Bad Ronald's Custom Colors and Flags v2.0

All Changes Pictured Below:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/BADR_Color_Flag_Mod(v2.0).JPG

In each subsection of the above picture: the large flag that appears to the right of the minimap within the game is at the top left, a small pic which shows the color of the civ's border is at the bottom left, a unit with the flag to its left is in the center, and the civ's color as depicted in the minimap is at the top right. I have created new flags for every civilization except Mali, Egypt, Inca, and Aztecs (suggestions are welcome). Most are simply the modern flags of the nations in question, but for some others I either took an earlier flag or fabricated one.

Actual Flags from an Earlier Period
The Russians use the Imperial flag not the modern one (I think it fits best with the Russian leaders). I did not give the Romans the modern Italian flag but SPQR has been added to the center of the laurels, and Germany has the red, white and black tricolor (both since it fits nicely with the leaders and looks better with the default German color - gray).

Fabricated Flags Designed to Emulate the Pattern of Modern Ones
For some civilizations, I designed a flag from the perspective of "if in the time this nation/leader existed, the modern format of flags was made use of, what might their flag look like?" With that in mind, I made the Chinese flag purple and gold with a purple dragon inside the gold section. The Persian flag is based on the modern flag of Iran with these exceptions: the colors were changed from red and green to cyan and orange (Persia's civ colors) and the central symbol is now a Zoroastrian Faravahar. The Mongols' flag is based on that of modern Mongolia with these exceptions: the colors are now brown and black (Mongolia's civ colors) and the stripes were changed from three equal sized vertical ones to the pattern you see above with the leftmost stripe twice the size of the two on the right (to better accomodate the symbol).

Color Changes
Rome now has a burgundy color, which I think is more fitting than the default purple. I replaced England's former white with crimson red (barbs are now white). Japan's red has been given a slight orange tint, and the Russians are now yellowish orange to match the color of the imperial flag. Spain is yellow (also matching the flag), and Egypt is black. India has been made a dark orange, and, finally, China is purple to match their flag.

Testing Color Contrasts
Since England and Japan are both red, I placed them on a map to ensure that they are distinguishable (contrast with England and Germany with the default colors).

In Close:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/BADR_In_Game_1.JPG

Zoomed Out:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/BADR_In_Game_2.JPG

Installation (repeated in the readme):
Either unzip the file directly to '%Documents Folder%\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Custom Assets\' (there is a link to this folder in the Civ 4 root directory),
Or cut and paste the 'art' and 'xml' folders into the Custom Assets directory after unzipping

To Uninstall: (repeated in the readme)
Navigate to your custom assets folder and:
Delete the all of the .dds files in '\art\Interface\TeamColor\'
Delete '\xml\art\CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml'
Delete '\xml\interface\CIV4ColorVals' and '...\Civ4PlayerColorInfos'
Delete '\xml\civilizations\CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml'

Expansion Pack

Options Pictured Below:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/BADRExpPack.JPG

In the Instructions.txt file (included in the Expansion pack zip) you will find instructions on how to change any flag that you'd like to the modern flag of the nation in question (or the closest equivalent). I also included the Union Jack as an option for anyone who would prefer it. For the five nations absent (i.e., America, Arabia, France, Greece and India), the flags in the standard pack are already the modern flags; so, it is possible to have all nations represented with modern flags by combining the expansion pack with the default one.

The Instructions.txt file explains how to replace as many or as few flags as you'd like, so it's not necessary to use the Italian flag to represent Rome if you don't want to, etc.

Woah, Does your zoomed out always look like that?

Anyway, good job on the flags and colors. Since you copied these from mods I am assuming you wont be posting the other civ's flags, right?

Would be cool to get all the civs with their appropriate flags.

Does this mean that the egyptian border is exactly the same looking as barbarian cities?

You put a whole lot of time into fashioning that collage. Great Job fixing the colors! (Although a White England was neat.)

EDIT: Barbarian Cities/Boundaries/Units are now White

Does this mean that the egyptian border is exactly the same looking as barbarian cities?It looks the same as the original barbarian borders, but the barbs have been changed to white, so it won't be confusing.

Anyway, good job on the flags and colors. Since you copied these from mods I am assuming you wont be posting the other civ's flags, right?Unfortunately, no. I checked all of the .dds files to see if any others would be suitable, but the only German one was the Nazi flag, etc.

Edit:

You put a whole lot of time into fashioning that collage. Great Job fixing the colors! Well, presentation counts :)

Although a White England was neat.I agree, but I just couldn't stand having England next to Germany since they look almost identical on the minimap and the military advisor screen. The barbs being white really isn't as much of a problem. (Also, the pink Spanish looked just awful)

:goodjob:

I tried myself to change the standard flags but without success... I tried with the pictures. I see you use the XML ? I will check this way...
:thanx:

If you can get JPGs of the flags of the other nations, I could attempt to convert them to DDS for you. Might as well replace them all I say.

Nice work.

Btw, that's not the English flag.. that's the Union Jack, the flag of the United Kingdom.
The English flag is the cross of St George - a red cross on a white background..

I thought the Union Jack also had the diagonal red cross... Unless they forgot to rename the flag after changeing it, that would be quite british :p

The flags look great, I was a bit startled to find the Somalian flag as the American one :crazyeye:

Nice work.

Btw, that's not the English flag.. that's the Union Jack, the flag of the United Kingdom.
The English flag is the cross of St George - a red cross on a white background..I know; I just think the Union Jack looks better :) . I was considering modding the English civ to be the UK, but that would extend the mod beyond the realm of graphics, and I'd rather not include such a change. It's not possible to keep St. George's Cross and make the English civ's primary color anything other than white, unless a custom flag is created (I spoke too soon, see below :blush: ). The flag would have a dark red background and a white cross with the way that the colors are defined at the moment.

Edit: Actually, if you really want to keep the English flag, do the following (or download the second file in the original post):

Open /xml/interface/Civ4PlayerColorInfos.xml, find PLAYERCOLOR_DARK_RED and change <ColorTypeSecondary>COLOR_PLAYER_WHITE</ColorTypeSecondary> to <ColorTypeSecondary>COLOR_PLAYER_RED</ColorTypeSecondary>.

Then, open /xml/art/Civ4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml and change <Path>Mods/American Revolution/Assets/Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_UK.dds</Path> under England's entry to <Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_StGeorgeCross.dds</Path>.

Great! Thank you.
God Save the Queen, and so forth.

Btw, your 'zoomed out' view is like nothing I've ever seen.. how did you achieve that effect?

Thanks again..

OT, but better to answer here, I think.

The zoomed out view is using the 'culture' button. I discovered this the other day myself - when you zoom out far enough, the normal buttons above the minimap all change their pictures and do completely different things - military, culture, religion, etc instead of 'tile yields'. I have yet to see this feature documented anywhere in the manual or civilopedia.

very nice work !

what about doing the same for France, germany... and other civ ?

i think you could take .dds from the krispa40 mod called
"FlaG Mod" - (Banderas)

i think it s a good idea to complete your pack with other modern flags...

I thought the Union Jack also had the diagonal red cross... Unless they forgot to rename the flag after changeing it, that would be quite british :p

The flags look great, I was a bit startled to find the Somalian flag as the American one :crazyeye:

That's the Irish St. Patrick's Cross that bisects the Scots' St. Andrew's Cross. So, yes, we need to make sure that the Irish get represented here. haven't they suffered enough...? :D

BTW, am I the only one who thinks the flags (esp. the modern ones,) might look better if they were hung vertically, instead of attempting to squeeze them in horizontally?

I thought the Union Jack also had the diagonal red cross... Unless they forgot to rename the flag after changeing it, that would be quite british :p

The flags look great, I was a bit startled to find the Somalian flag as the American one :crazyeye:


OK...

Red horizontal and vertical cross on a white background is the Cross of St. George, which is for England.

A blue flag with X-shaped white cross is for St. Andrew, which is for Scotland.

A red x-shaped cross is for St. Patrick, which is for Ireland.

