http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4096/projectadvanced3yj.jpg

Hi! :D
There is a lot of new people here :) , so, my nick is CivArmy, I used to create leaderheads, units and other stuff to Civ3 and now I'll mod for Civ4. The game isn't in my hands yet, it takes some weeks to arrive in Brazil, but I've plan what I'll mod and maken some LH models some weeks/mounths ago. This will save a lof of time when I know the LHs and mod rules, then I can finish what I've started to create.
I joined some other players who wanna mod for Civ4 too and in a private forum and Msn chatting we decide what your first mod will be. Many of these other creators r posters of CFC or visit the boarders, your team is:

- Amirsan
- CivArmy
- EQandCivFanatic
- Gogf
- SuperBeaverInc
- Vbraun

Well, your mod doesn't have a name yet, so, we named it "Project Advanced". Untill your logo is a "project" yet :lol: This mod will basicly add new civis, units, wonders and make some changes in Civ4, everything that we check on the boarders that the players want. An example, we will add civis as Babylonians and Turks, civis that have many requests. We want to create a good mod for Civ4 and we intend launch it as soon as possible. We are working on it everyday. And we will post the upgrates of your mod in this thread.
I'd like to ask to the other team members post more about the mods, my function is LH creation, so, I'll use some posts to show the models that I created to turn them Civ4 3d animated LHs. Enjoy! :)

This is my first LH pack for Civ4, but just some of these LHs will be in the mod of Project Advanced: Abyssinians, Babylonians, Hebrews, Khamer, Turks and Vikings. So, welcome to the next level :)
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1597/civ4lh18sg.jpg

Civilization: Abyssinians
Title and leader: Negus Menelik II
Bonuses: Financial and Spiritual
Noun: Abyssinians
Adjective: Abyssinian
UU: Ethiopian Archer

Cities:
Addis Ababa
Aksum
Napata
Meroe
Djbout
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/3816/abyssinians015jt.jpg

Civilization: Babylonians
Title and leader: King Hammurabi
Bonuses: Creative and Industrious
Noun: Babylonians
Adjective: Babylonian
UU: Babylonian Bowman

Cities:
Babylon
Nineveh
Ashur
Ellipi
Akkad
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/9876/babylonians019oz.jpg

Civilization: Brazil
Title and leader: Imperador Pedro II
Bonuses: Expansive and Creative
Noun: Brazilians
Adjective: Brazilian
UU: Bandeirante

Cities:
Brasília
São Paulo
Rio de Janeiro
Belo Horizonte
Salvador
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5703/brazil013an.jpg

Civilization: Brazil
Title and leader: Presidente Vargas
Bonuses: Aggressive and Industrious
Noun: Brazilians
Adjective: Brazilian
UU: Cascavel (light armored vehicle)

Cities:
Brasília
São Paulo
Rio de Janeiro
Belo Horizonte
Salvador
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7600/brazil2014ap.jpg

Civilization: Canada
Title and leader: Gouverneur Champlain
Bonuses: Expansive and Organized
Noun: Canadians
Adjective: Canadian
UU: Mountie

Cities:
Ottawa
Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1854/canada010wh.jpg

Civilization: Cherokee
Title and leader: Outacite Ostenaco
Bonuses: Financial and Philosophical
Noun: Cherokee
Adjective: Cherokee
UU: Brave

Cities:
Tugaloo
Keetoowah
Ustanali
Tellico
Chota
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/5270/cherokee018wn.jpg

Civilization: Hebrews
Title and leader: King David
Bonuses: Financial and Spiritual
Noun: Hebrews
Adjective: Hebrew
UU: Macabee

Cities:
Jerusalem
Hebron
Beersheba
Bethel
Dan
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8696/hebrews016qz.jpg

Civilization: Khmer
Title and leader: King Jayavarman VII
Bonuses: Spiritual, Industrious
Noun: Khmer
Adjective:Khmer
UU: Phak'ak

Cities:
Angkor
Phnom Penh
Udong
Battambang
Kompong Svay
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/9460/khmer014dr.jpg

Civilization: Polynesians
Title and leader: King Tangaloa
Bonuses: Expansive and Industrious
Noun: Polynesians
Adjective: Polynesian
UU: ???

