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gonzo_for_civ
Jan 06, 2002, 12:03 AM
Currently we have 4/5 positions filled. Here are the specs:

- America
- Standard Map
- 5 total civs
- Chieftain
- 12 hour turn bypass limit
- 48 hour per turn playing limit
- All victories
- 25 civ turns per each possesion(turn) before 1 AD
- 20 in between 1 AD and 1700 AD
- 15 after that

Even though 60 hours are available per turn (12 for bypass + 48 for actual playing) please post the file as soon as you are done with a summary of what you did and the current state of the union. I'll go first, so follow my example. WE START ON TUESDAY!!!

E-mail SPIKEYSUNCLE@CS.COM to be notified on the next succession game I start!

No more openings left. Oh yeah, I'm on Mountain Time.

311
Jan 06, 2002, 09:23 AM
ill join this game, this is only my 2nd succession game is it still ok?

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 06, 2002, 12:27 PM
Okay 311, i took you off my list. Including you and 3october we had 5 people, including me. Therefore, all spots we're filled. Now, however we have 1 opening.

If you are visiting this thread and would like me to notify you of the next succession game when it starts send me an e-mail.
SPIKEYSUNCLE@CS.COM

Turn order is as follows:
1: gonzo_for_civ
2: charliehoke
3: Ripley
4: 6october
5: ????????

6october
Jan 06, 2002, 12:33 PM
Gonzo ,
I sent you mail to include me .BTW this is my first SG.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 06, 2002, 12:54 PM
Okay, since this is a succession game with a few beginners(that was it's whole purpose) I will explain here the general rules of succession games.

A succession game is basically a game that is passed around. Each person takes some turns and passes it on to the next person. If you cannot take your turn, notify me by way of e-mail or by posting on this thread(which sends me an e-mail). Our beginning turns(before 1AD) will be 25 turns long. Between 1AD and 1700AD turns will be 20 turns long. And after that, it's 15 on out. After your turn is up, promptly post the save file(in zip format[WinZip downloadable at WinZip.com]) to a new post on this thread which also contains a summary of what happened during your reign. The following must be included: Any new civs found, any new cities founded, settlers built, science/luxories rate changes, and any diplomatic stance changes. You are encouraged to include as much as you can about your reign but that is all that is required. At the beginning of your turn, you just download and unzip the file to the c:\prog files\infogrames\civ III\saves\ folder on your computer and then have fun and play.

P.S. please download the v1.16f patch(you can find it on this site and firaxis' site)

P.S.S if any of this doesn't work with you or your schedule let me know so we can work with you.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 07, 2002, 07:23 PM
Greetings all and welcome to the official beginning of the American Succession game started by gonzo_for_civ(me). This game is also to be known as GFC1(not a spinoff of LK_ but i was feeling really unoriginal and wanted a name that can be easily sequeled.(sp?)) So, with that, turn order is already listed. Everyone takes 25 turns starting with me. I will post in a few hours. Remember, when you download the game for your turn, post a message saying that you are playing so we don't skip your turn. ;)

I have already posted turn order and will send an e-mail to anyone who is not taking their turn as a friendly reminder in case you are not subscribed to this thread. Plus, we need to decide on a path of victory. We can pretty much get anything but I am leaning towards something non-cultural. Please post your opinion soon so we can gear this game accordingly.:)

Well, until 25 turns are up, I guess I'm :king:

Oh yeah, try to be real descriptive in your summaries early on.:)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 07, 2002, 08:19 PM
Im done, take it away charliehoke. Got your post on the jap board so if you can't do it tonight get it done when u can. We won't skip you since it's the first time around and the start date was advanced by a day. We are in a pretty good starting position. I found a settler in a hut so we have 2 cities and 1 settler in position to build a 3rd which will be up to you. New york is in the process of settler building. 2 scouts are rapidly discovering terrain. We've got furs.:goodjob:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 07, 2002, 08:21 PM
SUmmary is coming real soon!:lol: :mad: :cry: :goodjob: :goodjob: :king: :confused: :eek: :p :cool:

Snaproll
Jan 07, 2002, 08:23 PM
Ok I've got it! I'll try my best to finish tonight, but I might not be able to until tomorrow night. I'm going to wait for the summary too, of course:)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 07, 2002, 09:09 PM
It's the year 4050BC. There are several restless nomads gathered together to elect a leader, well call him the King or the Despot. They will give him absolute rule. He is called Gonzo.

Gonzo accepts his call to power from the people. He pledges allegience to them, and they pledge allegiance to him. He can see lots of land from his lookout spot on top of the hill. He sees a courier approaching.

"Master! - we have located building grounds for Washington, near the river"

"You have done well, courier, you are promoted to scout and named Hermit, in honor of the speedy god Hermes(which wasn't yet invented by the greeks at this time), you will go east and find new lands for the expansion of the royal kingdom."

4000 B.C. After consultation with the royal courier-scout Hermit, a group of settlers is moved off of the hills of their heritage, to the lush green paradise that awaits them. Hermit travels east, and reports the discovery of a coast. The remaining citizens form a worker group and head to mine grasslands which will benefit Washington 50 years later, when it is founded.

3950 B.C. Washington is founded. The people rejoice and begin to train strong military brutes known as warriors as the workers build a road for the benefit of money. Hermit moves up the coast for the sake of exploration.

3900 B.C. Our scientists begin work on a technology which will enable the building of temples, we shall call it Ceremonial Burial. Hermit heads north to find a river.

3850 B.C. Hermit moved up the coast. Our workers have announced the completion of a road for the benefit of the civilization and begin to mine.

3800 B.C. Hermit gained vast grounds in an effort to find lands in which to build a new settlement. No major landmark sitings reported.

3750 B.C. Hermit continued to explore our vast continent.

3700 B.C. Workers complete a mine and move to build a road to the fine furs located N of Washington. The furs will be usable when the culture of Washington can expand to include them in our borders. We have built a strong contingent of warriors in Washington. After careful consideration, a scout is started since a settler would waste 5 turns at the end before completion.

3650 B.C. A possible future city site is discovered NE of Washington.

3600 B.C. Hermit discovers a tribe of ancient peoples, they have no knowledge to share but instead join our tribe in the form of a settler.

3550 B.C. Our strong warriors are ordered home so our scout unit can perform it's intended job.

3500 B.C. Hermit reports the sighting of what may be several land bridges to another world.

3450 B.C. Our scouts find good city land close to Washington in the SE.

3400 B.C. Hermit reports that the land bridges are simply inland sea squares, and are not a passage to another land. Just some deserts.

3350 B.C. Fur road complete, the people rejoice.[party] :jump: :hammer: [dance] :goodjob:[party]
New York founded and is producing a set of settlers to expand the empire.

3300 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work.

3250 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work again.

3200 B.C. Our great explorers discover a prime city site W of Washington

3150 B.C. NW of washington, Hermit discovered a large cluster of ivory and a hut.

3100 B.C. As our scientists discovered Ceremonial Burial, our scouts received a warrior conscript for free. Alphabet was the next elected advance.

3050 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work again.

3000 B.C. Washington built a settler and started one of these new temple structures. Toynbee has announced America as the happiest civilization on the planet!

2950 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work again.

2900 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work.

2850 B.C. Our great explorers continued their work.

2800 B.C. Our settler is in position to build a city. That will have to be decided by the next ruler, as gonzo has been assassinated by angry ants.:arrow:

Snaproll
Jan 07, 2002, 11:16 PM
I have finished the game and will post it. I don't have time for the write up, but it seems we are virtually alone on an entire continent. We gained four techs through goody huts, and all I did was build settlers in order to claim this vast land.

:king:

Snaproll
Jan 07, 2002, 11:17 PM
Here is the game - commentary tomorrow!

Ripley
Jan 08, 2002, 05:46 AM
Downloaded :goodjob:

I shall await the commentary before I begin. :p

Snaproll
Jan 08, 2002, 08:14 AM
Here I go! Sorry about the delay.

