Hello, everyone. I am still working on this thread for now, so everything is still empty, void and without form :D . Come back later when I have something new to report.

Here is a link to the previous term thread:

Term I - City of Olympus (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=125833)

Discussion Threads posted:

Term II - Olympus. What to build? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127872)

MoM in Olympus. Do you want this? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128138)

What if the AI builds the MoM first? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3095990#post3095990)


Governor: Civlord
Lt. Governor: CivGeneral


The Budget Office has been closed due to suspects of corruption. I will have to build my office with my own money. For now, I will have to work like the ancestors: with stones and in open air. I accept any donations. You don't need to specify if it is for the Government of Olympus or for my personal bank account :D . I will take care of that.


Citizen Registry:

Civlord (Me!)
Icmancin

To become a citizen of Olympus, just post it in this forum. We are always accepting new citizens :D.

Reserved for when I need it

I hope you would be considering appointing aspiering governors who lost in this term's election ;).

I hope you would be considering appointing aspiering governors who lost in this term's election ;).

@CivGeneral,

OK, but not from Olympus, of course. I was the only candidate. Or would you like to see something like this:

Governor: Civlord
Deputy Governor: Civlord
Mayor: Civlord

Clearly this is not going to happen :lol: .

@CivGeneral,

OK, but not from Olympus, of course. I was the only candidate. Or would you like to see something like this:

Governor: Civlord
Deputy Governor: Civlord
Mayor: Civlord

Clearly this is not going to happen :lol: .
I thought the Lt. Governor possition would be open.

Drat, I thought the Lt. Governor possition would be open. I guess, I should look elsewhere.

@CivGeneral, I am now accepting applications for Lt. Governor.

@CivGeneral, I am now accepting applications for Lt. Governor.
Would it be alright if I sent the application in advance? Since I do have governor experiance from past demogames and aspire to retire into the governorship.

@CivGeneral, OK. Send me the application via PM.

@CivGeneral, OK. Send me the application via PM.
Done

Dang XCL

I am proud to announce that CivGeneral has been accepted as Lt. Governor of Olympus!

Thanks, CG.

OK Civlord, here's my pitch. ;)

It is without question that Olympus is the most fertile of all of our cities, thanks to the Wine and the Wheat. After we build the final Settler for Priopos, I will need you to consider helping the city of Styx reach a potential where it can become a fertile provider.

Why all of this talk of fertility? Because that is the true road to making all of our cities powerful more quickly. By using Olympian workers to develop and then possibly join less fortunate cities, we will be able to grow more quickly as a nation. And by helping to get Styx on board, you will be able to get back to the task of making Olympus the greatest city in the world!

Truth be told, right now beacuse of happiness Olympus will not be able to grow beyond size 4 anyway. However, we should still be able to toggle a Hoplite in 3 turns followed by a Worker in 2 and still keep your city between Sizes 3 and 4.

Please take some time to think about this. Since I am pressed for time, I may not be describing it properly. However, I truly feel that the great city of Olympus hold the key to all of our future glories. All you have to do is say the word. ;)

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

:eek: DZ! We're agreeing again!

I was just about to post, after the 5th settler, let Olympus become a worker factory! This will greatly increase the size of surrounding cities (providing more shields, and commerce).

Governor Civlord,

Please remember that you will have to post instructions for our upcoming chat (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127620), scheduled for Noon EDT on Saturday. Thanks!

:eek: DZ! We're agreeing again!

I was just about to post, after the 5th settler, let Olympus become a worker factory! This will greatly increase the size of surrounding cities (providing more shields, and commerce).

Yes, we are, CT! ;)

I am still waiting to hear from the good governor of our capital, and hope that he takes our advice.

Governor Civlord, do you think it would be possible to lead this series with a Settler, so that we can settle our fifth and final domestic city? I would appreciate your thoughts on anything I have posted here.

Governor Civlord,

I would encourage you to consider building a temple between the settler for Priapos and our esteemed President's proposed horde of workers. Our citizens would be less likely to be disorderly with such a calming influence, and the cultural benefit of a temple will double sooner the sooner it is built. For that matter, I also suggest a library as soon as we have learned literature, as a means of increasing our scientific research and to further build culture.

