The Minister of Foreign Affairs is responsible for all matters involving treaties with foreign nations and all espionage activities. This includes Trade Embargoes, Military Alliances and the use of Spies to acquire technologies.

Please submit nominations for the Minister of Foreign Affairs in this thread and Accept or Decline any nominations you may receive. Self nominations are allowed. Citizens may only run for one elected position.

Nominations will close and elections open 00:00 GMT on the 27 September (that’s 8pm EDT 26 September).

Please Note: I shall start closing the nomination threads and posting the polls approx 1½ hours early at 22:30 GMT (6:30 PM EDT), 26 September.

I self-nominate and accept for Foreign Affairs Minister. I also nominate Nobody.

I self nominate and accept. Vote for Me!

Here we have a great problem: we have an undesirable war happening, and we must stop that before the persians can trigger a despotic golden ge. I will propose peace with the persian as soon as they want to talk, but peace with honor. If they demand any techs or too much gold, war will continue.

I will make a strong connexion withe Defense Department so we can have a powerful army under the service of Fanatikos and the Foreign Affairs Office. We will cooperate more in our offices and coordinate our plans better than in other administrations. This way we can have a safe Fanatikos and peace, but we shall keep our honor. The AI will make demands, but we will be firm. We will give in until we can have the opportunity for an advantageous war with a weak AI (possibly Persia) so we can send a hoplite to persian lands and trigger a Republic Golden Age. Also, we will wait for Persia to demand tribute, so if they declare war we can have war happiness. I plan to do this after we get Republic, and with strict cooperation with the Defense Department. I will be very active in the Foreign Affairs department and give my instructions clearly to avoid confusion. However, if Persia does not declare war, then we will make them furious with demands until they decide to invade our lands. But there will never be an invasion, because they are weak and too far away. I, on the contrary, plan to send a hoplite (with the approval of other departments) to persian lands and trigger the golden age. We are supposed to change to Republic this Term. My major plan is to get a Golden Age with diplomacy. However, Persia can turn into a strong nation in the future. This strategy not only applies to Persiabut it applies to all weak nations that we may find in the future.

So, here are the fundamental points of my plan:

- Make strong connections with the Defense Department and other Departments, increasing cooperation.
- Have a favorable war in Republic so we can have war happiness and trigger a golden age with distant and weak nations. They will have to declare war on us first.
- Protect Fanatikos. Give in to demands from powerful foreign civs, but this time making a better diplomacy and trying to strenghten our connections with powerful civs.
- Peace with honor. When we end the war with Persia, we must not give them too much gold or techs. This applies to other powers, too. Except if we are loosing against a foreign civ and we desperately need peace.
- Strategic discussions about the role of Fanatikos in the future. This means that every citizen will be invited to discuss in a thread posted by me about the Fanatikos Foreign Affairs. I will be accepting any comments and suggestions.
- I am very active, and I will participate actively from my Office.

Vote for Me!

Civlord

I accept your nomination, more to come soon. Civlord i wondered why you kept asking me.

Civlord i wondered why you kept asking me.
I think he was genuinely curious if you were running for Term III.

I second Civlord. I may try for another office at a later term if I keep the Axis powers under control. :shakehead

I think he was genuinely curious if you were running for Term III.

so do i, i wasnt being smart or angry or anything, maybe a small bit hurmous. Well its late now, and so i will beging campaigning tomorrow.

Vote for Me!

Hello citizens of Fanatikos! I am running for Foreign Affairs Minister and want your vote. I will protect the sovereignty of Fanatikos and help enrich the lives of all Fanatiks. I will also make sure we reign supreme among other nations, in terms of power and diplomacy standings. Here is my platform:

-I will advocate declaring war numerous times throughout the term. In my opinion, we must destroy Germany, Rome, and France for Fanatikos to remain safe. I don't consider Persia a threat and I believe they will be more useful having their cities alive, rather than in ruins.
- I will aim to create Millitary Alliances with several nations in order to "dogpile" a potential enemy. This can be used to bring an enemy to the table or to bring about a rival's destruction.
- I will try to coordinate efforts with the Defense Department with exploration matters. I find it imperative that we discover the other continent and create a monopoly on communications with all nations we find.
- I believe Rights of Passages should be used when needed. If an enemy declares war on us, responding with a ROP with another rival civ will help prevent a "dogpile" against us.
- When the War of the Books is over, I will request money from the budget be spent to build an embassy with the Persians. This will help increase diplomatic relations with their country and hopefully lead to better relations in the future.

