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Ghost
Jun 29, 2005, 11:49 PM
Hi
in the last 2 weeks I have had2 posts about computer problems. In both I decided to buy a new video card. Specificly the Geforce 6600GT AGP 126mb from XFX. I ordered it from newegg.com and got it this morning.

I put the card in and installed the drivers. Then I tried to play a game. After about 30 seconds the game froze, then my computer switched screens to a blue screen with some writing for about half a second and then it restarted.

I'v tried playing all my games with the same results. Sometimes it just quits the game and shows me an error message asking me if I want to send it to MS.

Does anyone know what the problem might be?
Can it have something to do with the drivers from my old card?

ainwood
Jun 30, 2005, 12:21 AM
Does anyone know what the problem might be?
Can it have something to do with the drivers from my old card?Possibly. What was your old card, and how did you go about uninstalling it? Did you just unplug it and plug-in the new one, or did you make sure to remove the drivers as well?

If not, then try looking under "add / remove programs" in the control panel to uninstall the drivers.

Note that some games actually tailor the display details etc to the installed card - some do this every time the game starts, some do this when the game is first installed. It might help to try uninstalling and reinstalling one of the games, although if this problem is consistent over a number of games (as your post suggests), then its probably more likely to be some other sort of problem.

KaeptnOvi
Jun 30, 2005, 02:01 AM
another thing: card manufacturers often deliver the card with old drivers, you might want to check out their website or nvidia.com for more recent drivers. maybe they'll resolve this problem

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 12:30 PM
Are the drivers from Nvidia.com different from the ones at XFX.com?
which ones should I use?

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 12:33 PM
Also when I went into the add/remove programs thing there was only one driver and it was called: "Nvidia drivers"
I never uninstalled the last one. What do I do now?

Lozzy_Ozzy
Jun 30, 2005, 01:22 PM
Nvidia.com

I'm not sure what to do with uninstallation, but I do know you should uninstall them when you remove the card (as others have mentioned).


Hope it can be fixed :goodjob:.

Ozzy

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 01:44 PM
I uninstalled all of the drivers and reinstalled the newest ones.
Nothing changed. The games still crash

ainwood
Jun 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
What brand was your old card?

Do you get any error messages, or just a reboot?

What is the wattage of your power supply? Its possible that the new card pushes it over the limit.

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 03:29 PM
My old card was a Geforce 4 mx440

Sometimes I get an error message that asks me if i want to send the report to MS
Sometimes my moniter turns balck and after about 2 seconds the computer restarts
Sometimes my computer just freezes

I have a TigerPro 300W PSU

Could my PSU be the problem?

ainwood
Jun 30, 2005, 03:55 PM
300W should generally be OK - depending on what else you've got running with it. The monitor turning black and computer restarting is typically what you'd see with a lack of power supply, but the error message asking if you want to report it to m$ is not, neither is the computer freezing (As far as I know).

If your old card was a geForce, then that explains why the drivers were the same - but it sounds like you've since installed the latest driver anyway.

The 'problem' with those 'do you want to send this to microsoft' error reports is that they tell you virtually nothing about what the actual problem is.

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 04:03 PM
ya I know
those thing are lame

i'm going to put this card in a different computer and see what happens.

ainwood
Jun 30, 2005, 05:36 PM
I noticed a reference to driver cleaner in the other thread about nVidia drivers. It might be worth you running that - download it here (http://www.drivercleaner.net/). Can't hurt - instructions are on the link page.

stormbind
Jun 30, 2005, 07:22 PM
If you are getting the same problems before and after changing the graphics card, then this is a common problem during the summer months. (http://images.google.com/images?q=cpu%20cooler&hl=en&lr=&safe=on&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-22,GGLG:en&sa=N&tab=wi)

If it is a new problem after installing the graphics card, do a search on Google for you your motherboard & graphics card combination. You may find that core-logic drivers need updating, or the BIOS needs editing, or in a worse case scenario the motherboard simply cannot provide enough juice and needs hacking (though this is rare).

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 07:38 PM
Not the same problem
It was better before switching cards.
Before it just froze
now there are different problems

Comraddict
Jun 30, 2005, 11:08 PM
when changing video cards, it is always smart idea to reinstall Windows.

Ghost
Jun 30, 2005, 11:31 PM
I put my card into a new computer and it worked fine with all the games
I'm going to format it, reinsatll winodw on it and bring all my importand stuff onto my new computer. Then hopefully it will work

Thank You for everything guys

vbraun
Jul 01, 2005, 12:06 AM
when changing video cards, it is always smart idea to reinstall Windows.
I installed a new video card and didn't reinstall windows and it works just fine.

stickciv
Jul 01, 2005, 06:20 PM
I had the same problem and although this probably wont help but I struggled with it for a few days and then my dad got an extra processor. (my MB can support 3 processors) Because of that though I had to reinstall windows and with it evedrything else and the card started working. I think your problem is not removing the old drivers and because of that the old ones look for the old video card which is gone and that makes windows crash. That blue screen you get, what does it say? if it ays some ID like numbers and letters and then says that something is unequal or of that sort then its the drivers. Remove both fully and then reinstall the new card drivers and look on Nvidia.com for some more up to date ones.

