Welcome to the Term 3 Presidential Office!

Grab a glass of wine, sit down and relax! Got a question, comment or complaint? Let me know!

When's the next turn chat?
Saturday, October 8th at 10 am EDT

Wondering how we got here?
Term 1 Presidential Office of Octavian X (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=125757)
Term 2 Presidential Office of Donovan Zoi (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=127515)

Looking for another part of the Government?
President: Ravensfire
Vice-President: Donovan Zoi

Minister of Defense (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130078): Ranger99
Minister of Trade and Technology (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130086): Strider
Minister of Foreign Affairs (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130160): greekguy

Governor of Olympus (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130178): CivGeneral
Governor of Civatonia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130081): Ginger_Ale
Governor of Styx (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130244): DaveShack
Governor of The Augean Stables (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130195): Furiey
Governor of Priapos (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130101): Gerikes
Expatriate Governor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130105): TimBentley

Chief Justice (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130319): Bootstoots
Judge Advocate: Black_Hole
Public Defender: mhcarver

Designated Player Pool (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130125)

Presidential Goals
Develop strategy for workers, allowing Governors to plan with known resources
Push for discussion on determining our military defense structure
Encourage use of our cash resources to speed development of our cities and troops
Update and Maintain our history (turn chat history and log)
Turn Fanatikos into the technological leader

National Goals
Finish Aqueducts where needed within 40 turns - DONE
Finish Marketplaces in all cities within 80 turns - 1 city to go!
Build 2 cathedrals by end of term
Have 3 middle-age Wonders built or under construction by end of term
Hold 8 game sessions this term

Budget - 460AD

Slider Settings: 70% Science 20% Income 10% Entertainment

Treasury: 564 Gold
Income: 0 gold per turn

Revenue:
-- Cities: 237(+ from last save)
-- Taxmen: 0
-- Other Civs: 44 (+ from last save)
-- Interest: 0

Expenses:
-- Science: -157 (+ from last save)
-- Entertainment: -15 (+ from last save)
-- Corruption: -23 (- from last save)
-- Maintenance: -36 (- from last save)
-- Military: -48 (- from last save)
-- Other Civs: -2

Wonders under Construction

Sun Tzu's Art of War: Romans (Rome); French (Paris); Persians (Persepolis)
Knights Templar: Fanatiks (The Augean Stables)

Wonders Built
Great Library : Fanatiks (Civantonia) 1350 BC
Oracle: Japanese (Kyoto) 950 BC
Colossus: English (London) 950 BC
Pyramids: Japanese (Babylon) 610 BC
Mausoleum of Mausollo: Fanatiks (Olympus) 430 BC
Temple of Artemis:Persians (Persepolis) 350 BC
Statue of Zues:English (Nottingham) 330 BC
Great Wall: French (Paris) 50 BC
Hanging Gardens: Persians (Persepollis) 280 AD
Great Lighthouse: French (Tours) 280 AD

Presidential Discussions
Current Budget thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=130822)
Restarting our Science (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130602)
Term 3 Wonders (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=130265)

Mr President

I wish to request some workers to improve around The Augean Stables. This city is currently size six, working 2 unimproved tiles and only making +1 food per turn. The tasks I wish them to perform initially is to irrigate the uniproved plains sugar, and mine the gold hill. This will enable the city to grow more quickly to size 7 (increasing our unit support) and increase spt and gpt. So far I have assumed in my plans that these workers will become available after they finish roading and mining the hill by Olympus that they are currently on (they're there so they might as well finish). Will you please inform me whether or not these workers will be available so that I can adjust my plans to suit.

Thank You

Governor Furiey

It is my great privledge to introduce my Vic-President - Donovan Zoi.

The architect of our success last term, he and I will work from that base to turn Fanatikos into the superpower we are destined to become!

Vice-President Donovan Zoi will be more than a passive, rarely used Deputy. He will be actively helping me manage certain issues. I have asked him to coordinate the efforts of our workers. I ask the Governors to direct their questions towards him.

Thanks, DZ!

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I repeat my request then to the Vice President. Any chance of a Worker? If so when?

Augean Stables will not grow for another 20 turns and then growth will stop without improvement. As this growth is so slow I do not want to lose any population, however I have come up with a plan to produce a Worker immediately and join it back to the city later on when the city has passed size 7 and would take even longer to grow. In the meantime I would use this worker (and preferably another if I could have one) to improve the city and increase growth, commerce and shields. If I produce this Worker would I be able to keep it and join it back when I wished?

