well we were never really ever out of bussiness, but we had a brief amount of days in which we might have been. also, a new term means a new HQ. We are now based in the Augean Stables, because they are the frontrunner for the Fanatikos defense and closest to the front lines. So lets get started! :D

Minister of Defense: vikingruler
Deputy: Ranger99

Current Operations:
1. Operation One: The Barbarian Threat: Lightning Strikes Twice (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127624)
2. Operation Two: The Mighty Sword Cometh (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128486)
3. Operation Three: The Greek War Machine is let loose (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3074561#post3074561)
4. Operation Four: The army of Greece, the defense of Fanatikos (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128894)

Past Operations:

Link to Term 1 HQ (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=125736)

Reserved For Information And Updates

Good work, vikingruler. We need a strong defense with a brave commander in the front.

vikingruler,

Please do me a favor and post a thread about how we plan to deal with the constant barbarian threats coming from the southeast. I would like to see us gain enough strength in that region to have a proactive barb-hunt patrol on alert, It could add a decent amount to our bottom line, not to mention protect Civantonia from future attacks.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Deputy Governor of Civatonia writes: I suggested to CT in the build queue an additional hoplite to defend our roads from pillaging and city from population loss, and then a chariot/horsemen (once we get Horseback Riding, which will probably be soon) to go on the offensive.

my response the the letter written by the deputy of civatonia. a hoplite makes sense to me and is no problem. my problem is that HBR is a way off and an archer is just as good. we are currently researching philo unless we begin researching HBR i will continue to complain about no archers built. therefore i suggest the deputy of civatonia as well as the governor to build a hoplite and then an archer.

Minister, I humbly offer some movement suggestions that would really aid the Expatriate Governor.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Explore_1.JPG

The blue squares are what information we'd discover, while the red dot is Rome.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Explore_2.JPG

The blue squares and the yellow square are what information we'd discover, while the Persian-colored dot is Arbela. Yes, we're violating Persian territory, but they're so far north and it's for only one turn that it doesn't matter. The information we'd receive is far more valuable.

I would like to offically announce the appointment of Ranger99 as the Minister of Defense deputy.

Do we have any resolution on the violation of Persian territory? I did a warrior dance around 1 city border last session because I didn't have specific orders.

RegentMan, this question may be best if asked of the FA.

Has no one looked at the name of that warrior yet?
I threw that cookie in there when I was DPing and no one seems to have picked up it yet... (either that or no ones told me that they have)

Minister,
An interesting thread has opened that looks worth checking out, as the first part of it directly relates to our military force and it's size, as well as a Defense Startegy for our Nation, I hihgly suggest that you take a look at it.

In it I proposed a Reactionary Force Defense, that In my opinion is tailored specifically for our own needs and wants as a Military, the entire write-up is in the Thread which is located here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128148&page=1&pp=20)

It would be best for Fanatikos if we further discuss this defense plan and it's posatives and negatives to our nation.

I look forward to your commentary and advice.

P.S. The whole write-up and discussion is actually found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128301)

-Ranger-

Mr. Minister of Defense,


Perhaps we should start discussing our defense plan more carefully, as the latest turncht reports say a swordsman and a warrior from France are approaching the Augean Stables. I know nobody would attack a foreign civ with such a force, but this is the AI. I think we should prepare our defense for a war against the French.

Respectfully,

Civlord

Civlord, in fact i have started thinking about our defense for fanatikos. in fact i put up a poll/discussion on Ranger99's brilliant plan for a RDF. the poll is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128422)

All of us, let's pray for the RNG in name of a better security :worship: !

Ministers vikingruler and Ranger99,

Please join the following discussion, which will guide the direction of our diplomacy for years to come:

FA Discussion: Shall We Join Alliances Against Germany? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128434)

Honorable Ministers,

Depending on how our FA discussion pans out, we may need to shift gears on our military expenditures. This means we will need to start discussions on:

Connecting the Iron in Civantonia

Building some Warriors that can be upgraded to Swordsmen, or just build Swordsmen

EDIT: Warriors, not Workers....

DZ, you mean warriors right, not workers?

DZ, you mean warriors right, not workers?

No, lets trade the ploughshares for swords and see what really happens. :lol:

Post edited. Thanks.