2800: As I take the reigns, My advisors approach to enlighten me on the state of affairs. The are great tracts of habitable land extending in all directions, with no other peoples spotted anywhere. Our foreign advisor is admonished harshly for lack of performance. Expansion is the name of the game - We must fill these lands before other find them! :king:

2750: The settler moves one more square to avoid overlapping with Washington. Alas, this takes them 50 years! :cry: The Teoihuican tribe in the extreme north teaches us to manufacture and distribute new weapons they call "bows". Unfortunately we have no adversaries on which to test them! The science rate is boosted as we have a fair treasury, and we will know learn the secrets of the alphabet a full 700 years earlier! :eek:

2710: Boston founded! Near grasslands and gold. Production set to warrior to provide a modicum of defense. :slay:

2670: More goody huts to the North. The Incan tribes teach us Bronze Working. Swords will soon be made :ninja:

2630: Amazingly, still no contact with other peoples! The Incan tribes teach us mysticism. :jesus: Looks like expansionist characteristic is paying off!

2590: Our scout reveals a coastline to the NE - do we own the entire island??

2550: Boston produces warrior, production set to settler.

2510: Jungles sighted in the extreme NE

2470: Exploring... slowly... :sleep:

2430: New York grows, production reallocated to expedite settler.

2390: Mining started near Boston (mining grasslands w/shields)

2350: More fertile lands discovered to the north. Can we claim entire island??

2310: More solitary tribesman located near NY. Spices found in the North :smoke:

2270: Settler produced in NY! Set to worker. The Navajo tribes teach us how to use wheels! Horses spotted north on Washington - Settler moving in that direction.

2230: Settling strategy: close to capitol to minimize corruption or far away to maximize expansion? :confused:

2190: Temple produced in Washington, set to settler. Our might road to Boston is complete.. more mining ordered.

2150: Alphabet researched. We can now express our monosyllabic mutterings as symbols. Writing ordered up (note: I think on further reflection we should do iron working so that we can settle near deposits - we might want to change this)

2110: Settler almost complete in Boston

2070: More horses found to the N, still to civ contact!

2030: CONTACT! An Iroquois scout is found north of NY. Our scout is redirected to cut off what seems to be a land bridge leading to them. If a choke point is found, our settler should be redirected to cut them off. These festering heathens have neither the wheel or masonry, and one fewer city then we do! We shall dominate them! :rocket:

So ends my reign. Until the last turn, I couldn't see any reason to do anything but spit out settlers. Now that we have contact, our tactics might change. Good Luck!

Ripley
Jan 08, 2002, 09:39 AM
Prologue

And so it came to pass that in the year 2030 BC a great leader passed away. Our new President has decreed that a city shall be named in his honour. The people approved and their was much rejoicing throughout the land. But there is still much work to be done. An empire must be forged, and our tiny nation has turned once again to their toils.

1790 BC - The Chehalis tribe has taught us horse riding.

1700 BC - We have met a people who call themselves English. We do not know where their camp is of yet.

1600 BC - Philadelphia has been founded on a hill, next to a river, near the horselands to the north. We have also discovered a band of savages. These barbarians attacked our settlers as they headed north. Our President was wise to hold back the settlers until an armed escort arrived. Two settler now continue north under escort. There are more of these barbarians blocking our second scout at the landbridge. They will be dealt with. Additional warriors have been dispatched.

1550 BC - We have found the Iroquie settlement. I suspect that the English are our nearest neighbour as their warrior scout has moved with our own.

1450 BC - Charliston has been founded on grazing lands by a river, far to the north, named in honour of our previous ruler. This was decreed by our President.

1425 BC - We have perfected writing. Our wise men have been ordered to improve our weaponry. They speak of something called iron.

1400 BC - The road to New York is finished. We shall build one to Philadelphia next. Our warriors must have horses. The city of Chicago has been founded near Charliston, next the spice fields. We must garrison strong forces in these cities.

1350 BC - Seattle has been founded to the north west.

1325 BC - Charliston was attacked by more barbarians, but our forces stood strong. This seemed to please our people and they offered to improve the royal palace. And so shall it be. A meeting ground of grass and fine paving has been laid.

1275 BC - We have destroyed the barbarians camp near the landbridge and our second scout shall now proceed to map the areas to the north east. There may be more barbarians to the east of Charliston. Another settler is heading out under escort toward the ivory. Seattle is without protection but a warrior is being trained in Boston as we speak. Chicago and Charliston show dangerous signs of corruption. Washington is still without protection. The population is too low in our cities to prepare more settlers at the moment.

Epilogue

A sad day has come. Our ruler has passed away, and our search begins for another. Word has spread amongst the people of a great warrior named 311, and he has been summoned by the elders to lead our people.

We are blessed with a fine land in which to build our empire, and we shall grow strong.

Sidenote

Civ 3 crashed on me at 1500 BC. First time ever. :cry:

Maximum hyperlinks exceeded? :confused:

Moved back one auto save and continued. :)

Padma
Jan 08, 2002, 09:41 AM
As an outside observer, my advice would be to SETTLE! SETTLE, SETTLE, SETTLE!:)

Take advanatge of the expansionist attribute - you can see where the best sites are before anybody else. And don't ignore the 'marginal' sites. Be sure to settle either next to or even right in hills, swamps, deserts. (Settling right in desert/swamp is a non-optimal choice, of course, but sometimes must be done.) Why? these are places you will see strategic resources pop up - iron, saltpeter, coal, rubber, etc. (I mention the 'obvious' because this is a beginners' game, after all. :D )

After a few more towns are established, you may want to stress military units in some of them. After all, you want to defend what you've got.:lol: Yes, it can be a delicate balance: military/culture/settlers.

And that's a good point about settling in a choke point, if one exists. Just be aware that if the Iraquois are closer to it than Washington is, you will have to pump it with culture while fighting corruption (caused by distance from capital) to try to keep it from flipping to the Iraquois. (OK, on Chieftan level these things aren't as bad as they are on higher levels, but they're still important to remember.)

Anyway, it looks like you guys have made a real good start!:goodjob:

Ripley
Jan 08, 2002, 01:28 PM
:goodjob:

Snaproll
Jan 08, 2002, 01:39 PM
A city named in my honor!!!:D I've never been so honored in all my life. Thank you!:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 08, 2002, 05:23 PM
Well, after 3 leaders have taken control of our empire. The current strategy is still rapid expansion. I reccomend that we continue this until we claim most of this continent. That's good that we have contact with other civs. I kept looking with 2 scouts but never found anyone.:( Let's keep up the good work.

P.S. it is the decree of the moderator of this game that we establish a maximum of 1 city named in honor of someone. This is so that the game doesn't become a race to name cities for yourself(I have seen that). Until then, keep naming them. Way to go charliehoke, only 75 total turns have passed and you already have a city named in your honor:)

6october
Jan 08, 2002, 05:38 PM
I was surprised to see all these events took place in such a short time , I was even worried that my turn has passed . But I am glad that the famous warrior 311 will jump to the throne yet.:egypt:

I think we should focus on finding the english and iriqui settlments then establish our settling strategy to corner them and gain the rest of the continent to our selves:king:

still we need to develop our army just in case.

do you think its time for some wonder in washington?

any way its uo to the rightfull heir 311 to decide :D

may his rule be prosprus for our people.

BTW please do forgive my spelling. I am so lousy in that area :)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 08, 2002, 08:06 PM
Ok, it has come time for us to discuss our opinions about a certain topic. The topic is what type of victory will we strive for and what is to become of our recently discovered neighbors??
I want everyone to respond to this post with your opinion so this decision can be a group agreement. :)

What type of victory to strive for?: I am thinking probably conquest/domination or maybe space race. I have pretty much ruled out culture but if 2 or more people still want it I will be forced to reconsider. What do you guys think?

What is to become of our recently discovered neighbors?: DEATH!!!!!!!!:ak47: :skull: :flamedevi :arrow:
I think that we should expand up and then rush them with all the forces we can muster, they cannot be allowed to sneak in. If we take them both out, our beginning lead will last the whole game guranteed. So lets have a little fun, soon.:) :nuke:

UPDATE: we have reached page 2 on this thread. YAY!!!!

Snaproll
Jan 08, 2002, 08:09 PM
I have to admit that I'm in general pretty peaceful in my games, so I wouldn't mind trying for domination/conquest as well!

6october
Jan 09, 2002, 07:59 AM
I think that we have a good chance for a domoiation victory.
If we choose space race I think we will have to keep the world up in tech so we can trade and discover techs faster. We will have to be peacefull and maybe give some techs for free to use the computers research to our benifit later.

