View Full Version : My Epic Flavour Mod: Work in Progress


Arturus
Aug 08, 2005, 10:57 PM
I have been working to find units to add to my growing epic flavour mod. Right now, I am to make two separate mods. The first one will build directly on the Conquests game and hopefully will have a set of flavour units for every civilization. The second one will comprise of a modified tech tree and different unit catergories. For now, I am focusing on the first mod until I get it is reasonably complete. However, there are still many gaps so if any of you unit creators out there want a project I have several requests. At the end of the day, making a complete flavour set for each civilization is out of the question. Some civilizations will share units and some units aren't important enough to replace. However, where at all possible, if that civilization had something unique, at the end of the day, I would love to have it in this mod. In terms of matching time periods, for the most part it is my goal to to do but I don't want to sacrifice the use of potential unique units because I am sticking too close to a historical timeline. In addition, Civilization allows you to determine how empires rise so historical consistency only counts for so much.


The units I have found to use to date come from a wide variety of makers and I apologize in advance if I miss one of your names as I list them: Utahjazz, Kinboat, Aaglo, BeBro, Winter, Vingrjoe, La Dav, Ripptide, Embryodead, Dom Pedro II, and anyone I forgot who I will add to this list later.

Rome is one of my most complete lists so I thought I would paste it first and indicate the requests I have for anyone looking for a project.

So without further ado, here is my Rome list:

^ = Unique Unit
* = Flavour Unit
*** = New Unit for all Civs

If unit has been renamed original folder name appears in brackets

Scout --------------------
Settler ------------------
Worker -------------------
Explorer -----------------

Warrior ------------------ Gladiator*
Spearman ---------------- Roman Spearman (Roman Pikeman)*
Archer ------------------- Velites*
Swordsman --------------- Legionary (Imperial Legion replaces default)^
Pikeman ------------------
Longbowman ---------------
Medieval Infantry --------- Praetorian Guard (Centurion)*
Musketman --------------- Legionarii Fulinata*
Rifleman ------------------ Italian Rifleman (Italian WWI)*
Infantry ------------------ Industrial Legion*
Guerilla ------------------- Separatist*
Paratrooper --------------- Italian Paratrooper*
Marine -------------------
Modern Paratrooper -------
TOW Infantry ------------- Machine Gunner (M2 Team)***

Chariot ------------------- Roman Chariot (Etruscan Chariot)*
Horseman ---------------- Roman Auxiliary Cavalry*
Knight -------------------
Cavalry ------------------
Tank --------------------- P26/40* (Looking for an actual name)
Mechanized Infantry ------
Modern Armour ------------

Catapult ----------------- Scorpion (Roman Ballista)*
Trebuchet ----------------
Cannon -------------------
Artillery ----------------
Anti-Aircraft ------------
Mobile SAM ---------------
Radar Artillery ----------

Fighter ------------------
Bomber -------------------
Jet Fighter --------------
Stealth Fighter ----------
Stealth Bomber -----------
Helicoptor ---------------
Cruise Missile -----------
Tactical Missile ---------
ICBM ---------------------

Curragh ------------------
Galley ------------------- Tireme (Roman Tireme)*
Caravel ------------------
Galleon ------------------
Frigate ------------------
Privateer ---------------- Privateer (Pirate Frigate)***
Ironclad -----------------
Destroyer ----------------
Cruiser ------------------
Battleship ---------------
Transport ---------------- Transport (Cargo)***
Submarine ----------------
Aircraft Carrier ---------
Nuclear Submarine --------
AEGIS Cruiser ------------

For Rome, the units I would like to see filled are the Pikeman, Longbowman, Trebuchet, and Knight.

Pikeman - Something Roman looking, I am not very fussy on this one

Longbowman - I have the Velites for archers so a Roman Archer Auxiliary unit would work nicely here

Trebuchet - The Onager would replace this nicely

Knight - A Praetorian Cavalry unit would be fitting as it would match the Praetorian Guard for time frame (fictional time frame that is).

Commodore
Aug 09, 2005, 05:13 AM
This is just a suggestion, but you could use the Roman Spearman(I'm assuming it's zulu's Roman Pikeman) as your pikeman and aaglo's Roman Auxilia as your spearman.

