Hi everyone.





















Lets use this thread for some team discussion.

First things first.
We need a team name. This is not my team it's our team. Any thoughts?

On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.

One major difference in this game is we won't be able to manipulate humans the way we manipulate the AI. I think we'll be on a small map with 4 human opponents. It will get bloody early.

To start the discussions.
What civ would you like to play ranked 1-3?
I think the ag. trait is really huge.
1.Iroquois-- best 1st techs IMO, huge UU and great traits
2. Celts--pottery, gahmungous UU, and religious may have some benefit with short anarchy.
3. Mayans-- good 1st techs, average UU and good traits.
After that I would lean towards Aztecs over the Dutch on continents and pangea.
The Dutch start same as Iroquois on techs, UU is less interesting vs. humans and Seafaring may be worthless.
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The next most important tech to me is wheel after alpha and pot. Finding horses is huge.

Anything is open for discussion so post away.

K.I.S.S. (Killer Intelligence Space Ship) is fine.
St. Simeon'sis another option (aka Simeaon the fool ;))
check out the holy dude (http://ship-of-fools.com/Simeon/)
featherhead for supreme power :king:

There's only 7 of us, so I don't think we can have a hierarchy. KISS is the best!

Iroquis seem the best option for me, being AGR and having Alpha, with a very good UU.

Regarding the name, anything about Fools/Idiots/other stupid people is good. :D

One note that RegentMan and I have decided on (before this thread was open, we aren't trying to limit you guys) is that only 2 of your top 3 civs can be AGR. We don't want this game to be an AGR-fest with everybody's 3 civs being IRO, CEL, SUM, etc...

Once we get a few more signups we will release the ruleset for any last minute changes and to see if everyone agrees.

What about Team K.I.S.S.? :)

I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.

I've always loved the Celtic UU, though.

Or we could be completely different and be someone like the Mongols. The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat. :lol:

I've only played the Iroquois once, so I'd like to try them out again.This satement would be perfectly normal if you didn't have them is your name. :)

The shear strangeness of that Civ choice may make the other teams see us as a non-threat. :lol:We could be Americans....

But I think Germany is a decent civ. Militaristic is good for MP, and we'll probably be the only SCI civ in the game. It'll ne easier to lead in techs, so we'll have superior units. And if we stand until IA, we have the game. :D

Edit: Plus, it starts with BW. We'd have swords after only 1 tech!

Edit 2: K.I.S.S. => Stupid It-Simple Keepers?

Just finished actually reading your post...


On this game, the way I see this team is not much different than how we've played SG's together. Personally, I don't like the formality of the demogame hierarchy. My view is K.I.S.S.. But it's up to the team if we think it should be different.


All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.

Or is that not what you were saying?

I think you read it right. We'll have a KISS system.

BTW: I actually think Team K.I.S.S. is a good name.

K.I.S.S is good.

Iro and Celts are killers. England is fun too if we ever get to MOW.

I agree with my brother Bede. Iro, Celts and English in that order. How about team Grumpy?

honourable sirs....
i would really, no REALLY like to play liz again...
after the humiliation i (we) have suffered in SW1, i need revenge!!!!

ps - if we want to make is even (that means easier on our rivals) why not pick Portugal?
underhanded, but if we pull this off, alll the more glory to us!

Just finished actually reading your post...
All you are *required* to have is someone to play the turns. You don't need a military leader, domestic leader, etc. That can all be decided by the citizens.
Or is that not what you were saying?
Yeah that's what I'm meant GA. We will always have someone to play the save but I don't think we need a president/dictator dude or anything.

OK Ginger Ale said two ag and one non ag. Playing on small maps I would say we want an early UU so I'd vote.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persians
I think Militaristic and Seafaring are zero help in this type of game and my concern with the English is whether we'd see a GA.

Stupid is as stupid does. Team Big Idiots and Grumps? B.I.G or K.I.S.S. work for me? I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.

BTW let's not overestimate ourselves yet. None of us have PBEM skills or human vs. human experience from what I know.

I'm not sure we qualify for Grumpy old man status.
I know I don't. *is 17* ;)

Stupid is as stupid does.
Are you implying we should call ourselves Team Gump? :lol:

Those 3 civs sound good, Whomp. They all have early UUs, and they're all great UUs.

A few other questions. We need a UN rep to bring back our team's responeses. Why don't I go ahead and act as our rep on this to K.I.S.S.
Do we have a color we'd like?
We need to pick 5 civs and only 2 of the first 3 can be ag. Here are mine.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Aztecs
5. Sumerians
How about the start? My thoughts are bold
Water %? 60%
Land Form? Could we get it so the continents have a coastal link?
AIs?No
Difficulty Level (for # of content citizens)?Emporer
Map Size (I am leaning towards small or tiny - no bigger than standard)?Tiny or small
Barbarians?No
Age? 4 Bill
Climate? normal
Temperature? normal

Another key question: do you want SoZ? If so, should it require Ivory? No from me but it's cuz I hate Wonders.
Should it produce Horsemen instead of ACs? No[/B]Any custom changes? I would like to have a way to reach the other continent early.
SGLs? On / off? Off

I've always like the Roman red.

The Civ choices I agree with.

I agree with Continents with a way for galleys to cross. Otherwise the diplomacy won't get interesting until late Middle Ages (and some Teams may be dead by then).

About AIs, personally I'd like to see one or two, but from what I've seen, no one else agrees with me. :sad:

SGLs and Barbs I agree should be off. If someone got lucky with a Leader or Goody Hut, they make take over the game.

Everything doesn't make a difference to me.

I'm a random kind of player so civ choices are always left up to the computer.

Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Continents with 60% water should make for reasonable diplomatic opportunities on standard or small maps.

Normal temp, damp climate, old world are my usual choices but I sense that there may be some differences in play here that I cannot account for.

Emperor is a good solid difficulty level.

SGL's and barbs off.