Regards,

DaveShack, former governor and founder of Olympus

OOC: In a 5CC and similar variant, we will want to max our population in every city, and build all the cultural buildings. With the land we hold, maxing the population will be pretty straightforward, even without the worker plan.

Hi, sorry for the unexpected one day absence. I am back!

So, Governor of Priapos Provolution had just a great idea. I would like to apply it to Olympus, and with the permission of the Chief Justice and sure that I am not violating any articles of the Constitution or any law, I would like to create a citizen registry for Olympus. The idea is simple: if you reside in the capitol, you can do some specific things you can't do if you don't reside in Olympus. Here it is:



Participate in polls on buildqueues
Participate in poll in city elections
Name units produced in Olympus
Name landmarks in the region of Olympus
Get a home of residence in Olympus
Be invited to the Millenium Party the Golden city, with fish and wine
Represent the city in external negotiations with foreign powers and cities
Develop Olympus specific material - freedom of speech for Olympus internal issues
Take positions within Olympus
Be subject to Olympus Law

I have changed a bit from the original post, but this does not change the essential structure of this proposal. I hope the citizens accept it, and I hope anyone can register to become a resident of Olympus! Our beatiful capitol with wines, fish, palm trees and stuff like that. Thanks

Governor Civlord,

Please remember that you will have to post instructions for our upcoming chat (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127620), scheduled for Noon EDT on Saturday. Thanks!

So, there is plenty of work to do! I will be there, unless the hungry lion of RL demans food.

Citizens of Fanatikos,

Could anyone please post the screenshot of the city screen of Olympus? I must start pondering on what to do, as mr. DaveShack and President Donovan Zoi have already posted some proposals. I would be very glad to anyone who can do that.

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Mr DaveShack and Mr. President Donovan Zoi,

I've read your proposals, and I agree there must be a balance between building culture and workers. Some unhappy and poor faces need attention, but the military police is already doing a great job for now. Olympus will be pumping out workers, and possibly, if former governor DaveShack didn't give that order previously, building a granary to increase growth (If he already built a granary there, then sorry). We must make the slaves (not necessarily "slave" workers) and pioneers of Fanatikos develop the terrain and then settle in the distant areas of our glorious nation. When they complete their job, we will build a temple to content the citizens because they will be adopting sedentary habits and no worker or settler will be built anymore, so population will increase. I will give attention to Science, and if our capitol is chosen to build th GL or any other wonder I will be realocating citizens to work in the rich mines nearby. If not, I will be building libraries and increasing science and commerce to the maximum level. This is going to be my general policy in Term II, and for now we need these people clearing forests and building irrigations. This will be the first step to make Olympus the center of this Fanatik Universe.

Thanks,

Governor Civlord

I need at least 10 characters here, so there are more.

Thanks, TimBentley:D

Citizens of Fanatikos,

According to the screenshot posted in the Information Office, we still don't have Pottery. So, I will consider jumping the granary building stage and start producing workers immediately. The granary can wait.

Civlord

Civlord,

Actually, we need to investigate this situation for a moment. Unfortunately, the Settler build came up a shield short, so as far as I see it, we have two options.

1. Move two laborers to the irrigated tiles and temporarily commission two scientists (they are woth 3 beakers in C3C.

2. Postpone the Settler for a quick Library, then build the Settler.

My only issue is not having our capital at Size 2 for too long, but with Option 1, we shouldn't be. So I would like to see Option 1 out of these two scenarios, so Governor Provolution can start his city.

What do you think?

President DZ,

Actually I would have to investigate Olympus better. I currently cannot install patch 1.22 in my C3C game, so could you please post me a screenshot of the city screen? Thanks :). And I need that someone does it frequently, after every tunchat, so I can have a good knowledge of the city I rule. Again, thanks to any volunteer that can do it for me.

Civlord

I would be glad to assist you, Mr Governor. I tried to attach a picture here already but the forum wouldn't let me attach the same pic twice --- I also have a shot of your city in the turnchat summary.