I think this game would be more enjoyable if its domination.
but we need to only kill civilisations after 1 AD or they will respawn.

Ripley
Jan 09, 2002, 04:26 PM
It appears that we are on a continent with only the English and the Iroquois. I suspect that once the landbridge area is fully sealed, we will have secured the majority of it. Conquest of our particular continent should not be a problem.

However, this means that somewhere on the map, there are two other civs being left to their own devices. Looking at the lower left of screen suggests that they will have a very large land mass to themselves and we may find ourselves with some very powerful neighbours (in both military and culture) the time we are in a position to expand further (beyond our continent).

As such, I believe that we MUST crush our more immediate neighbours at the earliest opportunity. This is why I chose ironworking before mapmaking. We will need to try to build the gl so we can get a look at the other two civs before anyone else (and keep them from our shores), but we don't want to leave ourselves short on military.

Sooooooo, I tend to agree with either conquest/domination or space race. UN or histograph is rather lame IMHO, and space race is the only victory (other than histograph) that I have ever had. Which means that conquest/domination gets my vote. As long as we keep pumping techs, that shouldn't be a problem.

BTW, the Iroquois scout that has been running around is cause for concern. I think they will be coming at us first, before the English. Maybe we should engineer a war between them? :D

Has 311 downloaded yet?

311
Jan 09, 2002, 05:37 PM
ok im doing it now sorry it took so long school startin back up and all blah blah

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 09, 2002, 07:46 PM
Earlier today I read a post in another game me and 311 are both involved in. Apparently, with all that is going on currently, 311 does not have the time to continue this game. I am not sure whether or not he is finishing this turn so I will email him shortly to find out.

311<-- Goodbye :( If you change your mind, please return!

Snaproll
Jan 10, 2002, 09:13 AM
I can't keep straight who's turn it is. We need to get moving! :D

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 02:02 PM
is it my turn then :D

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 04:14 PM
Take it away 6october! It looks like 311 is gone for now. So the turn is now 6october's.

Turn order is as follows for the time being!

1: gonzo_for_civ
2: charliehoke
3: Ripley <-- Playing
4: 6october

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 04:24 PM
Good and bad news uptil now
Good new found iron near washington but the bad news is its just outside our territory
the iriquis have it just by Niagra falls. Found the first parts of the english settlment.

anyways the rest will come with the turn summary.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 04:33 PM
Good job 6october. It's good to be moving again. I would like to apoligize for not responding to the matter in a more appropriate time. I have been busy. The turn order posted will stay until we can find a 5th player. I have busily been searching. Thanks. :)

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 06:20 PM
As the American people wait for the famous warrior 311 to claim his throne, the warrior decides to give his life to studying the sciences that may lead the American empire to advance over all the other civilizations of the world.
So it came to be that a simple man like 6october came to the throne. Born on 6 th of october 1250 Bc he was chosen by elders for his wisdom, courage and for paying them handsom sums of gold from the furs that he controlled in washington.

following is the recollection of his reign:

Once elected for leadership he travelled across all our cities changing some production orders that he saw fit. he insisted to the governord that they must garrison their cities.
" we must protect the people and our coffers" he said to them
He started immediatly a great project that would connect our most northen city charleston to the rest of our empire. alas that project would last for most of his long reign.

1275 BC A settler group of pioneers were sent to lands far away in the east where elephants with very nice looking white ivory lived

1225 BC cheif 6october ordered a temple to be constructed in charleston as he saw it would be a border city in the future and must spread the american way to the rest of the wotld

1175 BC our brave explorers found borders of the english people settlments
Our brave warrior groups patrolling the west coast met barbarians

1125 BC After washington got a good garrison the pyramids were started to show the world we are a great nation
our scientists set on discovering polythesim so that we may soon be able to discover how cheifs can keep their families in rule !!
Iron was discovered near washington but alas too far from our territory to mine. so a plan was set to expand our borders to reach the iron.

1075 BC our warriors in the east coast finish the barbarian tribes and get some of their loot

1050 BC Notthing really happened cheif 6october got married

1025 BC London of the English was discovered byour brave scouting party

1000 BC forest were cutnear newyork to hurry temple production. we need to expand our territory in that area to get iron
Our scouting party near the iriqouis has fallen into a barbarian trap
the City of atalanta was founded on midth of elefant herds.

975 BC Iriqouis waariors save our scouting party . their leader was given one gold as a gift. a project to get a road to Atalanta was started

950 BC NOtthing really except cheif 6october made a tour of the cities

925 BC worker managment takes a lot of cheif 6octobers time

900 BC- 875 BC cheif 60ctober is worried about the corruption in most of our cities. they are very far away from his palace. he says to his advisors " we need to build another palace and that needs a miracle with the corruption in the far away cities. we must get out of the people a general who can accomplish such a task. but we will never get a general with peace so we must plan to fight "
he was thinking of fighting the backward english people but the needed a plan
1- discover their lands
2- built an army that can do it. we cannot keep supply lines when the english are so far
3- finish them off completly at 1 AD so they wont reappear

he estimated the army should be completed in aroun 600 years * phew *

uptil then he planned on building cities nearer to his capital so the governors wont have a chance to get so corrupted.

850 bc a settler group from boston was sent to a fertile land in the south of our continent

750 bc one of our archer groups who were sent to the border defeated barbarians. they were not promoted

710 BC Sanfransisco built in fertile lands to the south

670 BC our wise men discover Polythesim we have 7 gods now next they try to make maps

650 BC the cold leader of the English threaten us to leave their land . we tell them we shall leave for now

630 BC our culture in newyourk expands bit we still cant reach the iron hills . we need to finish the pyramids

610 BC Miami founded west of washington

6 october 590 BC our cheif dies after a long reign in which he did nothing really fantastic. however he helped built dome infrastructur for the american empire. we still need to connect miami, chicago and sanfransisco to our empire. he gave the people ivory . he discovered the land of the english. we have a scout discovering the land of the iriqouis then we have discovered the whole continent.
we have now 10 cities the english have 4 and the iriqouis have 2
we can get 5 to 6 cities built in the area before the land bridge.
send our army forces to mass at charleston then we can attack the english to get a gl hopefully and use him to build a forbiden palace probably in the east coast.


then

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 06:25 PM
lets hope it attaches well . this is my first go at sg guys so i am sorry if i am not doing so well . please tell me if I can do somethings diffrently.

:D

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 06:38 PM
Dowloaded, will play soon! Good job 6october!

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 06:45 PM
IMO we need to fill in the gaps b4 expanding across the land bridge so we wont have so much corruption

6october
Jan 10, 2002, 07:02 PM
I sent a worker to construct a road to the iron . I intended to build a colony to start building swordmen.

Good luck

Snaproll
Jan 10, 2002, 07:25 PM
Hi guys,

I got sent on a business trip so I can't play or post for the next few days, unless I can get online with my laptop. So unless I post again, you'll have to skip my turns. I'm very sorry! I'll try to get back online as soon as I can.

:(

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 08:31 PM
- Charliehoke, we will watch for your posts if you can. If not we will bypass you until you return.

- 6october, you are doing great, you have not done anything wrong. You are doing exceptional considering that this is your first succession game. Keep it up :) I will post the game in 1- 2 hours.

- To the whole team, let's keep up the great work:goodjob:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 09:23 PM
Here's the save, charliehoke, that means you are up :)

Turn order:
1. Gonzo_for_civ
2. charliehoke <-- playing soon
3. Ripley <-- On deck
4. 6october

Summary is real short and coming up next.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 10, 2002, 09:28 PM
I forgot, charliehoke is to be bypassed, Ripley, you're up!

Summary: (sorry it's not in story form but I have worked to much today and am fresh out of creativity)

570 - 190 BC - Houston founded. Iron secured. Units built. Map Making discovered. Building 1 more settler. Warrior made elite by babs. Attacked england and sacked York. More units on the way. Let's wipe 'em out.

That is really all that happened. Our cities were mainly producing things that didn't need to be changed. I started some expansion and raided the English but other than that, our Empire was already in a state of Pure Productivity. It was a great, but uneventful turn. Good luck Ripley, kill the English turd.

