Just playing along, minding my own business, plotting world domination when optics comes along and me and my buddies start exploring the world. Now we're playing on continents, and as you know barbarians can found cities of their own. So we all hop on over to see what's going on in the other continents when we spy this:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5467/civ4screenshot00005xm.jpg

EVERYBODY TO THE FREE LEVEL 7 CITY COMPLETE WITH IMPROVEMENTS

Unfortunately the AI got there first, and as you know the AI always razes barbarian cities :sad:

Woah.

Can't the AI see that it's a big city with improvements and treat it like an enemy AI city or a human city? If not, can it be tweaked to do so?

SaaM

Unfortunately the AI got there first, and as you know the AI always razes barbarian cities :sad:

No they don't. I saw the Arabs capture(and keep) the barbarian city of Harappan once.

http://www.netrexgp.nl/img/image019.jpg

http://www.netrexgp.nl/img/image051.jpg

Now both pictures above are from my current Civ IV story game (see my signature). Hittite is a barb city, later conquered by the german empire. It's the size 10 german city in the lower left corner. So the AI doesn't always raze barb cities.

-Dimy

That was realy a hugh barb city I hope I never meat those guys

I ran into a couple of barb cities in my last game (just finished this morning). And, I conquered two and the AI players conquered a couple of them... I could tell by the city names. "Thracian", etc. In fact, end of game, the biggest city in the world was size 23 and had been started by Barbs, then conquered bythe Arabs. Probably because the map was Huge meant there was more opportunity for Barbs to get to that point of having citiies.

Wodan

I was playing that "year 1000" scenario as Mali, and their were two barbarian Ghanian cities I took right off the bat that are proving to be very useful, though small and with low production.

Once they have cities arent they no longer technicly barbarians?

They're still barbarians, but they are now classed as a minor nation instead of just nomadic barbarians ^^;

I played a game on a huge Terra map. Nobody circumvented the globe until I found the "new world" until 1600AD or so. When I got there it was riddled with Barb cities of size 5 and up to 7-8. They were defended by plenty Axemen and Archers. I founded my first city and put a few riflemen in for protection. 10 turns later the barbs attacked me with riflemen of their own!! Wooaahh! How insane is that? It's a bit rediculous if you ask me...

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9507/barb5bf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:eek:

can barbarians develop navy units? it'd be cool if they could.

can barbarians develop navy units? it'd be cool if they could.

Sure, but I have yet to see anything other than galleys... It's like in good old CivI, where they'd suddenly land a bunch of Musketmen and take over one of your undefended core cities :)

Barbs can also build wonders. Once I saw in the event log "Barbarians have just completed the Colossus". I still haven't found the city with the Colossus in it though.

dang :eek: barbs:king:

In a game of mine, one built stonehenge.

how can they build stonehendge? That is very early wonder!

Can the Barbs win through Space Race? I mean in theory; I'm fairly certain that any halfway-decent civ could stop or beat them.

I played a game on a huge Terra map. Nobody circumvented the globe until I found the "new world" until 1600AD or so. When I got there it was riddled with Barb cities of size 5 and up to 7-8. They were defended by plenty Axemen and Archers. I founded my first city and put a few riflemen in for protection. 10 turns later the barbs attacked me with riflemen of their own!! Wooaahh! How insane is that? It's a bit rediculous if you ask me...

Oh I don't know. Sounds a lot like the real colonization of the new world. Your people should have kept tighter controls on those rifles.

how can they build stonehendge? That is very early wonder!I posted about 2 weeks ago in a thread in the general forum about barbs that I found a HUGE 12 size barb city with pryamids and the Oracle in it :eek:

Damn city was a hard nut to crack too! On a hill with longbows and axes :mad:

omg im laughing so hard im crying...

i am so loving the barbarians in this game... even if they are giving me a serious reason to not neglect my defences.... in civ expecially and sometimes in civ 3 i could go quite a while without defending my interior cities in the slightest... this one i cant :)

WOW!! Those Barbs are really advanced!

how hard are they to defeat?

cuz in civ3 they dropped like flies

some of my most violent wars have been against barbarians.. and yes i mean wars.. my 6 cities once were under attack from the north east and west at the same time by 3 barbarian cities. at the beginning of it they nearly overran me and destroyed a good portion of my improvements

These barbarians seem almost better that the normal Tribes.