Hmm... It depends on the priority we have to found Priapos. I strongly endorse Option 2, as a free library would give us much needed science and culture. However, if most of the people, including governor Provolution, consider urgent the need of a settler now, then we will have to choose Option 1. Let me see the constitution:

Polls posted by an elected official on an area they control are considered official and binding unless specifically stated otherwise. Polls posted by citizens, by officials outside their area or by officials in their area explicitly noted as such are considered unofficial, and do not bind officials in any way. Officials should, however, take such polls into account during planning.

The description and initial post for all official polls should be stated in a clear and neutral manner.

The initial post should contain a link to all relevant discussion threads. Each option should be explained if not immediately clear. The time frame for the poll, and how the results will be interpreted should also be in the initial post.

I will be opening a discussion thread, followed by a poll, to decide that. Let the will of majority win!

Citizens of Fanatikos,

After much pondering this question I finally decided that this should not be a public matter. Option 1 of DZ's suggestion will be chosen, as there is really no need in delaying the founding of Priapos now. The common good will triumph, because we certainly need that city working now than a Library in Olympus.

Thanks,

Governor Civlord

A question Mr.Civlord. Would Fanatiks wanting to take a home in your city post their willingness here? That is: Can I become a citizen of Olympus by posting here?

Of course, Ic.

I guess I'll be a citizen then. ;)

City crier:
"Mausollos is dead!

The distinguished citizen Mausollos of Olympus died last night. Citizens are stricken with grief. Voices are heard demanding the construction of a Great Monument here in Olympus. Some people desire a Mausoleum in Mausollos' honor, to cheer them up, and are calling upon the governor to take action.

Mausollos is dead! Spread the news!"

Governor Civlord,

I am a bit concerned by your latest instructions, where you ask for a settler followed by 4 consecutive workers. I haven't done the math, but I cannot help but feel that our capital would be reduced to Size 1 status under that plan, if it could even be carried out at all.

I would rather see the Settler followed by a Library, so that Olympus will have a chance to replenish its production capabilities. Then, workers should be carefully toggled with Hoplites or Warriors to keep your city between Sizes 3 and 4.

Also, please remember to include the city tile instructions for the first turn. We need to set 2 citizens to scientists, leaving the irrigated tiles worked for quick re-growth.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

A good suggestion, indeed. I would like to build a wonder in our beloved capitol. The MoM is a good choice, because it is cheap and gives us lots of happy faces. But this must be within the Fanatikos interests. I will take care of that!

Mr. President,

I was thinking in building a granary, but we don't have pottery. Anyway, I will pump out some workers from there with a small time to let the city grow between the building of each worker. I will give more detailed instructions in the turnchat thread.

Sincerelly,

Governor Civlord

You will have my support in this dark hour! He must be honoured for he was a very significant figure of Fanatik culture.

Citizens of Fanatikos!

I am proud to announce that the MoM will be set as one of our goals for this Term. We need that Wonder in the capitol, as it provides hapiness and some culture. I will be changing my plans so we can afford to build such a wonder. Thank you very much, zyxy, for this suggestion :D!

Governor Civlord

We should consider construct a granary within this city.

We don't have pottery, CG. That's problematic.

The Great Library should fix that.

The Great Library should fix that.
Indead it will :D

Perhaps I will build it, then. Anyway I will have to change the plans for the turnchat, but tomorrow only. Now I am too tired :(.

Governor Civlord,

I noticed that in you latest session instructions, you have queued up the workers before the Library. While I am honored that you would do this to help us reach our national goals, I am not comfortable with the idea of our most powerful city staying at Size 1 for so long.

If you could, please queue up the Library to be next, as this will allow Olympus a chance to grow back to a respectable size.

Also, please remember to direct our DP to draft two scientists on turn 1, while we work the Wheat and Wine tiles only. The scientists will be removed once the Priapos Settler is built.

Thank you for your prompt attention in this matter.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Mr. President,


I would like to say that my instructions are clearly outdated and that I am changing them now according to the MoM Wonder Poll results and my new plans.