In 1603 Elizabeth I dies without and heir. James VII of Scotland inherited the throne of England due to intermarriage of the Tudors and Stewards. Hence the United Kingdom of Great Brittan was born. The Blue with a white X flag of Scotland was combined with the Red Cross on a White Flag for England to form the Union Jack with no red X was born.

The Red X was added in 192? When Northern Ireland became part of the Country. The Name of the country also changed to "The United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland"

Clear as mud?


** edited to correct my terrible spelling.

New version up, please make comments/suggestions :).

Excellent work, well done! :goodjob:

Just a small suggestion if I may. In Egypt's flag, you could give the hieroglyphic a more bright touch so it is easily spotted on the little flag version that appears on the map! Not that this is a big deal or anything, it just seems a bit blurry. Well it may only be the screenshot that fails to resemble it, not sure! Just a thought :)

Damn fine work!!

I commend you on this excellent mod. The choice of flags is perfect, I am glad you chose the ones you did.:D

Great mod and nice graphics!

I followed all your directions ( I think... ) and opened the game and it worked just fine. However... :eek: .... next time I open the game, every civilization has these plain white flags. WASSUP!?? :cry:

I dunno what I did wrong... hrrmmmm. Seems very strange it would work, then suddenly not work! For no given reason??

Just a small suggestion if I may. In Egypt's flag, you could give the hieroglyphic a more bright touch so it is easily spotted on the little flag version that appears on the map! Not that this is a big deal or anything, it just seems a bit blurry. Well it may only be the screenshot that fails to resemble it, not sure! Just a thought :)It's probably just the jpeg compression in the preview pic, since Egypt's flag is one of the four that have not been modified from the originals.

I dunno what I did wrong... hrrmmmm. Seems very strange it would work, then suddenly not work! For no given reason??Hmm, that is stange. I haven't had that problem, but the only thing that I can think of is that the first time you tried it you started a new game, but for the second you loaded an earlier save... this could mess things up slightly since the game will try to keep the prior colors/flags, but I don't know if that's definately the problem. Goto your custom assets directory and make sure that the files are all still there, since this could also be a problem...

Oh, and thanks to everyone for the complements; they are much appreciated :).

Hmm, that is stange. I haven't had that problem, but the only thing that I can think of is that the first time you tried it you started a new game, but for the second you loaded an earlier save... this could mess things up slightly since the game will try to keep the prior colors/flags, but I don't know if that's definately the problem. Goto your custom assets directory and make sure that the files are all still there, since this could also be a problem...


Hmmm... check this out. I realised why it worked the first time, and not the second time. It's because only certain flags will work. The first time I used the Egyptians, and it worked. However, the second time I used the Americans, and the America flag showed up as white. (For some reason, after re-installing the game to make sure everything was perfect, now they all show up as a bright fushia/purple color!!! :mad: )

So why is it that only certain flags are working on my computer with your mod? From what I have seen, the American, Japanese, Roman flags dont work with my computer while the Egypt, Aztec, Mali ones are working fine.

It may be that my graphics card can't handle this? Has anyone had similar difficulties??

@Brento,

Goto to this location: '[Whatever your documents folder is called]\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\Interface\TeamColor\' and check to make sure that all 14 .dds files are there. It may be that you unzipped the 'xml' folder but forgot to unzip the 'art' folder. I hope this helps.

@Brento,

Goto to this location: '[Whatever your documents folder is called]\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\Interface\TeamColor\' and check to make sure that all 14 .dds files are there. It may be that you unzipped the 'xml' folder but forgot to unzip the 'art' folder. I hope this helps.

Sorry to fill up so much space on your post with my problems, but yeah, the files were all there. I followed everything to the T. I'm sure it's something to do with my computer, as it can only run the game at what seems to be 98% (my nuclear weapons don't explode is all I've noticed so far, although, I suppose this is a small problem compared to some others on this site).

The strange thing with your flag/color mod is how when I install it, only a few of the flags actually work. And then when I uninstall it (and I'm sure I am doing this correctly) the game will never load the original flags correctly again. They will all come out either white or bright purple/pink. Now, I know it seems like I must have been making a mistake somewhere, but trust me, I followed all the instructions seamlessly (honest: I'm fairly good with computers, I'm a sound designer with many years experience). But my skills won't help me here I suppose. :confused:

I'm afraid I'll have to upgrade my computer's graphics card or get myself a seperate computer specifically for gaming. If anyone else has the same problem as I, and knows how to fix it, I'd be glad if u could share! Till then, I will just have to make due with Civ4's inferior flags and colors...

It definintely looks great and you did a great job on each of the flags - I was thinking though, the colors for China and Rome should be reversed - the imperial color for Rome is purple (which is why it was purple to begin with - "emperors were distinguished by wearing togae purpurae, purple togas — hence the phrase "to don the purple" for the assumption of imperial dignity)" (wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Emperor)) and the imperial color for China is red (Red is considered a very lucky color - hence everything from flags to doors to ink comes in red). But other than that, it really looks awesome. I look forward to using it!

BTW, am I the only one who thinks the flags (esp. the modern ones,) might look better if they were hung vertically, instead of attempting to squeeze them in horizontally?

Or, if someone is brave enough, to modify the meshes (dunno if the flag stand is seperate from units or not), and alter the direction (so its like a modern flag on a pole)

Would be great if you could have 2 meshes (one vertical, other horizontal), and then, assign the mesh depending on the nation, since there are flags that will look better on one but not the other

But that might be not be doable (even though would be fun if it is, *imagines all the crazy looking flags modders will think of)

Nepal! :lol:
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hi, i have prb with your great mod.

First, the flags works fine only in single game.

In multiplayer, i got full colored (sometimes white) flags :( ... it s strange because your first version was ok.

do u have any idea to solve that prb ?

Hmmm... check this out. I realised why it worked the first time, and not the second time. It's because only certain flags will work. The first time I used the Egyptians, and it worked. However, the second time I used the Americans, and the America flag showed up as white. (For some reason, after re-installing the game to make sure everything was perfect, now they all show up as a bright fushia/purple color!!! :mad: )

So why is it that only certain flags are working on my computer with your mod? From what I have seen, the American, Japanese, Roman flags dont work with my computer while the Egypt, Aztec, Mali ones are working fine.

It may be that my graphics card can't handle this? Has anyone had similar difficulties??

I confirm... problem for me too. (MULTIPLAYER only)

The differences with your first version are .dds files. i think those files can be used for single player only. in other case, civ4 overrides them with original ones in multiplayer config, then doesn't load the correct xml from the /customAssets folder. Your first version was working better because you have changed the filepath only... not the dds files. now i think we must find a method to override these basics dds files from civ4/assets, not customAssets. it s only a clue...not a solution :)

I must delete your files if i want to play an online/multiplayer game.

I ll try some stuffs, if it works, i reply here..

cya

have a look to my new roads : http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=136716

I solved the problem.

The multiplayer config seems to not load the .dds and xml files from the /CustomAssets folder.

Then i unzip ALL the files directly into the CIV4/assets folder. (NOT MyDocument/Civ4/CustomAssets)

Now it works fine with multiplayer :)

very nice ..

going to try this ..

Wow. These are stunning!

Would you consider expanding these to include other civs? There is a Turkish mod and Finnish mod out now with their own flags, and my Canada mod with no flag because I'm graphically lame.

Would you consider adding these as you go to create a "master" flag file?

One comment on the German Flag: The Red/Black/White banner did not come into existance until the 19th century or so, when the German Holy-Roman Empire finally ceased to exist. Most of German history though was under this flag:

http://flagspot.net/images/d/de_sacr1.gif

From 962 to 1806 - almost a thousand years - that was the flag of rhe German Holy-Roman Empire and was the foundation for the German Empire that followed and adopted the Red/Black/White banner somewhere around 1848 or so. The Black/Red/Yellow colors were also seen prior to 1949 on various occasions, and the Eagle as seen in the old german flag is still seen on Official State flags today such as the flag used by several Federal authorities and in many official occasions, which is this flag:

http://flagspot.net/images/d/de_state.gif

Personally, I think the German flag should incorporate the Eagle in their flag as the Eagle is so widely used in anything official and government.

