View Full Version : Sibhialtacht v2.01 - The Irish Mod
celtic_bhoy Jan 07, 2002, 12:35 PM The St. Patrick's Day v2.01 includes:
*Irish Civilization
*All city names in Irish (Gaeilge) (+ Iúr Cinn Trá for Wolfe Tone)
*Special Unit: IRA Volunteers (War of Independence)
*Unique graphics for IRA Volunteers
*New Government: Brehon Law
*New Wonder: Book of Kells & GAA
*New Techs: Brehon Law & Guerrilla Warfare
*Still (unanimated) De Valera leaderheads
*Civilopedia entries for Ireland, IRA Volunteers, Brehon Law, GAA & Book of Kells
*Fixed problem in 2.00 with IRA Volunteers - now they require Guerrilla Warfare to be built.
The Irish civ replaces the Iroquois. I don't believe that there are any more bugs. If you do find one, please let me know - brendan.ryan@oceanfree.net Sorry for anyone trying to get me at my old email address, but it's been down for some time now.
Version 3.00 - Christmas 2002
*Removal of existing bugs
*Altering unit and gov files
*New leader: Charles Stewart Parnell
Help Wanted For Next Version (release c.Christmas 2002):
*Animated Leaderheads
*Help with automatic install/uninstall batch file
*Testing reports
*your_suggestion_here
Any suggestions for next version?
Version 1.00 removed after 10 downloads
Version 1.01 removed after 225 downloads
Version 2.00 removed after 1 download
celtic_bhoy Jan 07, 2002, 12:52 PM Just in case you're wondering, I had to close the last Sibhialtacht thread because there was a problem uploading files.
Shaitan: As I said in the last thread, you're welcome to use Brehon Law and the city names in your mod (this inspiration for my own!).
Wolfe Tone: I was at a game in Clones in '97 when Tipp beat down in the q/final. Down really surprised me in the first half. You would be much stronger if you could get more clubs started up there. Are you on the Ards pen?
Shaitan Jan 08, 2002, 06:33 AM Mod looks great! I found a couple of civilopedia fixes for you. Check these sections:
#GCON_Unit_Support
add ^Brehon Law 2 4 8
#GCON_Governments
change ^* $LINK<Democracy=GOVT_Brehon_Law> to ^* $LINK<Brehon Law=GOVT_Brehon_Law>
#GCON_Hurry_Production
add Brehon Law link to the "pay for hurrying" governments.
celtic_bhoy Jan 09, 2002, 01:00 AM Thanks Shaitan, it's really tedious trying to go through all those long, endless Civilopedia files. Still taking suggestions for next version v1.02/v2.00 which I hope will be out Friday/Saturday.
Shaitan Jan 09, 2002, 06:45 AM Happy to help :)
I have a couple of ideas for new wonders:
Replace the Forbidden Palace with the Stone of Scone. I know it's more properly a Scottish item but what the heck - the Scots were Irish too!
The Blarney Stone - Increases happiness, decent culture bonus.
Replace Sun Tzu with Dagda's Caldron. Duplicates the caldron's ability to restore health to dead and wounded soldiers.
celtic_bhoy Jan 09, 2002, 02:23 PM Thanks for the suggestions. The Stone of Scone is a good one, maybe I could broaden the mod to include Scotland. I'm not sure about the Blarney Stone :lol: It's generally regarded as more of a cheap tourist attraction than anything of significant cultural value. Dagda's Cauldron is another good one, but how do you think I might simulate the effects you spoke about?
I'm including a list of the Irish placenames in the mod, complete with their anglicised translations for non-Irish speakers and Irish people who can't speak their first official language :). Here it goes...
Baile Átha Cliath - Dublin
Béal Feirste - Belfast
Corcaigh - Cork
Luimneach - Limerick
Gailleamh - Galway
Cill Chainnigh - Kilkenny
Port Láirge - Waterford
Doire - Derry
Ard Mhacha - Armagh
Baile Átha Luain - Athlone
Caiseal - Cashel
Trá Lí - Tralee
Durlas - Thurles
Cluain Mhic Nóis - Clonmacnoise
Baile Átha an Rí - Athenry
Maigh Nuad - Maynooth
Cill Mhantáin - Wicklow
Dún Dealgan - Dundalk
Loch Gorman - Wexford
An Muileann gCearr - Mullingar
Ceatharlach - Carlow
Tulach Mhór - Tullamore
Tiobraid Árann - Tipperary
Port Omna - Portumna
Béal an Átha - Ballina
Mala - Mallow
Inis Ceithlinn - Enniskillen
Ceanannas - Kells
Cionn tSáile - Kinsale
Gleann Dá Loch - Glendalough
Muineachán - Monaghan
Inis - Ennis
Sligeach - Sligo
Cluain Meala - Clonmel
Droichead Átha - Drogheda
Latharna - Larne
Brú na Boinne - Newgrange
An tSionainn - Shannon
Most of them are modern large towns, but some such as Chluain Mhic Nóis, Baile Átha an Rí, Brú na Boinne and Gleann Dá Loch are there for historical/cultural reasons.