Thank You Fanatikos. I will now take questions now.

Vote greekguy

-I will advocate declaring war numerous times throughout the term. In my opinion, we must destroy Germany, Rome, and France for Fanatikos to remain safe. I don't consider Persia a threat and I believe they will be more useful having their cities alive, rather than in ruins.

Shoul we consider that? This is 5BCC, so if we destroy Rome, Germany and France then Persia will settle in their old territory thus becoming a REAL threat. We need many divided enemies, not a strong enemy alone.


- I believe Rights of Passages should be used when needed. If an enemy declares war on us, responding with a ROP with another rival civ will help prevent a "dogpile" against us.


My policy is to approach ROP with caution. The AI will certainly ROP-rape us in the future, especially the aggressive civilizations. We must avoid that.

Vote Civlord. We need a strong FA Office!

Shoul we consider that? This is 5BCC, so if we destroy Rome, Germany and France then Persia will settle in their old territory thus becoming a REAL threat. We need many divided enemies, not a strong enemy alone.

If we end up having the power to take out these 3 coutries, I think we will be able to deal with Persia. Also remember, I advocate war with those 3 nations. War is something directly controlled by the people, guided by the FA Minister.



My policy is to approach ROP with caution. The AI will certainly ROP-rape us in the future, especially the aggressive civilizations. We must avoid that.


Rights of Passages will be used to help prevent dogpiling, not just for the hell of it. Also ROP's increase a rival civ's attitude, thus increasing the chance of contiuned peaceful relations.

Question for the Candidates:

As our cities grow larger, the need to keep the people under control will grow with it. Cathedrals and other city improvements are expensive, and might take long to build. Precious resources will be lost by city-sponsored playwrites, clowns and actors to continue keeping the people happy. Luxuries are a way of giving back to the people without losing these human resources. Currently, Rome seems to be poised to be in control of three seperate resources in the near future which we could use, while also having Iron and Horses near them. What must we do in order to ensure the Fanatikos has reasonable access to these luxury resources from Rome? How do these resources affect your plans in terms of our treatment of Rome?

If we end up having the power to take out these 3 coutries, I think we will be able to deal with Persia. Also remember, I advocate war with those 3 nations. War is something directly controlled by the people, guided by the FA Minister.

But in that case we would delay the change to Republic or have war weariness. And to fight Rome, Germany and France we will need many units that will destroy our income. We cannot pay these soldiers.

Rights of Passages will be used to help prevent dogpiling, not just for the hell of it. Also ROP's increase a rival civ's attitude, thus increasing the chance of contiuned peaceful relations.

But there is also the possibility of a ROP-rape. ROP deals should be approached with caution. And the AI does not care about reputation anyway, so they would declare war on us easily in alliance with other AI, even if we have ROP.

Vote Civlord! We need a Strong Foreign Affairs Office!

As our cities grow larger, the need to keep the people under control will grow with it. Cathedrals and other city improvements are expensive, and might take long to build. Precious resources will be lost by city-sponsored playwrites, clowns and actors to continue keeping the people happy. Luxuries are a way of giving back to the people without losing these human resources. Currently, Rome seems to be poised to be in control of three seperate resources in the near future which we could use, while also having Iron and Horses near them. What must we do in order to ensure the Fanatikos has reasonable access to these luxury resources from Rome? How do these resources affect your plans in terms of our treatment of Rome?


This is an interesting point. We need these luxuries, so here is my proposal:

- If the people demans that, then we will have war. My plan is to make Rome furious so they declare war on us thus giving us war happiness. And we will have stronger relations with other powerful civs, bringing them to war. Truly, my intention is to make the AI fight for us, so if Rome declares war on us and we get an alliance with France, we will wait until Rome is severely destroyed by the war until we can advance over their territories. This way we will face less roman troops and have better chances of victory. Also, we won't need a huge army that will drain our resources. We must have a good strategy according to our future government: The Republic.

Then, if everything goes right, we can take those resources and make our citizens happy. Of course, I will be building stronger ties with the Office of President and the Minister of Defense so we can have a well-coordinated plan.

Note on last post: While I can use the "AI vs. AI" strategy I proposed, it may not be necessarily with France, but with other civs too. France is only an example.