I revised my links so all operations are included, i hope this will prompt more citizens to particiapate in my discussions. :)

General, i think you should plan for war against France as well as Germany. Because Germany is currently surrounded by enemys and has never been agressive towards us. While france has swordsmen on our borders.

I believe that the Swordsman are merley there to get to the German Front in the quickest way possible, which happens to be through our territory.

I have quite a few resons to believe this, during the Siege of Leipzig the French only had a Single Warrior Division participate in the attack, (And he was lsaughtered the very first wave) So that's one reson that we can conclude that they have either very few troops at the German front right now, or Leipzig was the far right Flank of their main assault.

If we choose to believe that they have almost no troops in the Theatre, than the Swordsman are only Reinforcemtns to the front.

If we choose to believe that Leipzig was the far right flank of their assault, then these Swordsman are going through our territory to attack Heidleburg in a nseak manuever or prepare a joint Assault on Berlin from tow sides.

-Ranger99-

fortify apollo on his current position for spying on enemy and ally troop movement. have all future warriors upgraded to swordsmen and sent to berlin. have any horsemen built follow my instructions outlined on my war plan map. send first one north of berlin for spying on rome, if rome has less troops then germany has spears or garrisoned troops, let rome attack first then take the city. commence attack with min. of 3 swords if 2 die cease fire until 4th one comes. if warriors are built that don't get upgraded like i said in my plan, after 6 swords are built however, send them to spots indicated on map. as Minister of Defense i overide Provolutions request for Frank'n'Furter to garrison priapos. have him go to augean stables, request upgrade to swordman. another request, connect to iron as soon as 3 more warriors are built. after they are upgraded, disconnect iron build 2 more warriors, connect, upgrade leave connected so governors can build more swords if they wish. also, request to DZ, please send two or three workers to be on standby at iron connection site. lastly, after berlin battle at DP's discretion and after defenses are made in berlin, send remaning swords to attack hiedelburg if it still stands.
NOTE- all requests made are for the guranteed success of my battle plan and the battle for berlin.

vikingruler,

Thanks for posting your instructions on time. However, can you do me a favor and separate things out a bit, then edit your post? Something like:

Apollo: fortify his current position for spying on enemy and ally troop movement.....etc

Also, keep in mind that the FA proposal for war against Germany may not pass, so your instructions to head to Berlin may be premature. Be ready to re-evaluate your instructions if it doesn't pass.

Sorry to be a nuisance, but I want to make thing as easy on the DP as possible.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Minister, you have posted instructions asking for an attack on Berlin. However, neither the Senate nor the Assembly have given their approval for a declaration of war. As such, I ask you to post alternate instructions (in a [spoiler] if you'd like) for a peaceful chat until war is either declared or denied.

Minister, there is a chance that we won't be declaring war on germany, this means there is also a chance we will be at war with France, I urge you to plan for this and post it here, a link in the instructions tread saying incase of war would work well. also i think that you should even plan for a defensive war on two fronts. The road ahead is a wobbly one sir.

Any battle's happen at all, any against the enemy, or agaisnt us?

Thanks, if you can remember any at all...
(4/4) German archer attacks stack of two Roman archers on a hill north of Berlin. German archer wins, losing one hit point and promotes (4/5).

(3/3) German archer attacks lone spear on grassland SE of the hill. German archer wins, (2/3), if I recall.

A Roman archer killed the second German archer mentioned.

Other than that... nothing. I think that that was all of the visible battles.

Minister vikingruler,

There have been several plans and theories proposed for both defense and offense. Most of these have been vague, without concrete numbers and placement.

I would like to challenge you, and the Governors of our 5 cities, to create a concrete, definite plan to determine an adequate level of military staffing, and the plan to train our citizens to achieve that level of staffing. This is a daunting task, one that will require help from many leaders and citizens, but can serve as a lasting mark of your term in office.

