's also a Napoleon mod for Rome :)
The Yankee May 29, 2006, 02:24 AM Three kingdoms - Total war
That's good. Also Spring and Autumn: Total War...the time of Confucius. Or a later time right before Qin seized power.
RickFGS May 29, 2006, 10:31 AM Playboy - Total War ;) Babes in phalanx formations fighting of other hot babes in legionary cohorts, each of the armies lead by miss july vs miss january.
Cheezy the Wiz May 29, 2006, 07:32 PM dont tease me...
Swiss Bezerker May 29, 2006, 07:37 PM IraqvsAmerica: total war.
Or, more realisticly, Colinization: total war
Dreadnought May 31, 2006, 04:27 PM IraqvsAmerica: total war.
Or, more realisticly, Colinization: total war
Here we go again ... :lol:
If they had a Colinization thing, they'd need to change ship battles
Elta Jun 25, 2006, 03:21 PM Here we go again ... :lol:
If they had a Colinization thing, they'd need to change ship battles
Iraq has/had a navy? :D :D :D :king: :goodjob:
They allrady announced that they are remaking medieval totalwar
http://www.shopireland.ie/games/detail/B000ENN9AG/Medieval-2:-Total-War-(PC)/
heres an idea
Global Total War 1400
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
...wait a minute why isn't that like an anime or some thing yet *starts in on it*
King Flevance Jun 26, 2006, 06:58 AM I haven't got to try out the TW series yet :sad:
But here are some ideas maybe:
1)Carthage:Total War
2)Troy: Total War
3)Native American: Total War (Tribal: Total War?)
4)1492: Total War
5)New England: Total War
steviejay Jun 26, 2006, 07:16 AM Carthage TW's kinda been done with RTW, you've got Troy total war down but I think maybe a Greek/Persian Total War might be interesting, Mesopatanian Total War kind of thing.
Dreadnought Jun 26, 2006, 10:44 AM There's a mod for RTW thats the Trojan war.
Rashad Jul 19, 2006, 12:22 PM Noone's mentioned Egypt: Total War ?
I would rather play Three Kingdoms: Total War though, or a remake of Shogun.
Dreadnought Jul 19, 2006, 05:40 PM Egypt was already in Rome TW
sand Jul 22, 2006, 01:10 PM buisseness tycoon: total war
on a more serious note.
mongolia:total war "its like playing parthia except you have to defeat 10 clones of you then egypt is china"
RameNoodle Jul 24, 2006, 02:54 PM What about "Islam: Total War?"
West 36 Jul 24, 2006, 04:23 PM How about this: It begins in early 16th century, with the huge British, French, Spanish, and yes, Portuguese empires. Ottomans and American colonies are there too. Later theres a revolt that happens, which i think is possible in RTW:BI and America struggles for its independence, later America has its own revolt and it has its civil war. Napoleon is going on, there can be PIRATES. pretty sweet I think.
Gr3yL3gion Jul 25, 2006, 05:33 AM They can use themes from China's history, or Mongols.
mango20022002 Jul 31, 2006, 04:27 PM Medieval II Total War has already been announced. http://www.totalwar.com
I would like a future TW game to focus on the wars of religion in Europe during and after the Reformation. The "religion" trait would play a similar role as in BI, but with the religions being Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Sunni and Shia Muslim. As before, cities with different religions to your own would be more rebellious but you could gradually convert them by demolishing their places of worship and replacing them with those of your own religion. I would also like the Iranian Safavid's to be in this game as a Shia faction. Countries would have Catholic and Protestant provinces that are at variance with the majority, leading to rebellions e.g. Catholic Northern England (in most of 16th century), Catholic rebellions in Ireland, Protestant ones in France and Germany etc.
I would like the game to cover the period 1567-1700. I would like the "events" window to include the Great Fire of London, Plague breakouts, the Rye House Plot, Flight of Mary Queen of Scots to England, the Gunpowder Plot, and the excommunication of Elizabeth I. 1567 would be a good starting point because Mary arrived in England that year, the Dutch War of Independence started in 1568, and because Poland united with Lithuania in a Commonwealth in 1569.
