View Full Version : PBEM: Neglected UK players - first multiplayer game


Enkidu Warrior
Nov 02, 2005, 06:30 AM
This is a thread to organise a PBEM for UK civvers commencing sometime on Friday 4th November (after work for me). This way we can play our first game online without hardened 1-week veterans spoiling things. Since we don't have the game yet I'm unsure as to the exact details we need to figure out but signing up participants would obviously be a start.

Back to work! I'll dip in later.

EDIT:

Here's the procedure:

1) Post when you have the game up and running and are ready to play. Include your chosen Civ and leader and your in-game nickname.

e.g. Enkidu Warrior is ready to go
In-game name: Oukan
Civ: Japan
Leader: Tokugawa

2) Wait for the next 3 or so players then swap e-mail addresses via PM or e-mailing via public profile.

3) Choose game settings. Password protect the game so nobody can cheat.

4) Start playing - I'd suggest manually e-mailing the save file to avoid reported problems with the in-game system. I'll have to do this since my Civ 4 comp is not connected to the net.

5) Post in this thread to let people know how it's going.

6) If you don't get in the first game then feel free to post that you are up and running and wait for other players to join you for a second game.

chuanster
Nov 02, 2005, 06:40 AM
Count me in mate. We def need to sort something out.

BeefBayford
Nov 02, 2005, 06:47 AM
I'm in :goodjob: never played PBEM on Civ3 so would be great to try it out with Civ4!

EDIT: BTW I wanna be Genghis :hammer:

ChrisMDP
Nov 02, 2005, 07:20 AM
I'm in. Happy to have a go, even though my Civ MP experience is next to nothing...

Ice
Nov 02, 2005, 07:49 AM
I'm in. I've never played a MP Civ game, so expect to be fed to the wolves.

Fraz
Nov 02, 2005, 07:51 AM
Count me in too. Been ages since I've played civ but I'm willing to give it a go.

mickeyj
Nov 02, 2005, 07:54 AM
I'm in!

here's hoping we receive them by friday ;)

BeefBayford
Nov 02, 2005, 07:59 AM
So we have 7 participants so far... shall we go with 8 players?

Dicanio3
Nov 02, 2005, 08:05 AM
make me number 8, never played multiplayer but want to have a go on Civ4 :)

Viper1812
Nov 02, 2005, 08:56 AM
Damn! I was too late, but count me in on the next one! ;)

Hentooth
Nov 02, 2005, 09:12 AM
Im up for a go later on too whenever theres space.

Im happy for an email game if anyones up for it when everything is loaded and sorted.

BTW, whats PBEM again?

Ice
Nov 02, 2005, 09:15 AM
Im up for a go later on too whenever theres space.
BTW, whats PBEM again?

I'm guessing it's "Play By E-Mail"

pdathert
Nov 02, 2005, 09:17 AM
Can I be a reserve?

BeefBayford
Nov 02, 2005, 09:19 AM
I think we should put in Viper, Hentooth and pdathert as reserves, its more than likely that at least one of us will be unable to get Civ4 working, but I really hope not.

chuanster
Nov 02, 2005, 10:32 AM
I think we should put in Viper, Hentooth and pdathert as reserves, its more than likely that at least one of us will be unable to get Civ4 working, but I really hope not.

Agreed. And I have a sneaky feeling that gonna be me!!!! Damn! I am feeling really bad now!!! :cry: Finger crossed....

colony
Nov 02, 2005, 11:20 AM
My copy of Civ4 is in the post right now, coming all the way from Jersey, to the dreary city of Manchester. Shame it wasn't released a week earlier, so I could've had study week to play it though.:crazyeye:

Anyway, can I put my name down as the 6th reserve or whatever it's up to now?:D

Hentooth
Nov 02, 2005, 02:00 PM
Merci.

I shall endevour to be on the bench ready!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 02, 2005, 02:24 PM
8 players on PBEM will be sloooooooowwwwww. Might I suggest we go with about 4 players on several games so that everyone who wants in can get a game going. Rather than setting things up now I suggest we just post on Friday/Saturday as soon as we are up and running then get going when about 4 people are ready. The next 4 can use the same thread to arrange the next game.

I've never played Civ multiplayer either and none of us will have played Civ IV so don't anyone worry about being annihilated - it's just about getting used to the game alongside other new players who have been kept waiting as long as you.

So as long as you all agree, procedure is:

1)Post when you have the game and are ready to play

2)Wait until there are around 4 players all ready

3)Figure out the technical details and get things underway!

4)Don't forget to post on how it went!

All things being well I should be up and running at 7pm on Friday. I look forward to meeting you in Civ IV.

I can't for the life of me decide which leader to go with.

Hentooth
Nov 02, 2005, 02:29 PM
8 players on PBEM will be sloooooooowwwwww. Might I suggest we go with about 4 players on several games so that everyone who wants in can get a game going. Rather than setting things up now I suggest we just post on Friday/Saturday as soon as we are up and running then get going when about 4 people are ready. The next 4 can use the same thread to arrange the next game.

I've never played Civ multiplayer either and none of us will have played Civ IV so don't anyone worry about being annihilated - it's just about getting used to the game alongside other new players who have been kept waiting as long as you.

So as long as you all agree, procedure is:

1)Post when you have the game and are ready to play

2)Wait until there are around 4 players all ready

3)Figure out the technical details and get things underway!

4)Don't forget to post on how it went!

