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Whomp
Jul 16, 2005, 01:31 AM
Hi everyone.





















Lets use this thread for some team discussion.

First things first.
We need a team name. This is not my team it's our team. Any thoughts?

On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.

One major difference in this game is we won't be able to manipulate humans the way we manipulate the AI. I think we'll be on a small map with 4 human opponents. It will get bloody early.

To start the discussions.
What civ would you like to play ranked 1-3?
I think the ag. trait is really huge.
1.Iroquois-- best 1st techs IMO, huge UU and great traits
2. Celts--pottery, gahmungous UU, and religious may have some benefit with short anarchy.
3. Mayans-- good 1st techs, average UU and good traits.
After that I would lean towards Aztecs over the Dutch on continents and pangea.
The Dutch start same as Iroquois on techs, UU is less interesting vs. humans and Seafaring may be worthless.
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The next most important tech to me is wheel after alpha and pot. Finding horses is huge.

Anything is open for discussion so post away.

soul_warrior
Jul 16, 2005, 04:56 AM
K.I.S.S. (Killer Intelligence Space Ship) is fine.
St. Simeon'sis another option (aka Simeaon the fool ;))
check out the holy dude (http://ship-of-fools.com/Simeon/)
featherhead for supreme power :king:

Pentium
Jul 16, 2005, 06:43 AM
There's only 7 of us, so I don't think we can have a hierarchy. KISS is the best!

Iroquis seem the best option for me, being AGR and having Alpha, with a very good UU.

Regarding the name, anything about Fools/Idiots/other stupid people is good. :D

Ginger_Ale
Jul 16, 2005, 07:16 AM
One note that RegentMan and I have decided on (before this thread was open, we aren't trying to limit you guys) is that only 2 of your top 3 civs can be AGR. We don't want this game to be an AGR-fest with everybody's 3 civs being IRO, CEL, SUM, etc...

Once we get a few more signups we will release the ruleset for any last minute changes and to see if everyone agrees.

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 16, 2005, 10:09 AM
What about Team K.I.S.S.? :)

I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.

I've always loved the Celtic UU, though.

Or we could be completely different and be someone like the Mongols. The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat. :lol:

Pentium
Jul 16, 2005, 10:19 AM
I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.This satement would be perfectly normal if you didn't have them is your name. :)

The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat. :lol:We could be Americans....

But I think Germany is a decent civ. Militaristic is good for MP, and we'll probably be the only SCI civ in the game. It'll ne easier to lead in techs, so we'll have superior units. And if we stand until IA, we have the game. :D

Edit: Plus, it starts with BW. We'd have swords after only 1 tech!

Edit 2: K.I.S.S. => Stupid It-Simple Keepers?

Ginger_Ale
Jul 16, 2005, 10:29 AM
Just finished actually reading your post...


On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.


All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.

Or is that not what you were saying?

Pentium
Jul 16, 2005, 10:34 AM
I think you read it right. We'll have a KISS system.

BTW: I actually think Team K.I.S.S. is a good name.

Bede
Jul 16, 2005, 11:29 AM
K.I.S.S is good.

Iro and Celts are killers. England is fun too if we ever get to MOW.

Sir Bugsy
Jul 16, 2005, 04:25 PM
I agree with my brother Bede. Iro, Celts and English in that order. How about team Grumpy?

soul_warrior
Jul 16, 2005, 04:55 PM
honourable sirs....
i would really, no REALLY like to play liz again...
after the humiliation i (we) have suffered in SW1, i need revenge!!!!

ps - if we want to make is even (that means easier on our rivals) why not pick Portugal?
underhanded, but if we pull this off, alll the more glory to us!

Whomp
Jul 16, 2005, 06:16 PM
Just finished actually reading your post...
All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.
Or is that not what you were saying?
Yeah that's what I'm meant GA. We will always have someone to play the save but I don't think we need a president/dictator dude or anything.

OK Ginger Ale said two ag and one non ag. Playing on small maps I would say we want an early UU so I'd vote.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persians
I think Militaristic and Seafaring are zero help in this type of game and my concern with the English is whether we'd see a GA.

Stupid is as stupid does. Team Big Idiots and Grumps? B.I.G or K.I.S.S. work for me? I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.

BTW let's not overestimate ourselves yet. None of us have PBEM skills or human vs. human experience from what I know.