Hopefully Sesn will post here soon and Darwin's band is rocking the whole state of Maine right now so maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.

Bede--I think the admins will determine randomly who were are located next to. I know a map has been requested.

Seems we have some consensus on Iroquois and Celts.
For #3
Bede, Bugs and SW like the English.
Pentium digs the Germans
and
IP and I like Persia.
Also we may need a 4th or 5th civ. I need to clarify whether these can be a ag civ after the first 2 of 3 are ag.

On the map we all agree SGLs and barbs off. SoZ?
Continents with a route would be nice. Smallish.

Bede likes an old world and after thinking about the mongering skills of this club I lean that way too. I think it could give us a bit of an edge.

Red it is unless someone objects.

Team K.I.S.S. or Team Grump or B.I.G.?

Whomp: You cannot have your list of 5 be: AGR, AGR, AGR, NON-AGR, NON-AGR - only 2 of the first 3 can be AGR (and 1 more of the next 2 if you have a list of 5).

It seems this team has come to agree upon Continents, 60% water on a small (?) map - temperate climate, 3 billion, and wet? Please discuss.

Also, what about barbarians?


Query: Are we choosing our opponents or our preferences for assignment?

Your opponents are following the same process, selecting the top 3 or top 5 civs they would like to be.

what is your favorite colour? RED!
what is your quest? to K.I.S.S
what is your country like? i dont care!

wrong answer :sniper: :spank:

GA I think Bede and I like 5 billion years. No barbs or SGLs. Too random. I still say no on SoZ. Team?

I think the team agrees with Iroquois and Celts. The only question is whether the other teams will also have Iroquois as their #1. Should we have Celts #1?

For #3 we are still in the air so please post your non ag #3 to #5.
I like
Persians
Romans
Japanese

We would like red as our team color.

My number one perference is Iros then Celts.

Older is better.

No SGLs, No SoZ, I prefer Persia then Rome for non-AGR.

Don't give a hoot about color, just as long as all the colors are distinct. Having Iroquois and Portugal both being a shade of purple stinks. We have that in GR7 right now.

Non Ag
3. England
4. France
5. Korea

No to SoZ, that is another random thingy and AC's generaled by humans are just too overpowering.

Was the thinking on a young world related to terrain defense bonus? If so I confess to being like a cat on a hot tin roof, just plain not sure where to light.

Also, do you want your civ to have a special name? Will it be just your team name? Leader and title are also wanted.

Idiot St. Simeon of the K.I.S.S. ?

So no SoZ, no SGL, old world, red color.
I think we should go with Persia as the non-agr civ. UU is just plain killer.

Also, do you want your civ to have a special name? Will it be just your team name? Leader and title are also wanted.
K.I.S.S. seems to be very popular. How about The Idiots with Grumpys of K.I.S.S.? I will be our UN rep for the time being.

Here's what I have so far. Iroquois #1 and Celts #2. No SGLs, no SoZ, no barbs, Continents with access, old world. Our color will be red.
#3 English (Bede, Bugs and SW) , Persians (Pentium and Whomp)
#4 France (Bede), Persians (Bugs) and Romans (Whomp)
#5 Korea (Bede) and Romans (Whomp)

K.I.S.S. seems to be very popular. How about The Idiots with Grumpys of K.I.S.S.? I will be our UN rep for the time being.Which one is leader name and which one is title?

I'm a little confused myself. I think leader is who would be the person who communicates in the various discussions and rulesets by the admins. I guess than would be me and my title.....Lead Idiot guy from the nation K.I.S.S....I guess.

I just looked at the ruleset and now I've read we can ask for 2 of 3 ag civs and then 3 of 5 ag civs.
That changes my 3 thru 5 choices.
3. Aztecs
4. Persians
5. Romans
Other than that I don't think we would ever even know how to use any of the other exploits. Read through the thread if you like but to summarize it don't do things like share resources with an ally or share arty and such, don't trade detailed maps without the tech, no espionage outside of the game by looking at other team saves, .
Ship chaining is legal though. I will post more on this if I seem something strange but feel free to look at the ruleset.

Sorry for the delay in checking in guys. The weekends are a tougher time for me during the summer. You know, cookouts, parties, Ozzfest. :rockon:

Iro, Celts, Persia, Rome, English.
No barbs, no SGL, no SoZ.
Emperor, continents, standard size, 5 billion, don't like wet because it's too much jungle/marsh for a game like this.
As far as color, I've always been a fan of the Celts green. :)

EDIT: Can we get a Gene Simmons leaderhead for Team K.I.S.S.? :crazyeye:

FYI Sesn we can add one more ag civ for our 3 through 5. Would you prefer a ag civ in there? I will pm Mistfit for a leam logo. Team K.I.S.S it is.

It looks like this will be our settings. Seems we got everything we wanted.

60% Continents with a possible, safe galley crossing via coast (or 2 tiles of sea), Small Map, Emperor (i.e. 1 free content citizen), no AIs, no SGLs, no barbs, no SoZ, temperate climate, 5 billion years old, normal temperature.

I have a few questions posted in the rulesets.

Ok, sure - swap England for Sumeria then

whomp, how about we call you - our esteemed leader - Major Idiot, commander of the K.I.S.S. Brigade? :D

What about Kernel Idiot? :lol:

I'm not sure if I ever posted my final vote for Civs:

1. Iroquios
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Rome
5. Maya

Also:

Darwin's band is rocking the whole state of Maine right now so maybe we'll hear from him tomorrow.
Is that so? What's his band's name?

whomp, how about we call you - our esteemed leader - Major Idiot, commander of the K.I.S.S. Brigade? :D
Perfect. :cool: What are all of your names? We need an Idiot Savant.

Is that so? What's his band's name?
With SW, Darwin and Bugs we have quite a musical team here and not to toot my own horn but I've been told I am one of the preeminent air guarists in the Great Lakes region. My leaping reverse windmill move is legendary.