All things being well I should be up and running at 7pm on Friday. I look forward to meeting you in Civ IV.

I can't for the life of me decide which leader to go with.


That sounds like a plan. I aim to be there ready and prepared!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 02, 2005, 02:49 PM
I've been reading up about PBEM on this forum and have gleaned some of the technical details. Whoever gets up and running first can be the host. The next 3 people need to e-mail the host with:
Nickname
Chosen civ and leader (first come first served - no reserving until you are ready to play!)
e-mail address
in-game password

There seems to be a problem with the in-game e-mail system so we'll have to manually e-mail the save when we are finished (I would have to do this anyway). The host should set up a game with the correct civs and with passwords activated, with agreed map settings (probably a small-ish random map at fast speed). They then e-mail the save along with the e-mail addresses of all players to the next person in line, and so on.

I'm sure we'll have our share of technical hitches, but then it can't be helped. I'd encourage everyone to read some of the other threads on this part of the forum for further info on PBEM.

chuanster
Nov 02, 2005, 03:30 PM
I've been reading up about PBEM on this forum and have gleaned some of the technical details. Whoever gets up and running first can be the host. The next 3 people need to e-mail the host with:
Nickname
Chosen civ and leader (first come first served - no reserving until you are ready to play!)
e-mail address
in-game password

There seems to be a problem with the in-game e-mail system so we'll have to manually e-mail the save when we are finished (I would have to do this anyway). The host should set up a game with the correct civs and with passwords activated, with agreed map settings (probably a small-ish random map at fast speed). They then e-mail the save along with the e-mail addresses of all players to the next person in line, and so on.

I'm sure we'll have our share of technical hitches, but then it can't be helped. I'd encourage everyone to read some of the other threads on this part of the forum for further info on PBEM.


Oh man, you are an absolute star! Only 2 days to go!

Scowler
Nov 02, 2005, 03:33 PM
Can I join in too, if there are any slots left? I've never tried Civ MP before...

Fraz
Nov 03, 2005, 02:54 AM
With regards to the in-game e-mail problems people are having it looks like civ does not work with any web based emails (i.e. hotmail) or any email service that requires you to use a username or password to send mail out.

As a suggestion when setting up the game just use you normal email address but for the STMP server use your isp's.

For example: my email address would be fraser@sfbooker.demon.co.uk but my smtp address would be smpt.wanadoo.co.uk as wanadoo supplies my broadband connection.

Apologies in advance if I have confused anyone. Just post here or send me a pm if you want anything cleared up

Ice
Nov 03, 2005, 04:20 AM
8 players on PBEM will be sloooooooowwwwww.

<snip>

I've never played Civ multiplayer either




If you've never played MP Civ how do you know 8 players will be slow for PBEM? I smell a rat ;)

chuanster
Nov 03, 2005, 12:03 PM
If you've never played MP Civ how do you know 8 players will be slow for PBEM? I smell a rat ;)


So, anyone got his/her copy yet???? I haven't... :(

Viper1812
Nov 03, 2005, 01:05 PM
Well i am getting my copy of Civ IV first thing tomorrow afternoon! :)

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 03, 2005, 01:16 PM
If you've never played MP Civ how do you know 8 players will be slow for PBEM? I smell a rat ;)
It just seems self-evident that taking one turn then waiting for the game to be e-mailed around 7 other people will be too slow a process for our first multiplayer game. Like I said, this is for discovering the game alongside other neglected UK players, not stomping to victory or playing an endless epic game.

I've updated my first post with the suggested ground rules. Feel free to suggest ammendments. I'll be up and running about 7pm tommorow - look forward to joining you all.

sacavsworld
Nov 03, 2005, 01:18 PM
i count me in for it

chuanster
Nov 03, 2005, 03:42 PM
It just seems self-evident that taking one turn then waiting for the game to be e-mailed around 7 other people will be too slow a process for our first multiplayer game. Like I said, this is for discovering the game alongside other neglected UK players, not stomping to victory or playing an endless epic game.

I've updated my first post with the suggested ground rules. Feel free to suggest ammendments. I'll be up and running about 7pm tommorow - look forward to joining you all.


Sounds like a plan. Is your profession an event organiser or something... You are 1 hell of an organised person... I am starting to profiling you as someone who play civ4 to the n-degrees of meticulous details... hmm.. tough opponent..... :eek:

English Monarch
Nov 03, 2005, 04:20 PM
I got mine today. it was released early in most stores other than Game. I'm really enjoying it, wierd game but great at same time.

As for this multiplayer, is there a way for me to be England in it starting on England? If so, I'm there! I'm great as an isolated isle.

niroe
Nov 04, 2005, 01:21 AM
Never done any PBEM gaming before, but i'm up for giving it a try... :crazyeye:

Fraz
Nov 04, 2005, 05:05 AM
Well that's me up and running (even after all the ati problems), won't be able to start anything till monday as I am away most weekends.

So if there is any space in one of the games on monday I'll join then.

chuanster
Nov 04, 2005, 05:11 AM
Can't wait till 5pm... Then I'll kow if I got it...

