Attached is a 16-nation Europe mod pack. Tested on version 1.16. Of course, there could be some issues, so please don't hesitate to email me so I can fix them. There's a readme.txt in the zip, please read before installing and ALWAYS BACKUP FILES.

Here's the full list:

RUSSIA
scientific/expansionist; Catherine; Mig Fighter (same as American F-15)

FRANCE
industrious/commercial; Joan d'Arc; Musketeer

ENGLAND
industrious/expansionist; Elizabeth; Man-O-War

GREECE
scientific/commerical; Alexander; Hoplite

GERMANY
militaritic/scientific; Bismarck; Panzer

ITALY (ROME)
militaritic/commerical; Caesar; Legionary

SPAIN (PERSIA)
religious/expansionist; Phillip; Conquistador (5.3.2 Knight)

SWEDEN (IROQUOIS)
industrious/scientific; Gustav Vasa; Longship (1.1.4.2 Galley, can't sink)

HOLLAND (AMERICA)
scientific/commercial; William of Orange; VOC Galleon (1.2.5.5 Galleon)

PORTUGAL (BABYLON)
expansionist/commercial; Henry the Navigator; Caravella (1.2.4.4 Caravel, can't sink)

POLAND (INDIA)
scientific/religious; Casimir; Husaria (4.4.2 Knight)

SCOTLAND (EGYPT)
militaritic/religious; Mary Stuart; Highlander (2.1.1 Warrior)

YUGOSLAVIA (CHINA)
industrious/religious; Josip Tito; Partisan (5.6.2 Rifleman)

LITHUANIA (AZTECS)
religious/commercial; Gediminas; Mounted Warrior (same as Iroquois Mounted Warrior)

UKRAINE (JAPAN)
militaristic/industrious; Bogdan Khmelnitzky; Cossack (same as Russian Cossack)

TURKEY (ZULU)
militaritic/expansionist; Suleyman; Janesairy (same as Persian Immortal)

I also replaced the useless Longevity wonder with the Eiffel Tower. The requirement for the Eiffel Tower is steel and it functions just like a modern Great Library, except that it doesn't expire.

A few comments because I know these questions might arise:
Denmark/Switzerland/Ireland/insert-nation-here are not in the patch because I have only 16 nations to work with. Turkey is in the patch because they are a huge part of European history, plus they are located partly in Europe (and play in UEFA, for all that's worth). I realize the Longship should really be Norwegian as Swedes were not really explorers, but I always wanted to play with fast unsinking triremes (err, galleys) and I did not put Norway in the patch. The Highlander unit is a copy of the Aztec Jaguar Warrior because the latter looks like he wears a skirt (I mean kilt). The Lithuania Mounted Warrior is just like the Iroquois' because Lithuanians did use mounted archers.

This is now version 1.1, 1.0 removed after 750 downloads.

Hmm any plans to even this out and maybe get the other Civs? :( Im American and im starting to feel a little left out heh cant you throw a few new things to everyone else to?

Looks like a great mod. One thing I would suggest is adding a new units_32.pcx showing the icons for all these different unit you added to the mod. I know you are using the same icon but since these are UU to the specific Civ you got to add them as new unit. And when adding unit, Civ3 will always assume that the era icon for Leader/worker/settler/army is the last 8 icons. So Civ3 will move down the line when you add new units.(eg. move 3 space down if you add 3 new units) This will mess up the icon in production que, city view, advisor view etc when it comes to a new era starting from Middle Age. Doesn't affect the game play but the production que, advisor screen etc will show blank icon for workers etc.

Just thought of letting you know ;)

Hmm, it seems to work fine for me. Perhaps because I just overwrote the old special units with the new ones?

Originally posted by KALIROB2k2
Hmm any plans to even this out and maybe get the other Civs? :( Im American and im starting to feel a little left out heh cant you throw a few new things to everyone else to?

Well, this is not called "Europe mod" for nothing. :)

Sounds like an interesting scenario.. cant wait to try.