Here is darwin's band page.

http://www.everythinginbetween.us/

With SW, Darwin and Bugs we have quite a musical team here and not to toot my own horn but I've been told I am one of the preeminent air guarists in the Great Lakes region. My leaping reverse windmill move is legendary.

Here is darwin's band page.

http://www.everythinginbetween.us/
Not exactly my style of music, but cool nonetheless. :) I live about a half hour away from Auburn, though. Small world, indeed. :crazyeye:

As for my name? No idea. :(

What I meant by leader and title...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Leader-Title.JPG

Although feel free to give yourself titles. ;)

I live about a half hour away from Auburn, though. Small world, indeed. :crazyeye:

As for my name? No idea. :(
Well let's see. Here's a few ideas...You could be our "Maine Idiot" or we could reserve that for Darwin and you could be our resident Idiot Civant.
Bugs could be Lefty (Coast) Grumpy and Bede could be Righty (Coast) Grumpy of the Brothers Grump. Pentium could be St. Simeon Idiot, SW DJ Funkalicious Idiot, Sesn could be plain old Johnny Damon.

Do these fit? I can't think very well right now. I'm on the deck with some libations in hand so work with me please.
Name: Dude
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot

Well, it would read "Seriously Grumpy Idiot Dude of the Stupids." Tourists would say "Do you want to head over to the nation of K.I.S.S.?" and they would use the plain old Stupids dollar in your nation.

Look at the screenie I provided and make up some sentences using noun, formal, and adjective (like I did). That'll help you come up with some ideas.

Do these fit? I can't think very well right now. I'm on the deck with some libations in hand so work with me please.
Name: Dude
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot
a slight correction, if i might...

Name: The Dude!
Formal: K.I.S.S
Nouns: Stupids
Adjective: plain old Stupids
Title: Seriously Grumpy Idiot

and the names.... :cooool:

Pentium could be St. Simeon Idiot,No no, I didn't come up with that, SW did. I could be Idiot Processor :)

No no, I didn't come up with that, SW did. I could be Idiot Processor :) Done and done.

FYI something I was not aware of is we can't send a save zoomed out (exploit I guess)

I don't know if I'm overreacting here but I don't particularly like this rule.
On rules 0.3.2 and 0.3.3 I would assume any losing team member would not be allowed to offer information to their new team that this team wasn't aware of. Is this correct?

I don't see why they wouldn't be. The refugee can feel free to say something that their new team might not know.

Example: Team A is elminated, and member AA joins Team B. AA knows Team C has a huge stack of knights on Team B's borders. However, Team B has planned for war with Team C for quite a long time and has built up a stack of ten longbows. It would be hard for AA to vote against a declaration of war without revealing the stack of knights.

:hmm: I'm of the opinion "To the Victors Belong the Spoils"--Andrew Jackson.
I would prefer to amend this slightly where a conquered team can not join another team for, say, 7-10 turns. IMO if they are able to join another team it would add some randomness to the game.It might also create a little fun between the teams. Knowing you have to attract refugees somehow without them fleeing to another team will be hard indeed. What do you all think?

Sesn could be plain old Johnny Damon.

Of all the words to describe him, plain and old are probably two of the poorer choices. :p I'm a big Tek fan, personally, but I have a tough time calling him an idiot.

RE: team changing. I don't understand this at all. Why would you join another team if you got eliminated? Someone could conceivably lose repeatedly in the same game. I really think that is unnecessary. IF it's allowed, then there should be a minimum of ten or twenty turns before any spoiler info is allowed. Not to beat a dead horse, but I really don't understand the concept and would vote for people only being allowed on one team for the duration.

Sesn, please see if this rule meets your need (there is no planned time between switching teams once you are eliminated):


"you are not allowed to give out spoiler info that the new team you are on would not know about if you had not joined. If you have to give out spoiler info to prove your case, then do not post / vote in the thread."

Or perhaps we should have it so that you are not allowed to post in your new team's forum, just to read and lurk?

so what - let's say we get eliminated after 40 turns, or whatever. I can't go and just browse the other threads to see what's going on? Is that where the need for a new team arises? I guess I'm mainly confused why I want to join a second team if we lose?

Because of espionage concerns, no, noone is able to view all 4 team forums simultaneously (except RM, myself, and the mods). So you can pick a team to 'lurk' or even discuss with to stay 'in the action'. You do not have to do this, it is merely for your entertainment.

Because of espionage concerns, no, noone is able to view all 4 team forums simultaneously

Ahh, I guess thats the part I'm missing. Unfortunate we have to do this, I guess. Then I would say go back to the ten or twenty turns, or prohibit spoiler info, or whatever. However, if people are intent enough on cheating, they could always use PM's.....

My big concern is that someone who loses may be bitter. If they're bitter and vengeful they may do anything in their power to weaken the team that whacked them. Refugees have to walk a ways to get away from their oppressors I think it's fair that a team that loses should have to wait (some turns) before offering any info to their new team. Personally would be ok with GA's amended rule.

BTW I love Johnny Damon, he's sweet. Calling him an idiot was a term of endearment.

well, first thing...
since were NOT going to lose this is a mute discussion :D

but if some really freakish accident happen, like us losing each and every city, i guess 10 turns of running away is long enough.
after which you could comment on what happened UPTO that 10 turn mark.

and if you lose, well... you lose.
we have some of the cream de la Civ here, and SOMEBODY's got to go, right?
i will be upset if the inconcievable happens, but will just wait for another chance.
(e.g. - losing team members can choose if the want to join a new team or not. they can also decide to quit politics and lurk a team (becoming a citizen, but not a ruler))

What do you all think?Like Sesn, I don't think team changing should be allowed at all. If you lose, you lose. Why would someone try to win if he can jump to the winning team whenever he wants?

hello fellow idiots! :p GA has given me lurker status for one team, so I chose this one. No comments form me in the thread, but good luck!

Like Sesn, I don't think team changing should be allowed at all. If you lose, you lose. Why would someone try to win if he can jump to the winning team whenever he wants?