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Question to the Candidates:

With the threat of war looming over our heads, what will you do to aid the effort? I mean you will have to work with the Minister of Defense and Governors, so what do you intend to do to make a difference?

With the threat of war looming over our heads, what will you do to aid the effort? I mean you will have to work with the Minister of Defense and Governors, so what do you intend to do to make a difference?

That's one of my main goals. I will be having more communications with the Defense Department and others and coordinating plans according to the law of Fanatikos. However, we are elected to serve the people, and so if the people does not agree with a war then we will have to go with a different foreign policy.

Vote Civlord

Question for the Candidates:

As our cities grow larger, the need to keep the people under control will grow with it. Cathedrals and other city improvements are expensive, and might take long to build. Precious resources will be lost by city-sponsored playwrites, clowns and actors to continue keeping the people happy. Luxuries are a way of giving back to the people without losing these human resources. Currently, Rome seems to be poised to be in control of three seperate resources in the near future which we could use, while also having Iron and Horses near them. What must we do in order to ensure the Fanatikos has reasonable access to these luxury resources from Rome? How do these resources affect your plans in terms of our treatment of Rome?

Well, if it was up to me, I would destroy the Roman civilization and then build colonies on their former territories near these important luxuries. I would then reinforce these areas with forts filled with hoplites and horsemen. However, I running for neither Minister of Defense or President. I really do not control getting access to resources. That would be the Trade & Tech Minister's job. However, plans to treat Rome have nothing to do with luxuries. I consider them a threat and think we should raze their empire (save the one city we keep) and destroy their civilization.

Question to the Candidates:

With the threat of war looming over our heads, what will you do to aid the effort? I mean you will have to work with the Minister of Defense and Governors, so what do you intend to do to make a difference?

I will of course coordinate the efforts between the various departments, but I view war as something that can be taken care of easily as long as the Foreign Department performs the proper diplomacy and the Defense Department draws up the perfect attack plans. Coordination will of be at the forefront of my department, but my coordination efforts will focus on intercontinental exploration.

Greetings Citizens,

I am once again running for the position of Foreign affairs advisor. We are playing a five city challenge game; this means that we have limited amounts of cities to produce shields, gold, beakers and territory. This means we can not build giant army’s, tax huge amounts of money, research everything we want or have large territory containing natural resources. This means in the Five City challenge game foreign affairs is even more important than before. We must trade with our neighbours to gain gold, technology and resources. This also means that we need good relations so we can trade profitably. Also good relations will decrease the chance of war.
To build friendly relationships with our neighbours I will use embassies, trade, gifts, and treaty’s to increase their relationship to polite. I will honour all agreements because a black mark against our record will make relations impossible. To the nation up to date I will post in my government thread information about all our neighbours.
Many of my competitors have been calling for war against our neighbours. Now I am not totally against military action. But I will not wage wars simply to destroy our neighbours or to gain our one city per civ. This is a boring way to play the game. I can play like that one player. I will declare war for real reasons. As far as fighting the war goes that’s up the Military I won’t get involved in that. But if elected I will appoint a person (possible deputy) to be the FA/MA lassoing* officer so we can make sure the military and foreign affairs can work together to deal to threats.
Also if elected I will put forward my much anticipated Ambassador position. Every nation we have a embassy with will need an ambassador. After every turn chat the Ambassador will look at the save and briefly comment in the FA thread about our relations with that civilization. This is so we can have people specialising in each nation. Ambassadorships will be first given to people who don’t have current jobs and old veterans. This is to help pull people back into the game who have moved away and because in real life Ambassadorships are given to state servants at the end of their career. Also Ambassadorships have great role-playing possibility and I hope a Ambassador could keep their title longer than one term. Maybe the senate could confirm them, it would be fun. I will start a discussion thread once elected to work out the kinks.
I will also concern myself with Democracy and Honour. I will make fair and clear polls and discussions on all issues of foreign affairs keeping to a minimum standard above the legal requirement. And by appointing more people to foreign office I will involve more people in the decision making process. As far as honour goes this will be our counter balance to the AIs randomness. Nations like Persia who wage war against us now will get theirs latter one way or another. This could be as much as burning down their capital or as little as not signing an alliance.
I promise to keep the government thread in order and keep it updated unlike this term. I will bring stability and honesty to the Foreign Affairs office, and keep you the citizenry up to date. Now you’re going to see a lot of big signatures and catch phrases but not from me, look beyond the flurry, vote reasonably and on the issues. Vote Reasonably Vote Nobody. You know i represent a strong Foreign Affairs department, and proserity will come from trade which will be favor a Nobdaziny admistration. As far as experince i have been the Foreign Affairs Advisor for two successfull terms and deputy many times.

vote reasonably vote nobody
Thank you for your time.