Cities:
Haraiki
Tikei
Pukapuka
Manihi
Hiva
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/8086/polynesians019vv.jpg

Civilization: Portugal
Title and leader: Príncipe Henrique
Bonuses: Expansive and Philosophical
Noun: Portuguese
Adjective: Portuguese
UU: Carrack

Cities:
Lisbon
Oporto
Guimarães
Lagos
Emerita
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/9153/portugal015xb.jpg

Civilization: Tupi
Title and leader: Cacique Cunhambebe
Bonuses: Expansive and Aggressive
Noun: Tupi
Adjective: Tupi
UU: Zarabataneiro

Cities:
Tupinambá
Yperoig
Guarani
Tapes
Carijós
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5861/tupi017id.jpg

Civilization: Turks
Title and leader: Sultan Selim I
Bonuses: Aggressive and Expansive
Noun: Turks
Adjective: Turskish
UU: Janissary

Cities:
Istanbul
Edrine
Bursa
Iznik
Uskudar
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/209/turks016br.jpg

Civilization: Vikings
Title and leader: King Knud
Bonuses: Expansive and Organized
Noun: Vikings
Adjective: Viking
UU: Berserk

Cities:
Trondheim
Bergen
Copenhagen
Reykjavik
Oslo
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7451/vikings019id.jpg

Civilization: Zulu
Title and leader: Chief Shaka
Bonuses: Aggressive and Expansive
Noun: Zulu
Adjective: Zulu
UU: Impi (African Spearman)

Cities:
Zimbabwe
Ulundi
Bapedi
Hlobane
Isandhlwana
TO BE CONTINUED...

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2126/zulu016jy.jpg

Note:

We're still recruiting more unit and wonder artists! If you can make building graphics that appear on the main map, units, or wonder movies, please contact us!

Now... I'm not a betting man, and I haven't installed the game yet to find out, but I would place money that the leaderheads int his game are not video files like in Civ3...

Now... I'm not a betting man, and I haven't installed the game yet to find out, but I would place money that the leaderheads int his game are not video files like in Civ3...

You don't think they're video files? Well, we do have the models...

You don't think they're video files? Well, we do have the models...

Yes, you have the models, but if they're not video files, those models aren't going to do you a lot of good.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Yes, you have the models, but if they're not video files, those models aren't going to do you a lot of good.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

I have these files in Poser extension, I could try to export them to other software to convert them to Civ4 LHs... or just convert them in videos after animate to add to the game (if the game uses the same Ci3 system for LHs). Well, I must get this game to check or someone who could help me :)

I like your stuff, but i do have a few comments.

Hebrews is more the racial name...much like Indonesians are genetically Malaysians, people would refer to them as Indonesians.

I think a much better thing to do, would say David of Israel

That is the name of our land isn't it? Ancient and Modern.

Whether we were called Israelites or not, doesn't matter...Israeli is the modern term. So yeah.

Anyways, for all people interested in helping to discuss how the Israel civ should be...go here. =)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132843

If i were to make leaderheads in my own civ iV game, here is how I would do it:

Take a screenshot of the map, and put it in buffer.

Overlay on top of that a movie file, much like the civ 3 flcs.

Faces look alot better in highpoly, and there really is no reason to have 3d models for the faces, since the camera and lighting will always be in the same view.

So I think your leaderheads will be OK. Units will not be able to use poser, I'd bet 20 to 1 odds on that, however.

It looks good CivArmy. I hope it all works out.

I think it'd be quite helpful to have someone with the game check the leaderhead files (if there are any), to see the format, and every single detail that may be helpful to CivArmy

@CivArmy: I have several suggestions for changes in some of your heads, but I'll post them later as it's too late here now. One of my suggestions, though, is to change the way Champlain looks (more details later ;) )

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133338

Thought i should mention this thread. It doesnt have anything to do specificly with leaderheads or anything-just a graphics card problem, but I thought mabey you could interpret something from the shot. Looks like its layered (as you can see the stuff that goes underneath :) Idk, it may not be of any help-I really dont know much about this stuff, but i figured i might as well mention it.

Good luck to all of you with this whole thing-I'm really looking forward to seeing it's progress :)

those look great, and I am so glad that you made a tupi one.

Wow, It certainly appears the face may be a 3d model with animated textures.

If so.... fairly complicated. Either that it's a hoax.

