Something slightly harder ...... Name the following : -

1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism.
2) This kingdom fought against the Chinese and the Khitans, then the Jurchens and finally succumbed to the Mongols.
3) This kingdom is the first to convert to Christianity in the world.
4) This people provided the Mongol Yuan dynasty with heavy cavalry (i.e. knights, lances, armor and the like).
5) This people founded and lived in Veii.
6) This mountain kingdom was once subdued by the Manchus and remained a tributary state until the end of the Manchus' reign in China.
7) This people sacked Rome itself .... in the 5th or 6th century BC.
8) This people were famous merchants along the Silk Road and thru out Central Asia.
9) This people instituted land reforms (namely giving land to peasants in return for military service) which would later form the basis of power for the Sui and Tang dynasties of China.
10) The king of this kingdom was reputed to be very rich and everything he touched turned to gold. :eek:

Good luck! :D

2 Gold

7. Vandals?

10. Midas of Crete (The original be careful what you wish for...)

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
Something slightly harder ...... Name the following : -

1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism. ---ethiopia
2) This kingdom fought against the Chinese and the Khitans, then the Jurchens and finally succumbed to the Mongols.
3) This kingdom is the first to convert to Christianity in the world. armenia
4) This people provided the Mongol Yuan dynasty with heavy cavalry (i.e. knights, lances, armor and the like).
5) This people founded and lived in Veii.etruscans?
6) This mountain kingdom was once subdued by the Manchus and remained a tributary state until the end of the Manchus' reign in China.
7) This people sacked Rome itself .... in the 5th or 6th century BC.vandals?
8) This people were famous merchants along the Silk Road and thru out Central Asia.
9) This people instituted land reforms (namely giving land to peasants in return for military service) which would later form the basis of power for the Sui and Tang dynasties of China.
10) The king of this kingdom was reputed to be very rich and everything he touched turned to gold. :eek:
Mmidas from lidia
Good luck! :D

Originally posted by kobayashi
2 Gold Gold? What do you mean? :confused:

Originally posted by knowltok
7. Vandals?

10. Midas of Crete (The original be careful what you wish for...) 7) No, not Vandals. No Vandals (or Germanic tribes) in the 6th or 5th century BC.

10) It's King Midas alright but the kingdom is not Crete. ;)

Replies by Kublai-Khan : -

"1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism. ---ethiopia"

No.

"3) This kingdom is the first to convert to Christianity in the world. armenia"

Correct!

"5) This people founded and lived in Veii.etruscans?"

Correct! I was half-expecting someone to answer Romans .... :)

"7) This people sacked Rome itself .... in the 5th or 6th century BC.vandals?"

Nope.

"10) The king of this kingdom was reputed to be very rich and everything he touched turned to gold.
Mmidas from lidia"

Yep, it's the kingdom of Lydia in Asia Minor, later conquered by Cyrus the Great of Persia.

Good job, Kublai! :goodjob:

I am really intrigued about the first one,
i have no idea.

1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism.
Maltese (Island of Malta) <<< wild guess

2) This kingdom fought against the Chinese and the Khitans, then the Jurchens and finally succumbed to the Mongols.
Another wild guess , the Loreans?

3) This kingdom is the first to convert to Christianity in the world.
Armenia (already answered)

4) This people provided the Mongol Yuan dynasty with heavy cavalry (i.e. knights, lances, armor and the like).
not sure, but they got it via Merchants (maybe the Venetians?)

5) This people founded and lived in Veii.
Etruscans (already answered)

6) This mountain kingdom was once subdued by the Manchus and remained a tributary state until the end of the Manchus' reign in China.
either Nepal or Tibet (am I close?)

7) This people sacked Rome itself .... in the 5th or 6th century BC.
Ummm, the Rome did split into sections around this time, but did it actually get sacked???

8) This people were famous merchants along the Silk Road and thru out Central Asia.
Venetians (Marco Polo - merchant of Venice)

9) This people instituted land reforms (namely giving land to peasants in return for military service) which would later form the basis of power for the Sui and Tang dynasties of China.
No idea

10) The king of this kingdom was reputed to be very rich and everything he touched turned to gold.
King Midas (Lydia) - previously answered

"1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism.
Maltese (Island of Malta) <<< wild guess"

Your wild guess is ..... wrong. :)

"2) This kingdom fought against the Chinese and the Khitans, then the Jurchens and finally succumbed to the Mongols.
Another wild guess , the Loreans?"

I assume you mean Koreans. Nope, the Khitans and Jurchens after them actually ruled Korea (the northern parts).

"4) This people provided the Mongol Yuan dynasty with heavy cavalry (i.e. knights, lances, armor and the like).
not sure, but they got it via Merchants (maybe the Venetians?)"

No. A few thousand of these tribesmen were permanently camped in the Mongol Yuan military camp outside their capital. They formed part of the Yuan's elite troops.

"6) This mountain kingdom was once subdued by the Manchus and remained a tributary state until the end of the Manchus' reign in China.
either Nepal or Tibet (am I close?)"

