View Full Version : SGLs Poll


Ginger_Ale
Jul 18, 2005, 09:17 AM
Team representatives, please vote in this poll for your team after getting your team's opinion. The admins will break a tie if necessary.

Whomp
Jul 18, 2005, 01:58 PM
K.I.S.S. votes no

vbraun
Jul 21, 2005, 02:22 PM
Team 2 (pending name) votes Yes

classical_hero
Jul 22, 2005, 04:32 AM
Team M.I.A votes yes.

Bootstoots
Jul 23, 2005, 02:06 PM
Team Doughnut votes no.

classical_hero
Jul 23, 2005, 02:12 PM
It is a 50/50 split, what now?

Bootstoots
Jul 23, 2005, 02:14 PM
The admins break the tie, I gather. I think they should randomize the decision, personally.

RegentMan
Jul 23, 2005, 02:34 PM
While randomly making a choice might be the fairest way, it is not the correct way to proceed. Each option yields an impact on the game, so the decision must be chosen.

People against scientific great leaders might argue that a free wonder in 3000BC is overpowering and unbalanced. It is based on luck, and as we all know, luck is a huge factor in Civilization III. The spearman defeating the tank is a classic example. That outcome is based on a huge stroke of luck, and as such, we can't rule that outcome out of the game. In addition, the team with the wonder will find themselves in a particular situation - they will have to use their diplomatic skills to the most effect; most teams probably want that wonder, and will do anything to get it. Thus we have a situation that requires cunning, smarts, and luck to get out alive.

Therefore, it is my decision that scientific great leaders are to be on.

Whomp
Jul 23, 2005, 08:56 PM
It is based on luck, and as we all know, luck is a huge factor in Civilization III. The spearman defeating the tank is a classic example. That outcome is based on a huge stroke of luck, and as such, we can't rule that outcome out of the game.I disagree with this statement. The spear beating the tank is an extremely rare occurence and easily and quickly replaced. SGL's (hundreds of free shields) in this game will not be rare. There is a possibility a SGL could pop up half a dozen times or more. I think it will have an extremely unbalancing effect on the game.

Though we voted no on SoZ, a team would have to make a concerted effort to build it and spend those shields.

With SGL's, I don't see any downside if a team gets one. We will accept the admins decistion but disagree with the decision. Can we turn off the military wonders being available with a SGL?