(I hope I can get a copy tomorrow... I am dying of curiosity. Before I play I plan to find every graphic and model file extension... then see if I can make a non-animated 3d model.

I like your stuff, but i do have a few comments.

Hebrews is more the racial name...much like Indonesians are genetically Malaysians, people would refer to them as Indonesians.

I think a much better thing to do, would say David of Israel

That is the name of our land isn't it? Ancient and Modern.

Whether we were called Israelites or not, doesn't matter...Israeli is the modern term. So yeah.

Anyways, for all people interested in helping to discuss how the Israel civ should be...go here. =)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132843

We are calling them Israel. That has always been our intention.

wow! already we have people making superb graphics for leaders etc.

We are calling them Israel. That has always been our intention.

Your comment sounds like something out of a conspiracy order....or a spy agency. Oo

Looking good. Although that Tupi guy looks even uglier in CivIV format than he did for CivIII!

I hope that it's possible to use these models in the requisite way. But presumably it should be a very quick matter now for someone with the game to examine it and work out what format LHs are.

Gosh, if I see that Egyptian prop on one more leaderhead's shoulders--CivIII or CivIV--I'm going to scream. But, at least in a couple of these the colors were different.

Anyway, good luck. I hope that all of your effort wasn't for naught. :)

This is such a fabulous mod already. Great job. Just in case you need it, I have the Missing Civs Database in my signature where you can find additional text info as most the civilizations you are adding have already been included. Please let me know if there's anything I could do. I'm not a great graphic artist, but I would consider myself a researcher and modder. :)

Yes, CivArmy is doing a great job with the leaderheads. We have been working on the mod for a little while already. Be sure to look here for updates! :)

About the format of the LH's, CivArmy made what you see now in a format which I believe can be changed to whatever Civ4 needs. We are currently looking through Civ4 now so we can adjust the graphics we have.

If anyone is interested in helping out in any way, just contact myself or any other team member through PM or even post here. We welcome anyone who has, or is planning on having any type of civ4 modding skills whether it be coding, unit making, anything.

Enjoy guys! :cool:

Did some checking, you have to unpack the FPK file first and then each leader has its own folder with a bunch of files. There are some KFM, DDS, NIF, KF and then a few others. Most of them are binaries and quite a few have "Gamebryo" in their header (format versions and such) so doing a search for that might give you some clues as to the makeup of the leaders.

But having seen them in game (and all the associated media files) leads me to believe that they are 3D models and have various animation configurations. I don't know if they have any quality scaling based on the graphic settings but I will tell you they are dirt slow however they are configured. My machine runs just fine but as soon as one of the Civs pops up it gets really sluggish (1-2 FPS sluggish).

Hmmm. Do you think that custom leaderheads have to be the same format as the existing leaderheads? I mean-I know its a crazy idea, but if the games as moddable as they say, could we mod a diffearant-formatted leaderhead in?

Did some checking, you have to unpack the FPK file first and then each leader has its own folder with a bunch of files. There are some KFM, DDS, NIF, KF and then a few others. Most of them are binaries and quite a few have "Gamebryo" in their header (format versions and such) so doing a search for that might give you some clues as to the makeup of the leaders.


kfm = key frame (master)?
dds = direct draw something... a texture file
Kf= keyframe.... an animation file
nif is the 3d model file

also, I think .tga files can be used for many things, but .dds was used for lower end computers.

I am a complete idiot. I know there are literally thousands of people with their own personal requests on these boards, but youy have to help me. I adore everything having to do with ancient egypt. It is fascinating to me. I also love Civ. I am an active duty marine, and despite what anyone may say...I will always play as the egyptians and the egyptians only. I'm sure you are now understanding where I am going with this. The lady is the most cartoony of the bunch. It's my only gripe about the game. Is it even possible, or can anyone spend time out of their busy schedule to help this poor mmarine who is in dire need of a Ramses Leaderhead with the appropriate graphics....I know that there are modders out there, but this is probably wayyy too complicated, but I know 2k and Fireaxis reads these things. Can someone help a brother out. I saw someone wrote something up so you can use diiferent leaderheads with different civs...I will be using that in the meantime. I doubt many will answer to this, and the few that do, will probably have their own requests, but give it some consideration smart people. It's just not right.....:( lol

Good suggestion usmcddv! Thats a great suggestion, and we will most definately consider it. Ramsees would make a great second leader for the Egyptians, or maybe a modern leader also? Like Anwar Sadat?