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire

i accept your challenge ravensfire. i intend to work with the FA as well as all governors. President DZ will also play a big role in this. my intial plan is that i hope to create an RDF, an RDF will allow us to have good amounts of attack, scout and defense troops who can react quickly to any national threat. as a first statement pretaining to our army, i intend to place them on weak points. for instance, the Franco border near the Augean Stables is a location where i hope to place a high amount of our troops. also, of course the border of civatonia is quite vunerable and needs extra protection. my hopeful number of horsemen is 3-5 depending on unit support cost. they will be spread out throughout the no-man's land in between France and Fanatikos and Germany and Fanatikos. i will assign sectors for each one to patrol and our main troop body of swordsmen and possibly a few extra hoplites just in case our RDF is attacked head-on, they would respond accordingly. i will create a thread with a detailed map of my plan and later on an approval poll.
-Minister of Defense vikingruler

I'm glad to hear that!

Please though - one of the first objectives must be to get concrete numbers - not ranges. Numbers that will be effective in use, reasonable in number and attainable.

-- Ravensfire

I got this idea, you could make a plan for fighting a war for each nation, and name them different colours. Like war plan red might be for germany. War Plan yellow for france, war plan Blue for rome war plan Green for persia and war plan silver for a enemy beyond the sea.

Ahh you
re thinking like SYOP right?

yes that would be a good thing to have just in case something unexpected comes up, I like that thinking.

-Ranger99-

I dont know what you mean, but america use to do it one colour (orange i think) was to invade canada, one was japan, one was mexico, one was carabian, one was war in europe.

Minister vikingruler.

I notice that you have asked for Warriors to be upgraded to Swords. As our President has to balance our budget, you will need to clear the use of gold to do this through that office. I would hate to see essential upgrades not take place because no budget had been allocated.

SYOP is the hidden plan for every worst case scenario to ever occur, from a Mexican Invasion to compltete alliance against America all over Europe. SYOP status is the highest alert status and units in SYOP awareness have very strict orders and are ready at all times to execute when the order comes through.

Color codeing for National Emergencies and War Plans is a good idea, I strongly suggest we begin to do that very quickly.

-Ranger99-

Ranger99, being that you cleary have a lot of enthusiasm towards color coding national emergency plans, i suggest you spearhead this operation. Just make sure you stay within the boundaries of our likely amount of military personnel.
-Minister of Defense, vikingruler

I'll gladly do this for the Ministery of Defense, The only thing that i'll need is a World Map, (the ones in the Screenshot thread are old...)

After I've drawn up the original plans I'll PM them to you and have you ratify them.

-Ranger99-

my war plan has a nice amount of the world, so feel free to use that as a guideline to take screenshots of. you could easily do it yourself though. go into the save, move the mouse until you encompass all the land you want a screenshot of, then press PrintScreen, it is in the F keys row. then go to your graphics programs, for instance my computer has Paint, then just use the keys on the left hand side of the screen to make the map. as for uploading the map itself, that is a snap but it does involve a number of steps and i would prefer not typing all of it up now. but if you don't know how to upload a screenshot, just ask me or practically anyone, i'm pretty sure most people know.

I would like to help out with this if possiable.

Thanks Minister, I'll get to work on that right away,

Nobody, I'll be happy to have another head in on this project welcome, aboard! We'll probably communicate through PM if that's okay with you.

-Ranger99-

Due to the fact that no one posted in my newest thread on the RDF, i have no choice but to approve all ideas stated in that thread to as official instructions. no one disagreed with me and that thread was to help me make instructions. now, if Frank'n'Furter is a sword move him onto one of my blue dot locations and fortify. move apollo to civatonia, Governor Chieftess please upgrade him, if he gets upgraded move him to a blue dot location near civatonia and fortify. has all future swords move to different blue dot locations until all dots have at least one on them. then start doubling up, then so on and so forth. as for the horsemen, have them go to my black dot spots, the airbrush dot, SW of foreset horse is void, forget it. then have them conduct their rounds as outlined in the lines jutting from each dot. the DP has discrection on how to follow those lines. if a threat is found, make sure all swords are mobilized and ready to met the threat, if war is declared and the TC doesn't stop, have a sqardron of swords say 4 move out and met the threat, then fall back. most likely the chat will end but if it continues after the threat is destroyed, fall back and re-fortify the RDF, have the horsemen fall back to avoid attack.

Minister vikingruler,

This is my second request for you to provide more coherent instructions for the Designated Player. I gave a few examples of how this should be handled above.

Please break your ideas into smaller paragraphs at the very least. You can do that before today's session in minimal time, and I guarantee that DP CivGeneral will appreciate it.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

I concur, also for future referances for other DPs, Please post up a link to a map so that they would know what you are talking about.