BeefBayford
Nov 04, 2005, 05:23 AM
BeefBayford is ready to go (albeit very slowly....damn memory leak!)
InGame Name: Beefy
CIV: Mongols
Leader: Genghis :hammer:

Scowler
Nov 04, 2005, 05:38 AM
Well, everything seems to be up and running and going more or less smoothly so far, so I guess I'm ready too. (No sign of the memory leak - yet - but the tooltips are very erratic in the foreign advisor and technology screens)

In Game Name: Scowler
Civ: India
Leader: Gandhi

What settings/difficulty are we going to be using?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 04, 2005, 06:06 AM
Sounds like a plan. Is your profession an event organiser or something... You are 1 hell of an organised person... I am starting to profiling you as someone who play civ4 to the n-degrees of meticulous details... hmm.. tough opponent..... :eek:
I'll just have to choose a civ with the organised trait then! Although I hear it's not the best :sad: . I've never played multiplayer and never played Civ in any competitive sense at all.

Glad to see we have some people ready to go. Wish I didn't have to work :mad: . My copy of Civ 4 is sat on my desk. I should have brought my laptop in and hidden it under the desk :cool: .

chuanster
Nov 04, 2005, 10:17 AM
I'll just have to choose a civ with the organised trait then! Although I hear it's not the best :sad: . I've never played multiplayer and never played Civ in any competitive sense at all.

Glad to see we have some people ready to go. Wish I didn't have to work :mad: . My copy of Civ 4 is sat on my desk. I should have brought my laptop in and hidden it under the desk :cool: .


Just got back from work found that i have a parcel to collect and the post collection is closed! So I not gonna get my civ4 until tommorrow morning... :(

I've never played Civ multiplayer as well and don't really know what to expect. But I know it will be GREAT!!!!!:goodjob:

Viper1812
Nov 05, 2005, 03:42 AM
I have just installed CivIV but everything seems to go very slowly! (seems to be some sort of memory leak). So I think I am ready to go! :)
In Game Name: Viper
Civ: Arabs
Leader: Saladin :nuke:
Difficulty: Noble?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 05, 2005, 07:42 AM
After considerable delay I am now ready to go.

In game name: Enkidu
Civ: Greece
Leader: Alexander

Since that makes 4 of us, can Scowler, BeefBayford and Viper1812 send their e-mail addresses to me via private message or by e-mailing me through my public profile.

If there are no objections, I'll create a game on a small continents map with all the other options on default as soon as you have all contacted me.

EDIT: Only one player has contacted me. Any others out there ready to play?
EDIT2: Make that 2. One more needed!
EDIT3: That's everyone. I'm setting up now.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 05, 2005, 11:54 AM
The game is up and running!
The first save has been sent. I look forward to letting you know how things are going. I hope those who didn't manage to join this game succeed in setting up their own. If you get stuck sorting it out just ask.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 06, 2005, 04:27 AM
We don't seem to have got very far. Did you get the save BeefBayford?

BeefBayford
Nov 06, 2005, 05:34 AM
Sorry guys I wasn't online yesterday or this morning, just about to check my emails...

BeefBayford
Nov 06, 2005, 05:53 AM
Played my turns and sent the save on... sorry again for being late!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 06, 2005, 06:59 AM
Don't worry about it. The beauty of PBEM is that you can take as long as you want. I just wanted to make sure we were up and running.

Scowler
Nov 06, 2005, 07:55 AM
Game now received, played and sent on!

One question: I noticed that my name appeared twice in the score list, once as the Indians and once as the Greeks :confused:

Is this some kind of bug as I assume the Greek leader should be Enkidu!

Viper1812
Nov 06, 2005, 11:50 AM
I have recieved the game, played and sent it on! :)
(After much confusion)
But how come Scowler's name appeared twice? Shouldn't it be Enkidu Warrior as Greeks? :confused:

BeefBayford
Nov 06, 2005, 01:04 PM
Funny because my name appeared twice aswell! Not sure it will affect the actual gameplay, maybe its a minor bug, hopefully fixed by the next patch.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 06, 2005, 02:11 PM
If Beefy and Scowler both saw their own names in place of mine then I'd definately say it was a minor bug (the name for the first player will be tagged as being equal to the name of the current player rather than being fixed like the others). If so then it won't really matter.

I didn't get the attachment in Viper's e-mail, hopefully we'll get that sorted shortly.

Viper1812
Nov 07, 2005, 09:14 AM
Hi, I sent you another E-mail Enkidu with the game attached. I hope all goes well ! :)

Fraz
Nov 07, 2005, 09:26 AM
Just going to quickly hijack the thread to see if anyone is looking to start a second game.

Ingame Name : Fraz
Civ: Random
Leader: Random

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 07, 2005, 11:29 AM
I'm very confused. I loaded my turn but instead I got Viper's second turn. I also saw Scowlers name twice. Not sure what to do. How could I possibly get Vipers second turn?

chuanster
Nov 07, 2005, 11:51 AM
Just going to quickly hijack the thread to see if anyone is looking to start a second game.

Ingame Name : Fraz
Civ: Random
Leader: Random

Hey Fraz,

I am more than interested to!

Ingame name: Chuanster
Civ: French
Leader: Louise XiV

Viper1812
Nov 07, 2005, 12:04 PM
I am very confused too! How could you get my second turn???? :confused:

BeefBayford
Nov 07, 2005, 12:38 PM
Bah well we could restart if you like, and if it happens again lets hope its a minor thing and will be addressed in the patch.