To bad you can't be the barbs!
or can you...:mischief:

I saw some where that there is a cheat to chose the barbs just like any other civ...:woohoo:

I think you needed to go into the game files and change some number from 0 to 1 or something like that.:undecide:

There is a mod which gives you the option to play as the barbarions!

For a true barbarian invasion play on a large plains map with aggresive barbarians, with that I had a ton attacking, comming in from all angles, with several cities pretty early in the game.
:ar15: :viking: :viking: :viking:

Woah... They really made barbarians more powerful now.

i played earth once and when i got to the new world there were approximately 8 barbarian cities all over. it was pretty nice not to have to take so many settlers over :D. however it took me a loooong time before i conquered them as i'd landed with 1 rifle and 1 cavalry, and their cities had many many axemen and archers. i had reached tanks and stealth by the time i was finally able to take our the last barb city.

i agree, barbs are awesome - though barb diplomacy would nice [bribe them to wage a proxy war against a civ ;).

My favorite Barb moment, was early in the game hearing that the indian civilization had been destroyed (poor gandhi). Later when I was sailing around in a caravel exploring the rest of the continent, I fould that the barbarians were still holed up in the indian capital where both buddism and hinduism had been founded as well as where stone henge was. Something strange about seeing a size 11 city where two religions were founded being guarded by a barbarian longbowman :lol:

Do the barbs spread the religion?

i played the year 1000 senario as the mongals and capured Pyongang (something like that) from barbs, in the game it became a religios center for confusunisum, the most populest city in the world, and the coastal trading hub of all of asia

How early can you die from a barbarian assault? This early. See the scores... note that Hinduism has just been founded.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1249/deadenglish4tf.jpg

I while back I noticed Egypt had been knocked out. It was a 'Continents' map, with 8 civs. After I got Caravels, I found the other Continents, including one populated by 3 Barbarian cities, named Memphis, Thebes, and Apache...

Iv seen the AI capture several barb citys and i have only played two games

Do barbarians really build wonders? Or do they just capture cities with wonders in them?

they can build them....even early ones

I want to say, this thread is really cool. I've had similar instances: But in all of them, it always seems to be the barbarian cities that I conquer that become the best, except for my capital. In the game I'm currently playing, I'm doing Terra with raging barbarians. You should have seen them in the beginning; I didn't even need to build any workers because they would just destroy the improvements and roads that I had built. Eventually, the continent was populated and they went away. However, this leaves me wondering...what's going on in the "new world"? I'll post when I get there.

I found a fully developed size 16 city with Riflemen for protection in my invasion of Huge Terra map. They beat me straight off the new continent. That city had a few wonders and it had developed it's cultural borders at least three times...:eek: :eek:

the barbs. tend to stay around longer in this game because it's harder to expand your territory

I don't have Civ 4 (yet) and, out of interest, can barbs appear because of 'rebbelions', due to angry citizens like in Civ 2, or do they stick to the Civ 3 'only in the wilderness' rules?

Hopefully, when I get the game I'll be able to turn off the barbs.

I would hope you can turn off Barbs. But that would be NO FUN!!:p

Would be for me, I prefer to kill full scale civs in bloody wars.

No wonders, partly due to having 11 civs on the map, but here's Barbaria:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Barbaria.JPG

Whoa. That's some major barb cities there.

But with sizeable gaps where you can start your new world empire.

I had a very similar situation to SamE in my game on Terra, went over to explore the new world, get some nice resources, and was promptly smited by the very large barbarian civ located over there. Next transport took a rather large consignment of riflemen and cavalry!

So your fate was similar to Karachi's:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Karachi_has_been_captured_by_barbarians.JPG
(Look in the upper-left corner)

But, it's strange if you think about it... Barbarians were nomads. I fthey founded a city thry would become a civ...
But I'm not complaning.

You could argue that barbarians still have no respect for civs, but then civs would have to be able to become barbarians.

they should be able to become their own civ when long enough....btw can barbarians fight against each other like they should be in real history

who made illinouis a barbarian city:confused: new york is way more barbaric:lol:

The Illinouis were an Indian tribe, thats why. I was just playing when i came across this thread, while I was playing (only my 2nd game) two barbarian archers took my city (turfan). So, ok, I'll just go recapture it. But then the Russians come outa nowhere and take MY city from the barbarians. ARGH!! @#$% #@(@($#!!!!!!!