Ah, ah, ah, you are missing the point I think. You can only change teams after you are eliminated - not just at any time you like. He can't just "jump to the winning team whenever he wants" - first he has to be eliminated, second he has to know the winning civ, and third he actually has to know who the winning civ is.

"Maine Idiot" ... I like that! :P

I have just read through this entire thread, and the choices and selections seem fine to me. I've never done a game like this before, but I know the team will help me get my feet wet. I'm just looking forward to having a great time, whether we win or, well, win... :D

@GA: I didn't miss the point, I just didn't agree with joining another team when you lose. But the rest seem to agree with you, so I think we should allow this.

Whomp and this team:

On page two, post 33, IroquoisPlisken proposed this listing of 5 civs:

1. Iroquios
2. Celts
3. Persia
4. Rome
5. Maya

Does everyone agree to this? Or a last minute switch? You would get to be the first civ done with civ selection. ;)

Wow this thread got off topic..

No Ginger Ale. I don't think we've come to a consensus on our 3 to 5.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts

3. English 3 chose as their #3
4. Persia 2 chose #2 and a bunch in other spots.
5. One more ag civ. I said Aztecs/IP said Maya/Sesn said Sumerians so we need a few more votes here. I would suggest we make this our #3. Ags are hard to beat.

I did indeed say Sumeria, but in reality, it doesn't matter that much to me for the number five spot. I've always had good luck with the Maya as well.

Let's just nail it down and make whatever our final choice. One would think that if we can get this done and be the first with a preference, then it shouldn't go down to number five anyhow.

I'd say just go Iro, Celts, England, Maya, Persia, and get the choices submitted.

That's good for me.

Now with settings polls, here are my votes:

Small Continents, Normal/Normal/Old, Emperor, and NO to Barbs/SGL's/SoZ

Actually, with only 4 teams, it CAN'T go down to number 5, right? Or am I missing something? :confused:

And I agree with those settings Pentium, as long as there's safe passage between the two Continents.

@IP yu are correct but Ginger Ale asked for 5 so that's what we should do.
@Pentium all of our map settings seem to be agreed on now all we need is a map. the map is not ready so this game is probably still a little ways away.

I'm probably being a complete arse but what happens if we don't get the Iroquois or Celts? I assume the other teams will want them as well.

We have the opportunity to get another ag civ #3 so I would like to try this one more time and narrow down our decision based on the assumption we won't get our top two and maybe #3. IMO The English will not be taken by any of the other teams so getting them as our #3 would not be a problem. Against human opponents I am concerned about their late GA and if it's against all ags civs it could be a rough start but....

If you don't mind please rank the 3 ag civs below so we can narrow it down to another ag civ. If you don't want a ag civ just put them #5 on the 2nd list.
For me
1. Aztecs--Militaristic is not a good trait but with a cheap UU with good scouting skills, extra movement and potentially could allow us a rush against the other civ on our continent.
2. Sumerians-- Good traits, cheap UU but defensive.
3. Mayans Good traits but a 30 shield UU without barbs, no bombard and doesn't seem to have a lot of value versus swords and horses.

Then rank the ag civ, Persians and English.
For me...
3. Any ag civ.
4. Persians
5. English

I will use a ranking based on your votes to come up with the order.

Quick Questions
- How Many Seriously Grumpy Idiots are there?

- Names of each?

I will of course do you banner :) . I do not however have time to give to another game :(

1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. English
4. Persia
5. Aztecs or Maya (leaning towards Maya)

a ok, whomp?

Thanks SW.

We have 9 of us. The magnificient 7 idiots plus 2 Grumpy Old Men Bede and Bugs.
Confirmed names so far include...
Major Idiot-->me
Maine Idiot-->Darwin
Processor Idiot-->Pentium
Johnny Idiot-- Sesn
Punky Funky Idiot--Soul Warrior

Still a work in progress include...

?? Idiot --> Iroquois Plisken (I like Civant)
?? Idiot lurker --> Meteor Punch
?? Grumpy --> Sir Bugsy (Lefty?)
?? Grumpy --> Bede (Righty?)

Don't really have a problem with whatever, Whomp, Damon is certainly one of the idiots. All I said was that I like Tek more, but I don't really consider him to be much of an idiot, so he wouldn't be as good a fit here.

So there you go, I can just be Johnny Idiot. :D

EDIT: I also thought the AGR could only be 2 of the top 3, and 3 of the top 5, which is where me putting them fourth came from. If we can make all of our top 3 AGR, then so be it. Of the ones left, none really matter. Just give us the Celts or Iro and be done with it. :lol: Don't we get first dibs if we submit our prefs first anyhow?

Only 2 of your first 3 can be AGR, and only 3 of the 5 total can be AGR. The list SW posted is fine.

Is Mayans the final answer?

Sesn: I was planing on using a random number generator, but I'll see.

A random number generator would be the best way. It doesn't force the other teams to rush their discussion simply to get their civ choices out there.

Ginger Ale--yes Mayans will be our final answer.
1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. Mayans
4. English

As Major Idiot pulls out the Billy Barue...oh Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy...

You have 3 of your first 3 choices as AGR civs - only 2 of the first 3 can be AGR.

Revised:

1. Iroquois
2. Celts
3. English
4. Maya
(5. Portugal :D)

Understand? Is this revised one your true final answer?

no, I think our other civ was gonna be Persia.

Wouldn't we prefer to have Persia 3 and England 5 anyhow?

:crazyeye:
Idiot I am.
1. Iroq.
2. Celts
3.English
4. Mayans
5. Persians

We had more votes for England #3 than Persians.

So is it England #3 and Persia #5 or vice versa? Crossposts ... :crazyeye:

boy, we're really winning the spam war so far, huh? Everyone else has about 20 posts thus far. :D

BTW - 2k posts for whomp! [party]

EDIT: If Whomp said we had more votes his way, then I'll believe him. He's been keeping a running tally.