I would have a few different civs though:

same:

England
Scotland
France
Germany
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Holland
Russia
Poland
Sweden
Turkey

changes:

Serbia - I would use the Serbs to represent the slavic peoples rather than Yugoslavia. Serbia has existed almost as long as Europe has and still is here and has a very distinct role in European history. Yugoslavia existed for about 46 years and was a political entity only. The Serbs always did dream of a "Greater Serbia" encorporating all of the slavs in middle/southern europe.

Crimea/Georgia/Tartars: some sort of caucus nation to represent the muslim nations that existed in that region up until the Russians swallowed them up in the 18th and 19th centuries. These states were up for fierce competition between the Russians and the Turks for centuries and would put in an interesting play dynamic in that area. (the cossack could still be a UU then) I think this would be a good counterbalance on the Turks western flank as well.

Hungary - was very powerful for several centuries in central Europe and is a very unique culture (could even be called Austria-Hungary to represent the Hapsburg Empire and the Austrians. I wouldnt put both Austria and Hungary in as separate civs. It would be too cluttered in central Europe)

Baltic States - this might be a better reprentation of the many nations that existed in that area. Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Tutonic Knights, and several others. Their location would be a great source of conflcit between the Swedes, Poles, and Russians (as it was in history)

I would get rid of Lituania and Ukraine:

For several centuries, Poland-Lithuania existed as a VERY strong kingdom and could be represented well as either Poland, Lithuania, or Poland-Lithuania.

Ukraine, while being a very distinct culture and having a few times of indenpendance, the majority of the history, they have been part of Poland, Lithuania, Russia, and the Ottoman Empire. I also think that this area would be a bit too crowded and of all the civis in tha area, Poland, Baltic States (or Lithuania), and Russia, Ukraine makes the most sense as the one to take out.

Soooo.. this is just my opinion.. no one get offended...

Is North Africa included on the map? If so... another African civ might be a good one instad of the baltic states or a caucus civ.

Any thoughts?

Originally posted by Luca Brasi


Well, this is not called "Europe mod" for nothing. :)

Heh Well its just a lil hope. :) Its like not gettin invited to a party... well not really I guess lol

Maybe I should try making an Asian mod :)

Originally posted by homer
[B]Sounds like an interesting scenario.. cant wait to try.


Serbia vs Yugoslavia: valid point. Except Tito can't be Serb, he can only be Yugoslav. I didn't want to put Serbia because it's not a fully independant country right now, but then again, neither is Scotland. So I'll replace Yugo by Serbia with Stefan Nemanja with title of Grand Zupan instead of Tito.

Crimea/Georgia: Georgia (and Armenia) are NOT Muslim. They're Christian.

Baltic States: Estonia was always much closer to Scandinavia then to Latvia and Lithuania. And Latvia is very Germanic, with Lithuania of course being very closely tied to Poland. I guess having both Poland and Lithuania is redundant, so putting Hungary in for one of them would make sense. But then, I was born in Lithuania, so... :)

Ukraine: I agree completely. But they do have a lot of land right now.

georgia and armenian are christian definitely but they have large ethnic groups of Turks and Azeris respectiviely.

Tatars are Turkic btw. buw why put either of them in theyre not european theyre the complete opposite (just an opinion)

Oooo! An Asian MOD would be fab! Also so an Africa MOD or perhaps a North/South American MOD? With the Aztecs and the Incas and stuff.

Originally posted by leonel
Oooo! An Asian MOD would be fab! Also so an Africa MOD or perhaps a North/South American MOD? With the Aztecs and the Incas and stuff.

I'm working on an American mod right now.

You could name it then Lithuania-Poland and opposed to the historical name.. it IS your mod ya know! :)

After more reflection, I would call Hungary "Austria-Hungary". While not really a single "civ", it would encorporate two very important European civs into one, and both civs did eventually end up into one political entity for a period of time with very significant political and military influence in Europe. I think this would be a good balance for game play. I can imagine a European scenario without the Ausrians and they were a major player for sooooo long in Europe... and for a few centuries, the Hungarian horsemen ruled central europe. Just a thought.

Wasnt Tito a Serb? Or was he a Croat? hmmm.. my memory fails me on this one... but i still think Serbia is better than Yugo.