Its really odd, Civ 4 has gone back to Civ 1 and 2.
In Civ 3 they made a big improvement, barbarians could no longer unrealistically take your cities, and they didnt just pop out of nowhere either, they just plundered the place, realistically. If you ask me, the mistake to go back to the Civ 1 and 2 system was a BIG mistake, I liked the camps.

I liked camps too, but I hatedthat babs only got warriors and horsemen in
civ3. Besides, someof these "barbarians" actually built cities in history.

Once my holy city got taken by the barbs:( :eek: , took me 20 turns to get it back. the only good thing was that they didn't raze it:D

I remember in Civ3 I started up as a discovery nation and made my first town and took a gamble sending my explorer to a nearby indian camp. He poked his head in a teepee and out came a pack of angry natives all riled up. They cooked off the scout in a pinch and then came and finished off my hut in an orgy of angry pillaging and rape (well the one dude there was... you know...).

Barbs could be a lot better in the game if they did some more work on them to have rebel attacks using infantry and a tank or two out of the blue in modern times. Basically have random attacks using the approximated tech of the age in effect. They need to fix that cheap fog of war generation thingy unless they already have (haven't played for quite awhile) so they appear at random in the player's territory to represent rebel activities, gangs and private militias.

I've encountered Barbarian cities on Terra maps as big as 12, then captured them and grown them to 20+. Generally I think it's cool but there's one problem, namely that you can't enter into diplomacy with them. I don't mind that when they're small and minor (like in Civ 3) but when you're playing Terra and you show up in the new world to find six or seven barb cities, many of which are connected by culture and all of whom seem to be in league with each other (has anyone ever seen a barb attack another barb?), you start wishing you could communicate with them.

It would be sweet if a barbarian nation could evolve into a major power that you could trade with.

There is a mod which I have and I can't remember right now that will allow Barbs to spawn regular Civs.
On a terra map I've seen Barb cities as large as 14+ and covered on cities, I finally got a foot hold on the cont. and had to have about 10 units with promotion and medics to hold it. every turn they threw everything they had at me. I had 2 little tiles sticking out on a finger of land behind the city and that was the only resources I had. Every turn 10 or 20 barbs attaching. Only late in the game was I able to start moving out and taking some of there cities with modern armor.

But, it's strange if you think about it... Barbarians were nomads. I fthey founded a city thry would become a civ...
But I'm not complaning.

The word Barbarian is generic. Here's a definition:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/barbarian

1. An uncivilized or uncultured person, often associated with fighting or other such shows of strength.
2. Relating to people, countries, or customs perceived as uncivilized or inferior.

I think the second definition is the most important, as it's all about perception. Barbarians were not necessarily nomads. "Barbarian" is little more than a slur for someone who you felt as less civilized than yourself.

The Israeli's could be considered barbarians right now, depending on your point of view; advanced weapons, government, and laws, but willing to commit a brutal military campaign. The US can fall under this category too.

Again it's all based on your point of view.

The only thing you can do is look at barbarians from a gamplay view. You can't discuss the game with too many preconceived notions of what a barbarian is. I think it's safest to say that the barbarians are meant to be outside the normal system of civs in the game and meant to be a specific type of challenge throughout the game.

I like how they are handled in Civ4, at least so far. In civ3 barbarians were wicked and evil in the beginning but as time went on they were little more than fodder for your MAs (use multiple barbarians in one turn to make your units elite! :D ) Some people didn't like the idea of barbarians taking over cities, for whatever reason. As long as it's well balanced I welcome whatever incarnation of barbarians they come up with. As with all versions of civ, we should welcome new ideas and variations to work with! :)

It would be sweet if a barbarian nation could evolve into a major power that you could trade with.
I think that would be awesome too. I play a lot of archipelago based maps and it's great when you first get caravels and galleons to find "undiscovered" islands with large (6+) barbarian cities with improvements.

there is a mod called barbarianCiv somewhere on these boards that does just that... Barb cities turn into Civs which can end up really powerfull

The Israeli's could be considered barbarians right now, depending on your point of view; advanced weapons, government, and laws, but willing to commit a brutal military campaign. The US can fall under this category too.


that's exactly my point of view!
i always wondered why (of course i know why : sales) america would be considered a civ

The Israeli's could be considered barbarians right now, depending on your point of view; advanced weapons, government, and laws, but willing to commit a brutal military campaign. The US can fall under this category too.that's exactly my point of view!
i always wondered why (of course i know why : sales) america would be considered a civ

You two pinned it on the head. Isreal should have no right to terrorize their enemies like that. They have suppior firepower! Don't they understand that a truly civilized country is supposed to bend over and take it up the ass and say "thank you, may I have another."?