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 16, 2005, 06:57 PM
I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.
I know I don't. *is 17* ;)

Stupid is as stupid does.
Are you implying we should call ourselves Team Gump? :lol:

Those 3 civs sound good, Whomp. They all have early UUs, and they're all great UUs.

Whomp
Jul 16, 2005, 07:03 PM
A few other questions. We need a UN rep to bring back our team's responeses. Why don't I go ahead and act as our rep on this to K.I.S.S.
Do we have a color we'd like?
We need to pick 5 civs and only 2 of the first 3 can be ag. Here are mine.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Aztecs
5. Sumerians
How about the start? My thoughts are bold
Water %? 60%
Land Form? Could we get it so the continents have a coastal link?
AIs?No
Difficulty Level (for # of content citizens)?Emporer
Map Size (I am leaning towards small or tiny - no bigger than standard)?Tiny or small
Barbarians?No
Age? 4 Bill
Climate? normal
Temperature? normal

Another key question: do you want SoZ? If so, should it require Ivory? No from me but it's cuz I hate Wonders.
Should it produce Horsemen instead of ACs? No[/B]Any custom changes? I would like to have a way to reach the other continent early.
SGLs? On / off? Off

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 16, 2005, 07:10 PM
I've always like the Roman red.

The Civ choices I agree with.

I agree with Continents with a way for galleys to cross. Otherwise the diplomacy won't get interesting until late Middle Ages (and some Teams may be dead by then).

About AIs, personally I'd like to see one or two, but from what I've seen, no one else agrees with me. :sad:

SGLs and Barbs I agree should be off. If someone got lucky with a Leader or Goody Hut, they make take over the game.

Everything doesn't make a difference to me.

Bede
Jul 16, 2005, 09:08 PM
I'm a random kind of player so civ choices are always left up to the computer.

Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Continents with 60% water should make for reasonable diplomatic opportunities on standard or small maps.

Normal temp, damp climate, old world are my usual choices but I sense that there may be some differences in play here that I cannot account for.

Emperor is a good solid difficulty level.

SGL's and barbs off.

Whomp
Jul 16, 2005, 09:32 PM
Hopefully Sesn will post here soon and Darwin's band is rocking the whole state of Maine right now so maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.

Bede--I think the admins will determine randomly who were are located next to. I know a map has been requested.

Seems we have some consensus on Iroquois and Celts.
For #3
Bede, Bugs and SW like the English.
Pentium digs the Germans
and
IP and I like Persia.
Also we may need a 4th or 5th civ. I need to clarify whether these can be a ag civ after the first 2 of 3 are ag.

On the map we all agree SGLs and barbs off. SoZ?
Continents with a route would be nice. Smallish.

Bede likes an old world and after thinking about the mongering skills of this club I lean that way too. I think it could give us a bit of an edge.

Red it is unless someone objects.

Team K.I.S.S. or Team Grump or B.I.G.?

Ginger_Ale
Jul 16, 2005, 09:43 PM
Whomp: You cannot have your list of 5 be: AGR, AGR, AGR, NON-AGR, NON-AGR - only 2 of the first 3 can be AGR (and 1 more of the next 2 if you have a list of 5).

It seems this team has come to agree upon Continents, 60% water on a small (?) map - temperate climate, 3 billion, and wet? Please discuss.

Also, what about barbarians?


Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Your opponents are following the same process, selecting the top 3 or top 5 civs they would like to be.

soul_warrior
Jul 16, 2005, 10:12 PM
what is your favorite colour? RED!
what is your quest? to K.I.S.S
what is your country like? i dont care!

wrong answer :sniper: :spank:

Whomp
Jul 16, 2005, 10:14 PM
GA I think Bede and I like 5 billion years. No barbs or SGLs. Too random. I still say no on SoZ. Team?

I think the team agrees with Iroquois and Celts. The only question is whether the other teams will also have Iroquois as their #1. Should we have Celts #1?

For #3 we are still in the air so please post your non ag #3 to #5.
I like
Persians
Romans
Japanese

We would like red as our team color.

Sir Bugsy
Jul 16, 2005, 10:50 PM
My number one perference is Iros then Celts.

Older is better.

No SGLs, No SoZ, I prefer Persia then Rome for non-AGR.

