Here's a teaser:

http://www.civ3duelzone.com/forum/uploaded/Rik Meleet/2005726191829_--Kiss.JPG

Where are those whales I asked for? ;)
Is that BG under that cow? :eek:

Great... looks like there will be no iron on our continent, which we will share with the Greeks of course :D

Wow that's a location that only a Modded map can offer. I can't even get them that nice using Map Finder! :goodjob: You guys should have fun on that one.

Sweet. Settler factory here we come!!
I see no reason to move from the spot and move worker to the cow.

Does anyone use a spreadsheet for the start?
SirPleb's or Offa's spreadsheet?

I presume every civ has a 4-turn settler factory.

The question is, do they all have gold hills? I think they do, so the research will be quite fast in the AA.

By sharing the wheat and cow between two cities, we should be able to get two settler factories. I have not done the math though (I never do actually, but it seems doable). Is this worth it on a small map? Should we build an early second (third?) worker to accomplish this?

Resources will be the key.

We'll need to settle up the river and use our agri trait to the max available.

Resources will be the key.

We'll need to settle up the river and use our agri trait to the max available.
I have a pretty good feeling there will be access to resources and luxs unless Rik denied all resources critical to each civ.

I will try to find Offa's "the start" thread and load the spreadsheet Sir Pleb put up(seemed easier than Offa's). We may be able to put a 2nd city in on the flood plain and get a worker factory going too.

O/T I don't know how the team feels about smack talking but I prefer to keep a low profile and talk with our "big stick" when the time comes.

Just like TR, speak softly and carry a big stick. If we have to go to war, I'd be very happy to play those turns. :hammer:

Just like TR, speak softly and carry a big stick. If we have to go to war, I'd be very happy to play those turns. :hammer::lol: "Aspiring Amateur"

Just so you know: Wines do not give a food bonus. They give +2 gold instead.

smack talking? Is that when you're loaded on heroine? Remember the hardest drug available is wine :beer:

Good to see teammates with same view on hammering. Usually I wanna do 'em good when I do 'em.

That start has everything, high food, high gold, high shields, and a lux.

I think our second city should be a two turn worker factory, another settler factory is overkill.

I agree. We need to be careful about expanding too quickly. Our human neighbors won't hesitate to attack us if we aren't defended well enough.

OK turn is coming around to us so plant in place and move to cow. Right?

Plant in place and work the cow.

If I am goin to be Minister Plenipoteniary then Bugs has to be the Iron(fist)monger.

Yeah, settle on the spot and move to cow. Did you guys see the starting position of team Dougnut? No way we'll get iron without trading ;)

How do you see the starting positions?

Doughnut posted a turnlog in the main forum, I wasn't sure I was supposed to look at it but I did... and so did Whomp :)

Anyway, the freakin' HUGE difference in starts can IMHO only be made up for in lack of resources.

The post by the Doughnuts was a joke. Good one though.

The post by the Doughnuts was a joke. Good one though.
:rotfl:
Question is how much disinfo you can post officially and get away with. There's an avenue of dirty tricks to go...

Let's post our real start and they'll think we're joking. No benefit from it, just will be funny when they see our start in the game.

:lol: They got me :lol:

Good joke, though. :lol:

I knew it was one after Rik said "I'm as serious as the thread starter" or something. That just gave it away. :(

Well, I posted a rather grumpy reply which was ment to express my dissatisfaction with our start location beeing bad like Dough's. I won't post there again hoping someone thinks I'm ashamed of giving our start away.