Ripley
Jan 11, 2002, 01:41 AM
Downloaded :goodjob:

Whoohoo! [dance] Page 3.

6october
Jan 11, 2002, 05:07 AM
We are on our way to finish of the English by 1 AD.
I noticed the irqouis warrior near our frontal borders, I think we are gonna need some embassy with the irqouis and keep them on our side of the war.

Also we can use our money to upgrade warriors to swordsmen for 40 gold." instant invinsible armys"

P.S. we can use our elite warrior to get a leader. *yaaaaaahoo*

GO Ripley :goodjob:

Ripley
Jan 11, 2002, 06:09 AM
With ill fate becoming the successor to the throne , the great General Gonzo has ordered the Son of Ripley to take his place, for he cannot lead both an army and a people. And so it is, in the year 170 AD, that a new ruler looks out over the small but mighty empire called America.

170 BC - We have begun researching construction.

150 BC - A settler has been produced in Charliston.

50 BC - The English city Hastings falls with the loss of one archer.

30 BC - Buffalo founded near Charliston. Charliston, Houston, Chicago and Buffalo are ordered to build temples. The English want peace. Silly Liz. :lol:

10 BC - The English city Nottingham falls. The English are pushed back to their capital. The Iroquois have been drawing back their forces. It appears that the mighty American people make them nervous.

50 AD - London has been captured and is now under our rule. It has been renamed in honour of the great General Gonzo. A temple is being constructed there as more forces rush to secure the area. The English leader was nowhere to be found. It appears she has escaped to rebuild her empire. Our forces are searching for her.

70 AD - Our people have completed a great project. We now have graneries in all our cities. Work has begun on the Oracle. The English have been found again. They have constructed a new capital south of the Iroquois settlement.

110 AD - We are now researching a new form of government, called Monarchy.

150 AD - Production in 3 cities has been returned to settlers.

190 AD - 3 of our people have died in accidents whilst building temples in Charliston and Houston. Thanks to their sacrifice, the temples will be finsihed very soon. Another settler now heads towards new pastures.

230 AD - Another settler heads out to green pastures. San Francisco, Seattle and Boston are now producing settlers at a fast rate. Gonzor is considered a good location for a second palace, though no decision has been made. The Great Lighthouse, The Colossus, and The great Wall are now available for building. No city has yet been given the required order.

A tradegy has occured! The new ruler has been struck down in his youth by a sudden accident. He drowned in a vat of beer. The search for a new ruler begins yet again.

:beer:

I took 22 turns, due to my turn bridging both sides of 1AD. It seemed like a good spot to abdicate. Now down to 20 turns per rule.

6october
Jan 11, 2002, 06:50 AM
I have downloaded but I am at work . I hope I can play my whole turn tonight. If i cant finish tonight i will keep you updated .

strange that the english respawned I thought I read in some threads that they cant do that after 1 AD :confused:

Any ways I have a plan to finish them once and for all:sniper:
:D :flamedevi

Padma
Jan 11, 2002, 12:36 PM
Probably they didn't respawn. More likely they had a settler on the loose and hustled him to a 'safe' location as you closed in for the kill.

6october
Jan 11, 2002, 04:22 PM
A tragedy that has befallen the American people . just as they were celebrating the spoils of the wae against the english their leader The Son Of Ripley drowned in the celebrations. Now they seek a new Leader . after great debates a Genral Ouzzo who had took part in the Battle of London took power.
The general has shown during the War great cunning manovers and the people hoped he could once and for all finish their hated enemy the english and bring her head on a gold platter back to washington.
this was no easy task as the english have escaped far beyond the land of the iroquois so that they could be safe fromour mighty army .
So General Ouzzo now Cheif Ouzzo gathered his advisors and sought a plan:
First he needed the help of the iroquois so he set up an embassy in their capital
the embassy brough some good inmformation about those strange people. They are somehow more advanced than the English. their people have a luxury of ivory just as ours do. they can buid swordsmen as us and have iron. they spend 100% of their spare gold on science advancment. their capital is building the oracle which is estimated to take 550 years and they protect their capital with two spearmen.

with this information cheif Ouzzo summoned their leader to mutual talks and an agreement was made:
they vowed to give us alliance against the hated English, right of passage , their world map all their coffers of gold ( only 4 ) for exchange of us teaching them philosophy and polythesim. cheif Ouzzo saw no harm in that so it was done.
Now cheif ouzzo ordered the prepairation of the invasion army so that we get the head of elizabeth.
In that a temple was ruch built in Atlanta using the Whip in order to get a galley out of there later. we needed ships to attack the english quickly. orders were sent to three horse regiments to cross the iroquois land to get to the new city of London.

260AD the people rejoice and build the first story of the palace
st. louise was established NW of Washington

280Ad Our culture expand in two cities , the American culture is indeed a strong one

320 AD Detroit Built on the west coast. Cheif Ouzzo said we need to gain money so he adjusted the science rate so that we can gain some gold. Our scientists discovered monarchy but cheif Ouzzo was not intrested in it very much!!
A galley was whipped out of the people of Atlanta and a regiment of soldeirs were boarded on it

340 AD New Orleans was established south of charliston

360 AD Our regiments of horsemen reached London accompanied by iroquois warriors the attack had begun

370 AD Our forces destroy London wih no losses

380 AD Bulitmore Established on the east Coast

390 Our Navy landed forces near the last resort of Elizabeth " York" till now our forces consist of a regiment of swordsmen and an elite regiment of warriors

410 another army was landed near york swordsmen and catapult now we can attak york
A city called Denver was established on our north border near silk . it seems our people like the stuff and hope to trade it to someone in the future

420 we lost our elite regiment of warriors but another reigiment of swordsmen captured your and were promoted to elite,
The English are no more. Elizabeths head hangs inside our Palace.

In celebration a new city was formed Cincinnati in the middle of our empire. cheif ouzzo hopes he can one day build a palace there. The people also celebrate by building a second story in the palace. In reaction cheif Ouzzo was convinced to declare himself King and ordered a reveloution

460 As Cheif Ouzzo grows tierd of the messengers comming from the iroquois trying to spy on our empire he sets his mind to finish them. But he waits for the people to finish their anarchy period
- forces of swordsmen are massed near Oil springs in the south including our elite regiment of swordsmen
- forces are sent to Mass near GrandRiver in the north. We need to split the iroqouis army said cheif/king Ouzzo
- a plan was set for the navy to transport two regiments from our borders i nthe north to be a mobile attack force along the east coast of the iroquois empire
- A regiment of horses were sent to the iron hills of the soon to be enemy to control in at the start of the war.

480 As cheif Ouzzo gets really fed up with the iroquois he threatens them out of their coffers( 40 gold ) and their world map
...they are pretty cowardice people they accept

490 AD Our anarchy is over Ouzzo is declaired King over the people and they rejoice
his first command as King was to declaire War against the spying cowards the iroquois
for the people he changed the great wall in Bostonto the Hangging Gardens so the people could enjoy themselves
Our firt attack wave destroyed Oilsprings and GRandRiver as planned. We gained control of their Iron and Pillaged the roads to it according to Plan. Our naval Forces move to the East coast carrying reinforcments.

Suddenly the American People are struck with devestation as their first King dies after an iroquois assisn managed to put a dagger in his heart after slipping in the palace.
King Ouzzo had not yet named his heir. the people ask for revenge... but who will lead them ... the iroquois are prepairing for a counter attack to use the moments of disbelive against our beloved American empire... Our forces stager at the news ... these are hard times


[dance] :arrow:

6october
Jan 11, 2002, 04:26 PM
Too much writing though. NOW THIS IS OFFICIALY AN EDITED POST.

BTW we are way behind in tech. its 490 AD and we are still trying to learn Litriture

6october
Jan 11, 2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Padma
Probably they didn't respawn. More likely they had a settler on the loose and hustled him to a 'safe' location as you closed in for the kill.

The AI must be really clever to go beyond th iroquois to build their cities. but anyway they are dead now wahhaaaaaaaaa

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 11, 2002, 05:02 PM
Wow! we are really moving. Thank you Ripley!!!!!!!!! In the words of the great charliehoke "I've never been so honored in my life"
It looks like I might get the privelege of killing off the Iriquois. Oh yeah, could someone please just go to one of their posts and edit a letter or something because I haven't been able to edit as of late:mad:

Great job guys!:goodjob:

Grey Fox
Jan 11, 2002, 06:23 PM
Be Noticed!