@Smirk, thanks for the info! We will relay this in our production forums and check it out. Thanks for the help. :)

Wow, CivArmy! Your leaderhead technique sure has come a long way! :eek: Very nicely done. I look forward to your continued work.

When can we expect an early version? It wouldn't matter if it's half or 1/3 of the project, anything coming out would be good as is. :) (I'm not pushing, lol)

When can we expect an early version? It wouldn't matter if it's half or 1/3 of the project, anything coming out would be good as is. :) (I'm not pushing, lol)

As soon as possible! Yes, really, as soon as possible, probably within a week or two, depends if we encounter any hurdles or problems. We are as eager as you to release this. :goodjob:

So yes, we are working hard, and have done alot of research, and planning, and are going to begin the process of coding and such (now that we have the game).

I am a complete idiot. I know there are literally thousands of people with their own personal requests on these boards, but youy have to help me. I adore everything having to do with ancient egypt. It is fascinating to me. I also love Civ. I am an active duty marine, and despite what anyone may say...I will always play as the egyptians and the egyptians only. I'm sure you are now understanding where I am going with this. The lady is the most cartoony of the bunch. It's my only gripe about the game. Is it even possible, or can anyone spend time out of their busy schedule to help this poor mmarine who is in dire need of a Ramses Leaderhead with the appropriate graphics....I know that there are modders out there, but this is probably wayyy too complicated, but I know 2k and Fireaxis reads these things. Can someone help a brother out. I saw someone wrote something up so you can use diiferent leaderheads with different civs...I will be using that in the meantime. I doubt many will answer to this, and the few that do, will probably have their own requests, but give it some consideration smart people. It's just not right.....:( lol


:lol: great post. I knwo how you feel, and I think many peopel have a whole bunch of little ways they like to play Civ. I'll agree, the curent Egyptian leaderhead is the worst of them all. Some like Geroge Washington are simply amazing, but the Egyptian leaderhead blows.

I would change the leader name of the Ottoman/Turk guy to someone like Suleyman or Mehmet II, Selim I was a terrible leader, and there are much better choices imo ;)

What program do you use to make your leader heads?

I have used 3, none of them cut it… one was even made for making heads… maybe it’s me.

kfm = key frame (master)?
dds = direct draw something... a texture file
Kf= keyframe.... an animation file
nif is the 3d model file

also, I think .tga files can be used for many things, but .dds was used for lower end computers.

So, these r the files that the creators must produce or edit. I did some search about *.nif, its looks like the main file of the LHs and it also looks like similar to *.pdf. So, if I can put artworks into a *.nif file the LHs will work, is it right?
I think the LH artworks of Civ2 were in *.pdf files, maybe they use a similar process.

For all the other posters: thanks for all the comments and requests :D , thanks so much fellows!!! :thanx: Right now I'll continue the search to try convert these LHs mines to LHs that works in Civ4 :)

Well... If you guys get around to it-you should really consider making a second Roman LH. I mean seriously-Romes like the best civ anyway! I cant belive they didnt have two to begin with. Mabey Augustus or something? I've always wanted to see a Roman LH in a Roman General's uniform (helmet and all). To me that would just help symbolize the might of rome for me... but then again mabey that wouldn't be very practicle considering the same animations are used for the whole game... still-roman armor=sweet LH. Just something to think about :)

Thanks for addressing the issue for me guys!! I'm excited someone might take up my cause...I'm patient I can wait. One thing though one of the traits has to be Spiritual...the other I leave to you guys, but Spiritual is a must have...(besides, no anarchy...yipeee) Thanks again....gods of modding..I will sacrifice 3 Chinese cities on your behalf. They aren't mine, they belong to the chinese, but I wasn't gonna do it originally. I'M JUST DOIN IT TO OFFER TRIBUTE TO YOU GUYS!!! LOL

So, these r the files that the creators must produce or edit. I did some search about *.nif, its looks like the main file of the LHs and it also looks like similar to *.pdf. So, if I can put artworks into a *.nif file the LHs will work, is it right?
I think the LH artworks of Civ2 were in *.pdf files, maybe they use a similar process.