England had more votes for #3.

Ok, so it is Team K.I.S.S and the civ list is above. All that is left is team color (any special request?) and the team adjective, leader name, etc, or are we using the stuff you posted earlier?

i think id like to become the Punky Funky Idiot
just my own tribute to bob marley R.I.P. :cry:

Team color is red and no one else posted for the adjective etc except me so go ahead with yesterday's post. :p
Cheers everyone I think we're done with this part!
:beer:

OK SW you are done on that. I've edited the team name post.
Also let me apologize to everyone for being in full on 'Slinger mode yesterday when I was posting.

Well, since I missed the final voting (stoopid RL) ... good list! :goodjob:

Idiot Civant? Sure. Or I could have something to do with Maine as well. Other Maine Idiot? Semi-Maine Idiot? Co-Maine Idiot? New Maine Idiot? Meh, none of those sound good.

Your Idiot Civant, reporting in. :)

Would you prefer my Maine Man Idiot? Honestly, I'm not sure why I felt the need to name everyone slinger mode but what the heck.

Hello all, Whomp invited me to join your team from another civ site :mischief:

For my title, i'd propose che following
Idiotic Frog,
Northen Idiot

Fot the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)

Red is a great choice :goodjob: , but English? who came up with that over Japan? :crazyeye:

Looking forward to the game.

Hello all, Whomp invited me to join your team from another civ site :mischief:

For my title, i'd propose che following
Idiotic Frog,
Northen Idiot
can we guess from this that you re a frankophile?
a FROG, in layman's words?

Fot the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)
are you calling us spammers?
we could spam you and you wouldnt even notice ;)

Red is a great choice :goodjob: , but English? who came up with that over Japan? :crazyeye:
are you caling US English, mad?
well, do ya? punk?

Looking forward to the game.
it is, isnt it? :D

Idiotic Frog,
Northern Idiot

I like Idiot Frog since you're from Montreal.
For the team name, the Spaming Idiot should have done it. :)
Hey I resemble that remark. :p

Welcome Idiot Frog.

Idiot Civant or Maine Man Idiot... :hmm: We could always have a vote on it... :lol:

Uhh...I think I'll be Maine Man Idiot (if you have to know, I decided with eeney-miney-moe ;) ).

can we guess from this that you re a frankophile?
a FROG, in layman's words?


Francophone is the word, I'm french speaking, not "markedly friendly to France". Althoug I'm not opposed to France, they made remarkable work like Brigitte Bardot and the Maginot Line. :lol:

Where does it come from? Pick one.
http://allaboutfrogs.org/weird/general/frenchfrogs.html

Edit: BTW, personaly I don't care about the nickname, but to some french speaking it is an very offensive insult.

:hmm: I'm sorry Barbu. First Sesn and now you.
Let's chalk it up to I'm....an idiot.
Does Idiotic Northern Frog fit?

Cheer up. As I said I don't care at all, this is why I proposed it. And I think it fits well with the theme.

I was just saying that it's not because I find it funny that you should use it in any circumstances and on anybody.

Grumpy Old Cod would fit the bill.

As for the rest,

Civ List looks okay.
Red is good.

barbu, you know that no offense was meant, right?
just us babbling idiots...

I am a Francophobe...

Provolution, do you not realize this thread is for Team K.I.S.S members only? While there isn't any seriously important info, you have been warned - do not do this again!

O ops..

Death to that guy and his Team Two.

Of course Grumpy Old Venerable Cod.

Since only one person can play the saves I have an idea.
What I was thinking is we could play this SG style but try to pair off people to keep the save moving. Let's try to match up people whose availability is opposite.
What do you all think?

My best time to play is GMT 11 pm to 5 am and most anytime on weekends.

I will establish an email account for the team and PM the details tonight.

sounds good whomp.
im usually available GMT 4PM to 10PM

Uhh, best time for me is usually between 9pm EST - 11pm EST, except tuesdays and fridays (cos then I'm rocking out with the band). But I won't be able to play every night. If there was some kind of set day or two that I would be playing, that would be most excellent. If not, I'll roll with the punches and do what I can for the team.

No probs Darwin. My idea is simply to let people play the save and keep the save moving. The bigger aspect of this game will be the team discussion and eventually our diplomatic relations. Personally, I think the conversations with the other teams will make this quite interesting.

I will post in this thread to accumulate the times.
Funky Punky Idiot Soul Dude 4 pm to 10 pm GMT
Major Idiot Whomp 11 pm to 5 am GMT weekends
Idiotic Northern Frog Barbu 8 pm to 5 am GMT Weekdays
Johnny Idiot Sesn 10 pm to 3 am GMT Mon.-Thur
Maine Idiot Darwin 1 am to 3 am GMT no Tuesdays and Fridays and concert nights.

Pentium Processor Idiot
Grumpy Old Venerable Cod Bede
Idiot Civant Iroquois Pliskenator
Sir Bugsy (name?)
Our official team Lurker Meteor Punch (name?)
Our official team designer Mistfit (name?)

Well, it's kinda tough for me to say when I'm available. I guess the best thing would be to say from 6 PM to 11 PM EDT, Mon to Thurs. Weekends are tough for me during the summer, but if I have time it will be before 2pm or so.

Also, are we going to nominate some sort of diplomatic liason for each team? I imagine it would make things easier if there was one point of contact for each team, as far as bartering goes.

Most weekdays around 4h and around 13h

Good idea Sesn.
I would nominate Bede. Dat man da skillz to wax poetic.

i second the monk for our state dept.
ill just be the Minister De La Funk :cooool:

Since we all seem too active here, for those that haven't done so, go to your User CP (http://forums.civfanatics.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups), request to join Team Whomp (the name will change soon), and I will add you to that public group (see? Most other people aren't a part of public groups - but you can be (and you should be)) - then, you'll get access to your private forum in the DG7 Team PBEM forum where you can 'talk about the game', decide on how to run playing the save, making info threads, whatever.