Scowler
Nov 07, 2005, 12:44 PM
There seem to be a number of threads, both here and at Apolyton, suggesting there is a bug involving player 1 in PBEM, particularly where diplomacy is concerned. I don't know whether this might have some significance here (I assume that you are set up as player 1, Enkidu?), but I'm starting to worry that this might cause problems later on. Since we've only played the first turn and nobody (presumably) stands to lose anything, I'm wondering if it might be better to either postpone the game until the patch is released, or start again, using one of the workarounds that bypasses player 1. Any thoughts?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 07, 2005, 02:35 PM
I'll start it again when I get home from work tomorrow between 6 and 7. If possible, we could then try to get through a few turns in quick succession, that is if you're all available then. If we still run into problems we can abandon it for now.

chuanster
Nov 08, 2005, 05:35 AM
I'll start it again when I get home from work tomorrow between 6 and 7. If possible, we could then try to get through a few turns in quick succession, that is if you're all available then. If we still run into problems we can abandon it for now.


Can I join the next game? :)

Scowler
Nov 08, 2005, 06:20 AM
Can I join the next game? :)

Fine by me, so long as everyone else agrees.

Can I also suggest that each player adds a password to his file (ALT+D)?

Viper1812
Nov 08, 2005, 09:02 AM
I think it is okay to let chuanster join the game! :) As long BeefBayford and Enkidu Warrior both agree with it.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 08, 2005, 11:49 AM
Chuanster can join - if I get a pm with e-mail address and leader choice very soon! :devil:

EDIT: I'll put Chuanster up last. We don't need an e-mail address until then.

BeefBayford
Nov 08, 2005, 12:18 PM
Fine by me if he joins :)

chuanster
Nov 08, 2005, 12:25 PM
Chuanster can join - if I get a pm with e-mail address and leader choice very soon! :devil:

EDIT: I'll put Chuanster up last. We don't need an e-mail address until then.

Hey Enkidu, I have just pm you! IS the game still on?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 08, 2005, 12:33 PM
First save sent. Chuanster is in. Everyone has a password identical to their in-game name. Change it using alt-D. I'll e-mail Viper with Chuansters e-mail address so the save can be passed on.

There didn't seem to be any problems at my end - hopefully it will work this time.

chuanster
Nov 08, 2005, 12:39 PM
Great, so I just have to wait for Viper's email and send it to you after my turn? Are we expecting today?

BeefBayford
Nov 08, 2005, 12:40 PM
I've played my turns but don't have Scowler's email address anymore :blush: could you email it to me Enkidu or PM me with it? Thanks. Oh and my name appeared twice again.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 08, 2005, 12:41 PM
That's right. Timing just depends on everybody taking their turn. Hopefully we'll get through a few turns tonight.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 08, 2005, 12:45 PM
I've played my turns but don't have Scowler's email address anymore :blush: could you email it to me Enkidu or PM me with it? Thanks.
Done.

Oh and my name appeared twice again
:mad: It was definitely fine at my end. As long as the turns go in the right order this time I don't really mind.

BeefBayford
Nov 08, 2005, 12:46 PM
Thanks Enkidu :) The game is now in the hands of Scowler.

Scowler
Nov 08, 2005, 01:28 PM
Still waiting for the email to arrive. Bloody BT... :mad:

Scowler
Nov 08, 2005, 01:46 PM
Ok, game now passed on to Viper.

chuanster
Nov 08, 2005, 02:53 PM
Still awaiting my first move.....

Viper1812
Nov 09, 2005, 08:42 AM
Sorry! I haven't checked my e-mails. Just having a look now.....

I have done my turn and sent it to Chaunster! And yet Scowlers name appeared twice again. [pissed]

Scowler
Nov 09, 2005, 10:04 AM
That's strange. Beefy and I both had our own names duplicated. I wonder why you didn't see twin snakes :confused:

chuanster
Nov 09, 2005, 12:05 PM
I have done my turn. Scrowler appears twice as well with no Enkidu. I have bee asked to email to Scrowler as well, which I think it should be Enkidu. I have therefore emailed the file to Enkidu. Hope that is right.

Viper1812
Nov 09, 2005, 01:11 PM
Yep, that is right. Enkidu's turn is after yours.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 09, 2005, 02:55 PM
Good news, it worked this time. I was called Scowler for reasons that I can't begin to imagine but I've changed my name back using alt-D so hopefully it will stay that way. I've e-mailed the next save to Beefy.

BeefBayford
Nov 09, 2005, 03:52 PM
Played and sent, Two Beefy's, no Enkidu's!

Scowler
Nov 10, 2005, 12:28 AM
This time I saw:

1 x Scowler
1 x Beefy (Mongol)
1 x BeefBayford (Greek)
0 x Enkido

The others were okay :crazyeye:

I don't know whether it makes any difference, but previously I was loading the saved game directly from Windows by double-clicking on it. For this turn, I went into Civ first and loaded it from there - could that be why my name wasn't duplicated this time? Oh, and in Civilization4.ini there has been an entry "GameName = Stephen" ever since our first attempt. Annoyingly it kept coming back, no matter how many times I returned it to the original setting, even after I deleted the PBEM folder and save and replaced the ini file. It has now finally changed to "GameName = UK PBEM".

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 10, 2005, 03:36 AM
Have other people been experiencing this problem? As long as we don't get any more crazy jumps in turns then I don't mind my name getting messed up. Also, has anyone had to enter a password? I got into my game without one, but then mine is the profile that keeps going haywire. I added it again using alt-D but I have a funny feeling I'll be BeefBayford come next turn. Bizarre :crazyeye:

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 10, 2005, 05:29 AM
:mad: Apparently, as well as having multiple-personality disorder, whoever gets the player 1 spot will be unable to trade with anyone.