I repeat my request then to the Vice President. Any chance of a Worker? If so when?

Governor Furiey,

I've requested that Vice-President Donovan Zoi present his plan for the workforce as soon as possible so that you and the other Governors may review and comment upon it. I hope that it will be up sometime tonight.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Mr. President, Ravensfire,

I would like to ask for the funds necessary for our Embassy to conduct an Investigation of Berlin. It is critical that we know what forces are currently residing in Germany as I have to decide on whether or not to include an extra two Swordsman in my attack plan, leaving us undefended for a whil ebut making it possible to capture Berlin. I;'d prefer nto to use the extra tweo Swords as we'll be compltley exposed and open to any attack at all with only a static defense to help us. Therefore makiing this Investigation all the more important.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

Mr. President, Ravensfire,

I would like to ask for the funds necessary for our Embassy to conduct an Investigation of Berlin. It is critical that we know what forces are currently residing in Germany as I have to decide on whether or not to include an extra two Swordsman in my attack plan, leaving us undefended for a whil ebut making it possible to capture Berlin. I;'d prefer nto to use the extra tweo Swords as we'll be compltley exposed and open to any attack at all with only a static defense to help us. Therefore makiing this Investigation all the more important.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

Minister Ranger99,

Please direct your request to Minister greekguy. The Department of Foreign Affairs controls the actions of all Fanatikos spies.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Presidential Instructions for 150 BC

Workers
The Southwest worker between Styx and Priapos is assigned to Styx.

Once the stack of 6 workers completes the mine, 2 workers are assigned to Augean Stables, and the remaining 4 are assigned to Olympus under the provision that up to 3 may be merged into Olympus.

Slider
The slider is to remain at 0% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that 4 of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers.

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
-- Styx's request for Granary rush (approx 168 gold)
-- Investigation of Berlin at the end of the turn chat (approx 26 gold)- DON'T FORGET THIS Please take a screenshot of the investigation
-- All other requests may be performed so long as funds are available for these two items.

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should only one city riot, and the Governor not issue instructions allowing entertainers
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Thank you Mr President for the Workers. I hope that I make suitable use of them and that Fanatikos will benefit from the improvements being made to The Augean Stables.

Mr. President what are our long term strategies for Term III?

Mr President,

In case you haven't noticed there is a forum upgrade scheduled for tonight starting approx 9PM EST. The DP will need to take a copy of the TCIT before this time if they are to continue with the chat as scheduled.

Vice-President Donovan Zoi,

We've got a fair number of workers, and Olympus is at a pretty good size. What are your recommendations for our workforce during the next game session? Not all cities are capable of growing any further, due to a lack of fresh water. Also, some need additional work on the land around them to give new citizens places to grow and work.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

President Ravensfire,

If we declare war on Germany, and one of our Hoplites is attacked and wins, then this will lead to much celebration and start a golden age for our nation. If this occurs, do you have any intention of stopping the chat so that governors could rethink their plans as this will greatly affect production in their cities, and could be of great benefit if the city was building for a Wonder for example. Not knowing when this event will occur makes it difficult to produce plans to maximise use of the benefits obtained.

Workers
Allocation: (final numbers to be worked out tonight)
Olympus: 1 worker
Civantonia: 1-2 worker
Augean Stables: 2-3 workers
Styx: 1-2 workers
Priapos: 1-2 worker

Slider
The slider is to remain at 0% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that 4 of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers.

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
-- 96 Gold for partial Temple rush in Augean Stables
-- All other requests may be performed so long as funds are available for these two items.

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should only one city riot, and the Governor not issue instructions allowing entertainers
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us
-- Should we enter a Golden Age, please complete any further battles that turn. If this happens from an AI attack, please halt the session immediately.

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

President Ravensfire,

Draft instructions for The Augean Stables are up in the city thread. These instructions are based on the continued use of all 3 Workers and if the Knights Templar is commenced immediately following the Market, will allow the Wonder to completed on turn 47. There is also an additional short rush of 12 (twelve) gold requested to avoid a large waste of shields when building the Market.

Edit: These instructions also assume that specialists will not be needed, although I have made provision for them if necessary in my instructions.

