The President is responsible for control of the slider, worker allocation and resolving disputes between leaders, such as over use of gold. The President is also responsible for all tasks not assigned to another leader.

Please vote for one of the following candidates:
Donovan Zoi
ravensfire
Link to Nomination thread

This is a private poll, and will last for 3 days.

Donovan Zoi you have a great talent for the office of Presdient. I have to say thank you for fillingi n FA disscussions for me. Sadly I have school and I have very little time. I should I have taken another day off and went to that Turn Chat so I could've avoided the damn crisis :rolleyes: Good luck! :goodjob:

Not going to say who I voted for in this one but both candidates are amazingly well qualified and each have my respect and admiration

Tough choice, I will have to think on this one for a bit...

Very high quality on the candidates this time around. So I am happy with both candidates.

However, DZ delivered on his main promises, and made us a leader with only five cities, and backed my Priapos location and Great Library operation in adversity, so I vote for him.

Close call, gonna have to ask another question...

With the oncoming Republic, we will be able to rush buildings and units with greater effeciency and less loss of life. Also, when our commerce gains more might, we will be able to rush full buildings or finish partial builds that we never would have been able to in our era of Despotism. What method will you use to determine how to divide our wealth?

I'd like to start by thanking Donovan Zoi for his encouragement to run and for making this one of the more challenging races I've seen. I think we'd both make great Presidents, and Fanatikos will only be better by our presence!

Fellow citizens, I took on this challenge not because I think President Donovan Zoi has done a poor job - far from it. Nor do I think I can be that much better than he - we're both pretty darn good at this. I think I bring a different set of skills and ideas to the office, ones that I feel will help Fanatikos grow and develop.

My first task will be to create a strategy for Middle Age wonders. We'll look at all the wonders, and determine which ones we want and at what priority. We'll then take that list, and review it often to see if the time is right to start on construction for it, and which city should construct it. We'll create backup plans, just in case we don't get the wonder. These plans will be reviewed and changed as needed. During all of these discussions, I will encourage the Governors to be active and fair. Their support and assistance is critical.

I will create a solid plan for our work force. We're going to be growing rapidly soon. Our cities will need to continue their development. I will give our Governors advance notice of their worker allocations, and make sure that our workforce is at the right level.

I will lead discussions on our future development plans. We'll look through the upcoming technologies and see what our scientists are working on. Our city planners can use that information to create build queues that balance their needs, military needs and national needs.

With our upcoming switch to Republic, we will be able to complete important projects faster through massive cash expenditures. I will create a discussion on a general strategy for cash rushes, and actively work with the elected officials on these rushes. Our military will not be neglected, as those that defend us from harm, both home and abroad, must be kept well trained, and well equipped.

I will work with the Minister of Defense to review and update our military plans. Do we have enough troops? What do we need? I'll then work with the Governors to integrate those needs in their build queues.

I will work with the Designated Player pool, to keep it organized and running smooth. Future DP's will be notified in advance, so they can schedule their sessions early. DP's with questions can get answers in the FAQ, and will have a template (Thanks, CG!) to use for their instruction thread. I'll review the instructions as leaders post them, and find areas that are missing, or vague. I'll remind leaders to post instructions, if they haven't already done so.

I will be a President that leads the strategy discussions, and works to keep the game flowing for you. I will work to help our elected officials work together and in concert.

I think I'd make a good President, and I hope you agree by voting for Ravensfire.

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

*nobody walks in and casts his vote in this most important of elections*

With the oncoming Republic, we will be able to rush buildings and units with greater effeciency and less loss of life. Also, when our commerce gains more might, we will be able to rush full buildings or finish partial builds that we never would have been able to in our era of Despotism. What method will you use to determine how to divide our wealth?
Our resources must be used, or face foreign nations demanding them. This includes our financial resources. As I mentioned above, I will create a general strategy for our cash. Essentially, I want to use the majority of our income on our cities.

Absolute highest priority will be Aquaducts in those cities that need them. Once we begin our own research, projects that improve our science rate will get priority. Cities that are getting close to internal violence will see Cathedrals get bumped up on the list.

Some of our cash will also be used on our troops - to keep them well-trained and equipped. I want to see at least one defender, fully upgraded, in each city, within 20 turns of a new defensive technology.