There is a workaround, but it would require us to start again (again). I'll leave it up to the rest of you. I don't mind continuing - I'll just have to dedicate myself to WAR! :devil: :sniper: :ninja: :hammer: :whipped: :spank: :evil:

BeefBayford
Nov 10, 2005, 06:33 AM
I'm happy to start again, we've only played 2 turns so its not the end of the world.

Viper1812
Nov 10, 2005, 08:34 AM
I don't mind if we start again. :)
Can I also suggest to put player one as an A.I. or put player one as another human player and disband his settler as soon as the game starts. :evil:

Scowler
Nov 10, 2005, 09:48 AM
Starting with player 1 as AI is a good idea. The other possibility (assuming that it actually is imminent) is to wait for the patch - the reasoning being that, apart from potentially resolving the current issues, it is possible that any game we start now will become unstable or even unusable once we install the patch, forcing yet another restart (I think something like that happened with one of the Civ3 patches). Any views on this? I'm happy to go with whatever the majority chooses.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 10, 2005, 11:40 AM
New game created. First player was human but then deleted (I heard that using an AI civ didn't work). Passwords = in-game names as before. First save sent.

chuanster
Nov 10, 2005, 11:55 AM
I don't mind if we start again. :)
Can I also suggest to put player one as an A.I. or put player one as another human player and disband his settler as soon as the game starts. :evil:


Well, Letz hope it works this time! My previous starting position was crap anyway.

Viper1812
Nov 10, 2005, 12:51 PM
Well, Letz hope it works this time! My previous starting position was crap anyway.

Lucky you! I had a great starting position!

BeefBayford
Nov 10, 2005, 01:08 PM
Played and sent, this time Enkidu was there!

Scowler
Nov 10, 2005, 01:40 PM
No problems here either

Viper1812
Nov 10, 2005, 02:25 PM
I have played and sent on! Also no Problems so far! :clap:

I have also noticed we have done a few turns in rapid sucession! :)

chuanster
Nov 10, 2005, 03:00 PM
Just to confirm viper, you've sent it to me?

I havent receiving anything yet.

chuanster
Nov 10, 2005, 03:33 PM
I have now received your file but think you have sent my the wrong file. Coz when I load the game, it asked me a password for Viper!

chuanster
Nov 10, 2005, 04:12 PM
Think I have confirmed that you have sent me the wrong file.

I have tried putting 'Viper' as password, got through as Saladin. I then quickly clicked 'end turn' and a file is then created to send to myself. I then loaded it, I started exactly the same spot as the game before. I therefore suspect you have sent me an older file.

Btw, the file you sent me shows to scorwler and no enkidu.

Viper1812
Nov 11, 2005, 12:37 AM
Okay I will try to send you another on asap.

Viper1812
Nov 11, 2005, 08:54 AM
Okay, I sent another one. Sorry for the inconvenience! :(

chuanster
Nov 11, 2005, 12:01 PM
Okay, I sent another one. Sorry for the inconvenience! :(

Viper, thanks the file. Unfortunately you sent the wrong file again! This time the game is right, coz there are 6 players, but you have sent the file you received from Scrowler/Beefy to me!

The file you should be sending is in your Saves/PBEM/UK PBEM 3/ folder.

Please can you resend again.

Viper1812
Nov 11, 2005, 12:22 PM
I cannot believe that has just happened! D'oh! Okay I am sending another one (again) again.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 11, 2005, 01:06 PM
You'll have to start deleting the old saves (once you've made sure you've sent the right one!).

chuanster
Nov 11, 2005, 03:05 PM
Have you sent it? I have just checked my mail and haven't received anything yet!

Lazaruseifer
Nov 11, 2005, 03:39 PM
Hey, Any games going on here?

Im gaggin to wipe someone out...

chuanster
Nov 12, 2005, 12:53 PM
Thanks Viper. You got it right this time.

I have played and sent mine to Enkidu.

BeefBayford
Nov 13, 2005, 02:47 PM
Where are we with this game guys?!?!?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 14, 2005, 06:32 AM
I believe the last I saw of it was on Friday - did you get the save Beefy?

BeefBayford
Nov 14, 2005, 06:36 AM
Yeah I played and sent, i think it's in chuanster's hands.

Viper1812
Nov 14, 2005, 08:44 AM
i think it's in chuanster's hands.
Nope, I haven't recieved the save yet!

Scowler
Nov 14, 2005, 09:00 AM
It's supposed to come to me after Beefy, but I haven't received it!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 15, 2005, 06:09 AM
Come on people, sort it out. Has the save made its way from Beefy to Scowler yet? We can't overcome technical difficulties only to have the game die on us. Is there a specific time period over the weekend that people can put aside to blast through a decent number of turns? Otherwise we'll never get anywhere.

Viper1812
Nov 15, 2005, 12:13 PM
Is there a specific time period over the weekend that people can put aside to blast through a decent number of turns?

6:00 - 7:00 Friday and Saturday would be ideal for me, but i don't know about you guys.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 15, 2005, 12:42 PM
I can do saturday 6-7, and friday to a lesser extent.

BeefBayford
Nov 15, 2005, 01:56 PM
Just sent the save on again, could've sworn I'd sent it before... Neither of those time slots suit me to be honest, most weekday evenings are best for me.