The almighty Fox known to all as Grey Fox is here. He shall play this game, shall he not? Do not anger the almighty Fox, he shall not be pleased.

The almighty Fox Mail program cannot send you any mail. So he decided to talk to you face to face...

When have you decided... decide now, the Grey Fox is inpatient.


(By the way Gonzo... your up next in The Babylon Game, silverblades info is up)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 11, 2002, 07:28 PM
ok grey fox you're in. You can play now in fact! Please do. Oh yeah, I got the Bablon game but will be posting tomorrow since I'm pretty busy. :)

Ripley
Jan 11, 2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Padma
Probably they didn't respawn. More likely they had a settler on the loose and hustled him to a 'safe' location as you closed in for the kill.

It was an automatic respawn. There was no way they could have moved a settler to where they were without passing the two scouts that had been positioned as lookouts. They had no coastal city, so a naval move was out of the question.

6october
Jan 12, 2002, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
could someone please just go to one of their posts and edit a letter or something because I haven't been able to edit as of late:mad:



Sorry Gonzo it seems that you have a problem:(

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 13, 2002, 12:31 AM
Yo grey fox, it's your turn. Please download soon or be skipped.

If grey fox hasn't d/loaded in 12 more hours, I will most likely grab the game myself.

Grey Fox
Jan 13, 2002, 09:04 AM
I start playing right now...

Kindof strange... i didn't get an auto email...

Grey Fox
Jan 13, 2002, 10:31 AM
1: 500 AD Soldiers are positioned to heal.

2: 510 AD

3: 520 AD The Oracle is produced in Washington. Cattaraugus is destroyed.

5: 540 AD The People Loves the President, they offer to expand his Palace.

7: 560 AD Our forces destroyed Allegheny.

8: 570 AD A peace is made between the Americans and the Iroquois. We get Niagara Falls and World Map.

9: 580 AD The russian city of Moscow completes the Hanging Gardens. Moving troops towards the last Iroquoi City.

10: 590 AD Got a Right of Passage deal. Still moving towards the city. The people love the President, a new part to the palace is added. Entering a new Era.

11: 600 AD Salamanca is taken. With it 3 workers. They got a new city, southeast of Gonzor.

14: 630 AD The people loves the President, a new part to the Palace is added.

18: 670 AD The Iroqois stole denver... argh! They are going to pay! We destroyed Allegheny.

19: 680 AD Denver is ours again!

20: 690 AD Troop Movements.

The Iroqois got one city left... try to attack it with Elite Units... we will need a leader to build the Forbidden Palace... then Settle the Island...

We might wanna switch to Sun Tzu Art of War instead of the Great Wall (If I'm building it... :confused: )

Then it might be a good Idea going for Democracy... and Astronomy / Navigation.

Ripley
Jan 13, 2002, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Grey Fox
Kindof strange... i didn't get an auto email...

Auto email goes to Gonzo only. The rest of the team monitors this thread.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 13, 2002, 03:50 PM
All right, I've downloaded and will play soon. This is the first time ive had off all weekend. :rolleyes: I think I shall build forbidden palace in Gonzor, in honor of myself :D and it's a very good location. I will start an expidition to explore other continents. If There is an open continent I will grab it so others wont. The cities will be crap though.:cry:

Well, I'm off to satisfy the Civ III cravings I've been having lately. Note to all civfanatics: Asprin works real well on Civilization withdrawl headaches.:lol:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 13, 2002, 08:40 PM
Ok here's the file. Summation soon to come!

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 13, 2002, 08:58 PM
Sir! Riders are approaching! They fly the banner of the 15th fox of grey!

Your excellency! You have been chosen by the aristocracy to lead.

What has become of Grey Fox?

He has been killed along with many comrades, in Denver. An Iriquois warrior threw an axe right through his.....:eek:

DONT USE THAT LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE:eek:

Ok fine, I'll lead.

700 AD - Lowered science to 50 to make budget gains. Economic stimulus plan outlined below:

1. Courthouses to quell production.
2. Marketplaces in profitable cities.
3. Roads, Roads, Roads.....
4. Finish off Iriquois for their money.
5. Try for golden age!!

Feudalism discovered, Republic started. Gonzor building temple. Some mines to be irrigated.

710 - Forb. Palace started in Gonzor, Charliston starts courthouse

720 - Grand River taken, Iriquois dead. :) :D

730-760 - Im elated to report that no major events occured during this time

770 - Dallas founded. Atlanta ordered to produce workers endlessly.

780 - Nothing

790 - Boston produces Great Library :D

800-820 - Nothing

830 - Republic discovered and Engineering started.

840 - Great lighthouse completed. Golden age reached!!!:goodjob:

850 - Great wall completed, I forgot to change it:mad:

860 - Nothing

870-890 Gonzo is tired of city management, and returns to position of Supreme General of the Army. Therefore, a new leader must rise.

Next leader: Ripley(charliehoke, if you are back, please notify us so we can put you in during this turn)

Philadelphia can still be improved to milk out some dough. Our economy is temporarily recovered. Continue work on economy so we can have a stable economy when our golden age ends. Navajo are building little camps everywhere! Use the elite horse to destroy. If you get a leader, I would suggest a rush build of the Forbidden palace. It's up to you :)

Grey Fox
Jan 13, 2002, 09:15 PM
If your suggestion is Hunting barbarians to get leaders, then your on the wrong track... You can not get a Leader from slaying a barbarian.

But you can get elite troops, so hunt them down with veterans instead.

:goodjob: everybody

I'm sorry you forgot to switch from Great Wall :( , in my opionion one of the worst Wonders... :vomit:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 13, 2002, 09:28 PM
If your suggestion is Hunting barbarians to get leaders, then your on the wrong track... You can not get a Leader from slaying a barbarian.

HAHA!!!! No wonder it wasn't working. :rotfl:

Snaproll
Jan 14, 2002, 12:46 PM
Hi guys,

I got my email up, so I'm back in the mix! Just let me know when I'm up and I'll do it. I might still be slow since I'm still out of town, but I'll do my best. It's good to be back!:D

Ripley
Jan 14, 2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by charliehoke
Hi guys,

I got my email up, so I'm back in the mix! Just let me know when I'm up and I'll do it. I might still be slow since I'm still out of town, but I'll do my best. It's good to be back!:D

Your up now Charliechoke, otherwise it's me. So get your whip cracking. :p

If there's no message from you within 12 hours of this post, I'll start. ;)

Ripley
Jan 16, 2002, 12:01 PM
Sorry about the delay. I went fishing all night last night. Slept all day.

An outline of the highlights of my short rule.

900 AD - Sun Tzu's Art of War begun in Boston.

920 AD - Switched building of Art of War to Seattle. The people expanded our palace.

930 AD - The people expanded our palace again.

990 AD - Researching of gunpowder has begun. Los Angeles and Cleveland founded. Three boats sailing east have discovered land. Two boats about to sail west.

1000 AD - The boats travelling east have found land. It appears to be of good size with no immediate signs of habitation.

1010 AD - The people offer to expand our palace. Kansas City is founded. A momentus occassion is upon us. We have stepped foot upon a new land. Two horsemen have been ordered to find a suitable location for our first city, with a swordman guarding our settler. Our ships continue to map the coast. One will return for supplies.

1020 AD - We lost a galley to the high sea's. So much for the GL. Contact. We have met an Egyptian spearman. We have word is that our forces outnumber them and when told of our cities they were in awe of our cultural achievments. Their leader Cleopatra has been polite towards us and we have established an embassy in their capital.

1040 AD - We now have contact with the Russians. Their leader Catherine was cautious at first, but has been polite since we established an embassy in their capital.

1050 AD - Reports exist of a massive barbarian uprising near Niagra falls. Losing 24 gold a turn. I have had to cut back the science expenditure to 50%. Our new neighbours do not have enough gold to trade.

1060 AD - We lost another galley at sea. I'm sure that's not supposed to happen. End of barbarian uprising with no loss of life.