I think we will be hard pressed to find anyone to complain about that choice of trade rep.

We may need to nominate an assistant too assuming Bede accepts the nomination.

We may need to nominate an assistant too assuming Bede accepts the nomination.And his secretary, along with his private coffee maker. And, of course, coffee maker's servant. If we have enough members, we could also nominate coffee maker's servant's assistant. ;)

BTW, I have time just like SW, but I can take a look on the forums between 7 and 8 am GMT.

As Minister of the Ineterior (decorating that is) I have a pretty good jump on this team as Whomp - Sesn - and Bede all currently wear my designs (or modifications).

Any requests for the banner? Ideas? or do I just wing it?

Note: I will do the graphics for it on Sat.

As Minister of the Ineterior (decorating that is) I have a pretty good jump on this team as Whomp - Sesn - and Bede all currently wear my designs (or modifications).I do not believe you will ever convince me to change my avatar :D. Or will you?

During the summer I can probably be on anytime from noon to 5 pm EST, so that would be...5 pm to 10 pm GMT? I think...

When school starts again, my time will be limited, but we'll deal with that when the time comes.

All of my "Avataring" is not changing. Sometimes it is tweaking or improving...we'll see

Hi I'm checking in, still a bit puzzled which forum to go to though... the PBEM or will this one do for the time being? (In case you were wondering, I have never participated in a demo game, nor a SG :) )

Many things have apparently already been decided on... I don't get the enthusiam for the English, nor am I a big fan of the Mayan UU, but hey... I like a challenge ;)

Welcome aboard Crakie. Most of us know each other pretty well and consist of a bunch of idiots and grumpy old men. We have plenty of SG experience but not PBEM experience. Barbu is our most experienced PBEM player and I am playing my first in a locked alliance vs. the Russian Forum. My civ is the Iroquois and I'm #1 score, economy, pop etc. :smug:
Not too tough to do with the Iroquois after 43 turns
Tell us your dealio? Strengths, weaknesses, anything else of interest?
I also hope we get the Iroquois or Celts. If not we may have to rush the other civ on our continent into a despotic GA.

Tell us your dealio? Strengths, weaknesses, anything else of interest?
I also hope we get the Iroquois or Celts. If not we may have to rush the other civ on our continent into a despotic GA.

Well, my obvious weakness is not having played Civ in multiplayer mode ever... It will be a learning experience for me, because I suspect it will be a whole different ball game ;) Against AI's I recently managed a DG win, albeit with 'easy' parameters (Byzantines, archipelago). I do well on Emperor games though... the extra settler on DG is killing me! I have no specific style, I value infrastructure as much as offensive military strength :)

In real life I'm a 27 year old Ph.D. student in Organic Chemistry, although 'student' is misleading as in my country (The Netherlands) it's a paid job. I played Unreal Tournament competitively years ago, but Civ is my only love now. Other hobbies include alcoholic beverages, formula 1 racing and soccer.

Your turn!

It's the first MP game for most of us. So that's not much of a weekness.

Position as Plenipotentiary gladly accepted, I think.

:hatsoff: to Crakie, barbu, Darwin.

As an introduction to those who have not had the misfortune to make my acquaintance previously:

Well known in the SG community.
Fair to muddling as a GOTM/COTM player.
Bull headed war monger: build a big force and take it straight to 'em.
Hate corruption and waste. Will build a courthouse in the capitol to get rid of those lingering red icons.
Love to build harbors and markets and banks.
Will only build Industrial Age and Modern Era Great Wonders. Decided a long time ago the others aren't worth it. Only exception is Smith's Trading Company but I prefer to capture it.
Never played a DemoGame or a PBEM.

I'm available almost every evening except when I'm working in the bookstore. Have been known to play three SG's in a row (7PM to 4AM) and then go to work at 1:00 PM.

Me?
Well I guess I'm the one to blame for bringing most of this crew together. I must admit I am completely biased so I chose people I think are fun and who "got game".

This team is all of that.

My PBEM experience has just started with a PBEM vs the Russian Forum. Tomoyo, RegentMan and I are in a locked alliance on one continent versus the Russian forum on the other. We are doing very well so far on score. We are approaching the end of the AA and turn 44. No combat yet so it's still too early too tell.

Most of my skills have been developed in the SG forum. The last 7-8 months have been a awesome fun and learning this complex game.
An example of a piece of that learning that will definitely come into play in this game is building reg and vet ships. Load the most valuable units in the regs and lesser ones in the vets. This way if you come under siege the vet will defend first.
I can also see how the "bikini babe trick" can work on humans too.

I consider myself to be a warmongering fool. I see no reason to build a Wonder other than as Bede said until later in the game. My biggest weakness is on the corrupt cities. What specialist? What build to use? I'm learning.

I think I'm a solid emperor but have won solo on DG and will almost certainly win a solo arch deity game I'm playing now. I am about to hammer the #2 on the 2nd island I now share with them and #3 is distant.

I can't wait to get this rolling! Let's have some fun.

Well, I guess since everyone else is jumping off the bridge, I don't wanna be left standing alone. :crazyeye:

As far as my playing style, I guess the best summary is this: I have one a single cultural (LKsomething), a couple space, maybe one diplo, and a couple of histos in the dozens, or perhaps hundreds of games I have played. Like Bede and Whomp, I say give me arty, and lots of em, and bring the hammer down! :hammer:

I guess I'd say I'm a fair to middling player, though I rarely play any solo games. I think the highest solo I've played is DG, and that one sort of petered off when I felt it was already pretty much won.

I've played in a lot of games here on the forums, and it amazes me how much I have and still am learning playing in SG's. I've played in some incredibly fun games here, and got a bit addicted. After Rl forced a layoff for me, I've just started to get back into the swing of things around here. And I'm a bit wiser about the addiction too. ;)

Oh as far as PBEM goes, none of that thus far. This game will pop the cherry, so to speak. :D

OK, my turn.

