I just out of a game where i constantly had to nannysit a noob friend of mine. I tried my best to please him and tell him what he should/shouldn't be doing but he keeps ignoring this and says 'i want to do my strategy it will work in the end'

yea well.. After I built stonehenge, he went and researched Calendar.

it was approaching Gunpowder age and my score was 1900 and his was 1200 and the other two where 1600 each.

I wasn't being greedy with my continent either, I even gave him control of some my units and one city.

Still despite this he only seemed to have warriors as defense when the others had muskeeters and knights. He refuses to research useful technologies (like the navy ones, i begged him to share research with me but he seemed to choose the technologies at random)


How do you cooperate with a partner who is miles behind your level of skill? I don't want to be elitist here but i don't want to be dealing with the dirty defending of a partner who neglects his civilization all the time.

is there any multiplayer team strategy i should be aware other then technical multiplayer strategy?

yea its called be random and warriors will win there odds, all they need is faith, he had it you didnt

yea its called be random and warriors will win there odds, all they need is faith, he had it you didnt

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Just give you Newbie friend a break man, how was your first Civ game? Did you figure it out all at once?

Ive pretty much figured the game out, so far im loving Romans and i don't want to change that.

after reading my thread i sound really haughty, i guess with time eventually the noobs will learn. but a rule of thumb is you play one multiplayer game every 3 or 4 singleplayer game to get the jist.

I think the ultimate multiplayer combo is Romans and Aztec/Mongol. One is the dagger and the other is the sledgehammer, this worked about 3 times in a row with a friend of mine in a team battleground. I think what i might do is when deciding to play a game have someone who i know is new to listen to my advise or wait until my friends can buy it (Nov 4-5th in England) so i can play with them.

Arabs and greeks seems to work pretty well too, the arabs are great for a peaceful strategy, and the romans back it up with steel.

How do you cooperate with a partner who is miles behind your level of skill?

Easy, stab your partner in the back and conquer the cities before the enemy does.

Sure, he may resent you, but that is life. Survival of the fittest and all that.

Well if he/she doesn't want to listen to your helpful tips on stratergy, leave them. Try showing off some of your nice units by walking slowly through his/her territory, or you could wait until they get wiped from the map.

I've played only one game of Civ IV online so far.

We decided on a 2 vs 2 (didn't know people from Adam) and well I got a player who was just plain awful.

He built a settler pretty much straight up as far as I could tell and then a worker. Of course it wasn't very long before he was destroyed by the other team.

So, 2 vs 1 and these chaps weren't bad. What did I do? Fight as hard as I could, I couldn't beat team tech plainly it was going to be just a fight for as long as I could manage.

Well, the long and short of it is that the fighting was brutal and after many little battles with scouts (me on them, them on me) and then the destruction of respective raiding forces they came at me in style - large stacks of mixed war elephant and axemen. As I was Greece I had my hoplites as my main weapon, I had done well on the tech side and so had hereditory rule and feudalism, so with the barracks and aggressive my troopers were great.

I destroyed the huge invasion force, and in turn my enemies gave up. So I won - of sorts. Had the War continued they'd have had to replace their losses and what with being so focused on a War in my lands they hadn't presumably been looking after their home economy. Even after that I had a one tile island cities that I would have evacuated enough units to make a last stand that would have cost them loads.

So, if your partner is awful, fight it out even once they are gone. People unlike A.I get dispirited once they can't break you and I (DeviousDevil) am a hard nut to break :) To my enemies I must have appeared abit like WW2 Russia (except for the losses thing). Battle after battle fought and still troops keep on coming from lands they hadn't found yet to replace those already killed.


How to aid a rubbish partner? Well if you can send troops to them but some are so hopeless there isn't even time for that!

THAT is the grave mistake that I just made an hour or so ago. Took out one opponent in a 2v2v2 and attacked the third team. I kept attacking even tho they had longbows to my horse archers,,,,tres STOOPID!

Your oponents obviously have not learned the wisdom of cataputs and combined armed to take cities, not to mention that they should have been well ahead of you in tech and been able to use much more advanced units.

CS

Your oponents obviously have not learned the wisdom of cataputs and combined armed to take cities, not to mention that they should have been well ahead of you in tech and been able to use much more advanced units.

CS

They had the combined arms bit down pat, but no catapults in sight thank the Lord. Things would have been alot tougher in that case, but that wouldn't have stopped me from fighting like a rat in a corner.

Oooh double post.

I know what the OP means.

Last night I was in an MP game on Gamespy, and my partner insisted on researching Horseback Riding very very early - for 38 turns.

Neither of us had horses yet, there was nothing to use them against, and much time was wasted researching something that later in the game could have been researched much faster, and many usefull early techs - like iron working - were neglected. And then later in the game he did it again - spent 40+ turns researching some tech that would not even have any useful effect for 50 turns.

And, like the OP noted.. at around early mid game, my score was 2400, his was 1300. Unfortunately, our opponents total scores added up to about 2x what ours was.

Build MANY cities. Conquer the world without him. Take an opponent out early, and you have a chance.

Bluerog