I believe someone suggested in the thread for the Roman Siege Tower that it could be used for the Roman Trebuchet. I don't know if you want to use that, but it's an idea.

One final suggestion is that you could use Kinboat's Modern Legion for either your Marine or Modern Paratrooper.

Anyway, that's just my two cents, good luck with your mod! :goodjob:

EDIT: Just saw that Wyrmshadow made a Roman Grenadier unit, perhaps that could be the Roman Rifleman if you're looking for a more "Roman" version of that. I also just remembered that I once attempted a mod like this for my own personal use but never finished it. I didn't write anything down but I do remember some of the units I was going to use. If you want, I could post links to their threads and you can see if you like them or not.

Arturus
Aug 09, 2005, 02:04 PM
Thank you for your help Commodore. If you wouldn't mind posting those links it would be greatly appreciated.

As for your suggestions:

I believe the Industrial Legion is the Kinboat unit you are referring to but I will double-check. If so, I have it for infantry at the moment.

The siege tower is interresting but only good for well, seiging cities. It is less realistic to use it against stacks of units so I think I will leave my request for an Onager out there.

I haven't seen Wyrmshadow's Grenadier unit before but I will search for it.

As for Aaglo's spearman, I'll have to go double-check. I think I have it downloaded somewhere but replaced it with Zulu's.

Thanks again!

Commodore
Aug 09, 2005, 10:24 PM
I'll work on those links as soon as I can.

I know about the Industrial Legion, but Kinboat also made a modern legion, complete with a paradrop animation. Here's a link to the thread: Modern Legion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2339070)

As for aaglo's Auxilia, I was thinking it could be used for the spearman while zulu's would be used for the pikeman, but of course it's your mod and the decision is ultimately yours.

Your right about the siege tower only being good for cities, just throwing ideas out there for you :mischief: .

Also I just remembered that a couple weeks ago someone requested a Roman Industrial Age Cavalry, but I don't know if it ever got made or not.

Just in case you haven't checked it out already here's the link to Wyrmshadow's Grenadier: Roman Grenadier (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=120217)

That's all I have for now, I'll dig up those other threads and post them ASAP.

EDIT:That's not all, just remembered aaglo's Roman Archer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115384) could possibly pass as the Roman Longbowman(bless you aaglo :D ).

Commodore
Aug 10, 2005, 06:29 AM
Here is the first part of those links I promised you. These are the flavor units for the American Culture group I was going to use when I attempted a similar mod. I will do each post based on a certain culture group then move on to civ-specific flavor units. Don't wait for me to finish this before you post though, because this is going to take me a while to finish.

American:

Caravel (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=76573)
Warrior (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64763)
Spearman(Maya, Inca, Aztec) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64823)
Medieval Infantry(Maya, Inca, Aztec) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69379)
Rifleman(Maya, Inca, Aztec) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96308)
Curragh (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=91312)
Pikeman(Inca, Maya, Aztec) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2001563&postcount=3)
Musketman(Inca, Maya) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2001563&postcount=3)
Swordsman(Inca, Maya, Aztec) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112514)
Rifleman (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2157211#post2157211)
Guerilla(Maya, Aztec, Inca) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=813916&postcount=604)

Ares de Borg
Aug 10, 2005, 08:08 AM
One thing: the singular of velites is "veles". ;-)

Arturus
Aug 10, 2005, 10:45 PM
Here is my list for Arabia:

^ = Unique Unit
* = Flavour Unit
<== = Flavour Unit Request
*** = New Unit for all Civs

If unit has been renamed original folder name appears in brackets

Scout --------------------
Settler ------------------
Worker -------------------
Explorer -----------------

Warrior ------------------
Spearman ----------------- Arabian Spearman*
Archer -------------------
Swordsman ---------------- Arabian Swordsman*
Pikeman ------------------ Arabian Pikeman*
Longbowman --------------- Saracen Archer*
Medieval Infantry -------- Saracen Infantry*
Musketman ----------------
Rifleman -----------------
Infantry -----------------
Guerilla -----------------
Paratrooper --------------
Marine -------------------
Modern Paratrooper -------
TOW Infantry ------------- Machine Gunner (M2 Team)***