Don't forget...version 1.02/2.00 to be released next weekend
Shaitan Jan 10, 2002, 07:10 AM For the cauldron: There's no way to bring back the dead but if it replaces Sun Tzu it will have the effect of healing wounded units when they spend a turn in a city (barracks in each city).
For the Blarney stone: How about a bonus to economics then? Simulates tourism.
Another little bug - You need a civilopedia graphic for Brehon Law and an entry in the "#Non-Tech Govts" section of the pediaicons.txt file.
celtic_bhoy Jan 11, 2002, 12:17 PM *New Techs: Brehon Law & Guerrilla Warfare
- Brehon Law allows Brehon Law Government
- Guerrilla Warfare allows the production of the IRA Volunteers
*New Wonder: GAA
- The Gaelic Athletic Association will be added in an attempt simulate the revival of cultural nationalism in the late 19th century Ireland. The GAA is now one of the largest (possibly the largest) independent voluntary sporting organizations in the world.
*De Valera still graphics, as leaderhead. I'm still looking into this one, and will decide on it's addition based on it's aesthetic value.
*New placenames (about 5 being considered)
*Automatic installation batch files
*Adds Ireland, without removing Iroquois (17 civs, but still in testing)
*Additions to Civilopedia
*watch_this_space
Wolfe Tone Jan 12, 2002, 02:06 PM I can't wait for the next version.
How about adding Iur Cinn Trá/Newry (I think that's the right spelling) to the list of cities it used to be a pretty important trading post
I think the GAA should enhance the effect of collesums as well as generating a huge cultural value, well it has spread to the US and Australia (I love those Compromise rules matches.) The GAA wonder should have the image of Croke Park (when it city view) with a couple of tri-colours around it
celtic_bhoy Jan 14, 2002, 03:05 PM Version 2.00 has been delayed... sorry... but hopefully it should be ready by next weekend. There's still a few things I have to wrap up in the design, then there's the testing. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to provide the 17 civs option, because the game keeps crashing in the advisor screen. I'll provide a screenshot soon.
shonuff Jan 16, 2002, 02:20 PM Hey there,
I've been working on an Irish mod myself for awhile, but I'm focusing more on the ancient Irish, BEFORE all the occupation and whatnot. I'll post it as soon as I've got it set up, but this is my first mod, so it's taking me awhile, and I've run into a major problem... For the mod, I replaced Rome with Ireland, and the special unit is the Fianna, which replaces the Legionary. The problem is that whenever I finish building a Fianna unit in one of my cities, the game gives me an error and craps out. I'm thinking that there is probably something I'm missing about swapping out units/civs, but I can't figure out what it is. Did anyone else run into this problem or hear of it at all?
Thanks,
Ryan
Shaitan Jan 17, 2002, 06:28 AM You need an ART file for the unit. As it is now, the game doesn't know what image to use for the unit because there's nothing associated with "Fianna".
The easiest way to create a new unit is to use Gramphos' CopyTool (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7787). It will set up an ART folder with the necessary files.
Wolfe Tone Feb 02, 2002, 09:03 AM So when will the next version of this mod be released. I'm looking forward to seeing De Valera's leaderhead
Irish Caesar Feb 16, 2002, 09:52 AM It's great to see an Irish mod...maybe a new luxury item for Waterford crystal?
irish_soldier Feb 17, 2002, 06:20 PM This is a great mod, I can't wait to see the future versions.
I amde my own Irish civ for Civ3, but I obviously didn't go as in depth as you ;) I have Brian Boru as their leader and the IRA Soldiers and Celts as special units. I've figured out how to make another civ spot, so I don't have to worry about replacing any civs.
PS. How come you decided to make DeValera the leader? Obviously I'm not an Irish citizen, but I know a good chunk of the history and from what I understand he wasn't the most beloved leader.
joycem10 Feb 22, 2002, 01:05 PM Anything new here? Im looking forward to trying out the new version.
Wolfe Tone Feb 23, 2002, 11:30 AM Well celtic_bhoy hasn't posted in a month so I think this is a lost cause
Shaitan Feb 23, 2002, 01:34 PM [Shameless plug] The Irish still thrive in the British Isles mod [/Shameless plug]
celtic_bhoy Mar 17, 2002, 11:27 AM Yes, it's back for St. Patrick's Day. Please keep reporting any errors and submitting ideas for future versions.
celtic_bhoy Mar 19, 2002, 02:04 PM As far as v2.02 goes, it's really going to be a fix of some problems in 2.01. I might also get a new DeValera graphic.