Also, the eagle is found back in the Presidential Standard:

http://flagspot.net/images/d/de_pres.gif

Even in modern Germany, the eagle can be found everywhere, from the German version of the Euro coin, City Halls across Germany, the (very old) Deutsche Post logo.

Of course the eagle was also used by the nazi's but that was in a much different form as the historic german eagle logo:

http://www.dandbmilitaria.com/Badges%20Photo/thumbnails/German%20Eagle%20Badge_JPG.jpg

I personally think the German flag should feature the Eagle as displayed in this picture:

http://www.acs-onweb.de/hd/content/pres_c3_symbols_of_identity/germaneagle.GIF

A yellow flag with the Eagle in the middle.

Wow. These are stunning!


I of course forgot to say in my comments about the German Flag that regardless this is indeed an awesome piece of work and I will download and use it!!

Rome was purple because the Petorian Gaurds wore purple uniforms

cool, me likin :)

how does one go about creating custom flag anyway? could be useful info for later custom civ creation

Hey, everything looks great! Just one thing could you do the Mexican Flag for the Aztecs? The Eagle & Serpent symbol is Aztec anyways so it would be appropiate.

nice work ! congratz.

May I interest you into making flags for WWII Europe: Small, Fast & Beautiful (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=137154)?

Isn't the german flag Red-Yellow-Black?

Isn't the german flag Red-Yellow-Black?
The current one is, yes.
It is the Flag of the revolution of 1848.
The Black White Red Flag is the Flag of Bismarcks Germany.
It Represents the largest state (Prussia, Black and White) and the smallest state (Bremen, Red and White) in the now unified Germany.

Cheers Steeleagle

Isn't the german flag Red-Yellow-Black?

the german flag as of now is from top to bottom:

black - red - gold. (and not yellow)

I made a flag in bmp and I saved it in .dds with the nvidia plug-in of photoshop. In the game, my flag it totally white, could you help me ?

What are you using to convert the jpegs to dds?

Is there a guide where I can create my own customs?

I made a flag in bmp and I saved it in .dds with the nvidia plug-in of photoshop. In the game, my flag it totally white, could you help me ?

Hello,

I have the same problem using photoshop. The problem comes ( as far as I know) from a "alpha channel".
Make the experiment with the WTV reader, in the options uncheck "Use alpha channel" you will see the pink disappear.
In order to see my pictures, for the moment the only solution I have found under Adobe Photoshop is to modify an existing picture, taking care of the famous "alpha channel" when I save...
Hope it helps you ...:)

Thanks for all the feedback everyone :) ; sorry for not responding earlier, I've had a lot of work this week.

I use GIMP to make the files and DDS Converter to change them from .psd to .dds; unfortunately, I have absolutely no clue how to help anyone using photoshop, as I've never used the program. Frenchmen's suggestion will almost certainly work though, just use DDS Converter to take a dds file and convert to psd (or whatever you'd like), modify it, then use DDS converter to change it back to dds (make sure to check the "build mipmaps" radio button in the options menu).

Once you get past the initial steps, there are other things to keep in mind. Always remember to take into account that the flags will be scrunched up at the top when designing anything other than vertical tricolors (where it won't make a difference). For horizontal tricolors make the top stripe much larger and the bottom one somewhat larger. For flags like America don't place the stars right at the top; instead, leave some room for it to be rollled up at the top in game.

Looks fantastic,I will try them, just one thing I really like the Barbs Black, it seems to suit them.

Sweet, Good Job man, I like it.

They're nice, but I have to say that I think the modern flags would look better if they hung vertically and kept the original flag's proportions.

I will be using the Russian and Roman ones (in addition to the colour changes), though, so thanks a bunch in any case! :)

I'm having the same problem as brento1138. The new team colors were correct, but the flags were blank. When I uninstalled, certain civs' colors were wrong (England had a orange and red flag).

Does anyone know how to clear the cache? That might solve it.

They look great, btw. I just want to use them! :D

Yup i installed too the "custom assets" folder overwriting the XML and art folders and have england with just white flag and in another scenario (yes i play england alot atm) its just black,love the look of the flag pack ronald and this being the first modding attempt for me at the game want too get this fixed before i start adding new skins too the game (some great ones out there too).

I'm working on Czech nation for CivIV and it is practically completed. I can't do flagdecal in DDS Convertor only. That flag is white in the game (I think it is because alpha channel). I don't have Photoshop or something similar. Can somebody help me? This is that flag:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=105056&stc=1&d=1132869910
If you can convert it to .dds what will be function please do it. Help me please!

Edited:
It is done now. The czech flag is completed. Czech nation will be added in several days. I thank everybody who wanted help me.

Hi Civ folks!

First of all, thanks to Bad Ronald for a mod well done - and to all the other modders in this forum as well who keep this excellent game getting even better.

I followed your discussion about a "proper" German flag replacement and since I found some comprehensive information about both the black-red-gold and the black-white-red tricolor flags on http://www.deutsche-kaiserreich.de/ - I thought I'd translate the stuff they wrote on their website from German to English. Even myself, as a native German living in Frankfurt am Main, learned a lot reading this. Comments in brackets have been added by myself for the sake of clarity:

Black-red-gold flag:

Black-red-gold is the older German flag. The origin of the colors is the uniforms of the "Lützower Freikorps", a corps of volunteers who fought under the leadership of the Prussian Major Adolf von Lützow against French occupation in Germany in 1813. (It was also in this year when the Iron Cross or "Eisernes Kreuz" was invented by Frederick William III of Prussia, as a decoration for bravery in the fight against the French.) The corps' uniforms were made up of black and red tunics with golden buttons. (Note that it is nevertheless true that black and gold were also the colors of the ancient Holy Roman Empire during the Medieval.) On June 17th 1813, the corps was ambushed by the French at Kitzen near Leipzig, and was almost completely annihilated. On June 12th 1815, seven students who had served in the corps, together with other nationalist students, founded the Fraternity of Jena ("Burschenschaft zu Jena" - the first German student league). They chose black-red-gold to be the colors of the fraternity. Excerpt from the constitutional charter (translated): "To commemorate the fact that despite all the joys of youth, the seriousness of life is to be kept in mind, they chose red and black as the colors of their banner."

On October 18th 1817, the fourth anniversary of the Battle of Leipzig ("Völkerschlacht bei Leipzig" - defeat of the remnants of Napoleon's army withdrawing from the Battle of Moscow), about 500 students of the fraternity and some professors from all over Germany went to the Wartburg near Eisenach (the same castle where Martin Luther translated the Bible to German during his exile). Their intend was to demonstrate for freedom and a unification of all German states, waving red-black-red flags (only the fringes were golden at that time). (Note: as opposed to the United States, where the term "liberal" has a somewhat different meaning, these were the founding days of liberalism in Germany. Being a liberal in Germany at that time meant to oppose the hierarchic order of Germany's split-up monarchies and aristocracies, struggling to replace them by a republic, a unified German nation. At that time, the monarch rulers of the independent German states suppressed and prosecuted such movements as they feared the loss of their political power.)

At the Hambach Convention ("Hambacher Fest" - May 27th-May 30th 1832), 30.000 participants demonstrated for nationalistic and democratic goals and, for the first time, used a black-red-gold tricolor flag. In the middle red stripe the words "Deutschlands Wiedergeburt" (Germany's rebirth) were clearly showing the demand of the crowd - the formation of a unified German state. On May 18th 1848, the representatives of the first German national assembly gathered in the Paulskirche church in Frankfurt am Main. On November 13th 1848, the black-red-gold flag was proclaimed to be the German flag. Moreover, the flag was used as a naval ensign by the German Confederate Navy ("Deutsche Bundesmarine") 1848-1852. In the German War ("Deutscher Krieg") of 1866, Austria and her allies fought under that flag against Prussia and her allies.

