RGC3
For those of you who are not yet familiar with RGC (Rhye's of Civilization Goal-based Challenge (http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/index2.php?nev=MC.html),) it is a GOTM-like contest based on Rhye's phenomenal mod. Every challenge has certain goals, not necessarily related to victory, and players get scores based on how well they complete the goals and bonuses for the challenge. So far we've had one wide-open military expansionist game as the Arabs, and one, more restricted colonial game, as the Dutch.

To Atlantis
The past two games were based on more-or-less unaltered versions of the basic mod... This time, however, there is a large island in the Atlantic - the legendary island of Atlantis. Players will take the helm in the most elusive super-advanced utopia in history (or perhaps in fantasy...) At first they will have to build their island paradise, become scientifically advanced, and generally outdo all of their neighbors.

...And Beyond!
Regrettably, just a few centuries BC, tragedy will strike as Atlantis begins to sink into the ocean later named in its memory. Two legendary Greek heroes will take a select group of Atlanteans into the island's volcano, right into Tartarus - the underworld of Greek myth. There the survivors will find their fate... They will have to literally fight their way through hell to survive, in what may remind you of Age of Mythology or even an action game! This unique game experience will only be available once the more "normal" game is completed.
But I do assure you, the entire challenge is well beyond normal! ;)

The Challenge will begin on Monday, July 11. It is currently in intensive playtesting and you have my personal guarantee that it will deliver.
Rhye's of Civilization Expanded, updated to version 1.23, is required in order to participate in this challenge.

A preview of the 2nd part:

http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/atlantis3.jpg

This the first scenario that introduces an action sub-game in civ!

That looks awesome!

Rhye, you are the man!
This looks sooo breathtakingly great!!!

:))

(I assume we will have to download some add-on to the mod, won't we?)

Rhye, I don't know how to say this, but...

I LOVE YOUR MOD, MAN!!! :cry:

;)

Ok, it'd be better if I could ever finish a game (still haven't made it past Industrial Age more than once), but that's my fault, not yours. Thanks a lot, Rhye and Blasphemous, I'm clearing my schedule for this bad boy! :goodjob:

SilverKnight

e poi c'era la marmotta che confezionava la cioccolata

e poi c'era la marmotta che confezionava la cioccolata

??? bella questa, che vordì?

I've been waiting for this for a long while. Sounds very promising, I can't wait!

Rhye you are insane....

Rhye you are insane....

:confused: thank you

e poi c'era la marmotta che confezionava la cioccolata

ma dici questa?

A preview of the 2nd part:

http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/atlantis3.jpg

This the first scenario that introduces an action sub-game in civ!


:eek: Does this map look too good , have to download? :goodjob: :D

esattamente quella marmotta, nel senso che tutto ciò è altrettanto incredibile. E sarà la fine, visto che giusto gli rpg riescono ad essere quasi piu addictive degli strategici a turni...

That terrain looks very nice :) The water (?) looks like molten lava :thumbsup:

Oh yeah, right. Talk english.

sorry, I don't think you could understand anyway, since we were talking about a tv spot...

sorry, I don't think you could understand anyway, since we were talking about a tv spot...

spot isn't english :p "TV ad" is the correct term

Sorry, Rhye. I am in the TV industry here and we use "spot".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riker
sorry, I don't think you could understand anyway, since we were talking about a tv spot...


nothing better to do? It's hard to find something related to TV in scandinavian black metal...

Sorry, Rhye. I am in the TV industry here and we use "spot".

in the dictionary "spot" means other things. The correct English term is advertisement.

Yes, but look at where he is!

Wow! the subterra terrain looks great! reminds me of some old Diablo1 days... :devil:

Yes, but look at where he is!

where? Yuggoth?

where? Yuggoth?

It may be in the dictionary but no one in the industry (other than those in advertising) use the term "TV Advertisment". :p

Whatup... its been a long time! I heard you needed people to test rgc3 ;). I'm starting to get some free times again (yeah). So pm me for details and tell me what you need! I'm in.

Heh, Rhymes, good to see you back and free... You may want to update your sig. xD

Release date has been delayed to Monday, to give more time to the testers so that we can offer a more balanced challenge.
But you can subscribe right now.
In fact, from now on, you'll need to send us a mail to notify that you're joining the competition.


I couldn't post this in the site, as it is not working. :mad:
As soon as possible I'll post there the details about all this.

Riker gli RPG sono un pò sotto a Civ3 in quanto a scimmia...