Scowler
Nov 15, 2005, 06:15 PM
I've received the saved game. Unfortunately, it is the wrong one. Beefy, you sent your original 4000BC save by mistake, so could you please send the one from turn 2 instead.

BeefBayford
Nov 16, 2005, 02:50 AM
In that case I haven't received the 2nd turn save from Enkidu. It would be in the UK PBEM 3 folder if I had but only the 4000BC save is in there, could you please send me the save again Enkidu?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 16, 2005, 06:49 AM
I'll send it as soon as I get home from work.

chuanster
Nov 16, 2005, 12:19 PM
Hey guys, just got back from Italy (for work) and can't believe I haven't receive the game yet!!! Come on guys, we have to make sure we sent the right one! Must admit it is quite easy to send the wrong one as all of them have very similar names. WE just have to be careful and make sure we have deleted the old one. The correct file is always in your My Document in the form of:

C:\Documents and Settings\Chuanster\My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Saves\pbem\UK PBEM 3\

and the filename, automatically created by Civ4 should be in the form of:

Chuanster_to_Enkidu Warrior_BC-3950.Civ4SavedGame

Name of the sender and recipient and more importantly the year should be in the file name and hence if we are careful, we shouldn't get it wrong!

Come on guys! LEtz get this going!

P.S. Don't think I am free this Friday and not exactly convenient this Saturday. But if everyone else is free, will make sure I'll be in front of my computer 6-7 this Saturday. Majority rules!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 18, 2005, 11:51 AM
It's been a week since I saw the save. Have you played your turn BeefBayford? Is the game dead? :(

chuanster
Nov 19, 2005, 09:32 AM
Hello? What's the status of this game???

Scowler
Nov 19, 2005, 12:24 PM
Well, I haven't received the correct game save yet so I assume it is still with BeefBayford. Perhaps he could post here to confirm that he is still interested in playing...

Viper1812
Nov 19, 2005, 12:33 PM
Is there a specific time period over the weekend that people can put aside to blast through a decent number of turns? Otherwise we'll never get anywhere.

I thought that we were suppossed to do a couple of turns today at 6:00 - 7:00. Now it is 7:33 and we haven't even done one turn yet! [pissed]

BeefBayford
Nov 19, 2005, 12:35 PM
I'll send it as soon as I get home from work.

...Well I haven't received it...

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 20, 2005, 03:13 AM
I definately sent it! Sending it again now...

BeefBayford
Nov 21, 2005, 11:25 AM
I definately sent it! Sending it again now...

Again not received... did you send it to andrewbayford@hotmail.com ?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 21, 2005, 11:39 AM
I sent it to the same address I always have which is indeed the one you posted. Here's the save.

Viper1812
Nov 22, 2005, 12:34 PM
Where are we with the game guys? :confused:
Is the game dead? :(

chuanster
Nov 22, 2005, 01:48 PM
Where are we with the game guys? :confused:
Is the game dead? :(

Letz hope the game is not dead...

I think it is with beefy?

Viper1812
Nov 25, 2005, 08:28 AM
Can Beefy and Scolwer post to see if they are still interested with the game?

Scowler
Nov 25, 2005, 02:24 PM
I'm still willing to continue, but I haven't heard anything either so I'm not holding out much hope.

BeefBayford
Nov 27, 2005, 03:47 AM
Really sorry guys I'm gonna have to drop out of this. Haven't had enough time to even check these boards lately let alone to play Civ so I'll have to leave it. Apologies.

Scowler
Nov 27, 2005, 06:21 AM
Enkidu Warrior, chuanster, and Viper: are you interested in starting a fresh game with just the four of us?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 27, 2005, 06:34 AM
Enkidu Warrior, chuanster, and Viper: are you interested in starting a fresh game with just the four of us?
Yes, I really want to get at least one game up and running beyond the first few turns, and you guys have certainly demonstrated the necessary perseverance and interest.

Just post your Civ and leader choice (the rest can be changed in-game via alt-D). Also, make sure you're patched up to 1.09 since that fixes the big PBEM bug.

Lets hope we're successful this time!

I'll go for Qin Shi Huang this time.

Viper1812
Nov 27, 2005, 06:57 AM
I'll go for Qin Shi Huang this time.
Damn! I was going to go him! It looks like I'll have to go Elizabeth of England then.

Scowler
Nov 27, 2005, 07:56 AM
I'll go for Louis XIV of France, please, as I haven't tried him yet.

chuanster
Nov 27, 2005, 09:05 AM
I'll be Catherine then!!!

Viper1812
Nov 27, 2005, 10:08 AM
When will we be starting the game? Anytime soon?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 27, 2005, 11:47 AM
I'll start it about 8.00pm unless someone beats me to it.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 27, 2005, 01:36 PM
Game created, first e-mail sent. I've also e-mailed everyone with all the e-mail addresses just in case.

Viper1812
Nov 27, 2005, 01:37 PM
Will our turn order stay the same?
Edit: I should read shouldn't I

Viper1812
Nov 27, 2005, 02:05 PM
Okay game sent to Chaunster. :)

Scowler
Nov 27, 2005, 02:32 PM
Is there any way to change the turn order? Since I'm also after chuanster in our other game things could get very confusing...