Don't give a hoot about color, just as long as all the colors are distinct. Having Iroquois and Portugal both being a shade of purple stinks. We have that in GR7 right now.

Bede
Jul 16, 2005, 11:03 PM
Non Ag
3. England
4. France
5. Korea

No to SoZ, that is another random thingy and AC's generaled by humans are just too overpowering.

Was the thinking on a young world related to terrain defense bonus? If so I confess to being like a cat on a hot tin roof, just plain not sure where to light.

RegentMan
Jul 17, 2005, 01:40 AM
Also, do you want your civ to have a special name? Will it be just your team name? Leader and title are also wanted.

Pentium
Jul 17, 2005, 04:35 AM
Idiot St. Simeon of the K.I.S.S. ?

So no SoZ, no SGL, old world, red color.
I think we should go with Persia as the non-agr civ. UU is just plain killer.

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 10:38 AM
Also, do you want your civ to have a special name? Will it be just your team name? Leader and title are also wanted.
K.I.S.S. seems to be very popular. How about The Idiots with Grumpys of K.I.S.S.? I will be our UN rep for the time being.

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 10:59 AM
Here's what I have so far. Iroquois #1 and Celts #2. No SGLs, no SoZ, no barbs, Continents with access, old world. Our color will be red.
#3 English (Bede, Bugs and SW) , Persians (Pentium and Whomp)
#4 France (Bede), Persians (Bugs) and Romans (Whomp)
#5 Korea (Bede) and Romans (Whomp)

Pentium
Jul 17, 2005, 11:19 AM
K.I.S.S. seems to be very popular. How about The Idiots with Grumpys of K.I.S.S.? I will be our UN rep for the time being.Which one is leader name and which one is title?

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 11:29 AM
I'm a little confused myself. I think leader is who would be the person who communicates in the various discussions and rulesets by the admins. I guess than would be me and my title.....Lead Idiot guy from the nation K.I.S.S....I guess.

I just looked at the ruleset and now I've read we can ask for 2 of 3 ag civs and then 3 of 5 ag civs.
That changes my 3 thru 5 choices.
3. Aztecs
4. Persians
5. Romans
Other than that I don't think we would ever even know how to use any of the other exploits. Read through the thread if you like but to summarize it don't do things like share resources with an ally or share arty and such, don't trade detailed maps without the tech, no espionage outside of the game by looking at other team saves, .
Ship chaining is legal though. I will post more on this if I seem something strange but feel free to look at the ruleset.

SesnOfWthr
Jul 17, 2005, 11:57 AM
Sorry for the delay in checking in guys. The weekends are a tougher time for me during the summer. You know, cookouts, parties, Ozzfest. :rockon:

Iro, Celts, Persia, Rome, English.
No barbs, no SGL, no SoZ.
Emperor, continents, standard size, 5 billion, don't like wet because it's too much jungle/marsh for a game like this.
As far as color, I've always been a fan of the Celts green. :)

EDIT: Can we get a Gene Simmons leaderhead for Team K.I.S.S.? :crazyeye:

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 12:13 PM
FYI Sesn we can add one more ag civ for our 3 through 5. Would you prefer a ag civ in there? I will pm Mistfit for a leam logo. Team K.I.S.S it is.

It looks like this will be our settings. Seems we got everything we wanted.

60% Continents with a possible, safe galley crossing via coast (or 2 tiles of sea), Small Map, Emperor (i.e. 1 free content citizen), no AIs, no SGLs, no barbs, no SoZ, temperate climate, 5 billion years old, normal temperature.

I have a few questions posted in the rulesets.

SesnOfWthr
Jul 17, 2005, 12:40 PM
Ok, sure - swap England for Sumeria then

soul_warrior
Jul 17, 2005, 12:49 PM
whomp, how about we call you - our esteemed leader - Major Idiot, commander of the K.I.S.S. Brigade? :D

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 17, 2005, 12:56 PM
What about Kernel Idiot? :lol:

I'm not sure if I ever posted my final vote for Civs:

1. Iroquios
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Rome
5. Maya

Also:

Darwin's band is rocking the whole state of Maine right now so maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.
Is that so? What's his band's name?

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 01:16 PM
whomp, how about we call you - our esteemed leader - Major Idiot, commander of the K.I.S.S. Brigade? :D
Perfect. :cool: What are all of your names? We need an Idiot Savant.