Doesn't Isreal and the US know that to be civilized you must shoot schoolchildren in the back, or force young girls to die in a fire because they shouldn't go outside without a face covering?

Don't they understand that the peacefull way to end a conflict is to saw off the heads of foriegn visitors, who are trying to improve the economic situation.

And let's not forget the true mark of a civilized people which is to high-jack a full passenger plane and fly it into a couple of buildings killing over 3000 non-combatant people.

Yeah, who does America and Isreal think they are!!????!?! they are the true terrorists!

So bombing a nation back into the stone age is not considered an act of terrorism...cool.

So bombing a nation back into the stone age is not considered an act of terrorism...cool.

No, you are so far off, that is obviously terrorism. Like I said, they should take it up the ass and say "thank you". How am I not making myself clear?

P.S. Palistine is not a nation, it is a territory. They rejected Isreal's offer of nationhood in, I believe, the 1950's

Why can't people keep politics out of harmless threads like these? All that happens is people yell their factless opinions at each other and the topic goes to hell.

Once, Sistuil turned a barb city into a Super Science City and capital.

And the Celts took Hittite, keeping it. And the barbs claimed Iron. Both got taken by me.

What Barbs Can NOT do (froim the SDK)

1. Diplomacy

2. Build
Palace, Versailles
Academies, Libraries, Universities, Observatories, Laboratories
Theatres, Broadcast Towers
Temples, Cathedrals, Monasteries, Shrines
National Wonders-Any of them
Great Library
Great Lighthouse
Oracle
Parthenon
Angkor Wat
Hagia Sophia
Chichen Itza
Sistine
Minaret
Notre Dame
Taj Mahal
Kremlin
Eiffel Tower
Statue of Liberty
Broadway, Rock+Roll, Hollywood
3 Gorges Dam
Pentagon
UN
Space Elevator

Settler (cities through capture and sponatneous appearance only)
Scout, Explorer, Spy
Missionary
Spears, Pikes
Musket, Infantry, SAMs, Marines, Mech Inf
Crossbow
Chariot, Knight, Cavalry, War Elephant
Tank, Modern Armor
Gunship
Catapult, Cannon, MachineGun, Artillery
Workboat, Caravel, Galleon, Ironclad, Transport,
Destroyer, Battleship, Submarine, Carrier
Fighter, Jet Fighter, Bomber, Stealth Bomber
ICBM
Great People

SS Parts
[I'm not sure if they can build the Manhattan Project/Internet because those are Projects like space ship parts]
3. be in the voting of the UN,
4. have a Score
5. win (Domination/Culture being the only ones left)
6. get WW/Cause WW

What barbarians CAN do
Discover/Change Civics, Discover Techs (getting Religions, etc.), Develop and work terrain, adjust their Slider, get internal trade routes

They CAN build
Barracks, Walls, Castles*, Drydocks, Bunkers, Bomb shelters
Granaries, Lighthouses, Harbors, Aqueducts
Marketplaces, Grocers, Banks, Supermarkets
Colluseums, Obelisks*, Jails
Forges, Factories, Coal/Nuclear/Hydro plants
Airports, Recycling Centers, Courthouses (I don't know how maintenance works for them... perhaps they don't pay any with no Palace)

*This is their only non-Wonder/Religion source of Culture

Stonehenge, Colossus, Pyramids

If they found a religion, or capture a Holy city, the religion can spread to their cities throught contact between their cities (they can't get it normally because wars stop religion movement)

Unit wise they can make

Workers
Warriors, Axes, Swords, Maces
Archers, Longbows
Riflemen, Grenadiers
Horse Archers
Galleys, Frigates

It would be cool if Barbs could build a ICBM, but when they start building it, you get a message saying that 'X city is building Nuclear Weapons'

You could then have a reason to go to war with them and could try and stop them building a nuke before they dump it on your best city :mischief:

barbs just %$#@ing own house in this game

No, you are so far off, that is obviously terrorism. Like I said, they should take it up the ass and say "thank you". How am I not making myself clear?