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 27, 2005, 03:29 PM
Is there any way to change the turn order? Since I'm also after chuanster in our other game things could get very confusing...
I don't think so. You'll be able to tell though since the game automatically puts the save in the folder called UK PBEM 4. I'm sorry, I just put them in the order I remembered them.

chuanster
Nov 27, 2005, 03:35 PM
Is there any way to change the turn order? Since I'm also after chuanster in our other game things could get very confusing...


As long as you dont get confused with the diplomacy status of the 2 games...

chuanster
Nov 27, 2005, 03:57 PM
Game played and sent to Scowler.

Scowler
Nov 28, 2005, 02:03 AM
As long as you dont get confused with the diplomacy status of the 2 games...

I'll try not to declare war on you by accident! :)

Both games now sent... hopefully to the correct addresses :smoke:

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 28, 2005, 08:31 AM
I got the save back in barely 12 hours - I'm impressed :) . If only my boss allowed me to play Civ at work :( . I'll send it on at about 6.30pm when I get back home.

chuanster
Nov 28, 2005, 10:21 AM
I got the save back in barely 12 hours - I'm impressed :) . If only my boss allowed me to play Civ at work :( . I'll send it on at about 6.30pm when I get back home.


You can tell we are keen, can't you? :goodjob:

Viper1812
Nov 28, 2005, 11:34 AM
I got the save back in barely 12 hours - I'm impressed :) .

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Viper1812
Nov 28, 2005, 12:08 PM
Now, the boring turns where the only action is to move your warrior around! Game sent to Chaunster.

chuanster
Nov 29, 2005, 01:51 AM
Played my turn and sent to Scowler.

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 04:28 AM
Played my turn and sent to Scowler.

Unfortunately, it still hasn't arrived (I also checked the bulk/spam folder, but nothing there either) :(

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 29, 2005, 05:16 AM
Unfortunately, it still hasn't arrived (I also checked the bulk/spam folder, but nothing there either) :(
Funny that, because you've managed to send the save file on to me! :crazyeye:

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 05:48 AM
Funny that, because you've managed to send the save file on to me! :crazyeye:

What the....? :crazyeye:

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 05:52 AM
Just checked my files, and the last save I sent to you was BC3900. So I'm waiting for Chuanster_to_Scowler_BC3900 (as I am at the end of the turn order). I'm assuming from Chuanster's post that this is the one that has been sent, and which I am missing.

chuanster
Nov 29, 2005, 06:10 AM
Just checked my files, and the last save I sent to you was BC3900. So I'm waiting for Chuanster_to_Scowler_BC3900 (as I am at the end of the turn order). I'm assuming from Chuanster's post that this is the one that has been sent, and which I am missing.

????

The one I sent you was Chuanster_to_Scrowler_BC3950. The last one I received frm Viper was Viper_to_Chuasnter_BC3950.

We haven't played 3 turns yet, have we???

When I emailed you the file last night, it seemed to be a bit of a glitch with hotmail then. Will email you again tonight. Please confirm if you have received it, ok?

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 29, 2005, 06:12 AM
Just checked my files, and the last save I sent to you was BC3900. So I'm waiting for Chuanster_to_Scowler_BC3900 (as I am at the end of the turn order). I'm assuming from Chuanster's post that this is the one that has been sent, and which I am missing.
Nope, 3900 is still with me. You sent it at nearly midnight - that's well past my bedtime! :mischief: Chuanster is just confusing you.

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 29, 2005, 06:14 AM
We haven't played 3 turns yet, have we???
No, I'll be taking my third turn when I get home from work. Don't worry, the save is safely with me!

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 06:15 AM
????

The one I sent you was Chuanster_to_Scrowler_BC3950. The last one I received frm Viper was Viper_to_Chuasnter_BC3950.

We haven't played 3 turns yet, have we???

When I emailed you the file last night, it seemed to be a bit of a glitch with hotmail then. Will email you again tonight. Please confirm if you have received it, ok?

In that case, everything is as it should be. I have that save from you (BTW, the date changes from 3950 to 3900 when I save because I am at the end of the turn). I thought from the date on your post - today - that the game had come back to you and we were a turn further on. My mistake!

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 06:17 AM
Nope, 3900 is still with me. You sent it at nearly midnight - that's well past my bedtime! :mischief: Chuanster is just confusing you.

Oops! I'll try to send it earlier in future. Then you can enjoy it with your milk and horlicks! :mischief: (Bet I don't get open borders from Enkidu Warrior now...)

Viper1812
Nov 29, 2005, 06:21 AM
In that case, everything is as it should be. I have that save from you (BTW, the date changes from 3950 to 3900 when I save because I am at the end of the turn). I thought from the date on your post - today - that the game had come back to you and we were a turn further on. My mistake!
Thats good because I was getting quite confused! :crazyeye:

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 29, 2005, 08:46 AM
Oops! I'll try to send it earlier in future. Then you can enjoy it with your milk and horlicks! :mischief: (Bet I don't get open borders from Enkidu Warrior now...)
-1 You sent the save while I was asleep.
-3 You mock us!

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 09:38 AM
-1 You sent the save while I was asleep.
-3 You mock us!

BUT:

+4 We care for our brothers and sisters of the faith (Church of Civ4)

:p

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 29, 2005, 02:07 PM
Sorry for the delay - blame BT - my internet connection was down when I got home. Playing and sending now.

chuanster
Nov 29, 2005, 02:18 PM
What is going here????

And to further confuse you, Scowler, I have resend the previous save file Chuanster_to_Scrowler_BC3950 to you!!!