Is that so? What's his band's name?
With SW, Darwin and Bugs we have quite a musical team here and not to toot my own horn but I've been told I am one of the preeminent air guarists in the Great Lakes region. My leaping reverse windmill move is legendary.

Here is darwin's band page.

http://www.everythinginbetween.us/

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 17, 2005, 01:29 PM
With SW, Darwin and Bugs we have quite a musical team here and not to toot my own horn but I've been told I am one of the preeminent air guarists in the Great Lakes region. My leaping reverse windmill move is legendary.

Here is darwin's band page.

http://www.everythinginbetween.us/
Not exactly my style of music, but cool nonetheless. :) I live about a half hour away from Auburn, though. Small world, indeed. :crazyeye:

As for my name? No idea. :(

RegentMan
Jul 17, 2005, 01:32 PM
What I meant by leader and title...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Leader-Title.JPG

Although feel free to give yourself titles. ;)

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 01:52 PM
I live about a half hour away from Auburn, though. Small world, indeed. :crazyeye:

As for my name? No idea. :(
Well let's see. Here's a few ideas...You could be our "Maine Idiot" or we could reserve that for Darwin and you could be our resident Idiot Civant.
Bugs could be Lefty (Coast) Grumpy and Bede could be Righty (Coast) Grumpy of the Brothers Grump. Pentium could be St. Simeon Idiot, SW DJ Funkalicious Idiot, Sesn could be plain old Johnny Damon.

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 02:07 PM
Do these fit? I can't think very well right now. I'm on the deck with some libations in hand so work with me please.
Name: Dude
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot

RegentMan
Jul 17, 2005, 02:21 PM
Well, it would read "Seriously Grumpy Idiot Dude of the Stupids." Tourists would say "Do you want to head over to the nation of K.I.S.S.?" and they would use the plain old Stupids dollar in your nation.

Look at the screenie I provided and make up some sentences using noun, formal, and adjective (like I did). That'll help you come up with some ideas.

soul_warrior
Jul 17, 2005, 02:26 PM
Do these fit? I can't think very well right now. I'm on the deck with some libations in hand so work with me please.
Name: Dude
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot
a slight correction, if i might...

Name: The Dude!
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot

and the names.... :cooool:

Pentium
Jul 17, 2005, 02:56 PM
Pentium could be St. Simeon Idiot,No no, I didn't come up with that, SW did. I could be Idiot Processor :)

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 03:02 PM
No no, I didn't come up with that, SW did. I could be Idiot Processor :) Done and done.

FYI something I was not aware of is we can't send a save zoomed out (exploit I guess)

I don't know if I'm overreacting here but I don't particularly like this rule.
On rules 0.3.2 and 0.3.3 I would assume any losing team member would not be allowed to offer information to their new team that this team wasn't aware of. Is this correct?

I don't see why they wouldn't be. The refugee can feel free to say something that their new team might not know.

Example: Team A is elminated, and member AA joins Team B. AA knows Team C has a huge stack of knights on Team B's borders. However, Team B has planned for war with Team C for quite a long time and has built up a stack of ten longbows. It would be hard for AA to vote against a declaration of war without revealing the stack of knights.

:hmm: I'm of the opinion "To the Victors Belong the Spoils"--Andrew Jackson.
I would prefer to amend this slightly where a conquered team can not join another team for, say, 7-10 turns. IMO if they are able to join another team it would add some randomness to the game.It might also create a little fun between the teams. Knowing you have to attract refugees somehow without them fleeing to another team will be hard indeed. What do you all think?

SesnOfWthr
Jul 17, 2005, 05:14 PM
Sesn could be plain old Johnny Damon.

Of all the words to describe him, plain and old are probably two of the poorer choices. :p I'm a big Tek fan, personally, but I have a tough time calling him an idiot.

RE: team changing. I don't understand this at all. Why would you join another team if you got eliminated? Someone could conceivably lose repeatedly in the same game. I really think that is unnecessary. IF it's allowed, then there should be a minimum of ten or twenty turns before any spoiler info is allowed. Not to beat a dead horse, but I really don't understand the concept and would vote for people only being allowed on one team for the duration.