The site is updated now. You'll find all the details here

http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/index2.php?nev=MC.html

Riker gli RPG sono un pò sotto a Civ3 in quanto a scimmia...

un altro italiano? Siamo in 6 allora!

i migliori

Yeah, what he said, lol. :rolleyes: I've asked off from work a few days next week, so it's all good! I'm in! :D

SilverKnight

P.P.- Congratulations, V.Soma! :goodjob:

P.P.- Congratulations, V.Soma! :goodjob:


Thanks!
It was a helluva good game, I played it over like three or four times. :)

My hopes are high for RGC3!

yes soma played a nearly perfect game last time.
however i was impressed even more by danger bird: he really behaved as the bad european when securing the spices and silks monopoly. Unfortunately he achieved a very late victory, and was disvantaged for this.

so it's all good! I'm in! :D

SilverKnight



glad you're in this time!

I've just received your mail.

I haven't got Soma's and Winterfell's yet, instead.

what is the working mail address for application? :)

I just send mine right now.

It's on the site in the description.

Sweet! A secret URL link WITHIN the game! I feel like a little kid again! Maybe if I'm first, I'll get a decoder ring to unlock a THIRD stage! :p This is so cool, I can hardly wait!

SilverKnight

will I have to drink a potion?

Just wanted to say,that I'm in.

Offtopic:
Are you going to release that terrain set?

Just wanted to say,that I'm in.

Offtopic:
Are you going to release that terrain set?

ok.
i've just received your mail.



the terrain set is here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123351

by the way, remember that you need Rhye's of Civilization Expanded installed, updated to 1.23

Well, the day is here. I want my file! :crazyeye:

The day has just begun... I want to squeeze in a last round of testing soon, but the challenge is otherwise ready... Either way, it will probably be released within a few hours.

Rhye, have you got my mail?

And mine? I've just unlocked a few days of freetime

yes i've all the mails (10). I'll wait this evening, in case Blasph has something more to notify

I will not eat until I have the save.

Rhye, please use this address of mine:

csikusz@axelero.hu

I am starving!

Oh. Just read the thread and saw that I have to send a mail to get the save. I will do it now.
yes soma played a nearly perfect game last time.
however i was impressed even more by danger bird: he really behaved as the bad european when securing the spices and silks monopoly. Unfortunately he achieved a very late victory, and was disvantaged for this.
Yes, I was very bad. I felt awful having to take over the Chinese, Korean, and Japanese homelands (even razing their inland cities) - it's not my style. But there was no use having some of the spices and silks; I had to have them all.

Ugh,how long till the release ?

Maybe when I die of food deprivation

Just sent the email, hope you receive it.

Been awhile since I played (game was no longer a challenge), but looking forward to something new.

great, 12 players now!

The release is at dinner time here (8:30 PM GMT +1)

Just in time to save my life!

Doh, 9:30pm here when it is released,looks I have to be night in my dad's workplace...Any change to change the time to 8pm ?

Will the file emailed contain all the graphics and such that we will need?

i doesn't depend on me...i'm waiting for blasphemous last report.

When I get it, or if don't get it at all, I'll send you the link to the file containing Part 1

alright, just please be quick about it, i really wanna see it before going to sleep. Next hours or two will be great ^^

alright, no sign of blasphemous, I'm uploading it.

Thanks, I think I may be dead in minutes

You just saved my life.

Damn,I only have one full day to play this,before I go to camp

It's sent, and the site is updated.

We currently have 13 challengers: Jeff1787, Riker, Silverknight, Blackbeard, Winterfell, V.Soma, Spetznaz, Salvor Hardin, Adc, Pontus, Danger Bird, Barak and Gunnar Krueger.

In case of mispelt nickname, installation problems, or file not received, contact us.

I got the link, but when I downloaded the .zip file and tried to open it, it said "Unexpected end of archive." I looked and saw that I got the folders, but no files! :cry:

Can you send again? I sent another email with the same request.

SilverKnight

the zip works. try downloading again.

I've just uploaded part 2. It's 8MB. Sorry if it hasn't available been available until now.

I've sent part 1 saves. In the site you say that checkpoint is 1500. In the game objectives that is 2000. I've sent 2000, 1460, 1320 and the after finish save

double post

sorry it's 2000BC. I'll correct the site.

Oh good, I noticed that too, and was just here to ask, lol. This looks SWEET!! I wont spoil anything (I'm only on the 2nd turn :p ), but for those who haven't gotten this, GET IT! :king:

SilverKnight

After the earthquake Atlantis send troops with Greel heroes in the underworld. But how is it possible since I didn't even build a warrior?

Well part 1's Warrior represents a huge bunch of warriors really, and in part 2 every unit represents one single person... There's only a handfull of them, probably not enough to be represented by one whole unit in part 1.

Done, done, saves submitted!