Today, black-red-gold is a symbol for the German democracy. In the German Empire ("Deutsches Reich"), these colors were the state flags of the principalities of Waldeck, Reuss Younger Line and Reuss Elder Line. From 1919 until 1933, the black-red-gold flag once again became the national flag of Germany. The new social democratic government deliberately chose the old colors black-red-gold to represent the first German republic, to dissociate (the new state) from the old (Imperial) system and its symbols (the black-white-red flag). At that time, this was supposed to make it easier for Austria to unify with Germany (which never happened until 1938, when Hitler annexed Austria by force), as the Germans in Austria-Hungary also used black-red-gold as their flag. Since 1949, it was the national flag of both German states (Federal Republic of Germany - "West Germany" / German Democratic Republic - "East Germany"). (In 1956, the East German flag was officially altered to carry additional, socialist symbols in a centered crest, consisting of a hammer, compasses and grain - symbolizing workers, academic persons and farmers. Since the re-unification of both German post-WWII states in 1990, the plain black-red-gold flag is, again, the national flag of Germany.)

Black-white-red flag:

Today, it is often implied that Bismarck's anti-democratic attitude was the reason for (his) rejection of black-red-gold (as the colors of the North German Confederation). The true reason probably is the German War of 1866 ("Deutscher Krieg" - Prussia and her allies against Austria and her allies), where the troops loyal to the German Confederation ("Deutscher Bund" - Austria, Saxonia, Bavaria, Wurttemberg, Hanover, Hesse-Darmstadt, Baden, Saxe-Meiningen, Hesse-Nassau, Reuss Elder Line, and Frankfurt), under leadership of Austria, used that flag as their banner, which incorporated those ancient German colors. Therefore, it is understandable that Bismarck didn't want to use the war flag of (Prussia's) former enemies as the new flag of the North German Confederation ("Norddeutscher Bund" - all German states except Bavaria, Wurttemberg, Baden, Austria - led by Prussia, founded in 1867), and so he decided in favor of black-white-red. This new flag (black-white-red) was chosen as the symbol of the North German Confederation because it merged the Prussian colors (black-white) and the colors of (most) Northern German states and cities (white-red), as well as to demonstrate the tradition to the Hansa city states (including the city of Bremen). In the Franco-German War of 1870/71, the troops of the North German Confederation fought under that new flag (black-white-red) [...]. After proclamation of the German Empire ("Deutsches Reich") in 1871, black-white-red became the official state flag until 1919.

The Germans strongly identified themselves with the new colors and numerous patriotic songs were composed to glorify them, as the old desire for a unified state was achieved under this flag. The gratification and pride to have decisively beaten (Germany's) old rival, France, as well as the Empire's increased (military) strength and (political) power influenced this strong relationship to the national symbols of the (new) German Empire. For instance, whenever Germany claimed a new colony (during the Age of Imperialism that was to follow), this was symbolized by raising the Empire's flag ("Reichsflagge"), which is documented on many paintings and pictures. In 1914, hundreds of thousands of volunteers marched into war under the black-white-red flag with enthusiasm, as they believed to be home again by the time when the leaves would fall in Autumn. Nobody could really imagine the horrors of war that were to come. The Germans were convinced at that time, that the German Empire had been (deliberately) forced into this war by its enemies. [...].

Many of those, whose comrades senselessly died in the battlefields of World War I, didn't quite understand why exactly those colors, for which they had fought for such a long time, were not going to remain on the flag of the German Empire (after the armistice) in 1918. The new social democratic government deliberately chose the old colors black-red-gold to represent the first German republic, to dissociate (the new state) from the old (Imperial) system and its symbols. At the same time, this was supposed to make it easier for Austria to unify with Germany, as the Germans in Austria-Hungary also used black-red-gold as their flag. During the whole time of its existence, the so-called Weimar Republic ("Weimarer Republik" - 1918-1933) there were disputes about the flag. Black-white-red (even) remained the merchant flag of the Weimar Republic, and since 1926, (the old flag) even became an additional flag of the foreign embassies of the German Empire in 1926 by an official order of (President) Hindenburg ("Flaggenverordnung"). In the first years of the Third Reich ("Drittes Reich" - inofficial term commonly used for Germany during the time of Nazi rule), the old black-white-red flag was used in parallel to the swastika flag ("Hakenkreuzfahne") until 1935 (official order from March 12th 1933). Until today, the reputation of the black-white-red flag is heavily damaged by that fact, as well as due to its wide-spread use by Neonazi organisations (who use it because the display of the swastika is strictly forbidden in Germany).

I hope I don't get punished by the admin for such a long post... :) Cheers!

@bad-ronald

I use your new colours and I`m delighted! But I want to change the colours of China and Rome (China red, Rome purple).

What have I to do to only change this two colours?

Sorry for my bad English!!!:blush:

I'm suprised no one has mentioned this but, I like the flags a lot, you should change the american flag.

See illustration no. 1 at this link:
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

http://www.outlawslegal.com/organic/flag_files/flag_display_on_wall.jpg

Otherwise good job.

I have unzipped this into the custom assets folder, everything is there when I open the folders. Nothing shows up in the game. I have loaded other mods into the custom assets folder and they all work fine.

Any one else having any trouble.

Expansion pack is now up in the first post :) .

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@Cortilein,

Thank you for your translation of the German article, and discussion of the issues surrounding the German flag. I included the red, white, and black tricolor because it fits best with Bismark and the German civ color (gray). However, the modern German flag is now an option in the expansion pack, so I hope this satisfies everyone ;).

@eatomhoch,

The reason that I don't want to display the American flag like that is that it would not be consistent with the direction that I've chosen for the tricolors. I understand that it may look nicer for one flag to be hung vertically, but I think that consistency is more important. In the future, I may make a version where all flags are hung vertically and include it as an option in the OP. Thank you for your comments, though.

Awesome. A simply must have in the custom assets folder!

could you make a soviet russian flag and a Nazi Germany Flag??

could you make...a Nazi Germany Flag??

Yeah, that would be in good taste. :rolleyes:

Thanx for the expansion pack ronald as i really like the union jack for england (a very nice one too) i only use your flags so keep up the great work mate..too myserio..i'd like too see ronald do a nazi flag as well..hey i'd use it and well if others dont then it all comes down too a matter of choice dos'nt it,unlike your current president who refuses too conduct stem cell research based on his weird religious beleifs he leaves no choice at all for those who suffer and die because of his decision,this is only a flag graphic from a time in our history and only gives people a choice..which is what its all about is'nt it.

too myserio..i'd like too see ronald do a nazi flag as well..hey i'd use it and well if others dont then it all comes down too a matter of choice dos'nt it,unlike your current president who refuses too conduct stem cell research based on his weird religious beleifs he leaves no choice at all for those who suffer and die because of his decision,this is only a flag graphic from a time in our history and only gives people a choice..which is what its all about is'nt it.

Learn the difference between "to" and "too", and how properly to write contractions. I normally don't comment on incorrect grammar, but you drew first blood, so you get both barrels.

You're kidding, right? You're equating President Bush's stance on stem cell research to the Holocaust carried out by the Nazis in WWII? Oh...my...God. Anti-drug campaigns should use your analogy as proof that drugs kill brain cells. The Nazis had ZERO redeeming qualities, yet you want to display their flag in Civ IV.

If you're going to post such nonsense in the future, please have the decency to wear your white, pointy hood while you compose your pearls of idiocy.

EDIT: BTW, I don't object to including Nazis in games when they're integral to the content. The Nazi flag is not integral to Civ IV's content; it plays just fine without it. Sure, one is free to choose to display that flag in the game, but why one would ever choose to display a symbol that represents the very worst in human beings is beyond me.

Why a Nazi-Flag? Friedrich and Bismarck? Nazi?:crazyeye:

Bad Ronald, I would really like you to create a Prussian eagle decal, giving Fred the Great's civ a truer historical context. I know this would mean an investment of time & talent... but do you think it would be a good idea?
Yours in fraternity, Roops

Dang man, those flags are sweet. Thanks for taking the time to make them!