Correct answer is Nepal. :goodjob: Tibet was under direct Manchu rule cos the Mongols were affliated to Lamaism. In order to control them, the Qing court needed to control their religious focal point.

"7) This people sacked Rome itself .... in the 5th or 6th century BC.
Ummm, the Rome did split into sections around this time, but did it actually get sacked???"

Yes, it got sacked. One of the reasons the Romans were so militaristic. Still gave them nightmares centuries later.

"8) This people were famous merchants along the Silk Road and thru out Central Asia.
Venetians (Marco Polo - merchant of Venice)"

No. Venetians were a .... novelty along the Silk Road. ;) Not many made it past the Moslems.

Originally posted by Kublai-Khan
I am really intrigued about the first one,
i have no idea. You'll just have to hang around till I give the answer but I'm sure someone knows ..... :)

BTW, read in the news there're looting and some chaos in Argentina. Hope you're OK over there.

the goths sacked rome
it was one of the groups of the goths, i don´t remember wich one.

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
You'll just have to hang around till I give the answer but I'm sure someone knows ..... :)

BTW, read in the news there're looting and some chaos in Argentina. Hope you're OK over there.

Everything is wrong and i want to cry,
the supermarkets all along the city are being sacked by people that are not doing that becouse they are hungry , they are activists that want to.....
i don´t know what they want!:(
now there is something similar to martial law
no more than 2 people can be on the street.
It all sucks
I am afraid of losing democracy and having a military coup in power.
Maybe it will be necesary
the romans put dictators in the governmnet when the situation was too critic.
I will really rejoice rejoice!
if all the politicians loose their lives,
their are the responsibles of our situation, it is imposible to have worst politiciansthan ours they are a gang of thieves.



I can´t believe i just said that!
all is wrong
it is sad becouse argentina used to be a country with a really high standar of life ,
it is the culmination of a 25 years process, a process of decadence
and something big is going to happen.

Originally posted by Kublai-Khan
the goths sacked rome
it was one of the groups of the goths, i don´t remember wich one. Not Goths. Remember this is the 6th-5th century BC. No Goths then. ;)

Originally posted by Kublai-Khan
Everything is wrong and i want to cry,
the supermarkets all along the city are being sacked by people that are not doing that becouse they are hungry , they are activists that want to.....
i don´t know what they want!:(
now there is something similar to martial law
no more than 2 people can be on the street.
It all sucks
I am afraid of losing democracy and having a military coup in power.
Maybe it will be necesary
the romans put dictators in the governmnet when the situation was too critic.
I will really rejoice rejoice!
if all the politicians loose their lives,
their are the responsibles of our situation, it is imposible to have worst politiciansthan ours they are a gang of thieves.

I can´t believe i just said that!
all is wrong
it is sad becouse argentina used to be a country with a really high standar of life ,
it is the culmination of a 25 years process, a process of decadence
and something big is going to happen. You have my greatest sympathies and I really hope your country will turn out OK. We all have our bad patches, I guess ......

I can´t believe that Argentina appeared in the news in Singapur,
the world must be looking at us
and under such a pathetic situation.
Well
this thread is not about argentina
i won´t bother you with this anymore.
excuse me.

Questions 1), 2), 4), 7), 8) and 9) remaining .....

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
Not Goths. Remember this is the 6th-5th century BC. No Goths then. ;)

Then it was have been the Gaulois, led by Brennus, who actually didn't exist at all according to many historians. This name comes from old gallic Brenn which means "leader".

The story is famous, he asked for ransom in gold, and used a big scale to weigh a large amount of gold. When the romans complained that it was too much, he threw his weapons on the scale and said "Vae Victis" which means "Woe betide the defeated". But I think it's a legend anyway. I don't think hecould speak latin anyway.

Originally posted by jacques
Then it was have been the Gaulois, led by Brennus, who actually didn't exist at all according to many historians. This name comes from old gallic Brenn which means "leader".

The story is famous, he asked for ransom in gold, and used a big scale to weigh a large amount of gold. When the romans complained that it was too much, he threw his weapons on the scale and said "Vae Victis" which means "Woe betide the defeated". But I think it's a legend anyway. I don't think hecould speak latin anyway. Correct! :goodjob: The more accurate answer would be the Cisalphine Gauls i.e. those who had migrated and settled in the Po valley of Northern Italy. They sacked Rome in 387 BC.

Questions 1), 2), 4), 8), 9) remaining ..... Harder, aren't they? :D

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon

"3) This kingdom is the first to convert to Christianity in the world. armenia"

Correct!


Actually I thought it was the assyrians. But I'm not quite sure they had a kingdom. Or maybe assyrians lived in Armenia?

But the oldest christian church in the world was the Assyrian Church of the East, in the city of Edessa.

Originally posted by jacques
Actually I thought it was the assyrians. But I'm not quite sure they had a kingdom. Or maybe assyrians lived in Armenia?

But the oldest christian church in the world was the Assyrian Church of the East, in the city of Edessa. The Assyrians were long gone by the time of Jesus. This was the time of the Romans and the Parthians. ;) The Assyrians had a great empire but their wars of conquest were very brutal and genocidal; eventually their enemies banded together and destroyed them. Even levelled Nineveh and killed everyone.