That was the most fun I've had actually completing a game since the Conquests came out! I loved it, and it's given me the idea to make a kind of unit-based mod more like Tzar than Civ...

:goodjob: Fantastic work, Rhye! I hope I did ok, I just charged through both parts...

SilverKnight

Did you sent the link to me ? Because I don't see no new e-mail from you

yes i have.
i'm sendin you again.


btw I haven't received Silverknight saves

SK, I'm impressed, in part 1 it took me at first many tries to get the micromanaging right, and then it turned out I was just being stupid and I needed a completely different strategy in my micromanaging.
Anyway, if you start a mod like that I'd love to help with ideas and stuff, let me know when you start working on it.

That was pretty short. I liked the first part better. It could've been longer.
I will send it later.

I tried to send them right after I posted that, but got a MAILER DAEMON. Tried again this morning before work (BTW, 2.5 hours of sleep because I stayed up late playing RoCX: priceless :p ), got another MAILER DAEMON. I'm sending again... it's still rgc.sub@gmail.com, right?

I'm not sure how well I did... got a bunch of goals, but totally ignored some others, lol... Also, about the mod, I don't even have a solid concept yet. I was thinking of something based loosely on AD&D. A small set of weak, upgradeable adventurers to augment a village's militia, maybe against some evil empire, I don't know. There's some fundamental problems about such a mod, but I'll try some things out.

Hope these saves get sent!

SilverKnight

EDIT: Got another MAILER DAEMON... :(

try to send them to my mail

SK, the mod could work if you simply make it an OCC with no improvements, wonders, or techs. You simply get a base and it produces units. You could also start every player with say, three settlers, and make it an elimination game.
One fun setting for the game can be a simple random mix of fantasy stuff based on the graphics available. No plot, no background material, just a shissload of cool units.

Rhye, I don't have your email, only the RGC one I've posted before. Could you email me with it, since I can't send attachments through the site. :( And I wanted to be the first one to submit, lol.

After working out some ideas of what I wanted to do, I found myself describing something VERY similiar to the DragonLance mod I've been wanting to do, so I'll just crack down on that. The old thread is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=92421), but it's not 100% up to date on my progress. I'm actually watching "The Matrix" wth my friends right now, and am resisting the urge to try to mod it, lol! I'll post a new thread about the map and mod whenever I get around to it.

BTW, I only played each part of RGC3 once, since I didn't want ANY reload penalties.

SilverKnight

you'll find my mail in the RGC page.

So far as I know, that email worked, thanks Rhye.

Also, I forgot to ask, what's an OCC? I probably know, I'm just not thinking of the abbreviation.

SilverKnight

I've got the mail.

OCC=One City Challenge

I just finished the 1st part. I'll start the 2nd part maybe in a day or two. It was pretty intense!!!!!! :crazyeye:

Rhye, I destroyed the Greeks, but it still had them in the game even though they had no cities??? :confused:

probably a respawn. don't worry about it.

Rhye, I cannot download part 2 of RGC3 - a shop's page comes in - help!

it's working.
you've probably mispelt something

I tried everything and failed - Rhye, would it be possible to send the address to me in mail? I am at home and wants to play it! :))

EDIT: I can download the 1. part, but not the 2. I tried it again and again different typings

Thanks, Rhye, NOW it works!

It is great, but I dont understand how this Victory Location thing works - does the game end if all my units get there? and does it end automatically or do I have to save the game and call it the end myself?

I reached a something on the map which looks like a V.Loc., and all my remained units went ther and nothing happened... ?

save the game and quit.

Rhye, I also can't open part 2. I have tried several times,

Thanks, Jeff

remember that it's case sensitive

I've started part 1, and I've got two scientific leaders so far - one with literature and one with philosophy.

With the first one, I thought I had an unbalancing advantage but kept going because others may have also had lucky breaks.

But now with two of them, I'm not sure. I'm going to keep going just to see how far I can go. But if you think this is unfair, I'll play again from this point, disbanding the second scientific leader.

why unfair? you just were lucky.

Ok, I've finished part 1 now and even with the scientific leaders/fast wonders I couldn't meet all of the victory conditions. It will be interesting to find out when this is over if anyone did, and if so, how they did it.

Now on to the mysterious part 2!

Actually, from my testing, it seems getting ALL of the goals is practically impossible. Players should probably just pick what they'll try to acheive and what not.

EDIT: blasph, read your Germany thread

19 challengers and 4 submissions so far.
I'm afraid some goals of part 1 were pratically impossible, because they didn't depend on the player. With some more testing we would have made a better goals list.