You are correct on Geoergia and Armenia.. they are Christian, but wasnt the Crimea musilm? I know the Ottoman Turks had their eyes on the the Crimea for quite some time for that reason.. but again.. but could be mistaken.

I saw another mod where the mod maker "disabled" a few civs for realism.. pehaps you could to this with a civ on the eastern turk-russian frontier.. perhaps the Golden Horde or some other entity from that area.. would be a good fight and a historically accurate game feature I think. I think there should be something in that region... but just cant figure out quite what.

Also.. I dont know where your map ends.. does it go east to the Caspian sea? Is N. Africa included? If it is.. then there should definately be a N.African civ in there.

There's no map in the mod, you can play on whatever map you want.

Tito was a Croat.

As for combining nations, I really don't like that... Killing the Austrians is just not the same as killing the "Austro-Hungarians". But that said, I'll probably replace Lithuania with Hungary in the next release.

Originally posted by homer

Hungary - was very powerful for several centuries in central Europe and is a very unique culture (could even be called Austria-Hungary to represent the Hapsburg Empire and the Austrians. I wouldnt put both Austria and Hungary in as separate civs. It would be too cluttered in central Europe)



In fact I was wondering.....Lituania and not Austria??
Austrian civ have been breaking our balls for centuries!!! :) (just think of early XIX century)

Lithuania was once the largest country in Europe, stretching from the North Baltic to the Crimea. But as I said, since having it with Poland is a bit redundand, I'll probably remove it for Hungary in the next edition.

We have been the soldiers in Swedish uniforms in all their wars! The Finnish culture is alot higher than the Swedish. We have been better soldiers always and
much of our inventions are claimed to be swedish but that's just prpaganda. Little sweds have always been putting us down. So why there's a swede civ but not a Finnish one?
You racist!

There is a thread somewhere on Apolyton describing how to add an additional 15 civilisations without over-writing any of the existing ones.

Have you considered adding civs based on linguistic divisions? You could then have a reason to add at least one civilisation from each branch of the European language family (such as Baltic, Gothic, Albanian/ Illyrian).

If I use the Civ Copy Tool to add civs, that crashes my game. So if that's the way they do it, that won't help much. I'll try to find what they are suggesting, but I'm afraid it's that.

P.S. Stay tuned for my "European nations which no one give a rat's ass about" patch starring Finland, Moldavia, Malta, Liechtenstein, and of course, Albania. :)

Originally posted by leonel
Oooo! An Asian MOD would be fab! Also so an Africa MOD or perhaps a North/South American MOD? With the Aztecs and the Incas and stuff.

I, along with another person, will be developing a North American mod soon also. It will be different from Luca's, however, as his takes a Colonial approach. Ours will be all pre-columbian first nations (the working idea is to conquer NA before 1492).

We could also use some help (Particularily from someone with artistic ability, although if you just want to help with research that would be OK too). Anyone interested go to http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12872

Glad to see fellow countryman, who woke up to the idea of including mighty medieval Lithuania into the list of European powers. Since Civ3 spans through ages, you might include another special unit, appearing in 1980s, that is "basketball player" :). And don't even think about striking Lithuania out for the sake of latvias and albanias of the world!

In MY version (not the one posted here), Sabonis is on the list of heros :)

Great looking mod! It's about time somebody accounts for some of the smaller, yet just as historically important civilizations in history!

The Swedish special unit should, according to the opinions of Swedish posters, be a mobile cannon or a dragoon.

Transport ships are not that good as special units because they must win a battle to trigger a golden age.

To please A. H. one should make a patch with only three civs - Finland, Sweden and the Rest of the World. Finland would have all imaginable advantages. Sweden would be really bad, and unable to increase its population (for reasons known to A. H. and his friends). Then A. H. could let his aggressions on virtual Swedes instead of real ones, but that is another story.

Originally posted by Optimizer
(..)To please A. H. one should make a patch with only three civs - Finland, Sweden and the Rest of the World. Finland would have all imaginable advantages. Sweden would be really bad, and unable to increase its population (for reasons known to A. H. and his friends). Then A. H. could let his aggressions on virtual Swedes instead of real ones, but that is another story.