Mr President,

Your instructions were missed in the recent turnchat and as a result of them not being posted we are researching at 30%. We also have an opportunity to start our Golden Age. This is a significant decision, and if we wish to take it up, perhaps we could use a special session just for that event to allow the Governors to rebalance their cities for the increase production and our science for the increased research.

Citizens,

My sincere apologies for missing the instructions for the game session. A matter came up early this morning, and I completely forgot about transferring my proposed instructions over.

I hope my lapse did not cause any issues, and will take steps to ensure it does not happen again.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I see we have a dedicated president here. This Term seems to be promissing.

I see we have a dedicated president here. This Term seems to be promissing.

Give credit, instead, to the active Governors we have, that are developing their cities and working together for mutual benefit.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

President Ravensfire, Greetings from the Golden City of Priapos!

In the last few years within our nation, we have seen an increase in scholars and sages publishing and spreading new ideas. It seems our funding to these people have increased. Are these expenditures expected to continue? I noticed that you didn't post in your instructions the increase, so it must have been a DP call (of which I agree with, BTW). Since the planned build for a Cathedral in Priapos only made it ten shields, I now plan on changing the production of Priapos to a Library then back to a more aggressive pre-build for the Cathedral. However, this is only if the current Science spending remains constant.

Please let us know of your ideas or potential discussions so as to allow myself and our other Governors to plan accordingly.

President Ravensfire,

Just to let you now my thoughts regarding the Augean Stables for the next session. The current plan for The Augean Stables allows the Knights Templar to be built in 39 turns from now. I am begininng to feel that this will not be quick enough however. I will therefore be looking at what I can do to speed this up, but from what I can see a Market will still be needed first or our nation will not be able to afford the luxury spending required to support the population needed. I will therefore be looking at options to rush the Market to a greater extent than I had planned previously. The main limitation on build speed is the time it takes to improve the land to give more shields, of course a Golden Age would help as well, but again to take best advantage of that we would need to get the Market out of the way first.

I will keep you informed of my findings, but it will be tomorrow now before I get a chance to look further.

Governor Furiey

President Ravensfire,

I must apologize for my absence. I had tried to access the last save on Friday moring, but the server was down. I did not have access to the game again until this evening.

Now that I am back, I will do my best to help you in your duties. I have started by standing with you against the wasteful actions of our Olympus Governor, and by asking the following of our last DP:

Governor Ginger Ale,

Could you please tell me why we are sitting at 30% science rate? I realize that the President didn't provide instructions, but with the off chance that other nation's are likely reseaching Monotheism why did we choose a middle of the road option?

If we were at 0%, we would have at least made a commitment to allow one of the other nations to research for us. If we neared 90 to 100%, we could have gotten Monotheism in a mere 6 to 8 turns. Sitting at 30%, we have made a half hearted attempt at research ---one which will be a unnecessary waste of resources if we end up getting this tech from the Great Library.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Vice President

Please let me know how you plan to handle this tech fiasco. Even without your direction, we should never adopt a middle of the road research policy ---especially now. Please help me get to the bottom of this.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Vice President

I was following technology instructions (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3146196&postcount=6). The build queue in Olympus, while wasteful, was also following instructions. You must understand I went into this session withOUT Presidential, Military, or Foreign Affairs (until 10 minutes prior to the TC) instructions.

I was following technology instructions (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3146196&postcount=6). The build queue in Olympus, while wasteful, was also following instructions. You must understand I went into this session withOUT Presidential, Military, or Foreign Affairs (until 10 minutes prior to the TC) instructions.

Absent any instructions from me, you were quite correct to seek input from other sources, and make your decision. As you are aware, the slider is entirely under control of the Presidential office. I fear the deputy Trade and Technology Minister was not aware of this, and thus set the rate to 30%.

You were entirely within your discretion as DP to set the slider to 30%. Any trouble this causes is my fault alone - I failed to post the instructions.

At this time, I do not plan to continue that, but to reset the rate back to 0% for the upcoming turn chat. At that point, I will carefully re-evaluate the situation. It is my hope that we'll have Aqueducts in the cities that need them, and build all of our cities up to at least size 8 prior to restarting our research programs.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Vice-President Donovan Zoi,

If you've got a chance, please review our current work force assignments, and plan for the next session. Right now, 3 are working for Governor Furiey (Augean Stables), 2 for Governor DaveShack (Styx), 3 are working for Governor Gerikis (Priapos) and 1 capture German worker, under guard, is working for Governor Ginger_Ale (Civantonia).