Rhye, I also can't open part 2. I have tried several times,

Thanks, Jeff


Rhye has sent me the working URL - the solution to the problem:
Leave out the "_" from the address at the end and replace it with a " "...

I finally got it to work. Will start it today or tomorrow..... :D

Finished Part one, but was out of town the past several days. I'll get working on part 2 tonight and tomorrow!

I just sent an email requesting the save. Thanks in advance.

I've sent the saves for part 2 some days ago. Tell me if you don't have them, Rhye

yes i have :)

Damn it, Rhye! :)

With blood, sweat and tears I put an end to the Greeks in the LAST TURN, that is in 1270...
I was overwhelmed with joy... it was a hard job done...

Only then I checked victory conditions and there it stands:
"Greeks eliminated by 1300 BC = 80 pts"

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr..............

80 points are better than 0 points

Just submitted my RGC3 savegames.

First part was really great, I didn't quite like the second part though...nice idea, but it just isn't working well with civ3 imo. Most annoyingly, at first I lost all my 3 galleys to the first 3 turtles (which I consindered rather idiotic :crazyeye: so I restarted part 2 after some 10-20 turns).

Nonetheless I enjoyed the challenge, especially part one. Time was crucial - it soon became clear that it just isn't possible to achieve all goals, and that maybe the most important decisions are what to research first... I won't go into details until submissions are closed, but it's probably no spoiler to say that we entered the Golden Age 4 turns before the end :mad: :lol:
Oh, and the Greeks respawned in South Africa, hope that still counts as elimination...

10 submitters so far, and tomorrow is the last day of the 50pts bonus.

Judging from the results, this is a really amazing challenge.
Amost everytime I receive a new submission, the potential winner changes.
It has moved through Blackbeard, Soma, DangerBird, Riker and a couple of others: this is due to the fact that even a low score can affect the top 5-6 ranks through the bonuses among contestants.

I found that in both parts it's easy to find everything stupid and unfairly hard, but after a few tries you learn how to avoid major problems like losing your ships in part 2.
There's no rule against trying the whole thing again, you only lose points for reloading in the span of saves between the starting save and the submission.

Rhye, did u get my saves????

yes yes yes

Rhye, I guess it wouldn't have been possible to modify a multiplayer game for part 2 so that the turns were timed? I've no clue, but it seems plausible. It would have been even more like an action game. I was a little nervous loading it up that you may have found a way. (nervous because where I play I usually require a pause in the action, not because I am scared of a challenge)

i'm not sure because i've never player MP, but I think you should adjust the MP Timers values in the scenario properties

rhye, i cant open the second file because i cant get the link to work, i keep typing it in (case sensitive and all) and i keep getting the same website that says "404 error" or something and is in a language that i dont know, so im really lost. can you pm me the link? or if not email would work and ill give that to you.

(Edit: how embarrassing, the second i post this i finally get it to work... so nevermind, but thanks anyway)

PS, do i submit all at once or should i send my first 2 saves right away?

Rhye, do we really have to wait until late August for the (top) results? ...

rhye, i cant open the second file

see post #101

EDIT:
Now then, about the RGC goals.

They won't be changed.
Not enough people agrees, and the competition credibility is far more important than a balancement issue.

When the results will be posted, I'll post here the alternative rating that would have been in that case.



I've decided to follow UWS's suggestion and I'm sending a proposal of change to every submitter.

This is the text:

we (the RGC Team) would like to know your opinion about our proposal of a slight change of the RGC3 goals.
Since the earliest submissions, we've noticed that some of the goals were impossible (such as "Control the Pyramids") and that Part2 was counting too much compated to Part1 in terms of points.

So, we would like to tune the scores a bit with your approval, as this would be retroactive. It will apply to both who has already submitted and who hasn't yet. The files would be updated accordingly.


THESE WOULD BE REMOVED
-Control all the 7 Ancient Wonders of the World at the end of the game = 40pts
-Build the Great Library = 30pts
-Control the Mausoleum of Mausollos = 30pts
-Control the Pyramids = 30pts


THESE WOULD BE CHANGED

-Greeks eliminated by 1300BC = 120pts INSTEAD OF 80
-Control cities in top 5 list at the end of the game = 10pts per city INSTEAD OF 5
-Game score bonus = 1pt per 5 game score points INSTEAD OF 1pt per 10
-Build a mine on a source of Orichalcum = 15pts each INSTEAD OF 30
-Settler safe in the victory location = 80pts each INSTEAD OF 100
-MALUS: -10pts per each time the final savegame has been reloaded INSTEAD OF -5

Please keep in mind that the potential winner isn't changing with these tunings.