Units should include pikemen, musketeers, mortars and cannon. Playable factions should include:
England
Scotland
France
Spain
Portugal
Navarre
Holy Roman Empire
Kingdom of Naples
Morocco
Netherlands
Ottoman Empire
Papal States
Russia
Poland
Bohemia
Denmark (controlling Norway)
Sweden (controlling Finland)
Savoy (Northwest Italy)
Transylvania
Venice
As an unplayable faction I would include Switzerland because of its internal civil-wars at the time. Probably not important enough though to be playable. Perhaps other countries can take advantage of this to form alliances and acquire territory. I would still give the Pope a role for Catholic states similar to the Senate in Rome and the Pope in Medieval and Medieval II. Muslim clerics would have the power to call Jihads like in the model planned for Medieval II.
Donkey Puncher Aug 03, 2006, 11:33 PM personally I would like to see mongalia or genghis Khan total war
Red Door Aug 04, 2006, 03:30 PM I want to see a World War 1/2 Total War.
steviejay Aug 08, 2006, 06:33 AM for some reason I'd never thought of a WW1/2 Total War. I suppose you could just change it to something like '20th Century - Total War', it'd need to be a World Map Though...... some comps would melt with that much processing required
Red Door Aug 09, 2006, 07:17 PM for some reason I'd never thought of a WW1/2 Total War. I suppose you could just change it to something like '20th Century - Total War', it'd need to be a World Map Though...... some comps would melt with that much processing required
It would be the same as Civ 4. :p
steviejay Aug 10, 2006, 06:09 AM heh true never thought of it like that. but to contain the level of detail in themaps.... that would slow it down somewhat
Sisonpyh Aug 23, 2006, 04:43 AM CA mentioned that their next installment might delve into the Fantasy realm. They apparently don't like Gundpowder eras and the engine probably doesn't either.
Anyways, there is only one answer to this thread. Warhammer: Total War.
steviejay Aug 23, 2006, 05:42 AM Na, they'd never get the rights and I don't think CA'd let anyone have their engine.
I actually got a suprise yesterday when I stumbled upon Alexander: Total War in my local Game store. I'd heard nothing about it. I'd buy it, but with Med Total War 2 just around the corner I'll hold off
Drakan Aug 23, 2006, 02:31 PM CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.
steviejay Aug 24, 2006, 03:56 AM really? awsome (although I fear that by doing this they're trying to save money on being creative but simply redoing the old games with a gradually updated engine) Do you have a link Drakan?
Sisonpyh Aug 24, 2006, 07:48 AM CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.
No they haven't.
Provide a link of proof if otherwise.
Drakan Aug 24, 2006, 01:30 PM No they haven't.
Provide a link of proof if otherwise.
They haven't announced it officially but it has been hinted heavily.
Unfortunately the website in which I read it seems to be down for the last two months or so:
http://forums.rometotalrealism.org/
And as any true fan of RTW knows they are the ones behind the wildly popular Rome Total Realism Mod. It is there that I learnt earlier this year that Medieval 2 : Total War was going to be realeased this year long before Gamespot or any other website even knew or posted any such news.
The fans of rometotalrealsimorg were always in the know-how long before something went mainstream.
So Sisonpyh I won't take as a disrespect the tone of your post because they haven't made it official yet, as you highlight, and won't make it official until early 2008 (after all they have to sell M2:TWs expansion pack first) and unfortunately their website has been down these last two months so I cannot post a link to the exact thread where I read it.
Albeit if you take your time to read through their threads and posts, at least once it's back up online 'cause they are changing server I believe, you'll see that in a couple of threads this is mentioned by very knowleadgeable posters regarding the TW series; people that I and others have come to respect in time.
Sisonpyh Aug 25, 2006, 03:48 PM So Sisonpyh I won't take as a disrespect the tone of your post because they haven't made it official yet, as you highlight, and won't make it official until early 2008 (after all they have to sell M2:TWs expansion pack first) and unfortunately their website has been down these last two months so I cannot post a link to the exact thread where I read it.