You seem to be a good expert of finnish culture :goodjob:
Right, if you wanna have Sweden+Finland as "Sweden", then you should have Denmark+Norway as "Denmark".
But, you could also just scrap that and put "Vikings" As Norway+Denmark+Sweden",
and melt the Finland inside "Russia".

Just to make it more confusing.

(..)and unable to increase its population (for reasons known to A. H. and his friends)(..)
You really are expert on finnish 'humor', arent you ;) :D

For those who asked me how to play this on Aanar's Map with correct stating locations:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14541

CPF File (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=163770)

Just uploaded version 1.1, after 750 downloads of 1.0. Renamed Yugoslavia to Serbia. Added cities and leaders.

When you start talking about Yugoslavia things just cant be simple. Yugoslavia consisted of 6 countries (Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Serbia). Montenegro is probably the oldest, Bosnia under Tvrtko was the only one that covered more than half the teritory of what later became Yugoslavia, Croatia was very important part of Austro-hungarian empire and played a very important role in the area in WW2 and kept a strong border with Otoman empire for centuries, Slovenia is the most succesfull nowdays... Serbia was also important throughout the history but only as Yugoslavia these six countries gained some real significance. This may be coming little too late but I vote for Tito and Yugoslavia.

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SWEDEN (IROQUOIS)
industrious/scientific; Gustav Vasa; Longship (1.1.4.2 Galley, can't sink)
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I guess this quite funny/ironic as the swedish flagship "Wasa" sunk like 15 minutes after it was put to sea. LOL!

Do you know of a Europe map that sets the countries up in the right places? If you do could you either post it here or post where to get it from.
Thanks.

Originally posted by ItalianStallion
Do you know of a Europe map that sets the countries up in the right places? If you do could you either post it here or post where to get it from.
Thanks.

Go here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=12327

thanks:)

about sweden.

first, gustav vasa was like a swedish george washington, but most persons with large interest in history agrees with me that gustav II adolf is the greatest and most famous leader sweden ever had.

second, the longship doesn´t suit the swedes, because it was the danish and norweigan vikings that traveled west when the the swedish went south east.

but, you are free to use my mod.:D a second version of it is on the way.

Ukraine, while being a very distinct culture and having a few times of indenpendance, the majority of the history, they have been part of Poland, Lithuania, Russia, and the Ottoman Empire. I also think that this area would be a bit too crowded and of all the civis in tha area, Poland, Baltic States (or Lithuania), and Russia, Ukraine makes the most sense as the one to take out.

I think the Ukraine is a good idea, because it could represent all the people of the steppes who had influenced so much of Europes history. Plus if you got rid of the Ukraine it would not reduce the crowding in the northern part of that area, where Poland, Russia, and the Baltics are, so it would make the most sense to get rid of the Baltics. This would put some even space between Poland Russia and the Ukraine. No offense to anyone from the Baltics, but they haven't had as much impact on history as Poland, Russia, or the various peoples of the steppes (yes I know Lithuania had its moments, but so did all of them).

Hi there,
the idea of continental specific mods is great :goodjob: ,
but hystorically the leader and the specific unit for Italy in the Europe mod is not correct. Caesar and the legion were Roman, not Italian, at least as we mean it today. So as an Italian leader I would suggest either king Victor Emanuel II, the first king of the Italian Kingdom proclaimed in 1861, or general Giuseppe Garibaldi, a key player in unification of the Country serving under Victor Emanuel.
As a specific unit I would suggest either the Alpini (alpine troups) or the Bersaglieri. The choice is not easy since both are glorious units in real life. Personally I would choose the Bersaglieri since they constituted the army of king Victor Emanuel and they were the first soldiers entering in Rome in 1870 through a breach in the defensive wall, thus conquering the city and giving the young kingdom its rightful capital.
Cheers.

Originally posted by animepornstar

first, gustav vasa was like a swedish george washington, but most persons with large interest in history agrees with me that gustav II adolf is the greatest and most famous leader sweden ever had.