For all the other posters: thanks for all the comments and requests , thanks so much fellows!!! Right now I'll continue the search to try convert these LHs mines to LHs that works in Civ4

.nifs are quite different and require specific keyframes to work. I mod for Freedom Force, which uses the same engine, so I know something about it. It requires specialized plugins to make .nifs. FF only has ones for 3ds Max, but rumor has it that civ4 might have the plug-ins for free programs, too. Keyframes are somewhat complicated to use, I hear, but they do contain the animation. It might be possible to use the ones from some other leaderheads, however. After all, a head bob or a smile is basically the same, no matter what the leader.

.nifs are quite different and require specific keyframes to work. I mod for Freedom Force, which uses the same engine, so I know something about it. It requires specialized plugins to make .nifs. FF only has ones for 3ds Max, but rumor has it that civ4 might have the plug-ins for free programs, too. Keyframes are somewhat complicated to use, I hear, but they do contain the animation. It might be possible to use the ones from some other leaderheads, however. After all, a head bob or a smile is basically the same, no matter what the leader.
/wave Catwhowalksbyhimself (I "know" Cat from the Freedom Force community)

I'm hoping that Firaxis uses Maya, because my buddy is a Civ nut like me AND he's got his BFA in Computer Animation AND his own personal Maya workstation :goodjob:

I would change the leader name of the Ottoman/Turk guy to someone like Suleyman or Mehmet II, Selim I was a terrible leader, and there are much better choices imo ;)

Suleyman is supposed to be an Ottoman leader, but CivArmy must have forgotten about him.

Selim I was forty-seven years old when he overthrew his father. He reigned as Sultan for just eight years, but in that short period, he doubled the size of the Ottoman dominion. The splendor of his conquests, the high abilities which he displayed in literature and in politics as well as in war and the imperious vigor of his volatile nature were offset by a sadistic and unrelenting cruelty to those who served him the best.

In his own time, it became a common curse upon a personal enemy to wish them: "Mayest thou be the Vizier of Sultan Selim.

Selim's Viziers seldom survived their promotion to that post for more than a few months. Many Viziers were known to carry their own last will and testament upon their person at all times, being fully aware that they were soon destined for the bowstring.

Selim's final dying wish was an order to execute his only son.
This wish was thwarted by his terrified advisors. With his final dying breath Selim is reputed to have asked if his order had been carried out. When assured that it had, he smiled and then expired.

Fortunately for the Ottoman Empire, Selim's wish had not been realized. The Son of Selim and the next Sultan was Suleyman. Suleyman was possibly the greatest of the Turkish sultans and is known to this day in the West as "Suleyman (Solomon) The Magnificent.

Selim's son reigned over the apex of the Ottoman empire, and was himself enslaved by love to a captured Russian Slave girl named Roxanne (Hurrem Sultan). Through murder and intrigue, she became the mother of the next Sultan, (Selim the Sot) Her inordinate dominance over Suleyman marked the beginning of the long decline of the Ottoman Empire, through a descending line of incapable rulers.

Selim's son reigned over the apex of the Ottoman empire, and was himself enslaved by love to a captured Russian Slave girl named Roxanne (Hurrem Sultan). Through murder and intrigue, she became the mother of the next Sultan, (Selim the Sot) Her inordinate dominance over Suleyman marked the beginning of the long decline of the Ottoman Empire, through a descending line of incapable rulers.

Ironic, then, that a slave from the Ottoman court went on to walk the corridors of power in Russia.

I want to congratulate Civ Army on his perserverance since Civ 3. You've done the hard part, finding a way to convert the leaderheads to Civ 4 will come in time.

If more forumites can keep giving their time to their specialist areas and coming up with quality then we are in a good position.

Big ups Civ Army!

I realise that my request may seem self centered, ut could you make an Australian Civ.

The Leader could be Bob Hawke (Once held the world record for drinking a yard glass of beer, and also former Prime Minister) or Edmund Barton (The first PM of Australia). The cities would be easy enough, the traits could be Financial and Organised, I'm not sure what the traits do because I haven't played the game yet. If anyone could suggest more appropriate traits that would be good. I realise AUstralia isn't a civ but in a fairly short period of time it has become a major player in various international organisations (maybe I'm bias) and it has one of the fastest gtowing economies in the world (well... it did, I'm not sure if it still does).