If we can give our Governors some idea as to the workers allocated to them early, they will be able to make more informed plans.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Vice-President Donovan Zoi,

If you've got a chance, please review our current work force assignments, and plan for the next session. Right now, 3 are working for Governor Furiey (Augean Stables), 2 for Governor DaveShack (Styx), 3 are working for Governor Gerikis (Priapos) and 1 capture German worker, under guard, is working for Governor Ginger_Ale (Civantonia).

If we can give our Governors some idea as to the workers allocated to them early, they will be able to make more informed plans.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Well, you were close. :P

In any case, some of the workers in Priapos can be helping Olympus too. Currently, I hope to have one of the workers road the Forest in between Olympus and Priapos, as well as mine and road the unimproved grassland that lies within both Olympus' and Priapos' lands. The grassland will most likely be used by Priapos and the Forest will more likely be used by Olympus (I would think). With these two things (along with the workers current tasks and the Grassland just E of Priapos), Priapos would be completely set for worker improvements within it's boundaries (with the possible exception of clearing a forest later on in the hopes to look for a BG).

Vice-President Donovan Zoi,

If you've got a chance, please review our current work force assignments, and plan for the next session. Right now, 3 are working for Governor Furiey (Augean Stables), 2 for Governor DaveShack (Styx), 3 are working for Governor Gerikis (Priapos) and 1 capture German worker, under guard, is working for Governor Ginger_Ale (Civantonia).

If we can give our Governors some idea as to the workers allocated to them early, they will be able to make more informed plans.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I can tell you right now that the two workers in Styx need to be recommissioned immediately. That city is overdeveloped by 3 tiles, with a fourth on the way.

I would recommend Civantonia, so that we could finally mine the Iron Mountain, as well as re-mine the bonus grassland that was pillaged by the barbs.

However, we still have much growth potential, but with only 9 workers. With its minimal production, I believe that Berlin would be the ideal next worker factory, but we will have to prop it up a bit first.

More later, when I have a bit more time.


Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Vice-President

I absolutely agree that Civantonia needs significant land development. I've had many inquiries from various development firms, suggesting plans, requesting permits, even threatening "those tree-hugging idiots stopping progress!"

The security situation over there is difficult. Several German armies are near the border, and threatening to cross in. So long as they aren't placed in danger, our workers are needed there.

Olympus looks good - there are several open areas to develop in. Augean Stables, with their plans to build a grand fortress for someone, will need further development of the hills to provide the resources needed. Styx is poised for an influx of workers at the end of the next session, so long as the water supply supports them. Priapos is nearly fully developed. Berlin isn't bad off right now, with most of the immediate land developed. Once the borders expand, as our survey crews venture forth, we'll have some work to do there.

It looks like the priorities are Civantonia, Augean Stables, Styx and Berlin.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I can tell you right now that the two workers in Styx need to be recommissioned immediately. That city is overdeveloped by 3 tiles, with a fourth on the way.


Overdeveloped on a numerical basis, yes, however not overdeveloped on an optimum usage basis. Two of the three irrigated plains you are referring to were only developed in order to get water to the cattle, and working them would just reduce our production. The current projects are improving shield production and gold so that Styx's overabundance of food can be balanced with other needs. If we press forward with an aqueduct then we'll need the irrigated plains soon enough. :)

Overdeveloped on a numerical basis, yes, however not overdeveloped on an optimum usage basis. Two of the three irrigated plains you are referring to were only developed in order to get water to the cattle, and working them would just reduce our production. The current projects are improving shield production and gold so that Styx's overabundance of food can be balanced with other needs. If we press forward with an aqueduct then we'll need the irrigated plains soon enough. :)

Yours is the only city enjoying this measure of pre-planning, and to the detriment of Civantonia as well as growth efforts. It also nullifies the case for further worker requests from Styx, which is extremely unforunate.

We must now turn our eyes to Berlin for this task, and must hope that Governor TimBentley can sign on to a longer term worker plan.

President Ravensfire, we need to let the Market place finish its build, then rush the Aqueduct as soon as possible. This is the only way we will be able to right this level of mis-planning. Workers should be removed from Styx immediately.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Vice President

Yours is the only city enjoying this measure of pre-planning, and to the detriment of Civantonia as well as growth efforts. It also nullifies the case for further worker requests from Styx, which is extremely unforunate.