Thanks,

Governor Civlord

Here you go, Civlord

I would use the two irrigated tiles for the first turn, with the other two citizens as scientists. After that, I would emphasize growth until your city nears Size 4

Thank you very much, DZ!

And... Could you please post me the city screen after the turnchat?

And... Could you please post me the city screen after the turnchat?

I would be glad to do so, Governor.

Again, thanks :D!

Also, please remember to direct our DP to draft two scientists on turn 1, while we work the Wheat and Wine tiles only. The scientists will be removed once the Priapos Settler is built

Great idea, so why not do it? But I was thinking in drafting two tax collectors, because we will have the GL soon and tech won't be a problem. But the income is quite low, so I am gonna instruct the DP to change the citizens to taxmen, then queue up the two workers followed by the Library and then, ladies and gentlemen, the MoM! I will be following what was chosen by the people in the MoM poll.

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Citizens of Fanatikos,


The Library in Olympus is complete, and now we are going to start pumping out workers from there. The MoM will be built in a few turns, with luck:D!


Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Olympus, 1050 BC

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/DG7_BC1050_Olympus.jpg

thanks, Furiey!

According to the Fanatikos Information Office, Olympus is oficially the greatest and most enlightened city in the world! Thanks! It seems that my administration is making things better :D.

See the Information Office for more (of course) information.

Governor Civlord

Governor Civlord,

Here is a current screenshot of your city:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/DG7_bc1050_olympus_(2).jpg


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Also, when posting your instructions, I would like to see the governors follow a certain format to make things easier on the DP. Can you follow this format?

Your Office Here - 1050 BC

Build queue

Item ---> Item ---> Item ---> Item

Worker Actions

Do this
Then this
Then this

City Tile Micromanagement

On Turn 4, do this
When city grows to Size 4, use this tile

NOTE: For tile micromanagement, I will be glad to offer my services to optimize your cities if you do not have the time or desire to do so. In those cases, just leave the following instruction under th the MM section:

I entrust the President or DP with MM duties to correct unforeseen events that may affect the well-being or productiveness of my city.

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Please let me know what you think of this plan. This will allow you to make as much or as little of your governorship as you have time for.


Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

If I can find Furey's City navigational chart, Ill be gladly to post it to help with possitioning workers :).

Edit: and here it is ;)

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/compass_small.jpg

The Olympus Government thread has been updated to include the links to all discussion threads posted in Term II.

By the looks of things, I guess I am in control of the city for three days since Civlord has gotten a three day vacation.

Here is the screenshot you desire, Civlord.

Thanks, TimBentley. I've got a three days ban and could not post anything since thursday.


Anyway: I'm Back in Business

Governor Civlord

Welcome back, Governor Civlord!

I would like to bring it to your attention that we can save 5 turns on the MoM build by taking laboroers off the Wheat and utting them to work in the forest. We have plenty of food to sustain your city at this time: your Great Wonder needs an increase in production.

I noticed that you left no micromanagement instructions, so hopefully that implies that I can help you in these decisons. It would really help if you could edit your instructions to request that help, however.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Welcome back, Governor Civlord!

I would like to bring it to your attention that we can save 5 turns on the MoM build by taking laboroers off the Wheat and utting them to work in the forest. We have plenty of food to sustain your city at this time: your Great Wonder needs an increase in production.

I noticed that you left no micromanagement instructions, so hopefully that implies that I can help you in these decisons. It would really help if you could edit your instructions to request that help, however.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Mr. President,

RL and my temporary ban have prevented me of posting detailed instructions, but here we have a light:

I can see the save.

After all I had some problems with the patch, but this night I could succesfully install it. And now I have some time to post more detailed instructions. Based on the information I have, Olympus is going to riot in 3 turns if we don't do some MM. So, here is a draft of my official instructions to the DP:


- Relocate the citizens to more shield productive squares until we can avoid growth.
- Continue building the MoM. If MoM is built then stop the turnchat.


Really,there are only few things to do. But I wil add one or more instructions when I see the save again tomorrow. Now it's too late in the night and my eyes are closing :) . I thank you, TimBentley and Furiey for posting screenshots while I had no access to the save, but now I don't need them anymore.