Also, for the Polynesian UU you could have a Maori Warrior, replaces normal warrior.

Just an idea.

I realise that my request may seem self centered, ut could you make an Australian Civ.

The Leader could be Bob Hawke (Once held the world record for drinking a yard glass of beer, and also former Prime Minister) or Edmund Barton (The first PM of Australia). The cities would be easy enough, the traits could be Financial and Organised, I'm not sure what the traits do because I haven't played the game yet. If anyone could suggest more appropriate traits that would be good. I realise AUstralia isn't a civ but in a fairly short period of time it has become a major player in various international organisations (maybe I'm bias) and it has one of the fastest gtowing economies in the world (well... it did, I'm not sure if it still does).

Also, for the Polynesian UU you could have a Maori Warrior, replaces normal warrior.

Just an idea.

Yes, we will definately add this Civ on our list. However we cannot grant that Australia will be added on the first mod version release, however it would definately come soon enough. :)

If it possible to have more than 2 leaders for a nation? Some could really use more of them(ie Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Andrew Jackson for US; King George III, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George for England; Nicholas II, Josef Stalin, Boris Yeltzin for Russia, etc.)

If it possible to have more than 2 leaders for a nation? Some could really use more of them(ie Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Andrew Jackson for US; King George III, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George for England; Nicholas II, Josef Stalin, Boris Yeltzin for Russia, etc.)

I am SURE it can be done, given the emphasis that Firaxis has put on being able to mod the game. It seems like a simple change, and shouldn't be too hard.

It seems that Civ 4 has a second leaderhead non used for Arabia ...

Play a christian Mahomet, should be fun ...

No there's not. It's just a button for unit switching for the Arab Great Prophet.

Yes, we will definately add this Civ on our list. However we cannot grant that Australia will be added on the first mod version release, however it would definately come soon enough. :)

Any thought on my suggestion??? (14 posts ago)

Any thought on my suggestion??? (14 posts ago)

Yes I saw it, I was going to reply to it, but I had to leave, then I forgot. :p

About another Roman LH, I am not sure, the new leaders would be so close together in time... I was thinking maybe Romulus, but we dont know much about him and whether he had such a great impact besides creating Rome itself. Augustus would be a good pick, then again, its so close to Julius Caesar.

But as for just having another one to chose from, I think its a good idea, so long if we can deferentiate their traits and preferables, etc.

I think Marcus Aurelius would be a good second faction leader for the Romans. Gaius Julius was an arrogant prick, so one of the few good Imperators would be a good choice to balance things. Maybe Constantine, but Marcus Aurelius would be the best choice. The man made contact with China ffs.

second possible roman leaders in list of my favouring:
Marcus Aurelius, he just screems for Philosphical... :)
Pius Antoninus, (or else Hadrian or Trajan)
Scipio Africanus, (or Marius)
and lastly Augustus (because we already Caesar).

mitsho

PS: I must say, these leaderheads are very superb. Excellent work, civarmy

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Vote for Traianus for Roman leader cause maximum of the Roman Empire

I'm posting to say thank you very much for all the suggestions, comments, ellogies and PMs to all u people :thanx: You fellows r helping your mod turn better and better, thanks!!!
For the suggestions of new leader people can post how many they want, maybe these suggestions won't appear in this mod, but they could be in other mods of the team, other mods of other players or simple new civilizations. I just ask time to create all them, maybe some weeks/mounths, since I've learnt how to convert these LHs for Civ4 and I need export a lot of artworks to the same game :D And there is some LHs that r in the mod and I didn't do yet, as the second Ottoman/Turkish leader :)

@team mod: let's create a good post with many infos about the team and the mod to edit the post number 01 (or others too, since the 15 first ones r mine's, I think) and let's do that since we have news :D we can do that in SCC or here, u know.

I like Scipio Africanus! Marcus is also a good pick.

I think those are the two it will come down to. I will run a poll in our development forum about the idea. Thanks for the suggestions guys! Keep them coming. :)

@team mod: let's create a good post with many infos about the team and the mod to edit the post number 01 (or others too, since the 15 first ones r mine's, I think) and let's do that since we have news :D we can do that in SCC or here, u know.