Bad Ronald,

Do you have plans to create matching buttons for both your original flag pak and the expansion pak? I noticed that the Pedia buttons don't match the flags (because we never specified new dds files for the buttons, of course).

If I knew how to edit dds files... maybe I could do all this myself :)

Definitely my favorite mod so far as the default colors and flags have always bugged me. But now it's stopped working for me.

After doing a clean install of Civ plus the new patch, I extracted this as always as the only non-vanilla thing in the Custom Assets directory. But now I get white flags for all civs on my desktop with an Nvida card and it works perfectly on my laptop with ATI 9200 mobility. Prior to this it worked just fine on both. Any idea what might be wrong?

TIA

i would like to see the nazi flag too...

not because im pro nazis etc---but to me (an american) when i think of germany and wars, i think of hitler and wwii...and i like to kick nazi butt---i dont much about the other german leaders....


as for the soviet flag---theres a post that someone has created the flag...(would still like to see it here in the expansion flags..since yours are great so far)

I really like using this mod in all my games, but the German white borders can be hard to see.

this is kinda cool...

Excellent mod, thanks Ronald.

I think your idea for a British mod has some merit, you should try it out. Personally, (being a Scotsman) i felt insulted that you could only play the "English" empire, this is unfair as Scots (& Irish & Welsh) have played a massive part of the developement of the British empire. Although its nice to play the modded Scottish, Welsh & Irish i find it hard to swallow when im dominating the world.

& the redcoats look cool with the union jack..

Would also be good to see a Russian Soviet flag & Nazi Flag, everybody knows the connotations but we are all adults right :/

Mr BADR,
I borrowed your AMERICA flag for my scenario THE CIVIL WAR, but i don't know what's happening because, as you can see from the screenshots, it shows dark bluish instead of full color.
See:
http://usuarios.lycos.es/zaberintio/scenarios.html

Thrust123,

In the '\assets\xml\art\CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml' file for your mod, make sure that you have <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag> for the Union instead of <bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag>

The Greek flag you used is really a guiet modern flag dating from 1828.The cross showing its relationship with the Greek Orthadox Church. This was an a period when they where under domination of the Otteman Empire. I believe other flags predating this one would be better enlight of the greatness that was once Greece.

HI!
Well I have a problem, but I dont know what can happens... I have install both flag's xpansions and now when I play, all the flags are white.
I have check all the xml... and all is correct. Someone can help me?
I have the lowest graphic level because I have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440...

I'm lost, which folder in the custom assets does the file go into?

Any chance for a modern Portuguese Flag?

The Greek flag you used is really a guiet modern flag dating from 1828.The cross showing its relationship with the Greek Orthadox Church. This was an a period when they where under domination of the Otteman Empire. I believe other flags predating this one would be better enlight of the greatness that was once Greece.Well, I like the modern Greek flag, but if you post a suggestion for a specific Greek flag from an earlier period I may add it as an option in the expansion pack.

I'm lost, which folder in the custom assets does the file go into?If you go to your Civ 4 root directory (the default is 'C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4') there will be a link to the folder named '_Civ4CustomAssets'. Just doubleclick that, and you should be fine.

Any chance for a modern Portuguese Flag?If you make a mod adding the Portuguese civ, I'll gladly create one. I just don't see any reason to offer a flag without a corresponding civ.

There are many mods which add the Portuguese civilization, not to mention the Superciv one.
That's why I asked you.

bad_ronald can you help me??? I cant see any flag only the white one's.
I have check all the xml... and all is correct. Someone can help me?
I have the lowest graphic level because I have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440,problem???

Thanks!!!!!!!

Absolutely AWESOME!

But I will combine some of the flags from the standard mod and some from the expansion pack, and with the standard Civ4 Roman flag. I also love the new colors.

here are 2 good examples of the correct ww2 german flag. Thought this may help.

ok here is the other one.

OK...

In 1603 Elizabeth I dies without and heir. James VII of Scotland inherited the throne of England due to intermarriage of the Tudors and Stewards. Hence the United Kingdom of Great Brittan was born. The Blue with a white X flag of Scotland was combined with the Red Cross on a White Flag for England to form the Union Jack with no red X was born.

The Red X was added in 192? When Northern Ireland became part of the Country. The Name of the country also changed to "The United Kingdom of Great Brittan and Northern Ireland"

Clear as mud?


** edited to correct my terrible spelling.

In 1603 Elizabeth I died without direct heirs. Her cousin James VI (not VII) ascended the throne of England to become James I.

The two countries remained separate until the the Act of Union (1707) during the reign of Queen Anne. It was at this point that the Union FLAG, combining the saltire of St. Andrew and the cross of St. George , was devised.

Only when flown on sea-going vessels are flags referred to as "jacks".

The red and white saltire of St. Patrick was added to the Union FLAG in 1801 due to the 1801 Act of Union that united the United Kindom of Great Britain with Ireland. At this point the country became known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

This remained in place until 1921 when after years of treasonable revolution (included the utterly vile and despicable Easter Rising of 1916) 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland were permitted to withdraw from the Union. These 26 counties became known as the Irish Free State. The six remaining loyal counties became, and still are, known as Northern Ireland. The country was renamed to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". This is the name that remains today; it is the longest official country name in the world. The form of the Union FLAG did not change, and remains as it was modified in 1801.

As a side note: the 6 counties of Northern Ireland are sometimes, erroneously, referred to as "Ulster". Ulster is one of the four ancient kingdoms of Ireland (the others being Munster, Leinster and Connaught) and it comprises 9 of the 32 counties (Antrim, Down, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Armagh, Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan). The first six in the list comprise Northern Ireland, the last three are part of what is now known as the "Republic of Ireland".

Clear as crystal?

This is nice if you want a change :)

ive copied and pasted both the 1st set and expansion set of flags as the directions told me but i still dont get anything other then the default flags.

im playing the blue marble edition and was wondering if this might be why it dont work?

ive copied and pasted both the 1st set and expansion set of flags as the directions told me but i still dont get anything other then the default flags.

im playing the blue marble edition and was wondering if this might be why it dont work?I don't think that Blue Marble is the problem; I'm also using it. The only way another mod could cause a problem is if it also modifies the xml files that I've changed. What else have you installed?

@mrkhubbard,

The Nazi flag is neither suitable for the German leaders in the game nor is it the modern flag of Germany (which I included just for the sake of those who prefer to have every nation represented this way), so I see no reason to offer it as an option for this mod. If you make a WWII scenario or a pack of WWII civs, then I would make flags for all of them.

I've been looking for this...awesome!

Sorry for this, but I'm a noob...

Is it possible to just add one of the flags from the main pack? I just want to add the USA and maybe the UK.

Great job, BTW.

Just put the flags you want in the ...\My Games\Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\interface\teamcolor folder (or whatever your equivalent is).

Sorry for this, but I'm a noob...

Is it possible to just add one of the flags from the main pack? I just want to add the USA and maybe the UK.

Great job, BTW.Yes, first, place all of the flags that you want to use in '%Your Documents Folder%\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\art\interface\TeamColor\"
Next, copy 'C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\assets\xml\art\Civ4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml' to '%Your Documents Folder%\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\CustomAssets\xml\art\'. Then, find the civ that you want to change within the xml file (you can open it with notepad) and change the last part of the <path> to the name of the file for the flag you want and change <bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag> to <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag> (or else you'll get strange colors or nothing at all).

For example, after putting the American flag in the directory I just specified, change America's entry in the xml file to: <Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/America.dds</Path> and <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag>; this will give you the American flag from my mod only.

To change England's flag to the Union Jack, modify the path entry so that it reads: <Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/UK.dds</Path> and once again <bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag> from <bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag>

aren't the The nazi's responsible for the Panzer tank? that is in the game, no-one complains about that. If someone wants to have the nazi flag on their Panzer tank unit, I don't see any problem w/ that. Saying the nazi flag is inapproiate in a GAME is really closed minded. you are putting your head in the sand and trying to ignore history.