16 years old, so I'm not a grumpy old man :(. Idiot, then.
And I don't drink :D

I play C3C Deity, usually win, but I'm still not ready for the big jump or for a Deity milking game.

My style: Totally builder. Most of my games are played with 0 military, except for MP. I try to lead in techs, and get gpt for them. Untill last month, I only had 3 types of victory: 2 dominations, the rest were UN and SS. For HoF purposes, I needen at least one victory of each type, and so I did.

My SG experience is limited, because I haven't played a single SG from the start to the end. I joined one near the end, and the second was abandoned. :( Currently I'm in MP6 and Tribute1.

No PBEM, no DG. I submitted a couple of GOTM's, one of them was conquest defeat on Regent. But then I quit.

And I'm a QM :)

oooh oooh me next.....

I'm 28 and I'm a Loser.

I started the Loser SG series where I met most of the people in this group. I'm improved my game during those games from sometimes wins Regent to usually wins Emperor. You can see my xOTM progress in my signature. My military style was mostly learned from dman. The basic premise is hit 'em hard with fast units.

I played in SGOTM6 and won a nice wooden spoon for our 167k culture victory. I lurked in SGOTM7 under Bede's team. So I guess I have 2 spoons but not really. So I started recruiting for Team Wooden Spoon in SGOTM8. The Team's full now but feel free to lurk once it starts if your not in another team.

No PBEM, No DG.

I was once playing 6 SG's + 2 xOTM and my wife threatened to take my Civ CD. So I laid low for ~2 months then started easing back in. Right now I'm finishing TR04 (5CC diety) SS race and that's about it.

I can see your xOTM results improved dramaticaly between GOTM 39 and COTM 9. How?

You showed your's, I'll show you mine...

I'm 27 and I'm an Idiotic northen frog.

I have non xGOTM experience, After learning about another civ site that played diplomacy, I've been there and learned alot about PBEM, I've played my firsts this spring. That site also played in the multi site demo-game (like this game) and is now into the finals. (one great thing about PBEM, is that you get rid of the one more turn syndrome)

Before multi player, I was the the extreme builder type of player waging war only when attacked or in serious need of a ressource.

In multi-player, 2 thing come in to play, real human diplomacy and real human strategy. So you need to have a real army to not appear as an easy target and when another human attacks you, you do not get time turnaround and build defence, you are already dead.

Good stuff Barbu. You and Grille will be invaluable memebers :lol: to our team.
Out of curiousity when (if) we sign a ROP, do you limit the number of units allowed inside your borders? This seems to make sense to me that we would only allow say 2 or 3 units inside our borders.

I can see your xOTM results improved dramaticaly between GOTM 39 and COTM 9. How?
COTM 9 was after TR01 was well on it's way. dman taught me a lot about the AI during the beginning of the that game. Bede's since of style came about in TR02 and he has helped me beat the AI with a little more class.

Well, guess it's my turn.

I'm 17 (actually, I thought I was the youngest on the team--guess not! Hi Pentium! :D ) and I'll be a Senior this year. I've lived in Maine (also thought I was alone on this--Hi Darwin! :D ) for 2 years now, after moving from Massachusetts at the end of my Freshman year.

I'm a warmongerer. In my current Emperor solo game as the Mayans, I killed off two AIs with Javelin Throwers. I also can't seem to finish this game. I swear, I've been playing this since before Christmas. :crazyeye: I have won each Victory Condition at least once. Although, if it weren't for SGs, I'm not sure if I ever would have won some of them (20k, for instance).

I've started the last 3 COTMs, but haven't been able to finish any of them (I'm still at 1250 BC for COTM 14 :mischief: ). I've only been in SGOTM7 on Team Obormot, and I'll be on that team again in SGOTM8.

Never played a DG or PBEM.

Hello, me grumpy idiot got shanghaid into this one.

Well, guess it's my turn.

I'm 17 (actually, I thought I was the youngest on the team--guess not! Hi Pentium! :D ) and I'll be a Senior this year.

When you were born, I must have been almost a senior.:hmm:
Guess I'll be a zombie this year.
And it does make sense; no surprise other teams' members have a rotten smell in their nose: :D
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2940878&postcount=15
I can easily relate to the snaffle-bit team logo! :goodjob:

So. I have nada GOTM experience but enjoy PBEMs. I'm just a shanghaid idiot.:)

Here goes:
Started playing in feb this year and has slowly but steadily progressed to DG-level mostly thanx to SG's with excellent advisors like Bede, Whomp, Doc T and Original Idiot AK. Soul_W tought me the jive sort of.
I'm still learning a lot so I haven't adapted any hard core strat yet. I do like to build a solid foundation for massive attacks thou and I'm probably not that much of a risk taker. I'm very found of the arty stuff when it comes to :hammer:. I'm so so on MM'ing and a middle range trader. I guess adapting a long term strat based upon a changing scenario is my strenght. My weakness is I still do stupid mistakes, ha, ha.
I'm currently pestering the world as an ever expanding Russia (hooray for cossack armies) in GOTM and has a Mayan Deity that could well turn out a space victory (easy settings a lá HoF).
Never played Demo or pbem so more learning to do.
On the side I'm almost dead, born in -66, and make my living by programming the guy programming your computer (psychologist). I also play drums in an alt.country outfit named Sixpack Holiday.
Looking forward to a tounge in cheek game with this cheerful crew.

@Whomp
Blind Idiot is fine
Usually online about 6PM-11PM GMT, but that changes a lot as do RL.

My, my, my :) What a strange bunch we are :) From Seniors to Zombies in just 2 posts :P

Well, I'm as new as it gets when it comes to CivIII and everything related to it :P 27 years old with boring life.
Loved games and gaming untill a 1-2 years ago. Got fed up by all the elite players butchering newbies and bragging about it. I was mostly RTS and FPS type of player. Long story short I read somewhere about this mod for CivIII (rise and rule) and guy was writing with such fire that I had to check it out. Got here in search for mod, made my little thread, went to store and found CivIII and conquests for like lower than bargain bin. Thought what the heck, I still have my Guild Wars unopened :P

Rest is history... Can't even sleep at night without thinking about Civ :P I actually dreamt about my game at least twice so far.