Regards,
CivGeneral.

Mr. Minister of Defense,


I have noticed the presence of barbarian horsemen inside the borders of Fanatikos. What is your plan to fight them?

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

Mr. Minister of Defense,

Again, another post, but Persia has declared war on us. What is your plan for the military defense of Fanatikos?

Respectfully,

Governor Civlord

@Civlord-

1) It does not seem that there are any barbarians inside the borders of Fanatikos, was this incursion destroyed turning the turnchat perhaps?

2) My plan for war is simply to survive this war, wait Persia out until peace is signed and try to salvage whatever we have left of our relationship with the Persians. I see no strategic value in taking any Persian city as it would be a corrupt hell-hole, and destroying all their cities would only give more lands for our rivals to settle. My plan is to continue with my defesne plan and prevent any Persian threat from reaching our borders. When our horsemen get to their round locations, symbolized by a black dot on my map. They will conduct rounds and if a threat by the Persians is detected, they will pull back and we will eliminate that threat.

2) My plan for war is simply to survive this war, wait Persia out until peace is signed and try to salvage whatever we have left of our relationship with the Persians. I see no strategic value in taking any Persian city as it would be a corrupt hell-hole, and destroying all their cities would only give more lands for our rivals to settle. My plan is to continue with my defesne plan and prevent any Persian threat from reaching our borders. When our horsemen get to their round locations, symbolized by a black dot on my map. They will conduct rounds and if a threat by the Persians is detected, they will pull back and we will eliminate that threat.


I applaud your efforts to try to end this war peacefully, Minister Vikingruler. However, I wish to ask a question. Persia, while considered "foreign" and relativly weak should pose no threat for us. However, they do threaten what some people would believe to be a pre-mature "Golden Age" for our Civilization, what our scientists predict might be period of extreme wealth and civic satisfaction. This "Golden Age" would be extremely good for our economy and national well-being as a whole, but most likely short-lived, and scientists agree tough to come by again. Through propoganda and taxes, we have alleviated the bringing this "Golden Age" to our nation in order to hold it off until we can reap it's benefits in great ways. The entire balance we've created, however, could be thrown off by the news of a military victory exciting the people too early, ruining years of careful planning!

What restraints might you show to ensure that our plan for an effective "Golden Age" goes smoothly and as planned? Specifically, where do you draw the line between, A.) an attack is imminent anyway, and so the Golden Age plot must be risked for the well-being of the Nation, and B.) Retreating in the hopes of reaching a peace-treaty or getting close enough to consider the losses of an archaic or Despotic "Golden Age" minimal.

Gerikes,

This is really interesting. We should keep a warrior, archer or horseman line in the borders of Fanatikos so they don't attack the cities garrisoned by hoplites first. I am sure that a good force of the Fanatikos militia (just call them "brutes") can have a victory without exciting too much the Fanatik people, as they are only an untrained and dirty bunch but yet an useful militia of farmers. Not the Regular army... (Did you get the ticket?).

Sincerely,

Civlord

Just a friendly reminder, we have a turnchat tonight and no military instructions have been posted.

Also, as several past military advisors have found to their chagrin, excessively detailed instructions can bind the DP to following bad tactical moves. I recommend leaving a bit of wiggle room, possibly a general statement that the DP is authorized to alter details as necessary to accomodate the tactical situation. :)

i will post my instructions now.
as for avoiding a pre-mature GA, i wish to put this forth. first of all, a large section of land separates persia from us, so hopefully peace will be signed before an attack on one our cities occurs. also, we could pull our hoplites from the Augean Stables or Civatonia to prevent a hoplite being attacked. we replace the garrision with any other units. btw, while i can order an action like emptying a cities garrsion, i think so anyway, i would never do something that can possibly risk on of our cities life.

To all elected officials:

Due to an eagerness to get a chat during a reasonable time for our overseas players, a severe brain cramp and a possible lack of caffeine, I am resheduling the upcoming game session.

It is now scheduled for Monday, September 26th at 7pm, Central time.

My apologies for any trouble!
-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

Minister vikingruler,

You have not posted instructions for the upcoming game session. Please post them as soon as possible so your fellow citizens may review them.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, your upcoming DP