We must now turn our eyes to Berlin for this task, and must hope that Governor TimBentley can sign on to a longer term worker plan.

President Ravensfire, we need to let the Market place finish its build, then rush the Aqueduct as soon as possible. This is the only way we will be able to right this level of mis-planning. Workers should be removed from Styx immediately.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi
Vice President

I'm not sure why the current state of affairs would nullify requests for more workers. One needs merely ask. :) I was planning to suggest another 1-2 workers prior to the aqueduct, putting some turns of our own labor into it, and then rushing it after the marketplace has already filled our coffers with some of the necessary funds. Call it a pay as you go plan. :D

As for the currently allocated workers, their current tasks will be completed very soon, and Styx won't need their services for quite some time after that anyway.

President Ravensfire,

I have had a look at some of the options for building the Knights Templar more quickly in The Augean Stables. The current plan for developing the high production tiles and the irrigated grassland to support the population working these tiles holds up, but requires that the 3 Workers currently improving the land continue. A summary of my findings follow.

39 turns for the original schedule to complete the Knights Templar with a part rush of the Market and 1 worker joined to the city when the mountain is mined.

35 turns with the same worker schedule if the Market is rushed to completion on turn 3 following the forest chop (cost 224 gold, time saved 5 turns over a short rush, 9 turns over no rush, 11gpt extra gold earned, 1gpt extra in support, net cost 134 gold).

34 turns if 2 workers are added rather than 1 after the mountain is mined (the shields from adding the third would not reduce the time taken)

33 turns following the original plan of mining the mountain, but if 1 Worker is joined around turn 17 when the city grows to size 8. None of the 3 Workers will need to be joined to the city when the mountains are mined.

32 turns if the mountain is NOT mined, but ALL THREE Workers are joined directly back to the city on completion of the hill mining (1 on turn 15, 2 on turn 23)

All these plans but the last leave the city with zero growth at size 9 giving 16spt (13 after corruption) and assume that the lux slider will be used to support the population without the need for specialist. Now that the Temple is complete, the city should be OK at size 7 at the current lux settings, but will require the lux slider when it grows larger (approx turn 17).

The final plan will put the city at size 11 which will need considerable use of the luxury slider to support.

I therefore propose to rush the market and continue with the mountain mining plan to join 2 Workers at the end. If an extra Worker can be joined around the turn 17 mark that would be an added bonus and would free all 3 Workers at the end.

Your comments would be appreciated.

Mr President and Vice President,

I would like to further clarify the worker situation in Styx. One of our work teams is finished with its assignment, and their bags are packed awaiting orders to proceed to the next location which needs their services. My objection is to immediate reassignment of the other team, which is currently in the final stages of building a mine. It would only make sense to have this team also build a road on the land they are already familiar with prior to their departure.

Draft instructions have been prepared in the city thread under the assumption that this plan is acceptable. Also note we are prepared to train and equip yet another workgroup (as well as contributing to the navy) prior to resuming city infrastructure building.

Sincerely, DaveShack
Governor of Styx

Mr President and Vice President,

I am truly sorry for adding the colosseum into the queue. I am planning to hopefully correct this problem and work with the other governors. Right now I am going to remove the granary from the queue and replace it with a barrack to produce vet hoplites.

Again, I am truly sorry for the wastefull acton that I have done :sad:.

Regards,
CivGeneral

Citizens,

The Turn Chat Summary thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=124084) has been updated with Term 3 information!

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Presidential Instructions for 150 AD

Workers
3 workers to Augean Stables (current workers)

As the 3 workers around Styx complete their tasks, they are allocated to Civantonia. If any unit from a civ at war with us gets within 2 squares of an unescorted worker (3 if the unit is a fast one), the worker is de-allocated and must immediately move to a save location as determined by the DP.

The captured German worker in Civantonia is to remain.

The remaining workers are allocated to Priapos.

Slider
The slider is to be set at 0% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that all of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers.
Depending on length, and how prepared the cities are, this may be the last session with 0% science

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
-- Marketplace in Augean Stables on Turn 3 - 224 Gold

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should only one city riot, and the Governor not issue instructions allowing entertainers
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Greetings, Mr. President, from the Golden City of Priapos!