Ginger_Ale
Jul 17, 2005, 05:19 PM
Sesn, please see if this rule meets your need (there is no planned time between switching teams once you are eliminated):


"you are not allowed to give out spoiler info that the new team you are on would not know about if you had not joined. If you have to give out spoiler info to prove your case, then do not post / vote in the thread."

Or perhaps we should have it so that you are not allowed to post in your new team's forum, just to read and lurk?

SesnOfWthr
Jul 17, 2005, 05:23 PM
so what - let's say we get eliminated after 40 turns, or whatever. I can't go and just browse the other threads to see what's going on? Is that where the need for a new team arises? I guess I'm mainly confused why I want to join a second team if we lose?

Ginger_Ale
Jul 17, 2005, 05:30 PM
Because of espionage concerns, no, noone is able to view all 4 team forums simultaneously (except RM, myself, and the mods). So you can pick a team to 'lurk' or even discuss with to stay 'in the action'. You do not have to do this, it is merely for your entertainment.

SesnOfWthr
Jul 17, 2005, 05:36 PM
Because of espionage concerns, no, noone is able to view all 4 team forums simultaneously

Ahh, I guess thats the part I'm missing. Unfortunate we have to do this, I guess. Then I would say go back to the ten or twenty turns, or prohibit spoiler info, or whatever. However, if people are intent enough on cheating, they could always use PM's.....

Whomp
Jul 17, 2005, 05:54 PM
My big concern is that someone who loses may be bitter. If they're bitter and vengeful they may do anything in their power to weaken the team that whacked them. Refugees have to walk a ways to get away from their oppressors I think it's fair that a team that loses should have to wait (some turns) before offering any info to their new team. Personally would be ok with GA's amended rule.

BTW I love Johnny Damon, he's sweet. Calling him an idiot was a term of endearment.

soul_warrior
Jul 17, 2005, 10:56 PM
well, first thing...
since were NOT going to lose this is a mute discussion :D

but if some really freakish accident happen, like us losing each and every city, i guess 10 turns of running away is long enough.
after which you could comment on what happened UPTO that 10 turn mark.

and if you lose, well... you lose.
we have some of the cream de la Civ here, and SOMEBODY's got to go, right?
i will be upset if the inconcievable happens, but will just wait for another chance.
(e.g. - losing team members can choose if the want to join a new team or not. they can also decide to quit politics and lurk a team (becoming a citizen, but not a ruler))

Pentium
Jul 18, 2005, 01:33 AM
What do you all think?Like Sesn, I don't think team changing should be allowed at all. If you lose, you lose. Why would someone try to win if he can jump to the winning team whenever he wants?

MeteorPunch
Jul 18, 2005, 05:55 AM
hello fellow idiots! :p GA has given me lurker status for one team, so I chose this one. No comments form me in the thread, but good luck!

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 07:19 AM
Like Sesn, I don't think team changing should be allowed at all. If you lose, you lose. Why would someone try to win if he can jump to the winning team whenever he wants?

Ah, ah, ah, you are missing the point I think. You can only change teams after you are eliminated - not just at any time you like. He can't just "jump to the winning team whenever he wants" - first he has to be eliminated, second he has to know the winning civ, and third he actually has to know who the winning civ is.

Darwin420
Jul 18, 2005, 07:31 AM
"Maine Idiot" ... I like that! :P

I have just read through this entire thread, and the choices and selections seem fine to me. I've never done a game like this before, but I know the team will help me get my feet wet. I'm just looking forward to having a great time, whether we win or, well, win... :D

Pentium
Jul 18, 2005, 07:57 AM
@GA: I didn't miss the point, I just didn't agree with joining another team when you lose. But the rest seem to agree with you, so I think we should allow this.

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 08:01 AM
Whomp and this team:

On page two, post 33, IroquoisPlisken proposed this listing of 5 civs:

1. Iroquios
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Rome
5. Maya

Does everyone agree to this? Or a last minute switch? You would get to be the first civ done with civ selection. ;)

Wow this thread got off topic..

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 08:40 AM
No Ginger Ale. I don't think we've come to a consensus on our 3 to 5.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts

3. English 3 chose as their #3
4. Persia 2 chose #2 and a bunch in other spots.
5. One more ag civ. I said Aztecs/IP said Maya/Sesn said Sumerians so we need a few more votes here. I would suggest we make this our #3. Ags are hard to beat.