P.S. Palistine is not a nation, it is a territory. They rejected Isreal's offer of nationhood in, I believe, the 1950's

you have no clue what so ever.

Israel while "defending" itself took over all of Palestine and has been occupying Palestine for about 33 years. All the Palestine people are treated as 2nd class humans, and are oppressed so badly that they are forced to do "acts of terrorism"...... id call it fighting the oppressors myself... as does most of the world, except America, UK and Israel itself.

Palestine deserves its state back, back to the 1948 borders WE, the UK made....But whenever Israel offer Palestine its land back.... its often only 50% of what is really theres.

check out these two pix. here is the barbarian city of sakea. i found it playing on a huge terra map. i put a spy in there to see how the cultural borders got so huge. as you can see, they built stonehenge.

I took Apache from barbs and now it'll be my wealth city.

I have seen a Colossus in a barb city in a Terra map game :cool:

I am more barbaric and warmonger than my barbs! Builder barbarians:crazyeye:

I had a size 17 barb city in one of my games. I'll try and find a screenie.

Okay, the most hilarious thing happened in my current game - a single barbarian city has somehow managed to survive into the modern era, and my allies the Celts have now nuked it twice. It's on an island that's being shared by about four other civs, and I'm sure any one of them could have taken the city easily, but for some reason never did.

Before:
140410

After:
140411

This has been by far the best game of Civ I've ever had, which I'll have to describe in a different post.

you have no clue what so ever.

Israel while "defending" itself took over all of Palestine and has been occupying Palestine for about 33 years. All the Palestine people are treated as 2nd class humans, and are oppressed so badly that they are forced to do "acts of terrorism"...... id call it fighting the oppressors myself... as does most of the world, except America, UK and Israel itself.

Palestine deserves its state back, back to the 1948 borders WE, the UK made....But whenever Israel offer Palestine its land back.... its often only 50% of what is really theres.

Even the Palestinians themselves would have a chuckle at this. And not just at the grammar and spelling errors. :crazyeye: :lol:

Even the Palestinians themselves would have a chuckle at this. And not just at the grammar and spelling errors. :crazyeye: :lol:


oooooooh noooooooooo the spelling police are here:rolleyes:

I dont like the idea of barbs being able to do that
they're not technically barbs, i dont care what definition you use

My favorite thing with barbs is when they capture a civ's capital. I was playing a large game with continents; when I get astronomy and begin looking at other civs, I found not one, but two civs on two separate continents that were small as could be (about 3 cities each) and were still using axemen (I was up to granadiers). Upon further inspection, I see that the barbs owned those civ capitals and many, many burned cities were all over. Essentially, these ai civs must have been overwhelmed with barbs early and could not put up enough resistance to keep their capital, but did hold their other city. poor civs, I invaded them mercilessly.

One map I remeber I set to max barbarion attack rates, and hooboy was it hard, and pissed me right off how the other civs never understand that the bigest threat is not me or other civs, but the big ass barbarion armies readly to rape and raze some cities to the ground

It would be sweet if a barbarian nation could evolve into a major power that you could trade with.
Look for the Revolution Mod by jdog1000. In that, if barbs get strong enough, they form their own nations.

From my latest Archipelago huge game (w/betterAI 1/1). The difficulty is only Chief... :(


There are several barbarian "empires" with stacks of riflemen and grenadiers. They also put the Chineese at 500 score in the 1900s... :P

Palestine deserves its state back, back to the 1948 borders WE, the UK made....But whenever Israel offer Palestine its land back.... its often only 50% of what is really theres.Well considering how long it took for the UK to move out of Ireland (mostly), or the amount of land stolen by the US from the native Americans (I'd laugh really hard if you would suggest to the US to give at least 50% of it's territory back to the Native Americans), I'd say Israel is the most civilized of the UK, US and Israel. The French were also perfectly willing to settle with 40% of their country after being invaded by the Nazis.

Well, enough comparing apples and oranges. I'd say the issue is debatable. But calling whichever side barbaric is not going to help either side's argument.