-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

Vote for ravensfire. Donovan Zoi is already too busy. He doesn't even have time to play the Cage Match, how's he gonna be president?

Vote for ravensfire. Donovan Zoi is already too busy. He doesn't even have time to play the Cage Match, how's he gonna be president?
actually hes waiting for you to post in that thread;)

okay a question, for both candidates:
If you won, would you give the other person the first chance at being VP?

actually hes waiting for you to post in that thread;)

OH, I see. I have just done that. :)

Back on topic. Yes, as many have pointed out, two high quality candidates here. So, vote for ravensfire then Donovan Zoi will have time to finish the Cage Match. ravensifre will do a good job as president and DZ and I will give you all a very entertaining Cage Match to watch. :D

actually hes waiting for you to post in that thread;)

okay a question, for both candidates:
If you won, would you give the other person the first chance at being VP?
Surprisingly, I would not. I would try to find someone that hasn't been President before, and is interested in running for the position next term. I want to see more people interested in this position.

If I couldn't find anyone like that, I would ask DZ.

-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

People of Fanatikos,

I must start by saying that I am surprised and humbled by the outpouring of support for my re-election campaign thus far. I am also honored by the gracious electoral campaign that has been run by Chief Justice Ravensfire. As a far as I am concerned, Fanatikos wins no matter how this one pans out.

Most of you are familiar with how I operate so I will not be posting an entire platform, but instead will respond to all questions and comments directed my way.

One thing I would like to say is I have just checked out the latest save, and am filled with excitement at the opportunities that await us as a Republic this term. We will need to experience some growing pains early on, but all will be worth it in due time. Be on the lookout for a national plan from me by tomorrow evening.

That's all for the moment, Fanatikos. May the best man win!

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Close call, gonna have to ask another question...

With the oncoming Republic, we will be able to rush buildings and units with greater effeciency and less loss of life. Also, when our commerce gains more might, we will be able to rush full buildings or finish partial builds that we never would have been able to in our era of Despotism. What method will you use to determine how to divide our wealth?

Thank you for your question, Gerikes.

I can tell you that in the very infancy of our Republic, we likely won't see much gold being spent on improvements until we can build some Marketplaces. As you predicted in another thread, gold will be in short supply at the beginning due to a temporary increase in unit support. However, there will soon be a time for us to consider paying for more efficient construction deadlines.

Now, to answer your question. I have always felt that "rush gold" should be reserved for those cities whose production lags slightly behind the rest. At this time, the prime candidate for rush builds would be Styx but that is subject to change over time. Of course, I would always consider a rush build in any city if the proposal made sense.

Ideally, I would like to maximize our cities to the point where we don't have to consider many rush builds at all, but as bigger ticket items present themselves, we should probably have a stockpile of gold in reserve just in case.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Absolute highest priority will be Aquaducts in those cities that need them. Once we begin our own research, projects that improve our science rate will get priority. Cities that are getting close to internal violence will see Cathedrals get bumped up on the list.

I will have to slightly disagree with Ravensfire here. The top priority in Civantonia and Styx (our only non-river cities) would be slightly different under my watch, as long as each governor is willing.

For Styx, priority one would be a Granary, as it is set to be an optimum worker pump. By commissioning a Granary in Styx, we will be able to immediately join some of our current workers to Olympus so that we may begin to enjoy the extra population granted by our new Mausoleum. If all goes well, this will go into effect before the end of Term 2.

Civantonia will need a Cathedral before it can even use an Aqueduct, so this city should start with a Temple followed by non-stop military builds until we can consider taking it to the next level.

Besides that, the absolute priority for Term 3 builds will be Marketplaces. I envision Olympus and Priapos leading the way here, with the other cities following suit over time.


Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

actually hes waiting for you to post in that thread;)

okay a question, for both candidates:
If you won, would you give the other person the first chance at being VP?

That has been my intention since I invited Ravensfire into the race. I figured that if I were fortunate enough to win, my Term 3 presidency would be complemented by having a Vice-President that has a passion for getting people involved or reacquainted with the game. Without shame, I will proudly concede that Ravensfire has me beat in that category.

I like how DZ operated this term and he was pure deadly efficiency, Ravensfire, sorry, but my vote goes for DZ!