*If you know the word I mean or the spelling please inform me, a 300 dollar reward is offered.

But if elected I will appoint a person (possible deputy) to be the FA/MA lassoing* officer so we can make sure the military and foreign affairs can work together to deal to threats.

*If you know the word I mean or the spelling please inform me, a 300 dollar reward is offered.

I believe the word you are looking for is liaison. I can really use the 300 gold for my campaign, but you may keep it.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Liaison, yes that's the word, but I'm never going to be able to use it again without thinking of a cowboy going after those cows! :lol:

Liaison, yes that's the word, but I'm never going to be able to use it again without thinking of a cowboy going after those cows! :lol:

Ah, but Furiey....in order to be a successful liaison, mustn't all great diplomats be skilled in the art of lassoing? :D

Vote Civlord. We need Honour and Competent Diplomats

Vote Civlord

As far as I am concerned, my main goal is to benefit from AI vs. AI fights and only declare war if we have conditions to win. I will make military alliances, if possible, and adopt a strict cooperation with the Office of President and the Minister of Defense. My plan is to give Fanatikos a Golden Age with a distant weak civilization, and to make sure that, if we have war, then we will have a favourable war according to our new government. Vote Civlord, vote for a Strong Government!

About Wars

My plan is to keep peace, but to have short and favourable wars tht can give us advantages in the future. Now we need a GA, and this is the best time and government to have it. here are my plans:

- Make a weak and distant civ declare war on us, and thus hoping we can send a hoplite there to have a Golden Age.
- Put the AI civs against each other. This slows AI culture and science and makes sure we are going to be the leaders in the tech race.
- Favor military alliances to achieve our main objectives. My major plan is to have a phony war with Rome and only think about an attack after twenty turns or more. How? We can make military alliances with France and Germany, thus making them fight for us. When it becomes clear that Rome is loosing, then I will ask the President and the Minister of Defense, with the approval of the citizens, to send a sizeable force to take a city and possibly luxuries and immediately sue for peace, but also considering our alliances with other nations. I will keep Fanatikos reputation clean: we are not going to break any treaties unless we REALLY need to do it.
- We will avoid making too many wars. My plan is only to have a few favorable wars that will grant us rewards. If an AI civ offer us military alliances and wars that really cannot give us a good reward for our fight and go against the interests of Fanatikos, I will be refusing them.
- Strenghten the relations of Fanatikos with our powerful neighbors (France, and perhaps Germany).
- Approach ROP deals with caution. We must remember that the AI does not care too much about reputation. I am affraid that signing ROP's with many AI civs can only lead to a ROP-rape instead of a better peace.

It's hard to believe that this position is so coveted that we are losing two potential governors for it. ;)

Now, for my questions. As potential President for Term 3, one of my goals is to help create some work for the Exptriate Governor. Please answer the following.

Do agree with the taking of foreign cities in Term 3?

How soon before we can even consider such a mission?

What are your plans for war against a nation once we have taken our one pretermined city?

Do we implement a scorched earth policy on their remaining cities?

Do we make peace once the objective city is ours?


Thank you for your time, gentlemen.


Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Ah, but Furiey....in order to be a successful liaison, mustn't all great diplomats be skilled in the art of lassoing? :DPerhaps we have discovered the true origins of the word :mischief:

Do agree with the taking of foreign cities in Term 3?

I will favor taking cities from any AI civ. IF they grant us luxuries and strategic resources AND/OR are well placed and not too far way from our capitol.

How soon before we can even consider such a mission?

I will declare war according to the interests of Fanatikos. But as soon as we can build a sizeable force we will have war. My strategy is to have allies fighting for us until our enemy is weaken, unless their demands are too expensive.

What are your plans for war against a nation once we have taken our one pretermined city?

If we take a well-placed and rich city, my plan is to sue for peace as soon as we can. We must have favorable and SHORT wars. But we may also benefit from the war happiness bonus by making the AI civs to declare war on Fanatikos instead of we giving the first step.