You may be right about the oldest church but my question is regarding the first Christian state in the world. ;)

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
Even levelled Nineveh and killed everyone.


Well they didn't kill everybody.
If you're interested, you can have a look at this article:

http://www.aina.org/aol/peter/brief.htm#33

1) seeing as they were the first and ONLY country to officialy convert to judaism, it can't is Israel can it?

4) Heavy calvary. Could it be Georgia?

1) seeing as they were the first and ONLY country to officialy convert to judaism, it can't is Israel can it?Of coz not. I mean the first and only foreign country. ;)

4) Heavy calvary. Could it be Georgia?Very good, you're close to the region. Now, tell me the name of the people ....

1) My answer would be Gibeon. Looks to me like they converted to Judaism in Joshua 9 of the Bible.

bump

3) Rome?
5) Etruscs, or how are they spelled in english language...
7) Western-Goths.

Darn, I cannot understand some of the words :o! More engrish lessons...

Originally posted by tetley
1)My answer would be Gibeon. Looks to me like they converted to Judaism in Joshua 9 of the Bible. I am not sure what or where is Gibeon. Thus that's not the answer I am looking for, sorry. :) Besides, I have never read the Bible.

Hint : The empire I am looking for was probably a thousand times more powerful than Gibeon. They were a formidable ally of the Byzantines and together, helped turned back the Arab Islamic tide fr Anatolia IIRC.

Originally posted by Juize
3) Rome?
5) Etruscs, or how are they spelled in english language...
7) Western-Goths.

Darn, I cannot understand some of the words :o! More engrish lessons... Only 5) is correct. 3) is Armenia and 7) is the Cisalphine Gauls as had been answered above.

You need more history lessons, rather than English lessons. ;)

Happy Christmas to ALL!!
Even the infidels;) :p


Knigh-Dragon
i think that you should answer the remainig questions,
it seems that no-one knows the answers.Including me.

Oops! :p Didn't forget, just a bit lazy ...

1) This people were the first and only nation to officially convert to Judaism.

The Khazars. A nomadic tribe who conquered a great part of the plains and grasslands north of the Caucasus. Allies of the Byzantines and drove the Arabs back fr the Caucasus. Although many Khazars were Christians, the King decided to convert to Judaism officially.

2) This kingdom fought against the Chinese and the Khitans, then the Jurchens and finally succumbed to the Mongols.

Xixia. Or Hsi-Hsia in the older format. Tangut Tibetans formed this kingdom in the present Ningxia region in China, around the 'bend' in the Yellow River. IIRC Genghis Khan died after subduing this people.

4) This people provided the Mongol Yuan dynasty with heavy cavalry (i.e. knights, lances, armor and the like).

The Christian Alans of the Caucasian region. Originally sent to the Mongol Yuan court by the Ilkhans of Persia and Mesopotamia, a few thousand of these tribesmen was always camped with the main Mongol force. Formed the heavy cavalry portion of the Mongol army. (The Mongols were more like horse-archers).

8) This people were famous merchants along the Silk Road and thru out Central Asia.

The Sogdians (spelling?). Marco Polo would have known them. These Central Asians dominated the East-West trade betw Byzantine, Islam and the West and China.

9) This people instituted land reforms (namely giving land to peasants in return for military service) which would later form the basis of power for the Sui and Tang dynasties of China.

The Toba Wei, a tribe of uncertain extraction, possibly proto-Mongol. They slowly seeped into N China in the aftermath of the Han collapse and organized their lands into tight parcels of land, peasant fiefholders and obligatory military service, thus providing themselves with a strong hold on the land they held and reliable military manpower.

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
The Sogdians (spelling?). Marco Polo would have known them. These Central Asians dominated the East-West trade betw Byzantine, Islam and the West and China.
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Sogdiana was a satrapy of the persian empire, it was the most northern satrapy in central asia, the biggest cities were Maracanda/Samarcanda and Bujara.
I am talking about the aquemaenid (don´t know how to spell it) empire, the ancient one.
It is strange
becouse the silk route developed through the middle ages, and the denomination sogdian was used in the antiquity, no in the middle ages.
But i am not sure.
Maybe the silk route was older.
I am really not sure, i don´t know much about central asia.

Sogdiana was a satrapy of the persian empire, it was the most northern satrapy in central asia, the biggest cities were Maracanda/Samarcanda and Bujara.
I am talking about the aquemaenid (don´t know how to spell it) empire, the ancient one.Maybe the name of the satrapy was based on the name of the tribe who lived there.

It is strange
becouse the silk route developed through the middle ages, and the denomination sogdian was used in the antiquity, no in the middle ages.
But i am not sure.
Maybe the silk route was older.
I am really not sure, i don´t know much about central asia. Now you made me unsure. :crazyeyes But I'm pretty sure they're around during the time of the Tang. The Silk Road started around the beginning of the Christian era, once a Chinese envoy made contact with the Kushans, who had been driven to the west by the Hsiung-nu.

Maybe someone in the know can confirm for us.