-Ranger99-

Well, my vote will come down to this question:

What is your preffered victory condition to win this game? And what will you do this term to move towards that goal?

hmmm 12-9 , the gap is closing,,,,,

First the White Sox, and now this......

Oh, well. Our stats in Term 2 speak for themselves.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/DG7_bc410_democomp.jpg

Well, my vote will come down to this question:

What is your preffered victory condition to win this game? And what will you do this term to move towards that goal?

Histograph or Cultural. How? The same way I have been doing throughout Term 2: seeing what others don't.

There, that oughtta tie it up..... :lol:

Well, my vote will come down to this question:

What is your preffered victory condition to win this game? And what will you do this term to move towards that goal?

For this game, with the stucture we have, my preference is Spaceship, followed by Diplomancy

Diplomacy is a gimme win - anyone can by buying their way, but if we choose to NOT buy our way through, we must play honorably and fairly through out. The temptation to "adjust" the odds will be too great, however, and I fear that many people would vote for a massive foreign aid plan.

Spaceship requires time to develop our cities, and time for our opponents to possibly fight back against us. We need solid teamwork, to build the parts and defend the homeland. My hope is that all parts would be built in the homeland, and our freed cities will aid in our defense. With multiple DP's, allowing game sessions to extend beyond 10 turns, and fewer cities, this is a viable strategy.

Domination is right out. There's just no way in a 5BC that we could win it.

Histograph is also out. The time required, even with many turns per game session, is just too long.

Conquest is very possible. Indeed, with a strong core producing troops, backed up by the freed cities, we could succeed. I prefer a more "refined" approach, however.

Culture is extremely difficult. It's possible, as we can focus on culture earlier, without the need for massive expansion. The 120k is very difficult, without the large city base needed. The 25k city is more probably, but we might be too late to push a city into that goal.

My preference is Spaceship, with Diplomacy a close second.

-- Ravensfire, candidate for President

Wow. 12/11/1. I knew this was going to be a tough choice.

I'm impressed with DZ's Term 2. It was good to see him go full bore for an entire Term and accomplish so much. Post #21 reminds me of my Term as Domestic Advisor. :goodjob:

I do like Ravenfire's answer to the End Game question, though. I think that Spaceship, although not one of my favorite Civ3 Victory types, would be obtainable and very challenging at the same time (can't stand Diplo Victories).

I may just vote to tie it up, but let me think about it.... :mischief:

Oh,man....
Somebody already tied it up.... :sad:

At first ravensfire was getting pwned, but now it's tied! :eek: I'll make the popcorn.

Did I just type "pwned?"

I have to say that the scales have been tipped in ravensfire's favor, due to my vote. I felt that ravensfire has done an exempliary(sp?) job so far and deserves to have an important position such as president.

Well I place my vote for ravensfire, as Spaceship is the one victory I really want us to do this game. No hard feelings Donovan_Zoi!

Outvoted 11-1 after an 11-3 lead. Pathetic. :(

I've got a busy month in October, so I am conceding this thing.

Good luck, Ravensfire! Hope you can do more with this ghost town than I have. ;)


Thanks for having me as President in Term 2. See you all in Civ4! :D

Ok, wait wait wait, does that mean that you're quitting the WHOLE DG!!???

NOOOO!! Not good, at all, please stay, please, please, please, please, stay!

-Ranger99-

Outvoted 11-1 after an 11-3 lead. Pathetic. :(

I've got a busy month in October, so I am conceding this thing.

Good luck, Ravensfire! Hope you can do more with this ghost town than I have. ;)


Thanks for having me as President in Term 2. See you all in Civ4! :D

Uh huh - and the next 12 hours will see me go 1-4 probably!

This is the second extremely close race I've been in, and the last one ended as a tie (Hi Cyc! :wavey: ), so no way do I think this is over! Heck, you almost go my withdrawal speech this morning!

-- Ravensfire

Thanks, Ravensfire, but allow me to repeat myself. I have conceded.

When people are basing their vote on eventual victory conditions instead of our plans for the unfinished business at hand this term, I really think it's time to take a step back.

When people let me lead them to the door of the Republic and have no interest in my plans once we get there, it makes me a bit indifferent too.

It's also telling that the people would prefer Ravensfire plus a "wild card" VP over the two of us pairing our relative strengths. :confused:

Most of all, it's just aggravating to think that you have a well-earned mandate only to watch it slip away the minute you open your mouth. I won't make that mistake again.