Do we implement a scorched earth policy on their remaining cities?

If we take a good city, we will raze the others if necessary. My plan is to weaken the army of rival civs with alliances and other stuff. But I will avoid destroying too many of their cities. We need a divided AI. If we are going to raze all the cities we can't keep, then some other civ will settle there and increase their territory and power. We need many divided enemies, not a single powerful civ. Or else we would be in danger.
In trade, this also applies. Many neighbors with whom we can negotiate are better than a single neighbor.


Do we make peace once the objective city is ours?


Possibly. We must have a clean reputation, so if we are fighting a civ in alliance with other we will first wait until the alliance treaty expires to sign peace. But my plan is to sue for peace as soon as possible after we take our objective cities.

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Do agree with the taking of foreign cities in Term 3?

Very much so. I feel we should have a minimum of two foreign cities under our control by Term 3's end.


How soon before we can even consider such a mission?

I believe our millitary is coming together and a powerful force should be available soon enough. But a real answer to this question cannot be made without coordination with the Defense Department.

What are your plans for war against a nation once we have taken our one pretermined city?

Do we implement a scorched earth policy on their remaining cities?

Do we make peace once the objective city is ours?

If an enemy declares war on us, I would probably try to acquire peace as soon as they are willing to talk. I feel we won't be able to hold a city unless we have proper troop preparations. That can only happen if we declare war, not the other way around. I believe a scorched earth policy will be a main goal of my administration. If we capture an objective city, there is a chance it might flip back, if the citie's original owner is still alive. In my opinion, we should raze all cities, save the one city from each civ we capture. Peace is not an option if Fanatikos is the agressor in a war. Once all enemy cities are razed, I will also propose a Terrain Destruction Operation to the Defense Department. This simply means I will advocate destroying all tile improvements that were in the vicinity of ruined cities. Since we can't use these tiles, there is no point to leave the improvements accessible to other civilizations.

Thank you for your time, gentlemen.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

You're welcome. :)

Do agree with the taking of foreign cities in Term 3?

In the event of a war, i do.

How soon before we can even consider such a mission?
Thats up to the military and governors, once the military is in a situation to win a war, the Foreign department will begin discussion about agressive wars, although i am against them, i will post a neutral dicussion with pros and cons. and if discussion goes far enough i will poll for war.

What are your plans for war against a nation once we have taken our one pretermined city? Military planing is up the the Military. It really depends on the reason for war. e.g. war with germany we would probably just take berlin and kill the city to our south. But if attack them with the primary goal of taking our legal city (although i am against this) we would probably want to sign peace fast afterwards.

Do we implement a scorched earth policy on their remaining cities?
When called for i have nothing against the burning down their citys, really its one of the only ways we can fight in this game.

Do we make peace once the objective city is ours?

Once again it depends on the reasons for war. but if its a simple city grab war, then yes we do.

Vote Civlord

you im sure that after reading the different arguments and policys of the candidates, a big VOTE CIVLORD will clutch the decision.

VOTE CIVLORD

Nobody <is a cool guy> Greekguy rules. He has a better proposal for the office: WAR!

M4 Sherman: warned for flaming - Rik

you im sure that after reading the different arguments and policys of the candidates, a big VOTE CIVLORD will clutch the decision.

VOTE CIVLORD


Yeah, vote Civlord. I am better than Nobody.

So, do you oficially support me now?

Nobody's better than nobody, or is nobody better than Nobody? :crazyeye:

Nobody's better than nobody, or is nobody better than Nobody? :crazyeye:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That is really the question, now isn't it?

It would be unfortunate if this recent spam war between seasoned professionals caused me to pledge my vote the third candidate merely because he rose above the fray.

Let's keep it on the issues, shall we?

Bumper sticker posts with no other content are spam, and I don't like spammers. It's actually a little bit surprising that the posts are still there. :eek:

Now for something on topic.

The questions being asked in this thread aren't really focused on the FA position. Which city to keep is the Expatriate Governor's job, and how to attack is the Defense Minister's job. Here are some more FA-like questions.

How would you try to influence our opponents to ensure they remain peaceful with us until it is time to destroy them?
Once we do get into a war of aggression, would you drag other opponents into the conflict/
Should we keep our reputation intact, or use dastardly means (sneak attacks, ROP rape) to get an edge? Does this answer depend on whether we take out the whole continent before contacting other civs?
If we need to make peace prior to totally destroying an enemy, do you support going back to war early, or do we wait the whole 20 turns?