Albeit if you take your time to read through their threads and posts, at least once it's back up online 'cause they are changing server I believe, you'll see that in a couple of threads this is mentioned by very knowleadgeable posters regarding the TW series; people that I and others have come to respect in time.
Translation: I (Draken) was just talking out of my ass.
CA has not said anywhere that they will be doing Shogun Total War 2 next. Nor have they implied it. So how about you stop spreading cliche fanboi rumours and acting like your statements are fact when you nothing to back them up.
As a matter of fact, CA implied in the 'Bonus Materials' DVD under the chapter 'Future: Total War', that came with Total War Eras, that they wanted to continue the series in an original manner. They even mentioned the possiblity of delving into the fantasy realm. Nothing about the segment implied they would do a rehash of Shogun, quite the opposite actually.
And yes, hopefully you take my tone to be disrespectful in this post. It wasn't meant to be disrespectful in the previous post, but after your snobby 'true fan' comment, it seems well deserved.
Drakan Aug 25, 2006, 05:20 PM It's drakan with an "a", you spellt it wrong.
Nothing is a fact until proven as you rightly point out.
Look I'm not going to enter into a pointless discussion with you here. As I already made clear in my last post to you I cannot back up my claim because that website is down.
Long before Civ IV was released, we knew tons of details from CFC because its a website made by fans for fans of the game. They weren't "fact" until the game was released and we finally saw those long-commented features built in the game.
It's not about being a snob Sisonpyh, it's about people who like the game and are dedicated followers of the franchise. Similar to CFC is rometotalrealismorg which amongst it's posters have game designers, skinners etc.. who develop games, mods and also have ex employees of CA posting. Have you actually visited rometotalrealismorg's website ?
I think you are under the distinct impression that fansites are for 20 year-old wishful thinking "fanboys" (again you spellt this wrong) when the truth is that you have members of all ages.
So you can call it an educated guess if you wish by people who know well the company and what to develop a game means not just careless posts by a bunch of brainless 15 year-olds who are blindly guessing.
You have to understand that it's much easier for CA, for numerous reasons, to deliver a new instalment of something previously existing than creating something from scratch such as a Fantasy realm game as you point out. CA love the Sengoku Jidai period because it's perfectly fit for a TW type of game, this has been posted a zillion times by them.
Anyway, we'll see early 2008 who was right when they anounce they 5th instalment. Taking into consideration also that SEGA bought CA last year the next instalment of the TW franchise is a no brainer IMHO.
Sisonpyh Aug 26, 2006, 05:55 AM It's drakan with an "a", you spellt it wrong.
I think you are under the distinct impression that fansites are for 20 year-old wishful thinking "fanboys" (again you spellt this wrong) when the truth is that you have members of all ages.
Word of advice, if you plan on being a Grammar Nazi, don't make the same mistake. It is spelled, 'spelt', not 'spellt'. :goodjob:
The way I spelled fanboi was intentional. You really need to catch up with the internet slang man.
Nothing is a fact until proven as you rightly point out.
Look I'm not going to enter into a pointless discussion with you here. As I already made clear in my last post to you I cannot back up my claim because that website is down.
You already enterered and started the pointless discussion. You stated that Shogun Total War 2 would be CA's next project as if it was fact. I called you out on that lie and for some reason you became defensive about it.
It's not about being a snob Sisonpyh.
Actually, in your case it is. Your 'true-fan' crap has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Based Similar to CFC is rometotalrealismorg which amongst it's posters have game designers, skinners etc.. who develop games, mods and also have ex employees of CA posting. Have you actually visited rometotalrealismorg's website ?
Oh ok, so if the website of a popular RTW mod says something - IT MUST BE TRUE. Forget the fact that none of them actually develop games or speak for CA currently.
So you can call it an educated guess if you wish by people who know well the company and what to develop a game means not just careless posts by a bunch of brainless 15 year-olds who are blindly guessing.
An educated guess my 13 year-old cousin could of came up with. The rumour may end up being right, but it's nothing more than speculation at this point.