cidknee
Jul 02, 2005, 09:24 AM
when changing video cards, it is always smart idea to reinstall Windows.

ummm ok. whatever. Ive changed my vidoe card 5 times, never had to reinstall windows. Thats like saying when fixing you winshield u have to change the engine.
Makes no sense.
You should clear off any old drivers, update your bios and get the latest drivers from the company.
reinstall windows..... lol, i like that

Ghost
Jul 02, 2005, 06:47 PM
I now have a new problem
please check my new thread:
...and now the games dont work(2)

vbraun
Jul 02, 2005, 06:50 PM
I say replace the memory.

777
Jul 09, 2005, 10:40 AM
Bloody hell, I have just the same problem as you have only difference that my card is PCIExpress, otherwise same. I'm running with AN8-V motherboard and Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 512 DDR ram (few years old).
Could it be that it's memory what is making problems? What I should buy?

Nice thing that my old computer destroyed and bought brand new parts, but then nothing works. This is why I hate sometimes really much computers :mad:

CruddyLeper
Jul 09, 2005, 04:51 PM
777, have you plugged a power connector into the graphics card? Same type as goes to a CD or DVD drive?

That's why Ghost's problem was, solved in the follow on thread.

777
Jul 10, 2005, 12:28 PM
It seems that I can't plug 4pin plug there, or there isn't place for it so...I think that's a difference between PCIExpress and AGP

Cedric Greene
Jul 10, 2005, 08:31 PM
It seems that I can't plug 4pin plug there, or there isn't place for it so...I think that's a difference between PCIExpress and AGP
Yeah from what others said that's only an AGP "feature". My guess would be a small power supply, do you know the wattage and manufacturer of your power supply 777?

777
Jul 11, 2005, 07:49 AM
I think 350W should be enough. This is really tricky and annoying problem since I can't in any find solution.

Last effort is that my memory isn't suitable with my new parts.

Cedric Greene
Jul 11, 2005, 01:13 PM
I think 350W should be enough. This is really tricky and annoying problem since I can't in any find solution.

Last effort is that my memory isn't suitable with my new parts.
Yeah my manual says minimum of 300w but suggests 480w power supply. Certainly can be the memory, especially if transferred from one board to another. I would look up the manufacturer of the board and find out what they recommend and then look of the manufacturer of the RAM and see if your board is on their compatability list.

777
Jul 11, 2005, 02:01 PM
I think I'll have to get 2x512Mb DDR 400MHz modules. Memtest throw few errors allready :sad:

777
Jul 12, 2005, 08:30 AM
Ok, now the blue screen of death stays and doesn't immediately boot. These are the most commen messages what it says "DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUALL" or "nv4_disp.dll"

cidknee
Jul 12, 2005, 04:37 PM
google it....
heres a link that I got
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Q_20837201.html
or
Here is what microsoft says about it.

Stop 0x000000D1 or DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
The Stop 0xD1 message indicates that the system attempted to access pageable memory using a kernel process IRQL that was too high. Drivers that have used improper addresses typically cause this error.

Interpreting the Message
This Stop message has four parameters:

Memory referenced.
IRQL at time of reference.
Type of access (0x00000000 = read operation, 0x00000001 = write operation).
Address that referenced memory.
Resolving the Problem
For additional troubleshooting suggestions that apply to all Stop errors, see "Stop Message Checklist" later in this appendix.

Stop 0xD1 messages can occur after installing faulty drivers or system services. If a driver is listed by name, disable, remove, or roll back that driver to confirm that this resolves the error. If so, contact the manufacturer about a possible update. Using updated software is especially important for backup programs, multimedia (http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-21286-Driver_irql_not_less_or_equal.html#) applications, antivirus scanners, DVD playback (http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-21286-Driver_irql_not_less_or_equal.html#), and CD mastering tools.
For more information about Stop 0xD1 messages, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base link on the Web Resources page at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources. Search using keywords winnt, 0x000000D1, and 0xD1.

updated and comaptiable drivers are very important when running XP. Check your hardware with the HCL www.microsoft.com/hcl If you hardware is not on the list it does not mean it won't work it just means it hasn't been tested by Microsoft and they won't Guarantee it to be compatible. If it not on the list check the manufacturer's website fo an up to date XP driver, if they don't have one you may be out of luck. This goes for motherboards and the bios too.

ainwood
Jul 12, 2005, 06:18 PM
I had this frequently recently - a long with a few other ones. The problem was that the PCI slot in the motherboard was failing - I moved my modem to a different slot, and the problem disappeared.

Might be a bit more difficult if you only have a single video card slot....

777
Jul 13, 2005, 02:15 PM
I don't have any devices in PCI slots. Only video card in PCIE slot.