I don't think every Swede would agree about that. Gustav II Adolf were a leader of wartimes. Gustav Vasa was what you could call a "landsfader" (father of land) who at sometimes counts as the one person who created modern Sweden. Yeah, I kknow this is mainly an opinion about personal view but still. Then we have some element who surely would like to claim Karl XII as the greatest leader of Sweden :king:

I've clicked on the link that you've posted, but it only takes me to the top of this page. I've downloaded your mod but Italy still sets up in Russia. Is this just my game or is this a mistake? If this is a mistake please could you tell me where it should take me to. Anyway, I definately agree with Cincinnatus that Caesar is not the Italian leader and I think it would be great if you could do what he said.
Thanks again.

Italy should never set up as Russia, Italy is in the place of Rome. You're probably not doing something right, email me and I'll walk you through it.

Originally posted by Luca Brasi
If I use the Civ Copy Tool to add civs, that crashes my game. So if that's the way they do it, that won't help much. I'll try to find what they are suggesting, but I'm afraid it's that.

P.S. Stay tuned for my "European nations which no one give a rat's ass about" patch starring Finland, Moldavia, Malta, Liechtenstein, and of course, Albania. :)

Hey! I care about Malta! :-)

Well, it´s not too difficult to change the civs, so if I ever wanted to play Malta, I could create the civ myself. Just couldn´t let that comment of yours stand alone.

The Scottish UU, highlander is 2-1-1...

why???

What weapons are they using exactly?

What period in history do you imagine them existing in?

You seem to have them down as a stone-age or bronze-age unit.
There was no Scottish nation during this period. Scotland only emerged as a Kingdom in the middle ages.

Highlanders became truely prominent in the British Empire which would make them Riflemen or something....

I tried to e-mail you, but I can't...I haven't your e-mail ;)

Hey I have just downloaded the LOTR mod, the WW2 mod and now your mod I'd just like to know if I can use all these at the same time (not in the same game, but have all those instaled), for exemple have a geme in Maras world map another saved in the WW2 mod, etc...
I don't know if those mods change the grafics of the units and standar game rules...

So can I??

And are you (Luca Brasi) a brazilian like me???

Luca, are you still working on this? If not, I'd love to work on it myself, despite only ever being in Europe once (Scotland).

I've made many modifications already, and have gotten the special units completly integrated with the upgrade path. I'm going to replace Lithuania with Hungary and probably Portugal with possibly Ireland. If you don't reply soon, I'll assume you don't visit the message board anymore and continue to work on it.

Originally posted by Elfstorm

The Scottish UU, highlander is 2-1-1...

why???

What weapons are they using exactly?

What period in history do you imagine them existing in?

You seem to have them down as a stone-age or bronze-age unit.
There was no Scottish nation during this period. Scotland only emerged as a Kingdom in the middle ages.

Highlanders became truely prominent in the British Empire which would make them Riflemen or something....

Elfstorm has a point. The Highlander should probably be a musketeer with a treat all terrain as road function as the Highlander is most effective as a unit between the age of Gustavus Adolphus and Culloden(1746).

Originally posted by calgacus
Originally posted by Elfstorm



Elfstorm has a point. The Highlander should probably be a musketeer with a treat all terrain as road function as the Highlander is most effective as a unit between the age of Gustavus Adolphus and Culloden(1746).

Yeah, your spot on. Since I made that last post I've done a bit more reading and everything I've come across supports your assesment exactly.

One book even said the period between Gustavus and Culloden was a scottish military "golden age!"

The unit should certainly have the treat all terrain as road function (allowing you to simulate the highland charge) only question is what other stats should it have?

Good attack - poor defence? This would seem to be in keeping with Scottish performances on the battlefield. Any suggestions?

I'm not an expert on early modern military history, but I would think that a 5-3-1 strength with a treat all terrain as road function would not be unfair. Similar units such as the musketeer(3-4-1) and riflemen (4-6-1) have this kind of strength.

PS: what nationality are you elfstorm?

Now we know that there is going to be an expansion pack, what will the European civs should the XP civs be edited to become?