You have to understand that it's much easier for CA, for numerous reasons, to deliver a new instalment of something previously existing than creating something from scratch such as a Fantasy realm game as you point out. CA love the Sengoku Jidai period because it's perfectly fit for a TW type of game, this has been posted a zillion times by them.
Thank you captain obvious. Yes, of course it would easier. Doesn't mean it will happen.
Truth of the mater is, I actually provided you evidence of CA (themselves) implying that there is a good chance of developing a rehash of old work would not be their next project.
You on the other hand, provided nothing but internet speculation and presented as if it were fact at this point and time.
IMHO.
Thanks for your not-so-humble-opinion; as you most diligently proved by defining who and what is a 'true-fan'.
IMHO was all you had to say to begin with in your original misinformative post.
Drakan Aug 26, 2006, 06:24 AM As I posted already, thrice, you're right, CA has never officially made public what the 5th installment would be. I think there is no need to call me a liar. My post shouldn't have stated categorically that CA had made that clear because they haven't, as you bluntly pointed out.
I already made clear in the following posts which was my source of information, that website, which isn't a fact as you rightly point out.
I'm not giving a definition of who is or is not a true fan. All I'm saying is that there are members of that community which are heavily involved making games and have actually worked for CA, that's all. You can still love the game and be a fan and there is no need for you to visit that website. In fact in another fellow website (totalwarcenter.com) they are looking to recruit workers for CA now.
What I'm trying to make clear is that some of those members are very well informed regarding the TW franchise and there are not just your average 13 year-old-fan guessing. It's now been a couple of years reading the posts and have been proved to be extremely insightful in many aspects just like CFC is to the Civ franchise.
Sisonpyh Aug 26, 2006, 06:43 AM I think there is no need to call me a liar. My post shouldn't have stated categorically that CA had made that clear because they haven't, as you bluntly pointed out.
Although, I didn't call you a liar, I said your post was lie. It wasn't meant as an insult toward you, but directed at the content of what you posted.
evidence:
CA already announced that after Medieval 2: Total War would come Shogun 2: Total War.
CA has not announced anything of the manner.
What I'm trying to make clear is that some of those members are very well informed regarding the TW franchise and there are not just your average 13 year-old-fan guessing. It's now been a couple of years reading the posts and have been proved to be extremely insightful in many aspects just like CFC is to the Civ franchise.
They might be well-informed in some areas, but their insight stops when it comes to what CA will be producing next.
No where have I implied or stated that the people who produced the Total Realism modification for RTW were brainless 13 year-olds. But you would be lying once again if you claim that their message board doesn't have at least some misinformed 13 year-olds posting on it.
edit: for clarity
Cannae Aug 26, 2006, 06:31 PM Anyways, there is only one answer to this thread. Warhammer: Total War.
My response to this is that
1 IMHO Warhammer sucks like a mound of crap
2 I aslo think that if they are to make a Fantisy total war game I would think it SHOLUD be somthing based of age of Mytholgy.
3 Last but not least I think that eather A future Total war game or a Collinial Total War game would be my number 1 picks
Sisonpyh Aug 27, 2006, 07:55 AM 1 IMHO Warhammer sucks like a mound of crap
And you probably know next to nothing about Warhammer.
I aslo think that if they are to make a Fantisy total war game I would think it SHOLUD be somthing based of age of Mytholgy.
Age of Mytholgy? *yawn*
Lance of Llanwy Aug 28, 2006, 03:52 PM Something based in Chinese history would be good. But not the Three Kingdoms...that just has a lot of baggage and really doesn't have good possibilities as far as expansions go. I think something Late Warring States would be good, and then the expansion would be the fall of the Qin(and subsequent rise of the Han). Then, if they wanted, they could do a third expansion on the TK era...
Vietcong Aug 31, 2006, 02:37 AM well now that its a midevil 2 total war, i whould like to see the next one be something similer too "Mesopotamia, Total war"
main civs in the game chould be egypt, hittites, assyrians, babilon, meds, greeces, summerians, isreal, phonicia, minoans, creetians ect ect ect.
prity much the area from greece down to the north coast of africa, to the coast of the persian gulf.
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