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Citizens of Fanatikos,

According to the last update from the Fanatikos Ephemerida, our city is rioting! We must do something NOW, or else we will lose the MoM. After getting messed up with this whole turnchat thing, now I know that I am too late. I am going to see the save and take all measures to prevent this riot from continuing, for the sake of Fanatikos and the holy RNG!

Governor Civlord

Citizens of Fanatikos,

According to the last update from the Fanatikos Ephemerida, our city is rioting! We must do something NOW, or else we will lose the MoM. After getting messed up with this whole turnchat thing, now I know that I am too late. I am going to see the save and take all measures to prevent this riot from continuing, for the sake of Fanatikos and the holy RNG!

Governor Civlord

sorry if the article scared you, but the situation was taking care of during RegentMan's TC. no need to "fix the mess". :)

sorry if the article scared you, but the situation was taking care of during RegentMan's TC. no need to "fix the mess".

Thanks, greekguy, but I almost panicked with that news :). I am going to post detailed MM instructions now. To the citizens of Fanatikos, sorry, but RL and a temporary ban prevented me from posting MM instructions. I will be working hard to prevent any other riots in the future and to make sure we will get the MoM. This is my main goal for Term II.

Sincerely,

Governor Civlord

Citizens of Fanatikos,

According to the last update from the Fanatikos Ephemerida, our city is rioting! We must do something NOW, or else we will lose the MoM. After getting messed up with this whole turnchat thing, now I know that I am too late. I am going to see the save and take all measures to prevent this riot from continuing, for the sake of Fanatikos and the holy RNG!

Governor Civlord

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/bc610_olympus.jpg

Governor Civlord,

Please relax. Your President took care of this situation long ago by maxing out production in your city, stunting growth in the process. And now it seems that because of the recent war with Persia, the people of Olympus are actually rallying around the cause!

Thee is no need for alarm. The Mausolleum of Mausollos is due in 10 turns.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Mr. President,

Thanks for the MM done and the relocation of citizens. About the future riots, I was loking at an outdated save :(. There will be no riots in the future.

As I expect, we are going to complete the MoM in the next turnchat, so my plan now is to open discussions for the new "post-MoM" phase, until the end of Term II. Perhaps I will run for Term III, I don't know, but the completion of the MoM in the glorious city of Olympus is certainly the best achievement of my Government :goodjob:!

Sincerely,

Governor Civlord

Governor Civlord,

Have you a backup plan in case someone completes the MOM before we do?

Switching to a normal improvement/unit will waste shields, we therefore need to look at other Wonders or changing to a Palace prebuild. Currently available Wonders are Pyramids (32 turns) and the Temple of Artemis (43 turns). If we gain Monarchy off the Great Library the Hanging Gardens would be available, and if we get Fuedalism, Sun Tzu. Obviously other Civs may also beat us to some or all of these Wonders. These Wonders are at the moment many turns away from completion, so another option would be to switch to a Palace prebuild to allow the chat to continue to completion and still give sufficient time to enable the new Wonder to be selected.

I am sure that you are hoping that none of this will be necessary, but better to be safe than sorry and make provision for what happens if we are beaten to it.

Furiey

Furiey,

I hope that the AI does not complete the MoM before we do. We are almost finishing the race for this wonder, but in case the AI builds it fist, then we won't be able to change to palace, because Olympus is the capitol of Fanatikos. We will prebuild another important wonder, then, by switching to other wonders without significant importance. I hope that the AI is not building the MoM, and I hope we will never have to follow different plans because we could not get to the MoM quickly enough.

Sincerely,

Governor Civlord

Governor Civlord,

No offense, but hope and a buck fifty will get you a cheap cup of coffee.

From what I can read, your answer to Furiey's question of "Do you have a backup plan" is a resounding "NO!"

Please reconsider your response, and work to research a plan just in case we don't get the wonder. Are there any other wonders we can switch to? I understand we cannot switch to the Palace, but are there other options? If we can't switch to anything, what should we build?