There is rumor that we will be putting our researchers, scientists and scholars on a new initiaitive that will recieve tax funding to help our technological aspects of society. Let me say that I am in full support of this measure. In order to properly manage Priapos, I was hoping for information. Could you give us an idea of how long we expect to have at our disposal our first initiative breakthrough, rumored to spread the Monotheistic support throughout the land? It will help in the prefabrication techniques being used in the construction of a Cathedral in Priapos.

Governor,

I've got top men working on this. Top men.

Once they get their results to me, I'll be sure to pass the information on to you. The absolute fastest possible rate is 6 turns, although that is highly unlikely to happen. I would expect 7 to 12 turn research rate for Monotheism.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Game summary thread updated.

Presidential thread updated.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Mr President.

Due to the recent riots we have lost a turns production and the Knights Templar is now due in 26 turns. I have posted my proposed instruction in the city thread and have assumed as before that all 3 Workers continue improving The Augean Stables. There will be adequate improved tiles to support additional poplulation beyond the rate at which the city can grow, so if a Worker is free to be joined we may reduce this by 1 turn by joining a Worker within 14 turns, or by 2 turns if a Worker is joined immediately. These are the latest dates and leave no room for mistake (like the recent riot or just bad maths). I realise that Workers will probably not be available for this, but am keeping you informed so that you are aware of all the options.

Furiey, Governor of The Augean Stables.

PS: Please try and ensure we get our luxuries back in some shape or form, the smell from the stables is getting pretty strong.

I'd like to request 152 gold for rushing a library in Berlin. This will put good tiles under its control (on turn 5 or 6 it should get that nearby tile currently controlled by Frankfurt).

Proposed instructions for 290 AD

Workers
3 workers to Augean Stables

3 workers to Civantonia.

1 worker plus the captured German worker to Berlin.

2 workers are allocated to Priapos and Olympus (DP's judgement as to prioritization).

The third worker at Priapos (currently on a mined grassland) is to be merged into Civantonia.

If any unit from a civ at war with us gets within 2 squares of an unescorted worker (3 if the unit is a fast one), the worker is de-allocated and must immediately move to a save location as determined by the DP.

Slider
The slider is to be set at 60% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that all of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers. Should our trades happen, this should maintain a positive GPT.

We may go into negative gpt for this session, so long as we don't go more than -10 gpt. Please reduce the science rate to maintain a maximum loss of 10 gpt if that should happen.

As we approach learning a tech, decrease the tech slider so long as the time does change, to maximize our income.

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
-- 152 gold for the Berlin Library (PRIORITY)

Please maintain a cushion of 400 gold, do not rush anything that would take our gold below that unless it is culture or growth related.

All other requests for funds may be prioritized by the DP.

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should only one city riot, and the Governor not issue instructions allowing entertainers
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I'm planning for Berlin to produce a worker on turn 9, so you can consider that in planning worker allocation.

President Ravensfire,

I have been assessing the Knights Templar prebuild situation in The Augean Stables. Unfortunatley the MM and Worker actions were not carried out as instructed and we are a turn behind at this point in production. However 2 additional Workers have arrived on the Gold Mountain to get a head start on the mining operation which will gain us the turn back.

My assessment shows that the quickest we can build the Knights Templar is on turn 18.

To do this however I need to join 2 of the Workers currently working at the Augean Stables to the city, probably in the next turnchat and keep the remaining Workers to mine the mountain. The Worker join will need to happen on turn 7 of the next session and will take the city to size 10. There is nothing to waste in this plan, so we will also need to run the necessary lux so that we do not need entertainers. This may be expensive in the short run, but without the Worker joins it will be turn 20 before we build the Knights Templar. These 2 extra turns may be the difference between building this Wonder for the good of the whole of Fanatikos and losing it to France (in their Golden Age), Rome or Persia.

The detailed plan is posted in the city thread, I await your response as obviously the plan will be different if these workers are not joined to the city.

Thank You,

Furiey

President Ravensfire,

I am pleased to hear that two of the work crews will soon be joining The Augean Stables as permanent citizen, the plan to complete the Knights Templar in 18 turns shows that the best time for this will be in 7 turns when they finish mining the hill by the city.

There are however a total of 5 workcrews in the area at the moment, and the plan to complete the Knights Templar in 18 turns needs to keep the other 3 until the gold mountain is mined and preferrably roaded (turn 11 if my estimates are correct). After that all 3 could be released to work on the next project, although in trying to build the Knights Templar as quickly as possible the hill by the city will be left unroaded and these 3 workers could do that very quickly, this would delay the release date by 3 turns but the workers would be 1 turn closer to where they would be going making an effective delay of 2 turns. Alternatively one on its own would take longer but allow 2 of the work crews to be released as soon as the mountain is mined and roaded. After that the city will have enough fully improved tiles to work. At a slower pace the river plains could be irrigated and roaded to be used instead of non-river tiles to increase our commerce. One workcrew on their own could do this to increase the income for Fanatikos and improve troop movement across the river towards France, but I would understand if improvements elsewhere were more important.

My preferred option would be:

join 2 on turn 7
remaining 3 finish mining and roading the gold hill (turn 11), road the hill by the city.
2 of the 3 are then released (turn 14)
1 if possible remains to slowly improve the higher commerce river tiles

Looking to the distant future, the remaining Mountain in the city limits will not need to be improved until we discover a new technology to enable us to produce more from our land and travel at a far faster rate about our nation. Until then the city will not be able to support sufficient population to effectively work a second Mountain.

Thank You,

Governor Furiey

Proposed instructions for 360 AD

Workers
Maintain current allocation.

If any unit from a civ at war with us gets within 2 squares of an unescorted worker (3 if the unit is a fast one), the worker is de-allocated and must immediately move to a save location as determined by the DP.

Slider
The slider is to be set at 60% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that all of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers. Once we learn Chivalry (8 turns), raise the slider to 80% Science.

We may go into negative gpt for this session, so long as we don't go more than -10 gpt. Please reduce the science rate to maintain a maximum loss of 10 gpt if that should happen.

As we approach learning a tech, decrease the tech slider so long as the time does change, to maximize our income.

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
-- 180 gold for the Priapos Cathedral (PRIORITY)
-- 89 Gold for Embassy with Japan

Please maintain a cushion of 400 gold, do not rush anything that would take our gold below that unless it is culture or growth related.

All other requests for funds may be prioritized by the DP.

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should only one city riot, and the Governor not issue instructions allowing entertainers
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

President ravensfire,

The Fanatikos Foreign Affairs Consulate kindly requests for the current budget to make room for the building of an embassy with the newest allies of Fanatikos, Japan. They are a friendly people and will make very valuable allies in the future. I feel learning as much as we can now, will be very helpful in the future. Please consider my request and respond soon. Thank You.

- Foreign Affairs Consul greekguy

President Ravensfire,

I notice that your instructions say to maintain 60% science, please would you consider allowing this rate to be lowered if we can still achieve Chivalry in the same number of turns.

I also wish to point out that your instructions regarding the use of the lux slider with respect to keeping the cities happy could be could be confusing with the stop conditions regarding if more than one citiy riots. I am particularly aware of these points as when the Workers are joined to The Augean Stables taking it to size 10 it will need additional lux to prevent the use of entertainers. At that time, The Augean Stables is likely to be the only city that requires increased lux. Although I have covered the use of entertainers in my instructions, their use will negate the joining of the Workers and delay the Knights Templar. Perhaps in these special circumstances you could clarify so this situation does not occur.

Following the completion of the Knights Templar I intend to start a Cathedral so that the lux can be lowered.

Thank You,

Furiey

President Ravensfire,

I notice that your instructions say to maintain 60% science, please would you consider allowing this rate to be lowered if we can still achieve Chivalry in the same number of turns.

I also wish to point out that your instructions regarding the use of the lux slider with respect to keeping the cities happy could be could be confusing with the stop conditions regarding if more than one citiy riots. I am particularly aware of these points as when the Workers are joined to The Augean Stables taking it to size 10 it will need additional lux to prevent the use of entertainers. At that time, The Augean Stables is likely to be the only city that requires increased lux. Although I have covered the use of entertainers in my instructions, their use will negate the joining of the Workers and delay the Knights Templar. Perhaps in these special circumstances you could clarify so this situation does not occur.

Following the completion of the Knights Templar I intend to start a Cathedral so that the lux can be lowered.

Thank You,

Furiey

Done!

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Thank You Mr President!

Proposed instructions for 460 AD

Workers
3 workers to Augean Stables
-- Once the workers finish their current task, 2 are to be assigned to Styx immediately. The remaining worker may complete one more task, then is also assigned to Styx.

5 workers to Civantonia.
-- The worker WNW of Civantonia on the road is reassigned to Styx immediately.