SesnOfWthr
Jul 18, 2005, 09:06 AM
I did indeed say Sumeria, but in reality, it doesn't matter that much to me for the number five spot. I've always had good luck with the Maya as well.

Let's just nail it down and make whatever our final choice. One would think that if we can get this done and be the first with a preference, then it shouldn't go down to number five anyhow.

I'd say just go Iro, Celts, England, Maya, Persia, and get the choices submitted.

Pentium
Jul 18, 2005, 09:38 AM
That's good for me.

Now with settings polls, here are my votes:

Small Continents, Normal/Normal/Old, Emperor, and NO to Barbs/SGL's/SoZ

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 18, 2005, 09:46 AM
Actually, with only 4 teams, it CAN'T go down to number 5, right? Or am I missing something? :confused:

And I agree with those settings Pentium, as long as there's safe passage between the two Continents.

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 11:20 AM
@IP yu are correct but Ginger Ale asked for 5 so that's what we should do.
@Pentium all of our map settings seem to be agreed on now all we need is a map. the map is not ready so this game is probably still a little ways away.

I'm probably being a complete arse but what happens if we don't get the Iroquois or Celts? I assume the other teams will want them as well.

We have the opportunity to get another ag civ #3 so I would like to try this one more time and narrow down our decision based on the assumption we won't get our top two and maybe #3. IMO The English will not be taken by any of the other teams so getting them as our #3 would not be a problem. Against human opponents I am concerned about their late GA and if it's against all ags civs it could be a rough start but....

If you don't mind please rank the 3 ag civs below so we can narrow it down to another ag civ. If you don't want a ag civ just put them #5 on the 2nd list.
For me
1. Aztecs--Militaristic is not a good trait but with a cheap UU with good scouting skills, extra movement and potentially could allow us a rush against the other civ on our continent.
2. Sumerians-- Good traits, cheap UU but defensive.
3. Mayans Good traits but a 30 shield UU without barbs, no bombard and doesn't seem to have a lot of value versus swords and horses.

Then rank the ag civ, Persians and English.
For me...
3. Any ag civ.
4. Persians
5. English

I will use a ranking based on your votes to come up with the order.

Mistfit
Jul 18, 2005, 12:09 PM
Quick Questions
- How Many Seriously Grumpy Idiots are there?

- Names of each?

I will of course do you banner :) . I do not however have time to give to another game :(

soul_warrior
Jul 18, 2005, 12:14 PM
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. English
4. Persia
5. Aztecs or Maya (leaning towards Maya)

a ok, whomp?

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 12:27 PM
Thanks SW.

We have 9 of us. The magnificient 7 idiots plus 2 Grumpy Old Men Bede and Bugs.
Confirmed names so far include...
Major Idiot-->me
Maine Idiot-->Darwin
Processor Idiot-->Pentium
Johnny Idiot-- Sesn
Punky Funky Idiot--Soul Warrior

Still a work in progress include...

?? Idiot --> Iroquois Plisken (I like Civant)
?? Idiot lurker --> Meteor Punch
?? Grumpy --> Sir Bugsy (Lefty?)
?? Grumpy --> Bede (Righty?)

SesnOfWthr
Jul 18, 2005, 12:31 PM
Don't really have a problem with whatever, Whomp, Damon is certainly one of the idiots. All I said was that I like Tek more, but I don't really consider him to be much of an idiot, so he wouldn't be as good a fit here.

So there you go, I can just be Johnny Idiot. :D

EDIT: I also thought the AGR could only be 2 of the top 3, and 3 of the top 5, which is where me putting them fourth came from. If we can make all of our top 3 AGR, then so be it. Of the ones left, none really matter. Just give us the Celts or Iro and be done with it. :lol: Don't we get first dibs if we submit our prefs first anyhow?

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 12:44 PM
Only 2 of your first 3 can be AGR, and only 3 of the 5 total can be AGR. The list SW posted is fine.

Is Mayans the final answer?

Sesn: I was planing on using a random number generator, but I'll see.

RegentMan
Jul 18, 2005, 12:48 PM
A random number generator would be the best way. It doesn't force the other teams to rush their discussion simply to get their civ choices out there.

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 12:51 PM
Ginger Ale--yes Mayans will be our final answer.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Mayans
4. English

As Major Idiot pulls out the Billy Barue...oh Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy...

