View Full Version : Difficulty Level


Black_Hole
Jul 22, 2005, 11:38 AM
This has not yet been polled...
We will be playing a 5BC, meaning 5 built cities and 1 city per enemy

Note: Poll is open for 4 days and is public

edit: Sorry, I forgot Abstain :blush:

Black_Hole
Jul 22, 2005, 09:53 PM
One thing for discussion:
Should this be weighed? As in the same way it was done on the 5BC poll, we start from the top end and find 1 more than halfway.... I am sure people voting for Sid would prefer Emperor over Monarch

CivGeneral
Jul 22, 2005, 10:47 PM
We should stick with the Monarch-Emperor Range in this game.

One thing for discussion:
Should this be weighed? As in the same way it was done on the 5BC poll, we start from the top end and find 1 more than halfway.... I am sure people voting for Sid would prefer Emperor over Monarch
No weighing the polls please :eek:.

Octavian X
Jul 23, 2005, 02:29 AM
Don't weight the poor thing: it might not be able to stand the stress. :p

Seriously, though, the poll will run best with simple input on the subject. Speaking of which, I think monarch's the way to go. Some of us are stepping into unfamiliar territory with this variant.

Black_Hole
Jul 23, 2005, 09:13 AM
Moderator: Please change my vote to emperor, even I can win a 5CC on monarch, and that's saying something :lol:

Vote changed.

DaveShack
Jul 23, 2005, 05:03 PM
[puts on unofficial organizer hat]

On the question of how this poll should be scored, we will use the "spectrum" or "cumulative" method. Scan the list from one end (either one), the first option to get a majority is the winner. If there is a tie then we need a runoff poll for the two middle options. Abstain doesn't count.

classical_hero
Jul 24, 2005, 12:24 AM
Why don't we go up a level. We won easily last time, and that was on emporer, so let's make it more of a challenge.

DaveShack
Jul 24, 2005, 03:17 AM
Very interesting. In cumulative voting terms it now stands Monarch 10, Emperor 10. The mathematically correct answer (if there were any precedent for weighted averaging) is Emperor at this time, given how many votes are way out there at Sid level. :wow: The Sid votes would be almost enough to skew it out to Demigod.

CivGeneral
Jul 24, 2005, 05:29 PM
Don't weight the poor thing: it might not be able to stand the stress. :p

Seriously, though, the poll will run best with simple input on the subject. Speaking of which, I think monarch's the way to go. Some of us are stepping into unfamiliar territory with this variant.
I agree with Oct to the tenth power.

Fallensmith
Jul 24, 2005, 06:01 PM
Seeing as how dominating the advantages of a Micromanaging Human player are over an AI, even with 5BC, I think Emperor might represent a "fair" game.

Rik Meleet
Jul 24, 2005, 06:42 PM
Some light on this.
The difficulty level in these games only influence 2 things:
1 - Unhappyness.
2 - success against barbarians.
The rest of the things it influences in a game where there is AI (AI trading, AI production reduction, AI starting units etc.) doesn't play a role as there is no AI.
That means that a "higher" difficulty level isn't that much of an impact, you just need to control happyness.

RegentMan
Jul 24, 2005, 06:48 PM
Some light on this.
The difficulty level in these games only influence 2 things:
1 - Unhappyness.
2 - success against barbarians.
The rest of the things it influences in a game where there is AI (AI trading, AI production reduction, AI starting units etc.) doesn't play a role as there is no AI.
That means that a "higher" difficulty level isn't that much of an impact, you just need to control happyness.
Rik - this is for DGVII, not the MTDG. Go to bed! :p

MeteorPunch
Jul 25, 2005, 04:40 AM
We're the people that voted for Sid joking? They should explain themselves for trying to make us suffer a humiliating defeat. :mischief:

Own
Jul 25, 2005, 08:54 AM
I haven't looked into DG before, are there no opponents? Or is Rik :smoke: ? If there is a poll for literally every move, I think sid would be easy.

MeteorPunch
Jul 25, 2005, 10:37 AM
@Own: it's 5CC. you have to remember that between dozens of squabbling civ fanatics, the best decisions are not always made. :D

classical_hero
Jul 25, 2005, 10:40 AM
No, It is 5BC. It is five built cities and any number that we have agreed upon with the captured cities. With this we could still win by domintation, if we have n unlimited no. of cpature cities.