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire

Mr. Ravensfire,

We must first know the Will of the people, we must first discuss it. I don't have a plan for now, because there are still much discussions to be done and many posts to be read about this. I cannot act by my own will against the Assembly and changing to a different and specific wonder of my choice if the MoM is built by an AI civ. I must hear the voice of the people.

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Doh! Of course we can't switch to the Palace :blush: but perhaps we could switch to one of the other Wonders temporarily so that the chat doesn't have to stop immediately. As long as we then stop the chat in time to change our minds we should then be able to complete the chat and then discuss which Wonder we want.

Doh! Of course we can't switch to the Palace but perhaps we could switch to one of the other Wonders temporarily so that the chat doesn't have to stop immediately. As long as we then stop the chat in time to change our minds we should then be able to complete the chat and then discuss which Wonder we want.


I just hope we don't have to change production to another wonder. But this is a good idea, Furiey.

Rather than having to stop the chat, can we start the discussions ahead of time? You know, such as now. Poor planning results in needless interruptions! We know this is a risk, let's plan for it now!

-- Ravensfire

Rather than having to stop the chat, can we start the discussions ahead of time? You know, such as now. Poor planning results in needless interruptions! We know this is a risk, let's plan for it now!


Yes, but I didn't expect that. Duh! Exactly! A great idea, so, if the AI builds the MoM now, we should have discussed it before. Sorry, this is my first time as Governor. I will be posting a discussion thread.

Sincerely,

Governor Civlord

The Olympus Government thread has been updated to include the new discussion thread about the MoM posted in the Citizens forum.

Eyes closing, signing out :salute:

Governor Civlord

Citizens of Fanatikos!

After a long campaign in name of a decent burial ground for Mr. Mausollos, a great citizen and writer, here is the result of our hard work:

MoM is completed in Olympus!

After all, I would like to thank all citizens that supported this adventure. I have now accomplished my main goal for Term II. Never again will this city riot, as this sacred burial ground will be remembered as a great cultural wonder of the world that will give proud even to the poor and humble citizens of the capitol. Pride of living in this beatiful city, Olympus! And pride of being part of such a glorious empire, the empire of Fanatikos!

Clearly, our hard work will be rewarded. Olympus is now officially the most glorious city in the world, and this Great Wonder is a demonstration of the our huge glory and our rich culture to the barbarians of this world. We are a land of new opportunities, and everyone who writes a good book or gives a good suggestion will be rewarded for his work, as was Mausollos. In this Term II, we were the pioneers that cleared the jungles and marshes of these lands and prepared it for the coming of the glory. As a new age, the Middle Ages, rises upon our lands, the future governors will remember this Term as a much needed preparation for the future of Olympus. When the capitol of the glorious Fanatikos does not riot, or when its Library gives it much needed science and culture, we, those who helped making a great Term II, will be remembered. Olympus is now ready! Ready for the eternal bright of culture, and ready to become the center of the world!

Thank you!

Governor Civlord

To all elected officials:

Due to an eagerness to get a chat during a reasonable time for our overseas players, a severe brain cramp and a possible lack of caffeine, I am resheduling the upcoming game session.

It is now scheduled for Monday, September 26th at 7pm, Central time.

My apologies for any trouble!
-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

Deputy Minister CivGeneral,

As CivLord is no longer a citizen of Fanatikos, and thus cannot be the Governor of Olympus, please post the instructions for the City of Olympus in the current instruction thread.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, your upcoming DP

People of Fanatikos,

This post is to announce that former Lt Governor CivGeneral has been offered, and has accepted, the appointment for Governor of Olympus. Since there are only four days left in the term, CivGeneral may use this thread for the remainder of the term if he so chooses.

Please visit the Appointment Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=129820) in the Citizens Forum to congratulate Governor CivGeneral!

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

CG,

You have 4 happy citizens now, CG. Not 2. I am sending 4 workers to join your city.

You need to change production from a Temple to a Marketplace. The Mausolleum can get us up to Size 8 with no problem, so the Temple should wait.

Emphasize production over gold to get the Market faster. You don't want to grow too quickly right now.