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 12:58 PM
You have 3 of your first 3 choices as AGR civs - only 2 of the first 3 can be AGR.

Revised:

1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. English
4. Maya
(5. Portugal :D)

Understand? Is this revised one your true final answer?

SesnOfWthr
Jul 18, 2005, 01:01 PM
no, I think our other civ was gonna be Persia.

Wouldn't we prefer to have Persia 3 and England 5 anyhow?

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 01:01 PM
:crazyeye:
Idiot I am.
1. Iroq.
2. Celts
3.English
4. Mayans
5. Persians

We had more votes for England #3 than Persians.

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 01:03 PM
So is it England #3 and Persia #5 or vice versa? Crossposts ... :crazyeye:

SesnOfWthr
Jul 18, 2005, 01:04 PM
boy, we're really winning the spam war so far, huh? Everyone else has about 20 posts thus far. :D

BTW - 2k posts for whomp! [party]

EDIT: If Whomp said we had more votes his way, then I'll believe him. He's been keeping a running tally.

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 01:05 PM
England had more votes for #3.

Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 01:07 PM
Ok, so it is Team K.I.S.S and the civ list is above. All that is left is team color (any special request?) and the team adjective, leader name, etc, or are we using the stuff you posted earlier?

soul_warrior
Jul 18, 2005, 01:12 PM
i think id like to become the Punky Funky Idiot
just my own tribute to bob marley R.I.P. :cry:

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 01:13 PM
Team color is red and no one else posted for the adjective etc except me so go ahead with yesterday's post. :p
Cheers everyone I think we're done with this part!
:beer:

OK SW you are done on that. I've edited the team name post.
Also let me apologize to everyone for being in full on 'Slinger mode yesterday when I was posting.

Darwin420
Jul 18, 2005, 01:30 PM
Well, since I missed the final voting (stoopid RL) ... good list! :goodjob:

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 18, 2005, 02:59 PM
Idiot Civant? Sure. Or I could have something to do with Maine as well. Other Maine Idiot? Semi-Maine Idiot? Co-Maine Idiot? New Maine Idiot? Meh, none of those sound good.

Your Idiot Civant, reporting in. :)

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 03:18 PM
Would you prefer my Maine Man Idiot? Honestly, I'm not sure why I felt the need to name everyone slinger mode but what the heck.

barbu1977
Jul 18, 2005, 04:38 PM
Hello all, Whomp invited me to join your team from another civ site :mischief:

For my title, i'd propose che following
Idiotic Frog,
Northen Idiot

Fot the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)

Red is a great choice :goodjob: , but English? who came up with that over Japan? :crazyeye:

Looking forward to the game.

soul_warrior
Jul 18, 2005, 05:57 PM
Hello all, Whomp invited me to join your team from another civ site :mischief:

For my title, i'd propose che following
Idiotic Frog,
Northen Idiot
can we guess from this that you re a frankophile?
a FROG, in layman's words?

Fot the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)
are you calling us spammers?
we could spam you and you wouldnt even notice ;)

Red is a great choice :goodjob: , but English? who came up with that over Japan? :crazyeye:
are you caling US English, mad?
well, do ya? punk?

Looking forward to the game.
it is, isnt it? :D

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 06:04 PM
Idiotic Frog,
Northern Idiot

I like Idiot Frog since you're from Montreal.
For the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)
Hey I resemble that remark. :p

Welcome Idiot Frog.

IroquoisPlisken
Jul 18, 2005, 06:39 PM
Idiot Civant or Maine Man Idiot... :hmm: We could always have a vote on it... :lol:

Uhh...I think I'll be Maine Man Idiot (if you have to know, I decided with eeney-miney-moe ;) ).

barbu1977
Jul 18, 2005, 08:07 PM
can we guess from this that you re a frankophile?
a FROG, in layman's words?


Francophone is the word, I'm french speaking, not "markedly friendly to France". Althoug I'm not opposed to France, they made remarkable work like Brigitte Bardot and the Maginot Line. :lol:

Where does it come from? Pick one.
http://allaboutfrogs.org/weird/general/frenchfrogs.html

Edit: BTW, personaly I don't care about the nickname, but to some french speaking it is an very offensive insult.