Alright, lets talk about this over at SCC. :)

The Leaderheads appear to be realtime 3D models.

Oh, a suggestion for the Polynesian UU: The Voyaging Canoe. Here's a pic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hawaiiancanoe.jpg
I think the second leader choice should be Kamehameha I if possible.

Nice Mod but Canada.......

Just asking but in what way are they considered a civilization ;/


Im probably alone here but to me they more of an extension of the British and French civilization.

For a second Roman leader, how about the greatest general of all, Gaius Marius. Caesar's uncle. Without him Caesar would be a nobody. Plus Marius was the great millitary reformer and was the greatest millitary force of the 1st century BC.

The thing there is that you have 2 leaders from the same Roman time period. I still say there should be a counter to the pompous ass that was Gaius Julius with one of the Great Emperors, my vote goes towards Marcus.

hi-jack.

Muad-Dib, love the name :p Dune rocks.

How about Constantine? Atleast there's about 400 years separating the two and you can't get much further apart than that (unless you go with Romulus).

Constantine the Great would be my pick as well for the Romans, after all he played a great part in the course of the empire. (Moving the capital to Constantinople, allowed people to believe in whatever religion they chose). I also have the same name but lack the title lol.. Maybe spiritual could be a trait for him.

Nice Mod but Canada.......

Just asking but in what way are they considered a civilization ;/


Im probably alone here but to me they more of an extension of the British and French civilization.

Canada isn't an official part of the mod, but instead just a side project of CivArmy. Only Babylon, Ottomans, Vikings, Khmer, Israel, and Ethiopia are the civs we are planning so far.

Depending how some things go and how quickly values are decided upon I will have the XML done.

What about adding dutch leaderheads? William of orange perhaps and Queen Wilhelmina?

What about adding dutch leaderheads? William of orange perhaps and Queen Wilhelmina?

Sorry, but we will not be including the Netherlands in this version of the mod.

Sorry, but we will not be including the Netherlands in this version of the mod.

why not, it's been far more important than most of the other stuff in :)

why not, it's been far more important than most of the other stuff in :)

Yes, you are completely right. Netherlands were by far one of the most important nations in Europe during the High Middle Ages and Discovery Age. They are a nation we will definately consider and will be sure to include them in future versions. For this upcoming version, however, we already have quite a few nations we are adding. But if we find that we have some time/resources to add a couple more, we will make sure Netherlands is the nation we will definately consider. :)

will Philippines be in this mod?

will Philippines be in this mod?

No they will not.

No they will not.

oof :( :sad:

i guess ill make it myself lol

I don't know if you were looking for comments and criticism on these leaderheads, but while they are all quite beautifully rendered there is something very flat and dead about their eyes. I'm sorry I can't give you any more advice on how to fix this, but I would look at the default leaders in Civ4 and pay close attention to their eyes. Perhaps it has something to do with the amount of light reflected; the the very center of their eyes, the pupils, just look blank and dark, like empty pits. This could be very disconcerting in-game -- at least for me I think it would be.

Also, the Cherokee leader's hairline seems to extend down onto his forhead where no hair should be, which looks very odd.

Other than that, superb work.:goodjob:

I don't know if you were looking for comments and criticism on these leaderheads, but while they are all quite beautifully rendered there is something very flat and dead about their eyes. I'm sorry I can't give you any more advice on how to fix this, but I would look at the default leaders in Civ4 and pay close attention to their eyes. Perhaps it has something to do with the amount of light reflected; the the very center of their eyes, the pupils, just look blank and dark, like empty pits. This could be very disconcerting in-game -- at least for me I think it would be.

Also, the Cherokee leader's hairline seems to extend down onto his forhead where no hair should be, which looks very odd.

Other than that, superb work.:goodjob:

Interesting, well not sure about the eyes, I would assume that this is how the model looks from the program, if you notice... all the LH's eyes are looking in the same exact direction. ;)

how about scotland?

No. Babylon, Vikings, Ethiopia, Israel, Khmer, and the Ottomans are the planned ones.

Sorry, this is a over-used question I guess, but will your LH's be animated and if not, are you planning on making them animated (is it possible?)

wow, very impressive.
btw is that the confucian statue behind Presidente Vargas?

wow, very impressive.
btw is that the confucian statue behind Presidente Vargas? That's Jesus de Rio.