If it is OK for you, please reply with "I agree" either by mail or here in the forum.
The proposal wll pass if I have 50%+1 of the sumbitters (so, 8)

when will the results be posted?

the 21st :)
:goodjob: Can't wait! School starts then, too.

SilverKnight

the results are posted!

Congrautulations, Barak! :king:

That was a great challenge, Rhye. I only played the one time (my submission), but I think I'll give it another go- just for fun- now that I've forgotten most of it! :)

SilverKnight

I liked the 2 part nature. My part 2 score was hindered by losing one of my great heros to a Hydra :sad:

Looking forward to playing RGC4!

Now that its over could someone post the files for the two parts? I want to play it on my own.

Congratulations, Barak! :goodjob:
Did you play a peaceful Part 1?

Great job Barak!!!!

now that the contest is over, let me show how the final classification would have been with the proposed changes:


BARAK 436,4 940 1426,4
DANGER BIRD 655 655 1360
GUNNAR KRUEGER 428,2 860 1338,2
V. SOMA 330,4 940 1320,4
KING COLTRANE 237,8 1055 1292,8
KARMINA 492 740 1282
RIKER 409 810 1269
BLACKBEARD 212,4 995 1257,4
STILE 424,6 730 1204,6
MEDWYNN 250,4 875 1175,4
WINTERFELL 435,6 680 1165,6
SILVERKNIGHT 282,2 755 1087,2
JEFF1787 338,2 695 1083,2
STAGNATE 148,8 185 333,8

instead of


BARAK 428,2 1145 1623,2
V. SOMA 325,2 1140 1515,2
DANGER BIRD 607,5 825 1482,5
KING COLTRANE 228,9 1250 1478,9
BLACKBEARD 211,2 1210 1471,2
GUNNAR KRUEGER 419,1 980 1449,1
RIKER 399,5 990 1439,5
STILE 417,3 890 1357,3
KARMINA 416 875 1341
WINTERFELL 425,3 820 1295,3
MEDWYNN 220,2 1015 1285,2
SILVERKNIGHT 256,1 875 1181,1
JEFF1787 274,1 815 1139,1
STAGNATE 114,4 235 349,4

the result is the same. I am a loser

the result is the same. I am a loser

hahaha that isn't true.

In fact, before Barak sumbmission, Blackbeard, Danger Bird, you, Soma and another one I don't remember have been the 1st.
Then, due to the modifiers (+100,50,25 to the highest score, +100,50,25 to the earliest score, etc.), the following submissions altered the order again and again).

but only because i finished the game first...

Congratulations, Barak! :goodjob:
Did you play a peaceful Part 1?

Yes, in part 1, I played a peaceful game trying my best to build the wonders. I did not make a beeline for sailing, so couldn't get troops onto the continent soon enough to conquor land.

Part 2 for me was all about survival. Early on I tried to kill as many Hydra and centaurs as I could, but after losing a hero, tried my best to survive, build my mines and get my settlers home.

Now this is just odd. On rhye's website with a window in the news of the civfanatics thread. Interesting feature Rhye.

Anyway, is it possible to grant access to both parts so we can play it recreationally now? I joined in the challenge but never had the chance to actually play. I still want to (at least for fun) but was curious if part 2 would still be available.

http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/MC/RGC3P1.zip
http://rhyesciv.uw.hu/MC/RGC3_p2.zip

Thank you Rhye!

So how's the RGC4 coming along? Just thought I'd ask, morbid curiosity only. I LOVED RGC3 for the short, time-driven challenge, just so ya know... ;)

SilverKnight

So how's the RGC4 coming along? Just thought I'd ask, morbid curiosity only. I LOVED RGC3 for the short, time-driven challenge, just so ya know... ;)

SilverKnight

there are two ideas for rgc4. One is very similar to rgc2, the other is more similar to rgc3. The latter is more likely to be chosen.

In any case, I'll begin preparing it hopefully after mid-september, because the civ4 stuff has the priority and it's taking all of my time.

With the approach of my 200th post and the release of Civ IV, I've decided to quit deluding myself and just drop out of college. Astrophysics is fun, and gives me something to do at 3 and 8 AM, but Civ is life. No joke, I'm going to study at a Buddhist monestary, become one with my inner Civ, and hone my modding skills for Civ IV. I await it with great anticipation. Om, mani padme hum... :worship:

Grr... can't... hold out... much... longer...
SilverKnight

:bump:

I hate double-posting, but just so no one keeps freaking out about RGC4, we have at least one confirmed tester (yours truly), and V. Soma mentioned he wouldn't mind testing, as well. The more people that help, the quicker we can get RGC4 rolling before Civ 4 gets here, if anyone's still interested in helping a good cause. :)

SilverKnight