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 08:19 PM
:hmm: I'm sorry Barbu. First Sesn and now you.
Let's chalk it up to I'm....an idiot.
Does Idiotic Northern Frog fit?

barbu1977
Jul 18, 2005, 09:10 PM
Cheer up. As I said I don't care at all, this is why I proposed it. And I think it fits well with the theme.

I was just saying that it's not because I find it funny that you should use it in any circumstances and on anybody.

Bede
Jul 19, 2005, 04:44 AM
Grumpy Old Cod would fit the bill.

As for the rest,

Civ List looks okay.
Red is good.

soul_warrior
Jul 19, 2005, 04:44 AM
barbu, you know that no offense was meant, right?
just us babbling idiots...

Provolution
Jul 19, 2005, 05:41 AM
I am a Francophobe...

Ginger_Ale
Jul 19, 2005, 07:36 AM
Provolution, do you not realize this thread is for Team K.I.S.S members only? While there isn't any seriously important info, you have been warned - do not do this again!

Whomp
Jul 19, 2005, 09:37 AM
O ops..

Whomp
Jul 19, 2005, 09:39 AM
Death to that guy and his Team Two.

Of course Grumpy Old Venerable Cod.

Since only one person can play the saves I have an idea.
What I was thinking is we could play this SG style but try to pair off people to keep the save moving. Let's try to match up people whose availability is opposite.
What do you all think?

My best time to play is GMT 11 pm to 5 am and most anytime on weekends.

I will establish an email account for the team and PM the details tonight.

soul_warrior
Jul 19, 2005, 10:01 AM
sounds good whomp.
im usually available GMT 4PM to 10PM

Darwin420
Jul 19, 2005, 10:52 AM
Uhh, best time for me is usually between 9pm EST - 11pm EST, except tuesdays and fridays (cos then I'm rocking out with the band). But I won't be able to play every night. If there was some kind of set day or two that I would be playing, that would be most excellent. If not, I'll roll with the punches and do what I can for the team.

Whomp
Jul 19, 2005, 11:20 AM
No probs Darwin. My idea is simply to let people play the save and keep the save moving. The bigger aspect of this game will be the team discussion and eventually our diplomatic relations. Personally, I think the conversations with the other teams will make this quite interesting.

I will post in this thread to accumulate the times.
Funky Punky Idiot Soul Dude 4 pm to 10 pm GMT
Major Idiot Whomp 11 pm to 5 am GMT weekends
Idiotic Northern Frog Barbu 8 pm to 5 am GMT Weekdays
Johnny Idiot Sesn 10 pm to 3 am GMT Mon.-Thur
Maine Idiot Darwin 1 am to 3 am GMT no Tuesdays and Fridays and concert nights.

Pentium Processor Idiot
Grumpy Old Venerable Cod Bede
Idiot Civant Iroquois Pliskenator
Sir Bugsy (name?)
Our official team Lurker Meteor Punch (name?)
Our official team designer Mistfit (name?)

SesnOfWthr
Jul 19, 2005, 12:19 PM
Well, it's kinda tough for me to say when I'm available. I guess the best thing would be to say from 6 PM to 11 PM EDT, Mon to Thurs. Weekends are tough for me during the summer, but if I have time it will be before 2pm or so.

Also, are we going to nominate some sort of diplomatic liason for each team? I imagine it would make things easier if there was one point of contact for each team, as far as bartering goes.

barbu1977
Jul 19, 2005, 12:25 PM
Most weekdays around 4h and around 13h

Whomp
Jul 19, 2005, 12:34 PM
Good idea Sesn.
I would nominate Bede. Dat man da skillz to wax poetic.

soul_warrior
Jul 19, 2005, 12:40 PM
i second the monk for our state dept.
ill just be the Minister De La Funk :cooool:

Ginger_Ale
Jul 19, 2005, 12:45 PM
Since we all seem too active here, for those that haven't done so, go to your User CP (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups), request to join Team Whomp (the name will change soon), and I will add you to that public group (see? Most other people aren't a part of public groups - but you can be (and you should be)) - then, you'll get access to your private forum in the DG7 Team PBEM forum where you can 'talk about the game', decide on how to run playing the save, making info threads, whatever.

Rik Meleet
Jul 19, 2005, 02:34 PM
Thread closed; moved to DG 7 forum