Spearhavoc, do I get the impression that you are an Orangeman? Try to keep the following in mind:

1.)The British Government outlawed the United Irishman in 1791, despite the fact that their stated goal was merely to bring together the divided Catholic and Protestant communities of Ireland, and make all equal under the law. (And they were mostly Protestants!)

2.)King Goerge utterly refused Pitt's suggestion for Catholic Emancipation after the United Irishmen Rising, disgusting staunchly loyal British subjects, such as the Marquis of Cornwallis, who resigned as Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland following this.

3.)The frighteningly anti-Irish attitude of British parliamentary conservatives in the period following the Napoleonic Wars, and the utterly reprehensible behavior of landowners such as the Beresfords, which set the stage for the Potato Famine, and then did nothing about it.

All these things set the the stage for the Easter Rising.

And what about the Black and Tans? the British government hardly showed themselves to be better, more civilized and decent by any means.

I can claim direct line of descent from the original Richard, Earl of Clare "Strongbow", who first brought the Normans to Ireland. My ancestry is heavily English. (Nor do I advocate the IRA, who have been pansies since Michael Collins died.) But the pure cold fact of the matter is that if the British Government had not been blatantly unresponsive to the needs and problems of, and often heavily biased against their Irish subjects, the Easter Rebellion might not have happened at all, and Ireland might still be part of the United Kingdom, an entity whcih, despite all of the above repression, most Irish people were loyal subjects of, with nearly 40% of the British Army being Irish at any given time throughout the 18th and 19th Centuries.

For Mysterio10000:
YTou said the Nazis had "ZERO" good points: that is in fact not accurate. They would never have achieved the popularity that they did in Weimar Germany (which was a very well educated and literate society), had that been true. Amongst the good things that they did:

1.)Thier ideal of "Volksgemeinschaft", a classless society, which they did a lot to implement, opening up the higher positions of the government and military to the middle and lower classes, and speading the idea that there was no shame in blue collar work, both through the media, (Ppropoganda), and through organizations such as the Labour Service, which gave many Germans from all walks of life a taste of manual labour, and a new appreciation for it.

2.)They raised German minimum wage, and made it mandatory for German companies to provide high school education for employees who had none, at a time when, in sophisticated countries like the UK, many people in the lower class began work at 14, having never really gotten more than a primary eduaction, and not ever getting the opportunity to do so.

3.)They passed basic laws against animal cruelty which became the model for similar laws all across the European Union today.

4.)They emphasised the rights of children and teenagers in a way which most modern countries still don't do, giving them a voice for the first time, and exposing many kinds of abuse that previously were ignored or disbelieved.

5.)They man they picked as head of the police (not Himmler, who was just titular head, I mean his deputy, Heydrich.) was so good at his job that he was made President of Interpol, and remained the head of this international organization even while WWI was raging. Of course, he also headed the team that drew up and implemented the plans for the Holocaust...
(And yes, technically, he was just head of the Security Police, which was the SD, Gestapo and Kripo, but since the Gestapo and Kripo (Kriminalpolizei, or the detectives) did all the real police work, with the Orpo (Ordnungspolizei) being little more than traffic cops and riot control, he was head of the police in all wasy that mattered. He also introduced the first health insurance program to Czech industries. (No, that is not a joke.)

6.)They formalized and expanded the whole social welfare system of modern Germany, introducing paid vacations, health insurance, expanding child labour laws, and trying, though the war screwed this up, to supply every German family with a car.

Was it all roses? Of course not. Did they do many horrible things? Certainly. But while the things they did don't stand much comparison to things like Bush's stance on stem cell research, they do bear remarkable similarity to the Roman habit of enslaving peoples who fought against them, or for example, Roman behaviour during the whole Bodicea episode in Britain, which was utterly sordid from beginning to end. But nobody goes around saying the Romans had no redeeming qualities, do they? And the Aztecs and Incas and their sacrifices? The Athenian habit of feeding female children less, and giving them grossly inferior education? The Chinese and their infanticide, and mutilation of women's feet? The Arabs and North African Moslems (Like the Mali), and their female circumcision? Yet we call these great civilzations, and put them in these games because of the things they did accomplish, in spite of their many nauseating habits. They only thing that really sets the Nazis apart is that they came along late enough in history, with enough technology and advancement, that they could enact their nasty habits on a scale that these older civilizations could'nt match, just as their armies, their cities, and so forth, were correspondingly bigger. Furthermore, their evil deeds still pale in comparsion to the Soviets, and nobody has a fit about using Soviet stuff do they?

I say this, while being, myself, totally disgusted by the sexist stance of National Socialism, which, is, in my opinion a total betrayal of the ancient Germanic heritage they claimed to uphold, among other things.

(I miight add though, that, despite being total pigs in the way they treated women, they treated them a lot better than almost ANY of the celebrated ancient civilizations like Romans, Greeks (except maybe Spartans), etc.)

I do not advocate them, nor do I pretend that they did not enact evil on a great scale, but let us be realistic and historically objective, shall we? There are few absolutes amongst humans, very little black and white, pure examples of good and evil. Evrery civilxation and culture has been a shade of grey, and it would behoove us to bear that in mind.

By the way, I agree with BadRonald's stance that there is no need for a Nazi era flag. That spanned a mere twelve years of Germany's history, and everything they did and accomplished was certainly built upon older foundations. (For example, contrary to popular belief, the Nazis' contribution to the German military was practically nil, the mighty Wehrmacht having been fashioned, in all the ways that mattered on the battlefield, by the German General Staff in the very liberal and intellectual traditions of Scharnhorst and the Reformers. If anything, the Nazis ran the German military into the ground with all their duplication of function in the Luftwaffe and SS, Hitler's absurd strategic concpets and operational meddling, and so forth.) Their flag thus is hardly representative of Germany as a civilization. Frederick the Great and Bismarck really built Germany as we know it. The Nazis just inherited the family car, so to speak, polished it up, tuned it up, and then crashed it.

Hello,

I have a problem with this mod. It works fine with a generated map. But as soon as i try to use a customized map that has been modified before with the Worldbuilder, I don't see the new flags at all.
Could it be that Worldbuilder stores the colors and flags of each player in the map file? How can I solve this issue?

Any idea?

Thanks
Houman

I tried it with different maps. All the realism World maps have the same problem. The old color and flags seem to be stored in the map file. But if I start a new game from a generated map, eveything is fine. :( How can this be?

Anyone else with this experience please?

Thanks
Houman

Expansion pack is now up in the first post :) .

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@Cortilein,

Thank you for your translation of the German article, ... I included the red, white, and black tricolor because it fits best with Bismark and the German civ color (gray). However, the modern German flag is now an option in the expansion pack, so I hope this satisfies everyone ;).


German history can be a little bit "complicated" at times. The black-white-red flag, the prussian king used after forcing the german states to form an empire under prussian leadership was NOT the thing the 19th century revolutioniaries (that had used the black-red-golden flag) had hoped for. It represents a political system that is centralized, militaristic, imperialistic, nationalist and supressive.
Black-white-red is Bismarck's flag though, that's right. So it is the obvious choice for a civ, that is represented by him. He's more prussian than german however. Personally I don't know, why Firaxis has chosen him and/or Frederik as leaders. Most of german history took part, when prussian people did not even speak german properly.

..., , they do bear remarkable similarity to the Roman habit of enslaving peoples who fought against them, or for example, Roman behaviour during the whole Bodicea episode in Britain, which was utterly sordid from beginning to end. But nobody goes around saying the Romans had no redeeming qualities, do they? And the Aztecs and Incas and their sacrifices? The Athenian habit of feeding female children less, and giving them grossly inferior education? The Chinese and their infanticide, and mutilation of women's feet? The Arabs and North African Moslems (Like the Mali), and their female circumcision? Yet we call these great civilzations, and put them in these games because of the things they did accomplish, in spite of their many nauseating habits. They only thing that really sets the Nazis apart is that they came along late enough in history, with enough technology and advancement, that they could enact their nasty habits on a scale that these older civilizations could'nt match, just as their armies, their cities, and so forth, were correspondingly bigger. Furthermore, their evil deeds still pale in comparsion to the Soviets, and nobody has a fit about using Soviet stuff do they? ...