Own
Jul 25, 2005, 10:50 AM
I think unlimited cities should be allowed to be captured.

Black_Hole
Jul 25, 2005, 10:57 AM
No, It is 5BC. It is five built cities and any number that we have agreed upon with the captured cities. With this we could still win by domintation, if we have n unlimited no. of cpature cities.
no its only 1 captured per enemy civ... we can't win by domination...

Own
Jul 25, 2005, 01:28 PM
So it's a 5+# of enemy civs CC?

ravensfire
Jul 25, 2005, 01:37 PM
So it's a 5+# of enemy civs CC?

Correct. Well, it's actually 5 built + 1 captured per civ. In other words, you can capture one city from each civ, but cannot capture two from civ A, and none from Civ B.

-- Ravensfire

Whomp
Jul 25, 2005, 01:37 PM
So it's a 5+# of enemy civs CC?Ah Grasshoppah.
This is the wrong thread. They are both called demogame VII but the one you are looking for is the "multi team" Demogame VII

Own
Jul 25, 2005, 01:45 PM
I know, I've joined demogame 7 and multi team demogame.

RegentMan
Jul 25, 2005, 01:47 PM
We're the people that voted for Sid joking? They should explain themselves for trying to make us suffer a humiliating defeat. :mischief:
I think a 5BC, at sid, with us squabbling CFCers would make for an interesting game.

Whomp
Jul 25, 2005, 01:47 PM
I know, I've joined demogame 7 and multi team demogame.
Oh...my bad.

Own
Jul 25, 2005, 01:59 PM
I think a 5BC, at sid, with us squabbling CFCers would make for an interesting game.
Yeah, on Sid we'll only be able to build five cities :lol: . OCC AWS has been done so I think this can be too.

ravensfire
Jul 26, 2005, 12:24 PM
Poll totals:
level - votes - individual percent - cumulative percent

Chieftan - 0 (0%) (0%)
Warlord - 0 (0%) (0%)
Regent - 3 (9.68%) (9.68%)
Monarch - 8 (25.81%) (35.49%)
Emperor - 10 (32.26%) (67.75%)
Demi-God - 4 (12.90%) (80.65%)
Deity - 0 (0%) (80.65%)
Sid - 6 (19.35%) (100.00%)

Our level of difficulty is Emperor

-- Ravensfire

greekguy
Jul 26, 2005, 12:28 PM
I think a few of those people didn't post in the citizen registry, so their vote doesn't count. the ones i just saw were BigNHuge and NeoT. does that change the result in any way?

Whomp
Jul 26, 2005, 12:34 PM
It's done and done. RegentMan only counted the UN rep votes.
Everything is set.

greekguy
Jul 26, 2005, 12:37 PM
It's done and done. RegentMan only counted the UN rep votes.
Everything is set.

You do know this is for DGVII and not the MTDG?

ravensfire
Jul 26, 2005, 12:44 PM
I think a few of those people didn't post in the citizen registry, so their vote doesn't count. the ones i just saw were BigNHuge and NeoT. does that change the result in any way?

My initial response is that is shouldn't matter because we haven't started yet - why exclude people that might not know they should register.

PM's sent to BigNHuge, NeoT and Provolution - all who voted but did not register.

I did review the results, and the decision did not change.

If we adjusted for non-citizens, results would be:
0
0
2
8
9
3
0
6

Emperor would still win based on absolute or cumulative.

-- Ravensfire

greekguy
Jul 26, 2005, 12:45 PM
My initial response is that is shouldn't matter because we haven't started yet - why exclude people that might not know they should register.

PM's sent to BigNHuge, NeoT and Provolution - all who voted but did not register.

I did review the results, and the decision did not change.

If we adjusted for non-citizens, results would be:
0
0
2
8
9
3
0
6

Emperor would still win based on absolute or cumulative.

-- Ravensfire

ok. thanks, just checking. :)

Whomp
Jul 26, 2005, 12:50 PM
Oops sorry greekguy. I wish idiot's could read. :blush: