OK, I'm not home for one frellin' day, and when I read this forum, that day was the one day that I could read the last part of the walkthrought :'( Pls post it in zip (word or html, who cares)

If Sullla had 100GB traffic to his website during one week, then why would he switch to one with a 20GB a month limit:rolleyes: , Didn't he switch to get a higher bandwitdh.

I would like parts 5-6 of this also.

Sulla, great job.
I hope you are well compensated by Firaxis or 2K Games. Your walkthrough definitely persuaded me to buy the game!

If Sullla had been well-compensated for putting together this walkthrough, it wouldn't have the impact it does because it wouldn't be trustworthy. It's useful as a guide to the game, certainly, but it would be less useful if he had been paid to do it because I would have to put on my "marketing lies" filter.

Ahh, but score is based on population and territory. So the bigger you are....

But it's also based on culture. A small, peaceful civ that's been building wonders and expanding its religion instead of fighting would be disproportionately powerful in this voting, which IMO is exactly as it should be. In fact, instead of a flat cap, I'd just replace it with an entirely different system. Instead of arguing about whether Score or Population would be better, why not just make a new measuring stick? Define "Diplomacy Points" (DP) as some combination of population, wealth, territory, culture, good diplomatic relations, etc. and then distribute the votes accordingly. This should probably go in its own thread, over in the Customization forum, so I'll start one there.

Okay, it's here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=136706).

If you're going to cap the votes at some arbitrary level, I'd cap them at 33%. At 33%, you'd have no hope of ever reaching the 60% win without a good number of allies, AND no one civ could ever completely prevent a diplomatic victory from happening. Better yet, have the number of votes per DP be non-linear, so that instead of a hard cap at 33% or 50%, it's more of an asymptotic thing. Since it's all behind the scenes, the player wouldn't notice.

Come on...repost it already :-)

I'm dying to read what everyone is raving about!

I agree with Cyros2, zip it and post a torrent. There are probably enough people here to keep it active for at least a few weeks. After that it can be posted on a server again when most people have read it already.
I really want to read the last two parts...

I should've saved it when it was available yesterday. :(

Someone please check their caches and upload it.

Hey All. I've got 75gigs of transfer for the month, and I own www.civfour.com I was actually hoping to use the site name for something useful like this, or to setup a fansite (right now it's just redirecting to the official site) I'd be glad to host the walkthrough for as long as that bandwidth will provide (or host an archive), but I checked my caches and they've already been emptied. If anyone can give me a copy, I'd be glad to help out. I actually didn't finish reading it myself as I've been on travel.

The current plan is to have the Walkthrough back up again on some sites with unlimited bandwidth soon (hopefully tomorrow). Half of the Walkthrough will be hosted on a server run by the University of Wisconsin, and Thunderfall has offered to allow me to host the other half right on the CivFanatics servers. :) In any case, I'm working on it and hope to have things running again shortly (and this time, it should be on servers sturdy enough to handle the traffic!)

Sulla, thanks not only for an excellent walk through, but in dedication to seeing your work back up again. I wonder how many will save a copy this time around. I wish I had.

Hey All. I've got 75gigs of transfer for the month, and I own www.civfour.com I was actually hoping to use the site name for something useful like this, or to setup a fansite (right now it's just redirecting to the official site) I'd be glad to host the walkthrough for as long as that bandwidth will provide (or host an archive), but I checked my caches and they've already been emptied. If anyone can give me a copy, I'd be glad to help out. I actually didn't finish reading it myself as I've been on travel.

I checked out your site, and it looks awesome. Also, 75 Gigs of transfer for the month sounds like quite a lot. This was definitely a learning experience for me. My site recently went up from 14 gigs a month to 20, and I thought that was a lot! My apologies to the community for the site lasting all of about two hours before the traffic hosed it!

The current plan is to have the Walkthrough back up again on some sites with unlimited bandwidth soon (hopefully tomorrow). Half of the Walkthrough will be hosted on a server run by the University of Wisconsin, and Thunderfall has offered to allow me to host the other half right on the CivFanatics servers. :) In any case, I'm working on it and hope to have things running again shortly (and this time, it should be on servers sturdy enough to handle the traffic!)

Good to hear! I'll still compile it all into PDF's and see about getting them hosted somewhere permanently. There will be a total of seven PDF files of roughly 2 MB each.

Sullla,
You mentioned you are hosting the site on UW-madison servers. Are you affiliated with the university in any way? I'm posting this from my office in the Engineering building on campus, so I'm just curious.
Great job with the walkthrough, by the way, at least what I got to see of it this morning before it went down again.

i didnt get to see part 7 hopefully it will be up sooner rather than later

I have a dedicated server with 1000 gigs/mo bandwidth. I've had it for a couple of months, and so far I have used about 0.5% of my resources. I don't know how long I will have this server for (it's quite expensive compared to my 2gigs/mo usage), but while I figure all that out, I'll gladly offer some unused resources to Sulla or whoever for Civ-related sites. Shoot me a message and let's talk about it.

There will be a total of seven PDF files of roughly 2 MB each.
Hopefully it will also be in non-pdf format and multiple sections.
I downloaded the tech and gov't one but it was too big to deal with.
It took a long time to load each section as well.
Hopefully it will be faster on my civ4 computer.

i didnt get to see part 7 hopefully it will be up sooner rather than later

You can get the PDF of part 7 from my site:

http://pozor.ch/Civ4WalkthroughPart7.pdf

It has unlimited bandwidth with some kind of 'fair use' policy. My traffic already jumped from 1 MB per day to 500 MB per day!

Rince

edit: Sorry, wrong post

'Primitive' PDF versions of the HTML walkthrough are available here until the "nicer" PDF's are created by KingSponge:

http://www.guybailey.com/sullla

The walktroughsite dont work. Say that it changed place or name

'Primitive' PDF versions of the HTML walkthrough are available here until the "nicer" PDF's are created by KingSponge:

http://www.guybailey.com/sullla

If I can get the original web pages, Acrobat Pro 7 can do some nice size reduction and optimization. At this point it seems like there is great work being done on the hosting aspect. If we can reduce the size of the walkthrough without degrading quality, I think it would go a long way towards reducing the problem. Plus if it's all PDF'ed up, it could be thrown into the torrentsphere where it wouldn't die.

'Primitive' PDF versions of the HTML walkthrough are available here until the "nicer" PDF's are created by KingSponge:

http://www.guybailey.com/sullla

They look fine to me! :p

Thanks, Corwin. Although primitive it's still pretty good! It was good to read it with the pictures intact.

just registered to thanks Sulla for this great Walkthrough!It really looks like its a good game.
It would be nice to see other walkthroughs with other civs.
I´m still waiting for my copy so i´ve been playing civ3 to chill out a bit :).
Now we just aft to figure it out a way to convince firaxis to produce Alpha centauri II

The "primitiv"Pdfs as torrent
Hash:
95d4188bb41c37292d90ee33be6e82757b904a3e

bctp://|task|Sulla%60s%20Walkthrough|11446593|95d4188bb41 c37292d90ee33be6e82757b904a3e|


Please share

Thanks, SEBi79!!

I've heard that Azureus is one of the best Bit Torrent clients. It is available here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Any other recommendations for good Bit Torrent clients?

Thanks, SEBi79!!

I've heard that Azureus is one of the best Bit Torrent clients. It is available here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Any other recommendations for good Bit Torrent clients?


http://www.utorrent.com/

very small (<100kb)
very low memory usage and
very fast ;)

Very good walkthrough.

Enjoyed reading it until the last letter!

:goodjob:

'Primitive' PDF versions of the HTML walkthrough are available here until the "nicer" PDF's are created by KingSponge:

http://www.guybailey.com/sullla

The one billed as part 6 appears to be a second copy of part 5a.

The one billed as part 6 appears to be a second copy of part 5a.

Looks different to me - perhaps try the download again?

Thanks, SEBi79!!

I've heard that Azureus is one of the best Bit Torrent clients. It is available here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Any other recommendations for good Bit Torrent clients?

No, Azureus is a pile of dog poo! It uses up loads of resources, stalls and crashes all the time, and uses an interpreted language for the GUI. Hang on, so does Civ IV! What a coincidence. ;)

Try Bit Comet instead.

SEB, the bctp link is malformed. If you remove the space in the middle of the hash in the link it then works fine. Thanks for the upload.

The "primitiv"Pdfs as torrent
Hash:
95d4188bb41c37292d90ee33be6e82757b904a3e


bctp://|task|Sulla%60s%20Walkthrough|11446593|95d4188bb41 c37292d90ee33be6e82757b904a3e|

Plese share

I`m using BitComet, my port is 49153. Several Clients are unconnectable, pls forward the port

Hey All,
I've cleaned up the pages a bit, converted them all into a single PDF, and shrunk the size some (too many useful gfx to keep very small). I made up a page to host the file. Feel free to download it.

http://www.civfour.com

Enjoy.

Is there any way that someone can update the link to the walkthrough on http://www.civfanatics.com/links/? It still pints to the old page, which is disabled.

Hey All,
I've cleaned up the pages a bit, converted them all into a single PDF, and shrunk the size some (too many useful gfx to keep very small). I made up a page to host the file. Feel free to download it.

http://www.civfour.com

Enjoy.

Outstanding! I will now name my first-born child after you and Sulla. I give you, Sulla-RuggeR29 Russiophile!
Wait until he tries to bubble that in on the scantron tests.

Haha. Well thanks Russiophile, but Sulla deserves the credit. That tutorial took a hella lot of work, I'm sure. All I did was package it up and stick it on a webpage.

Oh, and I've never actually started a torrent seed before, but if anyone wants to start one, go right ahead.

Hey Rugger I tried to open the .pdf but I got "File is damaged and could not be repaired" .... I have the newest reader too.

Hey Rugger I tried to open the .pdf but I got "File is damaged and could not be repaired" .... I have the newest reader too.

It's not Rugger. I downloaded the file (using the Net Transport download manager) and have had no problems.

Hey Rugger I tried to open the .pdf but I got "File is damaged and could not be repaired" .... I have the newest reader too.

hmm.. I know sometimes, especially when a server takes a load, you can get broken pipes. I know my page alone has already taken up several hundred megs of transfer in the past few hours. Did you get all the file? It's ~8.5megs.

You should make a note for people to right-click and save instead of just opening it up in a browser window. Makes it alot easier to get the whole thing. Nice job putting it up by the way. :)

You should make a note for people to right-click and save instead of just opening it up in a browser window. Makes it alot easier to get the whole thing. Nice job putting it up by the way. :)

Thanks insydr. That's a really good idea. I tend to forget about that. I got so sick of PDF's pulling up slowly page by page that I disabled the browser plug in, so it only pulls the entire thing up with the reader :) And I gotta hand it to Adobe, I used to hate pulling up PDFs, but with the Acrobat Reader 7 they pull up a lot faster! I'll make a note.

Hey All,
I've cleaned up the pages a bit, converted them all into a single PDF, and shrunk the size some (too many useful gfx to keep very small). I made up a page to host the file. Feel free to download it.

http://www.civfour.com

Enjoy.


Wow, RuggeR29!

Thanks for hosting this! And thank you, Sulla, for putting it all together!

Oh, and I've never actually started a torrent seed before, but if anyone wants to start one, go right ahead.


Here`s the torrent:
Hash
57564eba46cd1902190b87636cfc9a84a01944a

bctp://|task|Sulla&5FCiv4%5FWalkthrough%2Epdf|8969266|
57564eba46cd1902190b87636cfc9a84a01944a|/

Blast. The site's still down, and I haven't seen parts 4 through 7. Any idea when it'll be back up, Sulla?

Marc

If you get a chance, I would like to test the performance of a new web hosting company that offers 6x the bandwidth of the previous site. I FTP'd Sullla's HTML files to this new site. The URL is:

http://www.civ4info.com/Sullla/

By the way, the site is case sensitive. So, that has to be a capital S. Sorry.

Umm, wow. Wow. So, corwin is like, the man. :)

He paid some of his own money to upgrade his hosting to a much more robust server, then moved ALL of the files over there himself. That saved me an enormous amount of time. And now... the Walkthrough is back up at a new location. Without me doing squat! :lol:

As I said before - corwin is the man. Someone buy him a drink. :beer:

Updating the first post and my sig with the correct links now. (Also, I plan to move about half of the pictures in the Walkthrough over to the CivFanatics server to cut down on the bandwidth usage. You guys reading it won't notice any difference, but it will spread the traffic around so that the should shouldn't crash again. :D)

Here corwin have a drink on me :beer: Great to see sulla's files back up. Thanks to you both!!

Just love your civ3 chronicles sulla me old chum, i'm learning so much from them :goodjob: ...

PP

Goddamn Sulla, you did it again! Splendid work!

Thanks for the great work!!

edit: sorry... everything is fine... i just understood my error!

Now that we have the walkthrough posted again, how about creating another :-)

I'd love to see another game of yours presented in the same way. Perhaps this time even as detailed as a little table tracking build order for each city and research order throughout the game.

aaaargh! just realized you havn't put back the civ3 chronicles yet! must have skimmed over it too quickly ,oh well you can still have the drink :)

I have moved the Civ4 stuff over to this new webhost. Moving the rest of the content over is going to take a little while. :)

I'd love to see another game of yours presented in the same way. Perhaps this time even as detailed as a little table tracking build order for each city and research order throughout the game.
Why don't you just ask him for his address and then go over and watch him play?

Alternatively, use this link:

http://www.civ4info.com.nyud.net:8090/Sullla/

This will pull a cached version of the site without using up the bandwidth.
For details on how it works: http://www.coralcdn.org/

I just browsed the walkthrough using this link so its in the cache in case the site goes down again.

If you guys want, I can host it on my site civ4central.com. I don't have to pay any bandwidth bill as I work for the company that hosts the server. I guess it pays to work for a colo / hosting provider and every employee gets to hosts as many boxes as he/she likes.

***sorry, posted on the wrong thread***

Why don't you just ask him for his address and then go over and watch him play?
I've got an even better idea. How about he just gets the game himself. :D

Great article, Sulla! Incredibally helpful and informative :)!

I do have a question though. You said that you can have an unlimited number of golden ages, yet it needs to be triggered by at first two different types of great people, then three, etc. Doesn't that mean that you are limited by the number of different types of great people?

Back on 27 Oct Siran, while while clarifying some discussion on the pyramid wonder, brought forward some points on government civics. The note on Hereditary Rule vs Representation has me a little confused.

* Representation Happiness is redundant with Hereditary Rule (HR can actually be better), so it's only the research -- and if you have less than a few specialists, you lose more in Civics Upkeep than you make in science!

- Sirian
I understand that early in the game the research bonus is largely wasted. I'm confused as to his statement about upkeep costs. In my current game I have 5 cities. Rather then settle more cities I want to develop these 5 core cities as much as possible. So in my case, as I understand it I'm better off with Representation.

Representation
- low up keep
- +3 happiness in 5 largest cities (I only have 5)
- +3 science per specialist (which we agree is of limited value in the early game)

HR
- medium up keep
- military units increase happiness

So my read, pertaining to my 5 cities game is that it will cost me less to have more happiness in my 5 cities by going the Representation route, then by going the HR route.

I realise that Siran's statement was in the general sense of the game, and that in my particular case it may not apply. But the Civpedia, and the manual are rather vague on all of the + and - of the civics, and when someone of Siran's experience questions the value of representation, it makes me wonder if I made a mistake with my own line of thinking.

:thumbsup:

This walkthrough is great. Wish I'd read it before I tried a game. This is much more useful than the Tutorial in game or the Manual...

Back on 27 Oct Siran, while while clarifying some discussion on the pyramid wonder, brought forward some points on government civics. The note on Hereditary Rule vs Representation has me a little confused.

I understand that early in the game the research bonus is largely wasted. I'm confused as to his statement about upkeep costs. In my current game I have 5 cities. Rather then settle more cities I want to develop these 5 core cities as much as possible. So in my case, as I understand it I'm better off with Representation.

Representation
- low up keep
- +3 happiness in 5 largest cities (I only have 5)
- +3 science per specialist (which we agree is of limited value in the early game)

HR
- medium up keep
- military units increase happiness

So my read, pertaining to my 5 cities game is that it will cost me less to have more happiness in my 5 cities by going the Representation route, then by going the HR route.

I realise that Siran's statement was in the general sense of the game, and that in my particular case it may not apply. But the Civpedia, and the manual are rather vague on all of the + and - of the civics, and when someone of Siran's experience questions the value of representation, it makes me wonder if I made a mistake with my own line of thinking.


Representation has Low civics cost? Hmm. Then I was wrong on that point. (I still have a lot of clutter in my head as far as what I remember from various stages of development vs what is in the final release. I will get a few of the little details wrong now and then. :) )

At Low maintenance (not High) it's a better deal. ... Ah, I see that Police State is now the High maintenance Govt Civic. Well, don't take my word for anything, anyway. Check it for yourself. You may not always agree with my perspective. :cool:

- Sirian

Hey, I remember when Representation had "High" upkeep cost. It, um, also had a completely different function at that time too. Sirian is suffering from another "horse archer withdraw" moment here (to reference another issue that no one here will understand). :)

Aligadogozaimasu

I can't get into your homepage since today's noon,what's the matter?I haven't finish reading it .

I can't get into your homepage since today's noon,what's the matter?I haven't finish reading it .

Hmm... I'm not having any problems getting to Sulla's homepage. But if you are, you can goto http://www.civfour.com and download the whole thing in PDF form.

Looks like I have some problems with these pages...I can't go to www.civfour.com neither...But thanks anyway,I've found another page now...

Hi people

Im new to Civ 4. Havent played the Civ series since No.1 came out on the Atari ST!!

Anyway I love the site, its gotta be the busiest forum ive ever been on!!

Ive not played the game yet as I have to do the tutorial. I layed it last night for 30mins or so but decided to go to bed, so I saved my progress hoping to pick it up again tonight and finish it but to my amazement, there isnt an option within the Tutorial section to Load Game??!!

I went to single player mode and found the Load Game option. I found my game from last night but when ity loaded up, the game restored to my save point but the tutorial was not part of it anymore!!

Can anyone tell me about the tutorial?? Can I save it or do I basically have to go thru it in 1 go??

Thanks

ps.. i posted a thread on this but thought it may get answered better in here

As far as I know, you have to go through it in one go. But it's not that long, it only shows you the basics but not a whole game. You can continue after the 'tutorial' part has ended and then save it and after wards reload the save. I must say that although I played the tutorial, I didn't continue the game very long after the tutorial part. It would be a very very easy game. At some point my only opponent had one size 3 city and I had 7 cities with Rome size 11 and I thought let's play a real game. But as you are relatively new to the series, it could be a good idea to continue the tutorial a bit after the 'tutorial' part of it has stopped.

Have fun and welcome to CFC! :band:

But as you are relatively new to the series, it could be a good idea to continue the tutorial a bit after the 'tutorial' part of it has stopped.
I second this as a good idea. If you're already "getting" many of the essential concepts, you'll be able to wipe out Gandhi and end the scenario soon enough.

And if not, it's advisable to continue playing in this small-scale, unthreatening environment until you do catch on a little more.

Enjoy...we've come a long way since Civ I (I played it on my monochrome Mac laptop...I'd have been jealous of you running it on the ST!).

-- Kevin

For the past few days I've been reading through the walkthrough and this thread. The walkthrough is really great but I also liked very much Sulla's and Sirian's answers to the great number of questions posted here.

My first impression from theCFC site is that of problems with graphics cards. This walkthrough shows it to be a great game that I'll buy as soon as I can. (Which unfortunately looks like it won't be until december in Brazil). Reading all these articles help me during the tormenting wait. :)

finally have been able to read the guide.....very good job...learned a few things too..Never thought about dedicating cities to Great person production before!

Sullla, thank you so much for taking the time to write such a detailed and helpful story of a Civ IV game. I love your write-ups, and this one was as interesting as your other Civ III write-ups. Please, keep up the excellent writing, as I've read everything Civ related at least twice!

My favorite is still RBCiv #18 (I believe it's #18):
The one where Greece and Egypt pull a Poland 1939 on your poor Babylonian empire, yet little backward Ghandi pulls off a victory. Simply an amazing game. I've read that one too many times to count.
Fun stuff! :cool:

Hi people

Im new to Civ 4. Havent played the Civ series since No.1 came out on the Atari ST!!



Civ 1 on Atari ST.... memories, memories. You remember the four floppies it came on? I always thought it looked better on the ST than on a average PC of those days... :) I still have them both, The atari ST and civ 1 for atari st....

Hi everyone, nice to see a few faces from the past too (RegentMan!)

A quick update: most of the pictures on the Walkthrough have had their hosting changed from my main site to here at CivFanatics, where Thunderfall has generously provided hosting. This shouldn't make any difference whatsoever in reading it (let me know if a picture isn't showing up properly), but what it WILL do is cut down on the bandwidth requirements for my site and HOPEFULLY prevent it from crashing. (Crossing fingers. :))

I also added a link to the Succession Game Sirian and I are playing on my website. For those finished with the Walkthrough and looking to read something else, you may want to check it out. We're having a blast, and it's been a wild game. :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133492

Hey Sulla. I play alot of multiplayer now (humans are alot more fun to play against then the AI). So I was wondering when you'd get around to showing some multiplayer games off. Being a total warmonger in multi I'm curious to see what people do to counter this, and I'd also like you to show some folks that guarding thier new cities w/ 1 archer/warrior doesn't cut it in multi. Hope you get around to that soon, especialy if you have a good 6 person FFA or team game, like to see how you "pros" do it.

I'll be writing up some MP games down the line, never fear. One of the groups I'm involved with is already planning a weekly game, and Realms Beyond will undoubtedly be organizing some of its own co-op games down the road too.

There are a lot of empty parts on my website at present to leave room for additional expansion in the upcoming months. :)

In the meantime, here's a short picture from a game that I was involved in last night:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/MP-1110-1.jpg

3 teams of 2 playing Always War on a Small Great Plains map. I was teamed with Cobra, playing against teams of Onan/Mo_D and Rob/AI (we only had 5 players, and Rob couldn't stay for too long, so he got stuck with the AI). I started in the southwest corner of the map, gambled that I would be fairly isolated (and was right, I've played this map too many times!) so I started with a worker build and ran min defense to get a jump on my growth curve. We researched Meditation first (I founded Buddhism), then went after the worker techs. Cobra snagged one of Rob's workers very early on, which jumped us ahead of the game. Here I'm in the process of building the Oracle - which one of the other players stole away from me with 0 turns remaining! (We tied for the wonder and he got it - hey, everything doesn't always work out for me either! :lol: ) I then went to the F9 screen to check to see who built the wonder - and Civ4 crashed on me. Couldn't find the game afterwards in the lobby so that was that. I think that there's a bug associated with the F9 wonders screen in MP, but not 100% certain of that.

Anyway, fun stuff. Rest assured I'll have more to say on this in the future up on the website. :D

We tied for the wonder and he got it

How exactly are ties worked out in MP games? I presume in SP it's the same as Civ3 - if you the human gets to 1 turn remaining (tech, Wonder, anything), then they're guaranteed there first. But with MP...?

Nice starting location in that pick. I see you beelined for Iron, usually what I do, but I'm a warmonger, I was curious to see if others do that too. That screen seems to show 3 irons in your imediat vicinity, does this mean someone else got shorted (it would suck to be w/o metal in a team game unless you were sitting in the back booming while your partner did all the fighting).

Say, Sullla, in your walkthrough you say "And on the "Dan Quayle" screen, I earned the rank of Augustus Caesar, not too bad. There are better ranks, of course, but this one's pretty good" which I don't quite understand. I thought Augustus Caesar was the highest rank?

Sullla, it's a fairly clear walkthrough but IMO, you should have played using a greater variety of unit in the modern age--tanks and artillery are just late-game equivalents of previous unit types. Would have liked to see you use some air units as well as spy units (I don't say sea units because from what I've heard, there's nothing to see as they have actually been further simplified from Civ3).

It also could have used a bit more on trade.

Great walkthrough, Sulla. Really helped me to understand the new aspects of Great People and Religion a lot faster than I would have 'got it' through playing. Not all aspects are covered, but I think it's more important to focus on a few aspects rather than muddle the picture.

Sullla, it's a fairly clear walkthrough but IMO, you should have played using a greater variety of unit in the modern age--tanks and artillery are just late-game equivalents of previous unit types. Would have liked to see you use some air units as well as spy units (I don't say sea units because from what I've heard, there's nothing to see as they have actually been further simplified from Civ3).It also could have used a bit more on trade.

Sulla's walkthrough is very useful to me. Civ4 is my first iteration of Sid Meier's Civilization, and I think those like me need to read this walkthrough. But industrial, modern age's walkthrough is not sufficient. I expect you to supplement it. I agree with Yoshi

Hi Guys,

When my settler is active, I can only see food info, no hammer and/or commerce info. Is there any option I have to turn on?

Thanks for you help.

Peter

Wow, we have some demanding fans here. I wasn't expecting to hear that the Walkthrough "is not sufficient" and that "I expect you to supplement it". It appears to be difficult to please everyone. :crazyeye:

Fortunately for you guys, Sirian and I have been playing out another game in the Succession Game forum here at CivFanatics that goes into more detail on some of these issues. Not a whole lot of trading, but a good deal of modern warfare. There is a link on the first page of this thread to it, another at the end of the Walkthrough, and I'll provide it again here just for convenience:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133492

Enjoy. :)

Sullla if it's any consolation the walkthrough has helped the most important part of any civ game, in the AA. Thanks! :thumbsup:

FWIW Cuban Isolationists is the icing on the cake.

Wow, we have some demanding fans here. I wasn't expecting to hear that the Walkthrough "is not sufficient" and that "I expect you to supplement it". It appears to be difficult to please everyone. :crazyeye:
As Mae West said, "Too much of a good thing...is wonderful."

Just because we're pleased--just because some of us are hard-pressed to find enough time to read everything you've done already--doesn't mean we don't want more!

(whip cracks) More walkthrough, mule!*

-- Kevin

* For the bewildered: the reference here is to a Comics Curmudgeon (http://joshreads.com/) catchphrase.

Wow, we have some demanding fans here. I wasn't expecting to hear that the Walkthrough "is not sufficient" and that "I expect you to supplement it". It appears to be difficult to please everyone. :crazyeye:

Fortunately for you guys, Sirian and I have been playing out another game in the Succession Game forum here at CivFanatics that goes into more detail on some of these issues. Not a whole lot of trading, but a good deal of modern warfare. There is a link on the first page of this thread to it, another at the end of the Walkthrough, and I'll provide it again here just for convenience:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133492

Enjoy. :)

I wouldn't take it to heart Sullla. I read that and thought it was odd too. Not everyone is from Maryland ;) Sometimes the subtle connotation of an English phrase can be lost in translation.

I think what should be taken from all this is that people from around the world appreciate your hard work, and would love to see more if you have the time. :goodjob:

If you go back a few pages in this thread, you can see a couple of folks who made the Walkthrough available as an Adobe Acrobat PDF. If you print that file out, it comes to more than 160 pages.

Honestly, my mind still boggles at someone taking the time to meticulously go to that much effort to create the Civ 4 Walkthrough.

In that walkthrough, Sullla took the time to show a gazillion different aspects of the game. What is even more amazing is the effort Sullla and Sirian are putting into documenting their RB Succession game. I particularly like it when the two of them disagree.

"Cut down the forest!!"

No. We need the forest so we can build a lumber mill.

But we won't have that technology for 1000 years!!

:)

If you go back a few pages in this thread, you can see a couple of folks who made the Walkthrough available as an Adobe Acrobat PDF. If you print that file out, it comes to more than 160 pages.

Honestly, my mind still boggles at someone taking the time to meticulously go to that much effort to create the Civ 4 Walkthrough.

In that walkthrough, Sullla took the time to show a gazillion different aspects of the game. What is even more amazing is the effort Sullla and Sirian are putting into documenting their RB Succession game. I particularly like it when the two of them disagree.

"Cut down the forest!!"

No. We need the forest so we can build a lumber mill.

But we won't have that technology for 1000 years!!

:)


Yup, I created a PDF I'm hosting on my site that has all 159 pages of goodness. This was after the site Sullla had hosting the html went down temporarily. Sometimes its nice to have the whole thing on your desktop as a reference, rather than reloading webpages.

it can be found at http://www.civfour.com

i say cut the trees and save some if ya can....balance, but desperate times call for desperate measures=)


hail sullla!

Great job! I see I have a loooong way to go before I reach your playing level. I now look at the game in a totally different way; I might even win some games now!:) Thx!!

Yup, I created a PDF I'm hosting on my site that has all 159 pages of goodness. This was after the site Sullla had hosting the html went down temporarily. Sometimes its nice to have the whole thing on your desktop as a reference, rather than reloading webpages.

it can be found at http://www.civfour.com

The pdf is brokes0r

The pdf is brokes0r

It works perfect for me though.:goodjob:

Great walkthrough, Sulla -- thanks for this!

I haven't been able to read the whole article yet, but I like what it has so far. I think it's a great way for people just getting started into the fourth version to get up to speed on the new features of the game.

This is the best item I've ever read on this site.
I thank you Sulla.
You made it look too easy.

I see the link to the Cuban walkthrough. Any others folks can recommend?

(spell edit)

Thread moved to the Civ4 Strategy Article forum, so more people can see it.

Hey Sulla, did I already mention that I think you've written an excellent piece? If not, you've surely written an excellent piece ;)

One thing I was wondering about though, is the stone/stonehenge start. Did you specifically look for this combination or is it pure luck? Thus far I've only found stone this close once, but when I could build my third city (at which point it might've gotten useful) I was already close to calender.

Hi Sulla,

Great walkthrough. Thanks!!!!

well i don't know if this is off topic but in the first great scientist pictuure the aqueduct goes into the mine!

Great Guide Sulla!:goodjob: I enjoyed reading it.

Thanks for posting that guide. Your walkthrough has been my bedtime reading for three days running. Well done!!

Thanks You!!! This walkthrough has been the best one I have read so far, very informative!!!:goodjob:

can't wait for some editorials, the civ3 ones were great!

Is the walkthough broken? None of the screenshots show up!

I realy do not want to go thru 33 pages of posts, so if some one can please answer me a quick question...Other than the 7 ( I think it was 7) original parts to the walkthrough, did Sulla add any more.

thanks

Is the walkthough broken? None of the screenshots show up!

Yeah, I had the same problem. It was working fine a few weeks ago and I go back and the screenshots won't load.

Very good walkthrogh Sullla. :goodjob:

Indeed, the screenshots of the walkthrough don't show up. (again?)

I can see the screenshots of the other articles/games he has on his civ IV webpage, but none of the walkthrough.

I am up to part six and want to finish it (had some time in between because of some time and hardware problems).

Please get them up Sullla and keep up the good work!! :goodjob:

EDIT: They were up again last night when I briefly looked to see if it was fixed, but they're down again when I just look now.

EDIT2: They are up again! Now I can finally read it till the end!

Hi

I've only bought Civ 4 recently and had a read of this walkthrough and just want to say a HUUUUGE thank you! There were so many aspects of the game I didnt really understand, like opening your borders to people to allow trade, and using missionaries to spread your religion in other countries - I've been trying to get a diplomatic victory for ages but never could because no-one liked me enough - but I'm fixing that now :)

I also didn't really understand the specialist part of the game but now I understand it completely and have my very first GP farm up and running :D

And I didnt realise sacrificing catapults and cannons was such a good idea with their collateral damage!

Thanks again the whole thing is brilliant, and it might mean i can move up from Warlord to Noble now :)

This guide seems great, but should be on one page to be in the Academy. This will fix that - but someone will have to insert pictures themselves (I just don't have the time or RAM).

Please help me! I need a simple explanation of how to Walkthrough Part 1 to Part 7. I can't get it to load. Thanks a bunch
Arnie

Sullla's site seems to be down. Nothing you can do about it

Please help me! I need a simple explanation of how to Walkthrough Part 1 to Part 7. I can't get it to load. Thanks a bunch
Arnie

I am having this same problem. It is the windows open but display 404 error.
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I just found Sistulituls beginners guide and it is quite helpful.
Reccomendation is to look at that instead of this broken guide.

It is just his site is down at the moment.

It's been down for like 2 weeks I suppose he's gone since he hasn't posted here or in Realms Beyond. I'm patient though, it's just i've never read it and i'm interested to read it.(And his epics).

It's been down for like 2 weeks I suppose he's gone since he hasn't posted here or in Realms Beyond. I'm patient though, it's just i've never read it and i'm interested to read it.(And his epics).

He's around (http://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost.php?p=19230&postcount=7), but my guess is busy with RL and not very active. Sirian is the same, which has taken a massive bite out of the RB community. If you want to read it, you can download a pdf version here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3336390&postcount=593), although I have never looked at it.

Darrell

I have a problem, I can't read any of the Walkthroughs or Introduction.

Is something wrong Sulla?

BTW, I am using Firefox 2.0

The Walkthrough (and my website as a whole) has been moved to a different location. You can now find my Civ4 website at:

http://www.garath.net/Sullla/civ4.html

Please feel free to update bookmarks/links/etc. I have also gone back and edited the initial post with updated information. :)

Hey Sullla, great walk-through. Thank you so much! I printed out every page of it, and put it in a folder and read it as if I was studying for a med school exam!

Thanks!!!

I am about to purchase Warlords....I hope that there is a similar walk through for that (i.e. describing the differences).

Your approach (of creating a walk-through instead of strategy guide-lines) was awesome especially for novices like myself.

I played one game (before reading your guide), and I ended up conquering 4 out of the 5 civs but by that time I was broke and people started rioting. I seriously hope that the next time I play I can move up a level (to Warlord) and not run into financial troubles.

I read through the walkthrough and have played a couple of games myself.
There is something that is escaping me...how does one actually do the 100% science throughout an entire game? How does one get income that would go towards maintaince costs (for cities, etc.) and not to science research?

(If it matters, I am playing Warlords.)

I read through the walkthrough and have played a couple of games myself.
There is something that is escaping me...how does one actually do the 100% science throughout an entire game? How does one get income that would go towards maintaince costs (for cities, etc.) and not to science research?

(If it matters, I am playing Warlords.)

You would have to build money making buildings (not commerce). Commerce is divided through the slider.
So for instance a shrine would do it, or specialists. But it's very hard to do it, and often not necessary. It's not the % that matters, it the absolute value that does.

PS. Better post such questions in a new thread instead of bumping such an old, although very good, thread.

Have fun

omg...your awsome! =D

Wow. How did you get to become a beta tester anyway? (Wouldn't everyone want to know?...)

Well, I think he was asked for it, not the opposite :)

"And lest you think that Spiritual/Philosophical is the best trait combo, you should see me play a game with a Financial civ where I go the cottage-spam route. Or take an Industrious civ for a spin and go nuts on wonders. Or take a Creative civ and dominate someone culturally." - SULLLA


Hey, Sullla, how about you go ahead and write up a couple walkthroughs on these other civs? I would love to see what you do with Catherine or Roosevelt!

Hey sulla! Try to summarize this walkthrough, put it in notepad, and pass it to GameFaqs. Just search gamefaqs at yahoo or goggle and create a profile there then, start pumping this! Many gamers will be grateful to you.

I cant get to it- Internet Explorer cannot open bah.

Hey, Sullla, how about you go ahead and write up a couple walkthroughs on these other civs? I would love to see what you do with Catherine or Roosevelt!

Look through the rest of his site - he's got a BUNCH of writeups with other leaders.

Thanks, It really helps:goodjob:

Thanks a lot! Make it on BtS too!!!

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great work!!!