Enough of me babbling. I'm currently playing an (for me) epic game on Monarch. Off course I would never been able to get this far without help from Bede and rest of you. I'm winning big time and I want to make my first Conquest victory :P As I'm still learning I'll be here to absorb every single word, so please no dirty stuff :P

I usually hang on forums whole time while I work (I'm IT-engineer but work as hmmm how do you call it, Customs Clearence Agent is my title but I just like write down stuff from a bunch of papers), when at home I play and keep an eye for interessting threads in Tips & Tricks and General Discussions :)
Everything is so new for me so please bare with and my questions :P

OT
Bede I sooooo envy you! Only job better than yours is reading those books :P

well, missed this one as well.
but like Sid once said, never mind the bollocks ( melhisedek, please UNREAD this part :D)

a brief outline to the glorious career of the Jive Talker, the Punky Funky and just plain Wackey, Soul Warrior.
33 years old. as old as Xman was, and julius is still huntng for me. goodthing i've given the secret of Currency to Judas in exchange for Peace and 30g.
now i can relax abit before the romans string me up on the cross.

started civving about 3 years ago, but got really hooked about a year ago, right before i joined this glorious forum (oops, a roman place. must flee....)

dayjob is IT. in a water engineering company.
night job? DJ. mostly now i just do it for fun, so i play whatever i feel like, absorbing huge amounts of Alcohol through the air (as my mouth is usually either busy kissing the pint, or kissing the clientle)

like most of you have robably noticed, i can be a bit hard to understand.
its not me! its the voices that made me do it!

a bit of shameless promotion....
check my sig for the type for music i play.
i might even put up my new mix cd there if asked (preferably by 2 nubile, 19-22 year old babes. you can sort of pick my style if you look at my posts on the Babe Thread)

a small disclaimer...
if you are offended by anything i EVER say here, please dont be. i dont mean to offend anyone (not regarding religion [see above], race or whatever) except Bloody terrorists, that should all be hung, drawn and quartered. Racists and Rapists that should be set upon MEDIEVAL style and just plain rude people. if a girl is REALLY nice looking, she can be rude to me. i dont mind. itmight even be fun :devil:

ok, i think enough civ for today.

a final note of thanks to ALL members of the Academy for giving this reward, the venerable teacher for putting up with my nonsense, and barbslinger for putting a ruleset onto my civving life. :worship: the :beer:

now a really final note.
as some have noticed it was my BDay about 10 days ago (cant really remember much) and ive been knackered ever since. i guess i will have to rest up for another week or so to be back at full capacity.

if my turn comes up, PM me and ill get it in upto 4 hours (unless im sleeping)

location of my body is GMT+1 (isreal) but my soul is in London.

goodnight everybody :sleep:

Must be my turn. :)

I've noticed in the discussion of individual titles there are a couple of Grumpy Old Men here, so I'd like to claim Grumpy Old Grandma or something similar...Grumpy Granny?...Ancient Crone???. I'm 63. :D

I played my first Civ game last November, and I'm pretty steady on Regent now. I'm a peaceful builder type, played one Warlord AW before moving up to Regent in June, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the current AWR game I wanted to do before moving up to Monarch. Most of my wins have been SS.

I've never played anything other than solo epic games, but I've followed several SGs, beginning with the "endless" GK01 Training Day. :lol: I've followed other SGs with Bede, Own, and Whomp in them, so I feel like I kinda know some of you and you've taught me a great deal. I hope that learning will continue and look forward to direct guidance.

I live in California (GMT -7) and am usually available from 4-10 pm PDT weekdays and often the middle of the night on weekends (playing Civ, of course). I'm an accountant for a tiny non-profit corporation, and my busiest time of year is from July 1 through the end of the first week in September, so I won't always be around quite as much for the next month. After that I'm all yours.

Welcome again, Ancient Crone (I like it!).

Here is an invitation to join the next of the TGOM games. I like to play them on Emperor and if you can handle AWR, you are definitely ready to move up...

Welcome again, Ancient Crone (I like it!).

Here is an invitation to join the next of the TGOM games. I like to play them on Emperor and if you can handle AWR, you are definitely ready to move up...
TGOM??? I know about GOTM, COTM and SGOTM, but T? :confused:

Oooohhhhhhh, Training!!!!!!!! Right? Kinda like you're doing with the Team Bede Gets to Know Each Other? I've been following that one. If that's what you have in mind, yes, and I'm absolutely thrilled!!!

BTW, on some other types of bulletin boards I've used Venerable Crone, which I tell people means either "old wise woman" OR "wise-a$$ old woman"....take your choice. :mischief:

The Venerable Bede and the Venerable Crone: what a team!

Actually TGOM stands for The Grumpy Old Monk and sometimes it's for training, sometimes just for fun.

Actually TGOM stands for The Grumpy Old Monk and sometimes it's for training, sometimes just for fun.
I should have known. I've seen you call yourself that many times. ;)

Just for fun would be enjoyable too, but you're well aware of my playing level now. I'll count on you to let me know how you'd want to deal with that. :)

I know we have some music freaks in here e.g. Whomp and Soul (Biggest freak Lullaby a.k.a. The Prog Germ is missing), so I figured I might do promo for a swedish alt.country/americana outfit I saw the other day. They're off to Nashville next week to play a big americana "convetion" and they're absolutely spiffing if you dig that stuff. Sound clips at www.willyclayband.com , enjoy.

Edit: The Original Idiot has entered the Ship of Fools. Welcome AK :band:

Edit II: Welcome Nikodemus and Tomasz. Hope you will enjoy our friendly anarchy.