Chariot ------------------ Arabian Chariot (Assyrian Chariot)*
Horseman ----------------- Camel Rider*
Knight ------------------- Ansar Warrior^
Cavalry ------------------ Bedouin Raider*
Tank ---------------------
Mechanized Infantry ------
Modern Armour ------------

Catapult -----------------
Trebuchet ----------------
Cannon -------------------
Artillery ----------------
Anti-Aircraft ------------
Mobile SAM ---------------
Radar Artillery ----------

Fighter ------------------
Bomber -------------------
Jet Fighter --------------
Stealth Fighter ----------
Stealth Bomber -----------
Helicoptor ---------------
Cruise Missile -----------
Tactical Missile ---------
ICBM ---------------------

Curragh ------------------
Galley -------------------
Caravel ------------------ Dhow*
Galleon ------------------
Frigate ------------------
Privateer ---------------- Privateer (Pirate Frigate)***
Ironclad -----------------
Destroyer ----------------
Cruiser ------------------
Battleship ---------------
Transport ---------------- Transport (Cargo)***
Submarine ----------------
Aircraft Carrier ---------
Nuclear Submarine --------
AEGIS Cruiser ------------

Here is my list for England:

^ = Unique Unit
* = Flavour Unit
<== = Flavour Unit Request
*** = New Unit for all Civs

If unit has been renamed original folder name appears in brackets

Scout --------------------
Settler ------------------
Worker -------------------
Explorer -----------------

Warrior ------------------
Spearman ----------------- English Spearman (European Spearman)*
Archer ------------------- English Crossbowman (Bowman)*
Swordsman ---------------- English Swordsman (Warder)*
Pikeman ------------------
Longbowman --------------- [Trying to make unique to England]
Medieval Infantry --------
Musketman ---------------- Colonial Guardsman (Foot Guard)*
Rifleman -----------------
Infantry -----------------
Guerilla ----------------- Separatist*
Paratrooper -------------- English Paratrooper (British Paratrooper with Camouflage)*
Marine -------------------
Modern Paratrooper -------

Chariot ------------------
Horseman ----------------- Western European Horseman (Arthurian Knight)*
Knight ------------------- Anglo-Saxon Knight (Late Generic Knight)*
Cavalry ------------------ English Cavalry (British Cavalry)*
Tank ---------------------
Mechanized Infantry ------
Modern Armour ------------ Challenger Tank*

Catapult -----------------
Trebuchet ----------------
Cannon -------------------
Artillery ----------------
Anti-Aircraft ------------
Mobile SAM ---------------
Radar Artillery ----------

Fighter ------------------ Submarine Spitfire*
Bomber ------------------- Halifax Bomber*
Jet Fighter -------------- Harrier*
Stealth Fighter ----------
Stealth Bomber -----------
Helicoptor ---------------
Cruise Missile -----------
Tactical Missile ---------
ICBM ---------------------

Curragh ------------------
Galley -------------------
Caravel ------------------
Galleon ------------------ English War Galleon (Golden Hind English War Galleon)*
Frigate ------------------ Man-O-War^
Privateer ---------------- Privateer (Pirate Frigate)***
Ironclad -----------------
Destroyer ----------------
Cruiser ------------------
Battleship ---------------
Transport ---------------- Transport (Cargo)***
Submarine ----------------
Aircraft Carrier ---------
Nuclear Submarine --------
AEGIS Cruiser ------------

Commodore
Aug 11, 2005, 01:12 PM
Here's a Longbowman that might suit your taste for England: Longbowman (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=114067)

Btw, I have been all over the units forum and pretty much know where most units are, so just ask and I'll dig up a unit for you.

EDIT: Just noticed you didn't have a Carrier for England so here's one for you to consider: Carrier (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29193)

Arturus
Aug 29, 2005, 09:08 AM
Ok I am back and once I transfer my files back over from the cds they are sitting on, I will post the rest of my list. Thank you to all who sent in suggestions and assitance, I have managed to add to my lists which is the object of this thread :D. I will be making a new topic so I can reserve a number of slots at the top to post all of the lists, making it easier to see all of them and not have to search through the pages of the thread. In addition, I am adding a series of bonus units to the list, these units will be used in a mod in which I modified the tech tree to add units. For now though, my goal is to complete the initial one based on the standard rules and tech.