1090 AD - Richmond was founded in the new land. Our galleys appear to have discovered yet another island continent, this time to the south of the last one. Our science expenditure has been increased to 60%.

I kept production going as it was. There are only two cities producing settlers, which might need to be increased.

The Colosus will be finished in 10 turns, Leonardo's Workshop in 22, and the Art of War in 16. We are the only Civilization building wonders at the moment.

I started to push exploration and expansion to other continents. There's still lots of land to be grabbed.

I haven't done any map deals (or any other deals for that matter) with Egypt or Russia.

Hope the image doesn't take too long to load on a modem.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/anmat/graphics/new_land2.jpg

Ripley
Jan 16, 2002, 02:12 PM
:goodjob:

Grey Fox
Jan 16, 2002, 02:26 PM
Who's next?

Ripley
Jan 16, 2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Grey Fox
Who's next?

It should be 6october, then yourself. But don't quote me on that.

6october
Jan 16, 2002, 10:41 PM
I am in the middle of an ISO audit at my company right now,it seems I will have to pass on this turn. :cry:

But I am really glad with the progress. It seems we are well on our way to a conquest victory.

a word of advice try to buy the egyptian and russian map without giving ours in return. it will save loads of time and sunken galleys.

we can get our money back for an old tech or something
:goodjob:
Good luck Grey Fox andall the rest .

Grey Fox
Jan 16, 2002, 10:48 PM
I thought I would get the Time to play this game, but I'm just not going to make the time for it...

So count me out in the future

SORRY:(

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 17, 2002, 05:34 PM
I'm looking for a new player to play right now. If I can't find someone I will download and keep it going. We must keep going.....

Snaproll
Jan 21, 2002, 12:31 PM
Hi guys,

I'm sorry I've been out of it - I thought I had access on my trip, but I didn't. I am home now, so I will play this game and post right now!!! :D

Snaproll
Jan 21, 2002, 03:32 PM
Surfacing from the depths of Antiquity, the famed American Leader Chuck emerges for another 100 years of enlightened rule. Amazingly, he seems to have aged but a few weeks to those who look apon him, but the AMerican empire has grown at a tremendous rate! Charlie is boggled by the immensity of the vast empire and feels overwhelmed. :eek:

1100: Charlie is enraged by the extreme amounts of corruption plaguing his empire. Several outlying cities are surrounded by mines, but are still producing but one mere shield! Oh the waste - all those workers doing nothing of value for so many years... We are very spread out, but I will continue to try to grab unsettled land. We trade the secrets of the Republic to Egypt for 8 gold/turn and 14 gold and her World Map! In an instant, thier continent is revealed to us - the Russians and Egyptians both vie for control. Several citie production changed.

1110: The town of York is connected to our great trade network. There are automated workers and units scampering everywhere.

1120: The Russians are quickly filling in the land near our two frontier cities, and there is no good way to stop them. Another continent is sighted to the south, however.. Is it empty? Las Vegas is founded on the mainland. Our galley sinks a dastardly barbarian vessel. :die!:

1130: Russians build another city! Pheonix founded. Another Saltpeter deposit connected to the empire... Our sages discover that it is possible to worship but a single god... I set them on the long term task of discovering a form of representative governemnt that exhibits characteristics of a free market system and economic enlightenment. "Huh?" they reply.

1140: A Settler is loaded in a boat to head for the new continent.

1150: Several mines completed. One of my trusted advisors suggests that we withhold our world map in any future negotiations, as the pathetic Russians and Egyptians don't seem to know there is a nother continent ripe for the taking!

1160: The loyal populace expands the royal palace with a west wing, and then an east wing!

1170: A Major trading deal is made. We trade the Egyptians the knowledge of our single god for thier world map, 60 gold, and 23 gold per turn!! While giving up a major secret, we have also crippiled her economic growth and allowed ourselves to devote even more research to science. We will soon be far superior technologically again. Additionally, those crazies in San Francisco have built a gigantic statue that increases our cash flow even more!

1180: Our galleys are exploring the southern continent with a fervor. Several temples are produced to solidify our borders.

1190: In a shocking turn of events, emperor Chuck disappears well before his scheduled reign is destined to end. (Sorry, I had something come up and had to stop at 10 turns :mad: ) A couple settlers are heading to the new southern continent. I STRONGLY suggest changing the in progress Leonardo's Workship to the Sistene Chapel when we finish with Theology.

Good luck whoever's next. Lets revive this game!!!

Snaproll
Jan 21, 2002, 03:36 PM
Here is the game! :mwaha:

Snaproll
Jan 21, 2002, 03:37 PM
OOPS! :sheep:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 21, 2002, 03:37 PM
Good job charliehoke. Anyone is free to grab the game as soon as the file is uploaded! We must keep going.

thcsquad
Jan 21, 2002, 04:47 PM
Can I join in this one? I'm definately a beginner, I have two games on Warlord right now and it's iffy leaning to unlikely that I'm going to outright win them. Hope that qualifies.
I'll download it and play tonight, if by 'anyone' you meant anyone who's already in it, then it will just have been playing experience for me.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 21, 2002, 05:18 PM
Yeah, sure you can join thcsquad. I can add you to my list permanently with a spot in the rotation and all if you really want. All we ask is that you respect the other members of this game and try to play your turns in a timely matter. You have a 48 hour time limit though. Ill add you if you want, looking forward to reading your post. :D

thcsquad
Jan 21, 2002, 05:47 PM
Sure, you can put me in the permanent rotation. I might be able to get my round in tonight....I have a project due tomorrow...when I start playing Civ I don't stop, so if I don't want to flunk I have to finish it before I start playing :)

...but if not tonight then definately tomorrow night. And by the way, how do you get the screen captures? I tried Print Scrn, but nothing seems to happen when I paste it into an image editor. Maybe I'll try it again in case I was doing something wrong before.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 21, 2002, 05:49 PM
O.K. thcsquad I have added you into the game. I will post a new turn order as soon as your turn is up so we can get moving again. It's nice to know that we will finally have a full rotation again. :)

Good luck and most of all, Have Fun :) :D :goodjob: :nya:

thcsquad
Jan 22, 2002, 03:23 PM
1200 - I assess the situation. Why is Washington building a Cathedral when they have 4 happy, 4 contents, so even growing to size 12 will not put them in disorder? I switch them to Horseman, to upgrade to the Knight when we get Chivalry(which I will research right after we get Theology in a turn) and Leonardo's. Russia has more territory and we have a bigger border with them, so I will move on them first. And their only two sources of iron are very near the two places I had already planned on attacking, their capital and the front.

1210 - As mentioned in last turn, Theology discovered. San Francisco switched to Sistine Chapel.

1220 - Optimized Seattle so Leo's Workshop is done in 7 turns instead of 9, it has a shortage but that's fine because it's at max size and has the granary filled up, by the time it loses a pop point Leo's will be finished.

1230 - Nothing important

1240 - Started FP in Gonzor but I really doubt it'll ever get done.

1250 - Sun Tzu's finished in whatever city was building it(Boston I think). Switched Gonzor to Courthouse as the FP will go much faster after the Courthouse is built.

1255 - Chivalry discovered, start on Chemistry. Lowered sci rate to 70% to make a profit and considering our position in production and their position in tech, techs after Chivalry aren't terribly important :) Capital suburbs not doing anything important start producing Knights.

1260 - Started FP in Charliston instead. Looks like that is the ideal place, because it is pretty close to the corrupt cities but still has really good production. Founded Pheonix near the saltpeter which is a little bit east of San Diego, to take it from the Egyptians.

1265 - Nothing

1270 - Leo's Workshop finished.

1275 - Nothing

1280 - Cleopatra asks to trade territory maps, and we do. I noted during the negotiations that they have neither Feudalism nor Theology. Looks like they aren't getting Knights anytime soon. This should be easy.

1285 - First Musketman arrives on Russo/Egyptian continent! I can hardly wait for the attack to begin.

1290 - More troop movement.

1295 - Chemistry discovered. Metallurgy started. Built Albequerque near some horses that our borders haven't gotten to.

1300 - Just troop movement(JTM).

1305 - Palace expanded.