RUSSIA
FRANCE
ENGLAND
GREECE
GERMANY
ITALY
SWEDEN
HOLLAND
PORTUGAL
POLAND
SCOTLAND
YUGOSLAVIA
LITHUANIA
UKRAINE
TURKEY
SPAIN
VIKINGS
CELTS

so, there is still 6 (possibly 7 new civs if the Turks are included)
why not, after changing the Yugoslavs into Serbs and the Vikings into Norwegians , have

Czechs
Finns
Hungarians
Croats
Irish
Danes

and the Welsh (King Arthur as leader!) if the Turks are there.
I also wouldn't mind seeing a Basque civ. I've noticed that the focus seems to be on modern nations rather than ancient civs, so the Celts could be converted into the Irish, Scottish or Welsh and mybe the Basques could be included. The list would then be:

Germany
France
Russia
England
Spain
Italy
Greece
the Turks
Portugal
Scotland
Sweden
Ukraine
Serbia
the Czechs
Ireland
Lithuania
Hungary
Poland
Denmark
Norway
Hungary
Finland
Wales
Vasconia

It just a suggestion...if anyone gets around to doing the tedious editing.

where is austria

how to download thia game

Originally posted by aska26
where is austria

where is latvia :P

Originally posted by Crazy Rick


where is latvia :P

WHERE THE HELL IS LEICHENSTEIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pls include some of the important civ like asutria

PLS INCLUDE AUSTRIA

Originally posted by aska26
PLS INCLUDE AUSTRIA

I would have to say that Austria was pretty darn important for a long time.

you don't have to post it 3 times, no matter how important austria was, and besides if you want austria that much why don't you just create it?

i have no european map and i have downloaded marla's map and it did not work i have ver 1.07 and what version is this

What about Wales?

Only 1% of the armenian population is not christian. No turks or azeris live in armenia anymore due to the fact that they are at war (they are in the middle of a 6 year long cease fire)

Dont delete Lithuania :). It was one of the top countrys in 1410~ not just the largest european country. And the greatest ruler of Ltihuania was Vytautas.

And 1 more thing i liked the mod but now i want to get back to original countrys how to do that?

what version?

Dont delete Lithuania :). And the greatest ruler of Ltihuania was Vytautas.


No ... I know why Lithuanians think that ... he's a nationalist hero; but Gediminas and Mindaugas are better candidates.

You need to put denmark into this game, they are very important( more than sweden, they have done nothing to history:D).

We have been the soldiers in Swedish uniforms in all their wars! The Finnish culture is alot higher than the Swedish. We have been better soldiers always and
much of our inventions are claimed to be swedish but that's just prpaganda. Little sweds have always been putting us down. So why there's a swede civ but not a Finnish one?
You racist!

Racist? Not quite. Let's take a look at why Sweden was included and Finland was not...
Sweden has existed as a sovereign entity, uninterrupted, since before the Christian invasion. This makes it easy to model a Civ 3 -style civilisation from it.
Before the Swedish conquest, Finland didn't exist as a separate country. There were local polities, but no single political entity to govern them. The state of Finland didn't exist until the 20th century.

Civ 3 is a very war-oriented game and downplays the importance of infrastructure and the complexity of society. This means that countries with a long history of warfare are the most "Civ-worthy". Sweden was a major power with colonial aspirations, giving the modmaker a range of distinctive flavour units or UUs.
Finns did have a good kill record against Viking invaders in the Iron Age, but their campaigns were always limited to protecting their homes. During its history as a province and grand duchy, Finland produced some troops of note, but they were all modeled on foreign military doctrine. In a Civ 3 sense, the most flavourful units emerged only after its independence (the Ski Trooper is the only plausible choice for a Finnish UU: Infantry with Movement 2 and an extra Hit Point).

So, you see, even though modern Finland has more leverage on European matters than, for example, Lithuania or Serbia, it has been a backward and remote province for most of its history. Unless making a modern-day scenario, including Finland doesn't make much sense.

Thanks for the custom mod. I have taken German side, year is 1930 and i have Poland, Czechoslovakia, Rumenia and sNorway. There are 14 of AIs left. Grecce just parked it's tanks on my teritory so bombing and war is in order.

Why does it take literaly 30 minutes for every turn?

uh way to bump!