The thing that sets them apart is, that they are a political party, not a civilization. A political party of individuals, that got elected and tried to change the system that elected them (e.g. western civilization). They did suceed on a national scale, altering the political system, that gave them power, but they had to change the whole world, to be able to stay in power. These people lost their war against ideas, e.g. western civilization, that threatened their power. The point is: They tried to be something different than Germany. But they failed. That is the difference to any group of people promoting any kind of ideas and succeeding, thus forming a line of tradition, that is called a civilization in a cultural-historical context.
They did have an impact, however. People were forced to say no to many of their ideas. Had they only had ideas, that are implemented in today's laws and constitutions, they would not have lost (or fought) that war.

PS There is no deed that is evil. And if you choose to call it evil, how can it be pale? - How can death be pale? How can agony be pale?

Black-white-red is Bismarck's flag though, that's right. So it is the obvious choice for a civ, that is represented by him. He's more prussian than german however. Personally I don't know, why Firaxis has chosen him and/or Frederik as leaders. Most of german history took part, when prussian people did not even speak german properly.

Prussian and German certainly aren;t identical things, however, I think that their choice of leaders does make sense. Frederick the Great set the stage for German unification. The military reputation he created during his reign, and even the military-state he managed to consolidate, became a rallying point for Germans against French aggression and domination. In his own era, he became the only state with the military might to defeat the French. With Rossbach (1757), his Prussia became something of a leader amongst the northern protestant German states, excepting Hanover, which was tied to England by their common ruler. In the Napoleonic era, Prussia's army allowed it to assume the role on a broader scale. The only alternative to a leader amongst the German states was Austria, which as becomeing weaker and less German steadily through the 19th century.

And of course, Bismarck's Prussia unified Germany, perhaps not in the best, most ideal manner, but unified it nonetheless. (And show me a national unification that was done in an ideal manner.)

The point is: They tried to be something different than Germany. But they failed. That is the difference to any group of people promoting any kind of ideas and succeeding, thus forming a line of tradition, that is called a civilization in a cultural-historical context.
They did have an impact, however. People were forced to say no to many of their ideas. Had they only had ideas, that are implemented in today's laws and constitutions, they would not have lost (or fought) that war.

PS There is no deed that is evil. And if you choose to call it evil, how can it be pale? - How can death be pale? How can agony be pale?

Yes, your points are well made. Only the chance of history discriminates between "civilization" and cultural/politival movement.

I do think it is possible to consider "degree of evil' as a matter of scale, at least, and possibly the amount to which any action could be seen to have beneficial effects as well. Ie, killing 100 people could be called "more evil" than killing 10, assuming all other aspects of the situation equal. Or, for example, killing someone to save someone else or prevent some disaster, vs killing someone for personal gain or no reason.

But I agree 100%. Good and evil are very subjective things. If more people bore that in mind in historical discussions, and stuck to what happened, rather than making value judgements about those events, there would be a lot more productive and educational history discussions going on in the world.

Great job really looks good

I found the color in civ4 is not so clear, I like to use color in civ3, how can I do? does anyone give some suggestion?

[QUOTE=bad_ronald]Well, I like the modern Greek flag, but if you post a suggestion for a specific Greek flag from an earlier period I may add it as an option in the expansion pack.

I hope the upload worked an the flags appear an proper order.
The first one is the Greek Macedonia flag.
the second is the Greek byzantine flag

I found this internet site that talks about ancient flags and symbols.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gr_ancgr.html

@Renobe,

Thanks for links, the Macedonian Greek flag seems like a good option to include in a new expansion pack, if it's from the time of Alexander.

Just out of curiosity, have you any plans as yet to make a hanging flag version of the mod? :)

Also, will you be updating the mod for version 1.61? They renamed Mao, so it comes up with an error message when you load it.

I love the mod, by the way. Having thought about how to change the colours of a civilization for a long time it was a great relief to find, hey, someone's done it for me. :D

Also, will you be updating the mod for version 1.61? They renamed Mao, so it comes up with an error message when you load it.

That's probably due to an error with old mods. I have done a clean re-install and patched to 1.61 and Mao and Communism are still in the game, same as before.

The mod is causing an error for me too, after a clean reinstall with 1.61 (which worked fine before the mod). Says this:

Tag: LEADER_MAO_ZEDONG in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

Tag: BUILDINGCLASS_FORBIDDEN_PALACE in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

Tag: BUILDINGCLASS_THREEGORGESDAM in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

then starts normally, without using the modified flags.

The mod is causing an error for me too, after a clean reinstall with 1.61 (which worked fine before the mod). Says this:

Tag: LEADER_MAO_ZEDONG in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

Tag: BUILDINGCLASS_FORBIDDEN_PALACE in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

Tag: BUILDINGCLASS_THREEGORGESDAM in Info class was incorrect
Current XML file is: Civilizations/CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml

then starts normally, without using the modified flags.

I was getting the same thing, so I edited the part in Bad_ronald's xml that referenced those tags to look like the default file, no more errors and the flags load fine.

The new161 xml file has practically no Buildings or units listed in that particular file and MAO was changed to CHINESE_LEADER. It was a simple edit.

Here is my modified CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml, which works now.
However, I expected this to work with Lock Modified Assets (as required for HoF), since it's just a graphical thing, but it doesn't.
Maybe there are other differences in the XML file compared to 1.61?
If someone gets it to work, please post!

Excellent mod, thanks Ronald.

I think your idea for a British mod has some merit, you should try it out. Personally, (being a Scotsman) i felt insulted that you could only play the "English" empire, this is unfair as Scots (& Irish & Welsh) have played a massive part of the developement of the British empire. Although its nice to play the modded Scottish, Welsh & Irish i find it hard to swallow when im dominating the world.

& the redcoats look cool with the union jack..

Would also be good to see a Russian Soviet flag & Nazi Flag, everybody knows the connotations but we are all adults right :/

I (as an Englishman) would also like to play as Britain, though I like the idea of playing as England and then having a "permenant alliance" with Scotland which is largely what happened (and getting together and battering the Celts perhaps??? No offence intended to any Welse or Irish on here). Weren't the first Redcoat Regiment the Scots Guards?

Oh, and the flag of the UK is the Union Flag, the Union Jack is the flag of the Royal Navy, but that's just being pedantic.

I'm not certain, but didn't Germany keep their flag through the NAZI era, and fly the swastika alongside it? Create Adolf as an additional leader for Germany if you want to go all the way. The likes of Genghis Khan and Julius Caesar had just as bad human rights records, but I think the fact the Hitler was within living memory possibly makes it a little sensitive.

I was getting the same thing, so I edited the part in Bad_ronald's xml that referenced those tags to look like the default file, no more errors and the flags load fine.

The new161 xml file has practically no Buildings or units listed in that particular file and MAO was changed to CHINESE_LEADER. It was a simple edit.
This fixed it for me as well. As Tae said, Mao is named CHINESE_LEADER in the 1.61 file. Three Gorges Dam is GREAT_DAM, I believe, and the Forbidden Palace is GREAT_PALACE. On those last two, the "_" may or may not be there, but if you look in the file at the appropriate places, you can find them pretty easily.

And although I have been using these colors and flags for a while, I will say great job now. :thumbsup:

Great work, I've used some of these in my own mod. Took me bloody ages to get it to work until I finally realised my mistake, I'd spelled Colour correctly instead of the American way in the XML file!

In 1603 Elizabeth I died without direct heirs. Her cousin James VI (not VII) ascended the throne of England to become James I.