I didn't do it purposely. I emailed you before I come to this forum....

Just to confirm, is everything back to normal now????

Scowler
Nov 29, 2005, 03:38 PM
I'll ignore BC3950 and wait for the new save. Thankfully things aren't too bad at the moment, but it will be very confusing if this game catches up with the other one and you end up having to send two separate saves with exactly the same filename!

Enkidu Warrior
Nov 30, 2005, 06:04 AM
There is of course a simple and elegant solution to your confusion - just press alt-D and give yourself a different name in one of the games.

Viper1812
Nov 30, 2005, 08:34 AM
Hi, I have done my turn and sent it on to Chaunster!

chuanster
Nov 30, 2005, 11:47 AM
Hi, I have done my turn and sent it on to Chaunster!


Viper, think you may have did it again... You sent me the wrong file!!! The one you sent is actually your turn rather than mine. Please resend.

RED1
Nov 30, 2005, 12:58 PM
just dont mix up our game guys!

Viper1812
Dec 01, 2005, 08:30 AM
Viper, think you may have did it again... You sent me the wrong file!!!
I feel that I am getting a reputation about sending the wrong save!!!! ;)
Okay file resent!

chuanster
Dec 01, 2005, 11:26 AM
I feel that I am getting a reputation about sending the wrong save!!!! ;)
Okay file resent!

Unfortunately this is a wrong one again.... I was asked to input password for Viper when I load the game.

Please resend. Suggest you try open the save file before sending. I have set a password, hence you should see a dialogue box asking for my password.

-4 Save file missend on multiple occasions. :)

Viper1812
Dec 01, 2005, 12:07 PM
Unfortunately this is a wrong one again.... I was asked to input password for Viper when I load the game.

Please resend. Suggest you try open the save file before sending. I have set a password, hence you should see a dialogue box asking for my password.

-4 Save file missend on multiple occasions. :)

I have resent. I checked it was the right one by opening the save file and seeing the box asing for your password.

And to your last sentence "We are awaiting your attack!" ;)

P.S Sorry for the delay I have caused.

chuanster
Dec 01, 2005, 12:56 PM
Game played and save file is on his way to Scowler.

I have resent. I checked it was the right one by opening the save file and seeing the box asing for your password.

And to your last sentence "We are awaiting your attack!" ;)

P.S Sorry for the delay I have caused.

No worries for the delay. It supposed to be a easy pace game anyway...

:eek: "We are awaiting your attack!" :eek:

You have been warned....:D

Viper1812
Dec 02, 2005, 08:42 AM
Game played and sent to Chaunster.

chuanster
Dec 02, 2005, 10:45 AM
Game played and sent to Scowler.

I have noticed both Scowler and Endiku Warrior have changed their name. Purposely done I supposed to avoid confusions???

Enkidu Warrior
Dec 02, 2005, 03:24 PM
I have noticed both Scowler and Endiku Warrior have changed their name. Purposely done I supposed to avoid confusions???
Not on my part, I'm just playing the role. No sense being a mythical Sumerian warrior when I'm supposed to be China's first emperor. I'll also be showing zero tolerance of assasins and will be particularly enjoying my unnaturally long life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang

You've got it easy, Viper and Petacelli will have great fun with me playing the role of Tokugawa Ieyasu in the other game. Open borders? No thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokugawa_Ieyasu

Viper1812
Dec 03, 2005, 03:36 AM
Game sent to Chaunster.
:woohoo:
P.S I like the smilie!

chuanster
Dec 03, 2005, 12:53 PM
Hey Viper, I think you have forgotten to attacht the file in ur email!

Please resend!

chuanster
Dec 05, 2005, 02:32 PM
Game played and sent to scowler!

chuanster
Dec 09, 2005, 10:41 AM
Noone seem to add anything to this forum recently.. Just a message to push the threat up the list...

Viper1812
Dec 09, 2005, 01:02 PM
Oh, I forgot to post that I have sent the file onto Chaunster.

Enkidu Warrior
Dec 13, 2005, 02:45 AM
Who's got the save file? We're up to 3650BC. I sent the save on Saturday.

Also, just so that you know, I won't be available to play on Wednesday or Thursday this week.

chuanster
Dec 13, 2005, 05:50 AM
Who's got the save file? We're up to 3650BC. I sent the save on Saturday.

Also, just so that you know, I won't be available to play on Wednesday or Thursday this week.

With Overlord(Viper) I pressumed. The last one I played was 3700BC, 2 days ago.

Enkidu Warrior
Dec 22, 2005, 05:36 AM
Another game, another dropout :(

Scowler
Dec 22, 2005, 05:52 AM
I'd almost forgotten about this thread, but yes, I haven't received anything recently :(

chuanster
Dec 22, 2005, 02:27 PM
Is the game still with Viper? I haven't received anything either.

Enkidu Warrior
Dec 23, 2005, 09:57 AM
Yes, Viper has both this game and the other one I'm playing and has vanished from the face of the Earth :(

If we were playing with the latest patch I could boot Viper out and we could continue uninterupted. Maybe I can just take his turn and retire him, that is, if he hasn't set a password... I'll let you know.

chuanster
Jan 01, 2006, 06:36 AM
Hey chaps! I have today received an email from Viper. He has reemerged and the game may not continue....

Save file sent to Scowler.

Scowler
Jan 01, 2006, 09:23 AM
Game received, played and passed on to Enkidu.