1. How would you try to influence our opponents to ensure they remain peaceful with us until it is time to destroy them?

Trade is the best way to keep the AI happy, RoPs also work well but come with adtional risks. Gifts do the job, i do like gifts. A strong military can keep them polite. (it wont be bigger than theres but atleast average.

2. Once we do get into a war of aggression, would you drag other opponents into the conflict? Depends if its a fight to wipe them out (or signicantly hurt them) then we can bring other in. If its a fast city grab then theres no point the war wont last 20 turns.

3. Should we keep our reputation intact, or use dastardly means (sneak attacks, ROP rape) to get an edge? Does this answer depend on whether we take out the whole continent before contacting other civs?

Of course we are not Barbarins, we lose our rep we lose any possiability of Foreign Affairs in the future.. And i am against island wide genocide.

4. If we need to make peace prior to totally destroying an enemy, do you support going back to war early, or do we wait the whole 20 turns?

No i don't, as i said above we need our reputation. But no option is ever off the table.

About that signature, hmmm...., it was a jk, ok! Vote for me!


How would you try to influence our opponents to ensure they remain peaceful with us until it is time to destroy them?

I would give in to the demands of the more powerful, would gift them with some worthless tech or amount of gold and would consider (cautiously) the use of ROP treaties.

Once we do get into a war of aggression, would you drag other opponents into the conflict/


I would imediately negotiate military alliances with our neighbors. The AI must do the job for us. My intention is to have the AI civs fighting a war for us while we can give a decisive strike when our opponent is weaken by our ally. This would avoid a military alliance against us, too.

Should we keep our reputation intact, or use dastardly means (sneak attacks, ROP rape) to get an edge?

Currently for us Diplomacy is important. We don't have a strong military and a strong economy. So we must keep peace and make favorable deals with our neighbors. My plan is to keep our reputation intact during the whole Term.

If we need to make peace prior to totally destroying an enemy, do you support going back to war early, or do we wait the whole 20 turns?

That question is about our reputation. We must wait the whole 20 turns. But if Fantikos wants war, then I will have to obey the people.

Civlord

How would you try to influence our opponents to ensure they remain peaceful with us until it is time to destroy them?

I think once the War of the Books is over, we should build an embassy with the Persians. This will hopefully lead to better diplomatic relations with them. I will also advocate signing Rights of Passages when nesseccery.

Once we do get into a war of aggression, would you drag other opponents into the conflict

Of course. Dogpiling can be a very effective way to eliminate an enemy. For instance, if we declare war on Germany, we could then bring France and Rome on our side. This would result in an easy victory for us. The more nations on our side, the greater the chance we have to win the war.

Should we keep our reputation intact, or use dastardly means (sneak attacks, ROP rape) to get an edge? Does this answer depend on whether we take out the whole continent before contacting other civs?

That is a very tricky question and must be handled very carefully. While an ROP rape could result in us as the sole nation on our home continent, it will also kill future relations with the nations of the other continent, before we even met them. I think I will advocate not using ROP rape, as I want to be friends with the countries of the other continent.

If we need to make peace prior to totally destroying an enemy, do you support going back to war early, or do we wait the whole 20 turns?

Breaking a peace deal seems reasonable to me, as it will allow us to finish off an enemy who already hates us. No reason to keep them around longer then they have to be kept around.

Notice: Civlord has been permbanned in this forum, and thus is not eligable for the elections, as he no longer has access. His name will be removed from the nominations list.

Since we are minus a FA contender, I would like to nominate xyzx and Bootstoots (apologies if any of you have declined or are running in a different office but someone has to fill in the possition and you were the names that came to my head).

Please Note: I shall start closing the nomination threads and posting the polls approx 1½ hours early at 22:30 GMT (6:30 PM EDT), 26 September.

Vote Civlord. We need Honour and Competent Diplomats


Obviously.... in the forum afterlife....

with civlord, is he really gone, like he can never come back to the Demogame and future ones? He was a really good person and I'll miss him, I mean I know it was spamming but he was really just campaigning.

That's right, but it's not his spamming that got him banned. End of discussion.

This Nomination Thread is now closed for nominations. Please continue any debates/discussions in the Election Thread

Thank You