The two countries remained separate until the the Act of Union (1707) during the reign of Queen Anne. It was at this point that the Union FLAG, combining the saltire of St. Andrew and the cross of St. George , was devised.

Only when flown on sea-going vessels are flags referred to as "jacks".

The red and white saltire of St. Patrick was added to the Union FLAG in 1801 due to the 1801 Act of Union that united the United Kindom of Great Britain with Ireland. At this point the country became known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

This remained in place until 1921 when after years of treasonable revolution (included the utterly vile and despicable Easter Rising of 1916) 26 of the 32 counties of Ireland were permitted to withdraw from the Union. These 26 counties became known as the Irish Free State. The six remaining loyal counties became, and still are, known as Northern Ireland. The country was renamed to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". This is the name that remains today; it is the longest official country name in the world. The form of the Union FLAG did not change, and remains as it was modified in 1801.

As a side note: the 6 counties of Northern Ireland are sometimes, erroneously, referred to as "Ulster". Ulster is one of the four ancient kingdoms of Ireland (the others being Munster, Leinster and Connaught) and it comprises 9 of the 32 counties (Antrim, Down, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Armagh, Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan). The first six in the list comprise Northern Ireland, the last three are part of what is now known as the "Republic of Ireland".

Clear as crystal?


What he said.

I think it's interesting that the cross of Saint Patrick remians in the Union Flag, since Northern Ireland took as it's flag the Cross Of St George, with the addition of the "Red Hand" of Ulster:

http://www.flagfocus.info/worldflags-large/flag-Ireland-Northern-Unoff.gif

thus the Cross Of St Patrick is still represented, even though none of the nations that make up the United Kingdom fly it as their flag. Whereas the Cross Of St David (patron saint of Wales), a vertical-horizontal gold cross on a black background, is not represented. On the other hand St Patric IS Enlgish, which is more than can be said for St George, who never went to England and quite pissibly didn't even know where England was.

Great Union Flag by the way, taking the top as the flag pole, it's even the right way up! (The Union Flag should only ever be flow upside down as a sign of emergency)

Here is my modified CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml, which works now.
However, I expected this to work with Lock Modified Assets (as required for HoF), since it's just a graphical thing, but it doesn't.
Maybe there are other differences in the XML file compared to 1.61?
If someone gets it to work, please post!

There are changes to Leader stats for a couple of things, but nothing major.

- in ArtDefinesLeader XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosLeaders XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change _THREEGORGESDAM to _GREAT_DAM
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change _FORBIDDEN_PALACE to _GREAT_PALACE
- in UnitsInfo XML, change TECH_COMMUNISM to TECH_UTOPIA

There are changes to Leader stats for a couple of things, but nothing major.

- in ArtDefinesLeader XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosLeaders XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change MAO_ZEDONG to CHINESE_LEADER
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change _THREEGORGESDAM to _GREAT_DAM
- in CivInfosCivilizations XML, change _FORBIDDEN_PALACE to _GREAT_PALACE
- in UnitsInfo XML, change TECH_COMMUNISM to TECH_UTOPIA
Ok, that just confused the heck out of me :confused:.

Great mod ronald. Only one question, is there any way to change Germany to a darker grey? As in me go in and change it, not referring to changing your mod on here.

EDIT: Also to add, I think it would be nice to see a "New England" flag for Aemerica with the 13 stars. I think this flag would fit the playstyle of the game better as it would be hard to make 50 cities. (states) :p

EDIT#2: I currently reinstalled the game because this mod jerked Mao out and it seems the only solution is changing him to CHINESE_LEADER which I don't want to do. I went in today and assigned new border colors to alot of the civs and found a system I like with them. The problem is, now they are all white like others have listed. Has anyone found a solution to the all white flag problem? I found a post reffering to editing in a black alpha using DXTBmp. I tried that and it didnt work. Could anyone explain how the alpha is effecting this or offer a solution to the all white flags?

The only other mod I run is blue marble. Also, I am pretty sure that the flags showing up will not be bothered if I use my own CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml, CIV4PlayerColorInfos.xml, and CIV4ColorVals.xml files. Am I right in assuming this?

EDIT#3: My fix:I found a fix for mine it may help other as well. I have attached a blank flag template with an alpha channel that worked for me. Just use DXTBmp to open the blank template provided by Amra in a similar problem thread. Then open the flag you wish to use of ronald's and click to edit the actual flag in MSPAINT or whatever program you use. Then copy the flag pattern and paste it into the blank flag template. Voila. I hope this helps anyone with white flags. :goodjob: Thanks Amra.

hi guys, I run patch v.1.61 and I can't find a way to apply this mod! I've checked and seen that Mao's name is Chinese leader and all, but still no luck..I keep on getting error messages about incorrect xml tags etc..Can anyone provide a full working pack for v.1.61? I don't think it's too hard...I would have done it myself if only i was certain what to mess :lol: Please take care of it.. Thanks

First of all, LOOKS GREAT.

Next, will this work on w/ the latest patch?

Also, any chance the new expansion Civs will get their updated flags?

Hi, I installed the first set of custom flags as per the instructions and they all work fine.
I then installed the expansion pak flags as the instructions said, but when i start a new game, all the expansion flags are solid colors. Russia was a black flag, Germany was a yellow flag etc... Any help?

Damon

First of all, LOOKS GREAT.

Next, will this work on w/ the latest patch?

Also, any chance the new expansion Civs will get their updated flags?

anyone? ......

Try this for now. It has new flags for the new Civs:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=179801

Any news from Ronald regarding a Warlords update?

Hi, I installed the first set of custom flags as per the instructions and they all work fine.
I then installed the expansion pak flags as the instructions said, but when i start a new game, all the expansion flags are solid colors. Russia was a black flag, Germany was a yellow flag etc... Any help?

Damon

Hello, I am having the same exact problem. I installed the first set of flags, and works like a charm for all civs, however when i install the expansion pack, the select countries flags are all yellow for me, followed all the instructions in the zip file.

would appreciate any help
thanks

I like these flags and use them until today. But I found I can't find teh same buttons, where can I get button with same picture as flag?

Hey.

Love the mod - use the Union Jack for my england games. But I absolutely hate the dark red colour for england's borders. how can i change it back to white?

thanks guys.

-matt.

@mattalton88

1.
you have to copy the xml-file "Civilization (Warlords) / assets / xml / civilizations / CIV4CivilizationInfos" into your "customassets / xml / civilizations" folder.

2.
open the file "CIV4CivilizationInfos"

3.
search the part with england
there is the line "<DefaultPlayerColor>PLAYERCOLOR_RED</DefaultPlayerColor>"

change it into "<DefaultPlayerColor>PLAYERCOLOR_WHITE</DefaultPlayerColor>"

4.
search for the nation which has originally player color WHITE and change it the same way into RED

5.
save the changes before you close the "CIV4CivilizationInfos" file.

by this way you have changed the colors of the two nations

hope i could help you. sorry for my bad english.....

danke, my friend. thanks very much.

G'day again,

I don't really like the new Japanese flag. How do I change it back to the old one?

Thanks,

Matt.

Hi again!

1.
Follow the folder: "Civ4 / Custom assets / art / Interface / teamcolor"
There you can see the "japan.dds" file. Delete it!

2.
Folder: "Civ4 / assets/ xml / art / CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization"
Go to Japan. Copy the line "<Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_Dot.dds</Path>"

3.
Move to the folder "Civ4 / custom assets/ xml /art / CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization"
Now replace the "<Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/Japan.dds</Path>" with the line you have copied before.

4.
Change the line below the "<Path...." line from "<bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag>" into "<bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag>"

5. Save the changes

Now you should have the original Japan-flag again!

Any chance to get a version that will work with BTS? I'd really like to use your flags. Thanks! - Jim

Hello people.

I have provided a Mod comparable with Bad Ronald's Mod which is based on the present Bad Ronald's Mod and can be used for vanilla BTS v3.13 and Varietas Delectat v3.5

You can see screenshots and download the mod here:

KingKong's Flags and Colours Mod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=268077)