1310 - JTM

1315 - Had to lower science rate again to 60%. We have a huge military now :)

1320 - Last turn, JTM

Most of our workers are shift-A'd now, as there's not much left to do. What's holding our northern cities back is not lack of improvement, but corruption and waste. We need that FP and courthouses.

While we are not at war with the Russians yet, I hatched a battle plan that I didn't get to implement on my turn. As you can see, all the big productive cities are now producing either knights, longbowmen, or musketmen, based on production capacity and proximity to the loading docks(Baltimore, although Houston is a good spot too). I think the current production tasks are optimal, but anyway here's the battle plan(can't display it here, you have to click the link):

http://www.geocities.com/thcsquad/civ.jpg

Longbowmen and musketmen land at San Diego and Richmond, and stay put for a little while until the knights can get in place. The knights meanwhile head just west of Moscow, and when enough get there, land at the black x(catapults in Moscow cannot hit you, but you can still strike on the next turn). Then raze Moscow(nothing productive will probably ever come out of it at it's location), and head straight to the iron in the mountains(red x) and Sverdlovsk, which has the iron in it's territory. While this is happening, the Longbowmen and Musketmen(Knights are useless in that jungle terrain) would be marching through the jungles, taking their second source of iron, which I fortified a horseman right by. There is also a horseman in Pheonix, and he can be dispatched to the iron just north of him(which is right by Maikop I think) while the musketmen who just landed there can be used to defend the city. In fact you might even be able to take that iron on the first turn of war.

Of course the next king is free to not use my battle plan, but I believe that plan is the soundest, swiftest, and will cause us to lose the least amount of units to use on the Egyptian campaign.

thcsquad
Jan 22, 2002, 03:29 PM
Now for the save....

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 22, 2002, 04:10 PM
Good work! I will download and kick a little russian @$$ a little later. I will post a new turn order when I post my summary. I need 6october to e-mail me if his company's ISO audit is over so that we don't pass him by. If anyone else is reading this and wants to play. Please post here. I will accept maybe 3 more people into this game so we won't stall anymore like we did a few days ago. I also need to know time zones so a convinient turn order can be worked out. Wish me luck!

Ripley
Jan 23, 2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
I will accept maybe 3 more people into this game so we won't stall anymore like we did a few days ago. I also need to know time zones so a convinient turn order can be worked out.

3 more is too many. 6 ppl would be a good maximum.

I'm in Perth, Western Australia. 8 hours ahead of Greenwich.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 23, 2002, 07:18 PM
lol, for some reason i thought that charliehoke and ripley had quit. Oops!! So that means that I will only get one more person. Thanks Ripley!

Snaproll
Jan 23, 2002, 07:56 PM
I'm still here guys - I took the turn before last! I'm in the eastern time zone.

thcsquad
Jan 23, 2002, 08:41 PM
I'm in the central time zone.

Ripley
Jan 24, 2002, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
lol, for some reason i thought that charliehoke and ripley had quit. Oops!!

We were just sitting back having a quiet beer waiting for you. :beer: :p :D

6-of-october
Jan 24, 2002, 07:10 AM
My signiture says it all . Everytime the forum has problems I can never log in with my nick:spank:

It alaways gives me TCP IP error.
however it ok If i get a new account aggghhhhh

Did you know that every new account need a new email
:rocket3: :rocket: :ripper: :rocket2: :sniper: [plasma]

6-of-october
Jan 24, 2002, 12:35 PM
I am in greenwitch + 2 hours (cairo)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 24, 2002, 07:10 PM
Neato! Either today or tomorrow I will post the revised turn order along with my turns and summary. I will try to post a screenshot. Looks like this Russian situation will be quite a bit of fun.

thcsquad
Jan 24, 2002, 09:08 PM
Don't put me in too soon in the turn order, as I'm not going to be here till Monday. Shouldn't be a problem though, as long as there is at least one or two people between you and my next turn.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 24, 2002, 09:36 PM
Yeeeeeehaaaaaaaawwwwww!!!!!!!!!

Official Russo-Razed/Captured city count = 11

I only captured 1 and razed the rest. The one was Kharkov because it was coastal and far from the rest of Russia. This is my first attempt at a screenshot and it is only a mini-map screenshot:

Apparently, the screenshot didn't work. :rolleyes:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 24, 2002, 09:55 PM
I was almost finished typing out a summary when my connection was suddenly lost. Since all I did was raze cities and a few other things I'll just give a brief summary here. The other one was a lot nicer. :mad:

Razed 10 cities: Magnitogorsk, Uralsk, Kursk, Sevastopol, Snepropetrovsk, Krasnoyorsk, Kuibyshev, Grozny, Riga, and Maikop.

Captured 1 coastal city - Kharkov

Discovered 3 techs - Whatever was in progress when I started, military tradition, and printing press.

3 production changes - Richmond from courthouse to wealth as a courthouse won't even help, Charliston from forb. palace to palace as placeholder since it is too close to our capital for the forb palace, and changed Gonzor to foridden palace.

1 great leader - Washington

1 rush-build - Forb palace in Gonzor

Extorted 1 city from Egypt - Kahun(needs temple for culture ASAP)

Effects of my reign: Russia is pathetic, we have units in boats on the way to take out Russia easily and Egypt if we wan't to. We are now making 45 gold per turn due to the forbidden palace in Gonzor:):):D Lots and Lots of Russian slaves capture(they can be loaded on boats and sent back since they are free labor, I already sent back about 10 and automated them to focus on war). Most of our workers are automated but I didn't do this, they were already like that so I just added the Russian slaves to the freak show:)

Lets finish off the russians and start to take some cities for strongholds against egypt eventually.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 24, 2002, 09:59 PM
Ill post it here when I'm done with it. The only thing I know is that next up is Ripley and 6october comes afterwards:)

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 24, 2002, 10:49 PM
Heres the file:

Ripley
Jan 24, 2002, 11:47 PM
:D Got it.

:eek: Somebody automated the workers!

:mad: Off with their head!

Grey Fox
Jan 25, 2002, 11:13 AM
Gonzo, your next in the Babylon Game, without spoiling much... the Russians are Gone, only the Aztecs left...

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 27, 2002, 06:03 PM
ok, we can finally get moving again. The forums are back and now we can play some more. Hopefully, Ripley will post soon and then 6october can play. Im still working on the turn order.

Grey Fox
Jan 27, 2002, 06:12 PM
Yes!!! The forum is up again! And I just have to post everywhere!

By the way Gonzo, Have you read my lates post in the Babylon Game? We have to start discussing our next game, if you still want to play a new game with the same Crew!?

Ripley
Jan 27, 2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
Hopefully, Ripley will post soon ...

I shall post right now! This one will have to be quick. The forums came up just as I was about to leave. It's a public holiday here. :cool:

The first order of buisness was to increase the science rate back up to 70%.

I have continued the war against Russia. On top of that I have started one against Egypt. Cleopatra was starting to send out settlers into the area's recently vacated by Russia. I coudn't see much point in kicking two different Civs off the same land at different times, so I attacked. They have taken Cahun off us, but have lost a lot more than they have gained. Cleo was pretty pissed when I took the Gemstone city of Abydos and threw everything at it. That ended when I rushed some walls. We should probably rush a temple there as well.

Egypt is down to a single iron source and I think that we should attack that sooner rather then later. It's not exactly deep in their territory. It also appears that they have only a single supply of horses (hint, hint).

They have finally discovered the island to the bottom of the map and are attacking Portland as I speak, although that appears limited to a single chariot.

Russia is a spent force. They now have five cities left and have lost their capital twice. They have no iron or horses, let alone saltpeter. Oh, did I mention that Egypt has no saltpeter either? I tried to hold on to Moscow due to it's Hanging Gardens but it flipped (should have rushed a temple). So I razed it next turn.

On our home front, most of our cities have been working on improvements with a small number supplying a steady trickle of cavalry. I've built a harbour in Houston and most of the galleys are headed there now for an upgrade. We have Navigation so we shouldn't lose any more ships at sea.

We are currently researching physics and building JS Bach's cathedral, Magellans Voyage, and the Observatory. With the destruction of Moscow, we are now the only Civilization controlling wonders.

All in all, it's starting to look like a walk in the park. I'll be lucky if I get another turn in this game.