Or maybe everyone just wants to go and watch the Cage Match.

Well, this candidate is off to his summer home in Priapos while Ravensfire picks up where I left off. He will be a great leader for this nation, and I wish you all the best of luck.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

Thanks, Ravensfire, but allow me to repeat myself. I have conceded.

Bummer. Sorry to see you prematurely eject here, DZ. :(

When people are basing their vote on eventual victory conditions instead of our plans for the unfinished business at hand this term, I really think it's time to take a step back.
I was actually basing my vote on your job well done... :rolleyes:

When people let me lead them to the door of the Republic and have no interest in my plans once we get there, it makes me a bit indifferent too.
It's also telling that the people would prefer Ravensfire plus a "wild card" VP over the two of us pairing our relative strengths. :confused:
Most of all, it's just aggravating to think that you have a well-earned mandate only to watch it slip away the minute you open your mouth. I won't make that mistake again.
I'm confused, too. I thought you would have made a great team, just as you'd both be good going solo. I'll pretend people just want to watch you play the Cage Match and let it go at that. I'll put a vote for you on the tip of my boot and help you out the door. :lol: Have fun in Priapos.

A Supporter

Congrats, President Ravensfire! :goodjob:

Looks like a tie to me ...

-- Ravensfire

Thanks, Ravensfire, but allow me to repeat myself. I have conceded.
Looks like a tie doesn't matter. Too bad. :(

Looks like a tie doesn't matter. Too bad. :(

Chin up, RegentMan. My little act of self-righteousness just saved our nation from an uncertain kickoff to Term 3. Besides, I am pretty sure that my recent behavior here would nullify my runoff chances anyways.

If only the vote tallies would have accumulated less erratically than they had. I would have been satisfied with a neck and neck race to 14-all, as this would have been exactly the race I had hyped when I invited Ravensfire to "battle" in the first place. But until you have seen an 11-3 lead disappear before your very eyes, please try not to judge my erratic behavior.

Ravensfire met my challenge and we fought to a draw. Yet Ravensfire had the resolve to be the last man standing. Now that my bitterness has somewhat subsided, I would like to give him the honor he deserves by congratulating him on what is likely his most unsatisfying of victories. I also call on all who voted for me to ease this transition by giving President-elect Ravensfire your full support.

Thanks for the great race, Ravensfire. It was the stuff that dreams were made of, right up to the point where I flew the coop. I know that you will serve our people better than that. :blush:


Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
President of Fanatikos

A tie is a tie :) As I said early in the thread, I was very happy with both options.

I wanted to see a run-off...

Someone still has to break Donsig and my number of run-offs. That was a fun election :).

Someone still has to break Donsig and my number of run-offs. That was a fun election :).
Which one was that? DG I or II?

Which one was that? DG I or II?

Demogame II, Donsig and I tied in the election (Donsig vs. Strider vs. Stuck_as_a_mac). A run-off poll was made between Donsig and I, and we tied again.

My apologies for my absence, something unexpected came up.

It was fitting that the best race I've seen in quite some time ended as a tie. Were I not involved, and the same race happened, a coin could very well have been used to make the decision.

Donovan Zoi, I do swear and promise that during my term, Fanatikos will grow and develop into the vision of a powerful nation that began under your term.

Fellow Citizens, applaud and honor President Donovan Zoi, for all that we might accomplish this term is based on the efforts of his term!

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Demogame II, Donsig and I tied in the election (Donsig vs. Strider vs. Stuck_as_a_mac). A run-off poll was made between Donsig and I, and we tied again.

That was a long time ago. I know we were on opposite sides of some issue though I can't remember what it was... Republic versus monarchy? War versus peace? All I remember about that game is governing the old Southwest Province from Tlaxcala and wanting to retire to Palanthus on the east coast. :D

Since we're on the subject of a long time ago...

...where's that Cage Match save DZ? You've been out of office almost a week now. Time to show the world just what a Size 12 plan can accomplish! :p

That was a long time ago. I know we were on opposite sides of some issue though I can't remember what it was... Republic versus monarchy? War versus peace? All I remember about that game is governing the old Southwest Province from Tlaxcala and wanting to retire to Palanthus on the east coast. :D

Honestly, I can't remember what it was either. I got it in the end though! :p