1 worker plus the captured German worker to Berlin.

2 workers are allocated to Priapos and Olympus (DP's judgement as to prioritization).

4 Workers are on their way to Styx - see the allocations above.
-- 1 should arrive in about 2 turns.
-- 2 should arrive in about 8 turns.
-- The last will not arrive for quite some time.

If any unit from a civ at war with us gets within 2 squares of an unescorted worker (3 if the unit is a fast one), the worker is de-allocated and must immediately move to a save location as determined by the DP.

Slider
The slider is to be set at 60% science, and the lowest practical luxury rate. This rate should ensure that all of our cities remain in good order without the use of entertainers. Should our trades happen, this should maintain a positive GPT.

We may go into negative gpt for this session, so long as we don't go more than -20 gpt. Please reduce the science rate to maintain a maximum loss of 20 gpt if that should happen.

As we approach learning a tech, decrease the tech slider so long as the time does change, to maximize our income.

Budget Priorities - ensure these happen first, or that money is available for them
--

Please maintain a cushion of 250 gold, do not rush anything that would take our gold below that unless it is culture or growth related.

All other requests for funds may be prioritized by the DP.

Game Stop conditions - please halt the chat should any of the following occur
-- Should barbarians threaten unescorted workers
-- Should any nation declare war upon us
-- Should our treasury be in danger of not supporting our infrastructure (ie the current treasury is less than the negative GPT).

Thanks,
-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

Mr President,

May I suggest that you assign one of the Workers to road the remaining Wines. This is outside the city limits for our cities so is unlikely to get included in any Governors instructions. Roading these wines before the expiry of or incense deal with Rome in 10 turns time will allow us to trade Wines to the Romans rather than Horses.

Mr President,

May I suggest that you assign one of the Workers to road the remaining Wines. This is outside the city limits for our cities so is unlikely to get included in any Governors instructions. Roading these wines before the expiry of or incense deal with Rome in 10 turns time will allow us to trade Wines to the Romans rather than Horses.

With the exception of possible forest tile chopping, Priapos is all set in terms of improvements. With two workers to share between Olympus and Priapos, and Olympus in a state where all their currently worked tiles are improved, I would suggest one of these workers be assigned to the job.

Mr President,

I have noticed that Olympus will have a food surplus at size 12. Rather than let their fine produce go to waste, I have suggested that workers could be trained each time the food box is full, to help with improving our other cities. Please ensure your instructions cover this possiblity, should Governor CivGeneral agree to the plan.

Thanks,
DaveShack, Governor of Styx

Mr President,

I realise that the Workers currently in The Augean Stables need to head off to Styx, 2 as soon as they finish roading, 1 as soon as it then finishes roading the hill by the city. There is also talk however that we may go to war with France. If we do this, roading the tile NNW of the Augean Stables will allow our Knights to attack Chartres in 1 move from the Augean Stables without crossing a river. This will be a big advantage as our troops will otherwise be exposed for a turn by the city or will have to attack across a river. Perhaps if other Workers become available one could be assigned for this task before we go to war. Of course once we do declare, The environs of Augean Stables will not be a safe place for our workforce and they will need to return to continue their efforts in a more central part of our empire or cower in one of our cities.

Thank you,

Furiey

Mr President, two cities require the appointment of goveroners. May I apply for a position?

Mr President, two cities require the appointment of goveroners. May I apply for a position?

C'mon - there's still a chance! The election isn't closed yet!

If, however, DaveShack does continue his lead, I will certainly be offering you the vacant Governorship of one of the cities. You took the effort to run for an office, and deserve to be recognized and rewarded for that effort before those that did not run for office.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fantikos

Governor Furiey,

Should our path lead us to war with France, I will certainly be rephrasing my worker plan, and giving support to the war effort. Your note about a quick route to France is most useful, and will certainly be done if that's our plan.

I hope and work for peace, but will help our military troops achieve success.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

C'mon - there's still a chance! The election isn't closed yet!

If, however, DaveShack does continue his lead, I will certainly be offering you the vacant Governorship of one of the cities. You took the effort to run for an office, and deserve to be recognized and rewarded for that effort before those that did not run for office.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fantikos

I unfortuanately stayed in last:blush:

Seeing as I have indeed lost the election for Governorship of Styx, I would like to apply for governorship of Civatonia.

irony of ironies, I will apply for priaptos