PS: Gonzo, when this one is over, we should jump up a level and start another game with the same group.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 27, 2002, 08:51 PM
PS: Gonzo, when this one is over, we should jump up a level and start another game with the same group.

Sounds like a fine idea Ripley! We'll have to check and make sure everyone would be interested. It'll be a great way to improve personally as well as improving as a team. What do you guys think? Should there be a GFC2 on warlord, with this same team? (thcsquad, you can come too, even though you're new:))

Here's the new turn order, hopefully I didn't leave anyone else since I am doing this off of the top of my head.

6-of-october(up right now)
charliehoke(on deck)
thcsquad
gonzo_for_civ
Ripley

This should be optimal for turn order. If there is any problem, let me know. I'll try to keep this post updated and I may post a turn order on the first post of this thread. phaser

thcsquad
Jan 27, 2002, 09:07 PM
Ripley: I automated the workers, we just have way too freaking many for it to be humanly possible and it's way too late in the game(not timewise, but as in how far we are away from final victory) for it to matter what the workers do. Besides I shift-automated them, so they won't undo anything that was done before. I usually micromanage them, but it'd be tough to lose this game if we tried at this point.

And yeah, I'll join a GFC2 game on Warlord.

Snaproll
Jan 27, 2002, 09:32 PM
I'm up for another game too!

6-of-october
Jan 28, 2002, 05:08 AM
I will download now but I think I might use most of the next 24 hours since I am a bit busy at work now.
I hope to post in 24 hours time.

Way to go Ripley I get to beat up both the Russians and the Egyptians.:goodjob:

Ripley
Jan 28, 2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by thcsquad
Ripley: I automated the workers

:D I was just poking fun. I haven't un-automated any workers.

BTW, I'm curious to know what the THC in thcsquad stands for. It has a certain green conotation, if you know what i mean. ;) :crazyeyes :lol:

thcsquad
Jan 28, 2002, 02:50 PM
BTW, I'm curious to know what the THC in thcsquad stands for. It has a certain green conotation, if you know what i mean

They're just my initials. Maybe my naming was influenced by the aforementioned green substance.

6-of-october
Jan 28, 2002, 06:06 PM
the history of the American people 1525-1575
King Ouzzo II led a short life reigning over the American people
( due to a very busy working day and night :D sorry)
In his time the American people chose to continue war against the nasty egyptians and russians.
however the war turned into an economic war due lack of numerous fighting troops on the batte field.
King Ouzzo chose to have a second loading point for supplies to our troops in the battlefield from the city of Atlanta.
Alas he will not live to see the fleet that he had upgraded reach atalanta. ( see units are so slow)
HOwever some ships are still transferring our troops Richmond from where they take a very long land trip to reach the battle grounds.
Egypt counter attacked with numerous chariots and swordsmen until elite commandoes ( Kights and cavelery ) manged to gain control over Egypts Iron and Horses.
Overall the Army under King Ouzzos Rule manged to raze elephantine and two other cities for Egypt.
captured one city from Russia
Cut Egypt off From its grapes causing it to fall temporarly into disorder.
Capture the egyptian City of Lisht to use as a healing ground.
Attack Thebes to terify Cleopatra ( try to heal the units there and keep control of the IRON and Horses )

On the Home front King Ouzzo II did not have much effect except he focuse production on the army. We need to outnumber the egyptians so we can handle two fronts.
He automated the rest of the workers ( sorry but I thought they can fare for themselves.)
Our scientists have discovered magentism and are trying to research a strange science doing with earch pulling materials to it. they say it will move us into an entire new age!!

King OuzzoII before he died said " tell my successor to concentrate on Egypt...Russia can wait and they are weak...send commandoes for egypts last luxury...it will help bring them down quicker...attack in number..they must..."
He died so young and went to his ISO GOD to face him for playing CIV III after work at 3 am while he should sleep to continue tommorow aghh.
:D :D :D

6-of-october
Jan 28, 2002, 06:11 PM
Almost forgot it *YAWN*
:crazyeyes

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 28, 2002, 06:45 PM
ok, ill make a GFC 2 when we win this one, what civ should we be? I was thinking the Persians because I have never been them and everybody always talks about immortals. We could be american again. What do you guys think? Charliehoke is up. :)

Snaproll
Jan 28, 2002, 06:55 PM
I've got it and I'll post hopefully tonight but maybe tomorrow night. I'll do my best - I have to admit I'm not too experienced at late game conquest. Wish me luck! :rolleyes:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 28, 2002, 07:00 PM
good luck charliehoke. It looks like this game is winding down. They'll be lucky if we go one more round. Can't wait to start GFC 2. Looking forward to seeing your turns charliehoke.

Ripley
Jan 28, 2002, 07:11 PM
Persia would be good, although there is nothing immortal about the Immortals.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 28, 2002, 07:16 PM
Persia would be good, although there is nothing immortal about the Immortals.

Yes, I know, but they do have a distinct advantage early on. They are the only unit that can beat down greek hoplites with consistency. In this game, we will never get to use and F-15 :(

In the next game, however, if we were Persia, we would definately get to use Immortals. I am still open to any suggestions.

Snaproll
Jan 28, 2002, 07:48 PM
I'm probably not going to be able to post until tomorrow sorry. By the way, call me Charlie :D I've got to learn not to use my real name for these boards.

As for our next game, I'm pretty open to suggestions, but I wouldn't mind Japanese or Chinese only because I've never tried them before. :goodjob:

Snaproll
Jan 28, 2002, 10:29 PM
Here is the game! I'll post the report tomorrow, but it's pretty basic. I played 9 turns. Thebes has fallen. Both the Egyptians and Russians have 4 cities each. I razed 10 cities in 9 turns. It's just mop-up from here. A note to the next player, all the workers on the old continent are automated, and all the units are moving to staging points near New York and Denver. Have fun!

:die!:

Snaproll
Jan 28, 2002, 10:31 PM
What's left:

6-of-october
Jan 29, 2002, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by charliehoke
I've got it and I'll post hopefully tonight but maybe tomorrow night. I'll do my best - I have to admit I'm not too experienced at late game conquest. Wish me luck! :rolleyes:

Raising 10 cities and your not experianced, Charlie that was a very good late game conquest.:goodjob:

6-of-october
Jan 29, 2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
ok, ill make a GFC 2 when we win this one, what civ should we be? I was thinking the Persians because I have never been them and everybody always talks about immortals. We could be american again. What do you guys think? Charliehoke is up. :)

Should we target a conquest Victory again ?
I would like to change and build an empire that extends to corruptionless cities. play world cop. and maybe reach Alpha Centuri over, overwhelm the world with culture or even just Histo gram .
Dont mind some wars for recources:rocket: :king:
or even a nuclear war if we fail to get culture or space race wins.


:rocket2: :satan:
I also think we need more Civs' with us next time

Whats ur opinion ? This may shape what civ attributes we need. and what kind of map we use.:D

Snaproll
Jan 29, 2002, 04:42 PM
I'm not going to post a more detailed summary, since the game is pretty much over. Whoever is next, finish it off! :king:

thcsquad
Jan 29, 2002, 04:46 PM
I finished it in 1650. Dang Egyptians rebuilt Thebes way far away, but luckily I had troops passing through that area on the way to Russia.

I don't think it's needed to post the save....but if you want me to I will....let's move onto the next one.

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 29, 2002, 05:52 PM
Ok thcsquad is up. He'll probably finish off this game so I am going to start a GFC 2. I will probably start it in 2-4 hours because I have to make the game and stuff....

Snaproll
Jan 31, 2002, 06:25 AM
Did I miss the new game start?:(

6-of-october
Jan 31, 2002, 08:16 AM
I guess Gonzo was busy or something so he didnt start the game yet.
Anyways I WAAAITING anxously :D :D :D :D :D :egypt:

gonzo_for_civ
Jan 31, 2002, 05:22 PM
Yikes! I've been really busy lately. I will make a new game and post it in < hour.

6-of-october
charlie
thcsquad
gonzo_for_civ
Ripley(WILL PLAY FIRST IN GFC2)

I am not gonna play any turns to get us started, I am letting Ripley play first. I will just post the 4000BC save file for him to download. We are the Japanese on Warlord level and I can't remember anything else. I'll be making the new thread really soon.