Well considering how long it took for the UK to move out of Ireland (mostly), or the amount of land stolen by the US from the native Americans (I'd laugh really hard if you would suggest to the US to give at least 50% of it's territory back to the Native Americans), I'd say Israel is the most civilized of the UK, US and Israel. The French were also perfectly willing to settle with 40% of their country after being invaded by the Nazis.


SAY WHAT about us Americans being uncivilized??? It's not that the citizens that are 'barbaric', it's that Bush and Chaney are stupid and barbaric, and they fill all the other powerful spots with thier friends. Most citizens are 100% against what Bush is doing. About what happened with the Native Americans, yes: that was wrong. However, remember that ALL of the european countries did that. Anyway, on topic, I was playing on Hatsheptut on a pangea map with maybe 9/8 other civs? I had about 3000 points, then what happened? Barbarians with ARTILLERY and STEALTH BOMBERS. Needless to say, my whole civilization was lost.

SAY WHAT about us Americans being uncivilized??? It's not that the citizens that are 'barbaric', it's that Bush and Chaney are stupid and barbaric, and they fill all the other powerful spots with thier friends. Most citizens are 100% against what Bush is doing. About what happened with the Native Americans, yes: that was wrong. However, remember that ALL of the european countries did that.

He's talking about the seizing of Native American land, which runs far before Bush even existed. Saying Bush & Friends are why the nation is barbaric does not explain centuries of actions.

Now, you claim that it wasn't barbaric to take land from the indians because other countries did it. Is it okay to shoplift if other people are doing it? Is it okay to murder if other people do it? No. The fact that several European nations stole entire continents merely means that several European nations were barbaric at the time.

If you see invading other people's land and possibly exterminating them so that you can have the land as barbaric, then yes, the US has been barbaric for the majority of its history.

Now, I generally think of barbaric as being the opposite of civilized and being civilized as having cities/writing/government/etc., so I wouldn't use that word to describe American actions.

He's talking about the seizing of Native American land, which runs far before Bush even existed. Saying Bush & Friends are why the nation is barbaric does not explain centuries of actions.

Now, you claim that it wasn't barbaric to take land from the indians because other countries did it. Is it okay to shoplift if other people are doing it? Is it okay to murder if other people do it? No. The fact that several European nations stole entire continents merely means that several European nations were barbaric at the time.

If you see invading other people's land and possibly exterminating them so that you can have the land as barbaric, then yes, the US has been barbaric for the majority of its history.

Now, I generally think of barbaric as being the opposite of civilized and being civilized as having cities/writing/government/etc., so I wouldn't use that word to describe American actions.

something i would like to point out is that any country in the americas, australia, or any other continent that isnt ruled by people that have been here for 1000s of years is barbaric and you cant say i am wrong since barbarian is the greek/roman word for foreigner... i believe that is in the civilopedia on civ4. The reason why barbarian is now an insult is that to the romans any foreigner seems like what we consider barbarians and most of us now how roman thought effected all of us through the RoR scenarios.

Back to the point of this thread... on terra maps i have seen very large barbarian cities sizes from 5-14 but i havent seen them use units better than macemen, longbowman, around those guys. Also i beleive that with version 2.08 barbarians cant build wonders.

As my title say's, STAY ON TOPIC!!:mad: This is about a game not life. admitedly i'd say that the Worlds nations arn't perfect, but wait until ur 16 - 17 where u will get a say in matters of the world. This is about a game not the world so just chill.:cool:

Anyway I think it would be good to be able to make Barbarions Civs, I have only played a few games and got kiked in all of them I can summarise that barbarions are perfectly modeled as i can imagine barbarion nations rising and falling with the other civs.

He's talking about the seizing of Native American land, which runs far before Bush even existed. Saying Bush & Friends are why the nation is barbaric does not explain centuries of actions.

Now, you claim that it wasn't barbaric to take land from the indians because other countries did it. Is it okay to shoplift if other people are doing it? Is it okay to murder if other people do it? No. The fact that several European nations stole entire continents merely means that several European nations were barbaric at the time.

If you see invading other people's land and possibly exterminating them so that you can have the land as barbaric, then yes, the US has been barbaric for the majority of its history.

Now, I generally think of barbaric as being the opposite of civilized and being civilized as having cities/writing/government/etc., so I wouldn't use that word to describe American actions.

Europe has done worse things than america has such as slowly torturing people to death or exterminating people because their religeon was different if that qualifies as barbarienism then the whole globe is mostly barbariens