Changes will include:
- corrected Civilopedia
- toned-down IRA Volunteers & GAA
- changes to Brehon Law
Mark132 Mar 25, 2002, 05:43 AM Greetings!
Thank you for outstanding Irish mod! But in the ver. 2.01 I see a bug. There is something wrong with icons. When I discover Feudalism, I see an icon of Flight. There is only one example. Generally icons are mismatched - maybe something wrong witch "Pedia Icons" file?Previous version of "sibialtacht" with Civ3
1.16f worked perfectly. Now I have Civ3 1.17f and your mod in 2.01 - and I have problems too:) Can you fix it? Thank you from advance.
Shaitan Mar 25, 2002, 06:13 AM Originally posted by Mark132
Greetings!
Thank you for outstanding Irish mod! But in the ver. 2.01 I see a bug. There is something wrong with icons. When I discover Feudalism, I see an icon of Flight. There is only one example. Generally icons are mismatched - maybe something wrong witch "Pedia Icons" file?Previous version of "sibialtacht" with Civ3
1.16f worked perfectly. Now I have Civ3 1.17f and your mod in 2.01 - and I have problems too:) Can you fix it? Thank you from advance.
Currently this can't be fixed. The icon number pulled for the tech completion splash window is not editable. Things gets scrambled like you have described whenever a technology is added or removed. Hopefully this problem will be fixed in the next patch from Firaxis.
lozz666 Jul 05, 2002, 04:45 PM so an irish mod with the IRA glorified? why not have gas chambers and things as the german special unit they could be really beneficial too. I hope you are just an ignorant American who thinks he's Irish not someone who actually knows how evil the IRA actually are. THey've killed comparable numbers of innocents to Osama Bin Laden yet fools still glorify them. I dont object to having an Irish civ but to glorify the IRA is totally wrong and an insult to those who have died fighting these terrorists.
Baron Scot Jul 05, 2002, 06:33 PM i agree with lozz, the ira is a very noticable member of the irish community. but to give them a UU is glorifing them.
american UU - Klansman
german - new improvement concentration camp, UU - skinhead
(arab nation) - terrorist (this is a generization and i do not believe all arab nations harbor terrorism, nor do i think all members of these nations are terrorist)
every civ has its high and low points. i do not believe we need to glorify the lows, or make them have any significance over the men and women who make our countries great
LiTHiuM Jul 14, 2002, 03:08 PM I disagree (strongly) about the whole IRA Volunteer thing.
But I tried the latest version, It needs a lot of work. Doesnt seem to be going anywhere. im going back to playing the british isles mod one :P
Nobby Jul 15, 2002, 03:01 PM Actualy lozz666 i think you misunderstand the ira unit in this mod. the unit in this mod i believe is based on the origional ira(not the terrorists) that was an army that faught around 1916 - 1920 to gain independence from britian.Thats why in the earlier post when the describing the unit it has "war of independence" typed after it,these soldiers were volunteers and not terrorists. The ira you and a couple of other seem to referring to is the later ira formed and most active in the 1960s give or take a decade who faught for seperation in northern ireland and who are terrorists hence took the name of a former independence great army from the past as many terrorist groups do. Not that ive played this mod or anything but i hope that clears up your concerns as i too would be concerned if terrorists were glorified in any mod...
LiTHiuM Jul 15, 2002, 03:54 PM *pokes nobby* you contradicting someone on my countries history?
First of all, the IRA, was and IS, a Terrorist organisation. things may have changed but it was formed from the off to combat the British police and army, and the UVF, which was basically the same only in northern ireland (Note: larne Gun running)
the UVF too, were and still are terrorists. People change, but the 1960's IRA is the same IRA that was formed around 1920. somewhere from 19-21, the IRA had no part in the Easter Rising of 1916 I do belive. ive seen the bulletholes on the GPO, most impressive.
If your going to base a unit on anything on Irish history, it should be something Celtic for the Celts of ireland, not a unit from one of the most contraversial recent nation histories on earth.
Hope that helps nobby.
Nobby Jul 15, 2002, 08:11 PM Not that i want to argue with you or anything lithium but i would disagree with a couple of those points. Firstly you say the 1919 ira is the same that operated in the 1960's
The origional ira(formaly irb(your 1916 connection)) was formed to fight the activities of the black and tans and faught in regiments ie kilmeacheal ambush. The treaty with britian was signed in 1921 which granted amnesty to the ira memebers that accepted it and accepted them as freedom fighters not terrorists (as the british government had painted them ).
Now what you seem to be saying is that collins who was leader of the ira and was main negotiater when the treaty was signed with britian and than became head of state was a terrorist?
Your refering to the minority who continued to fight in northern ireland which continued on using the name ira to present day who arent associated with the origional memebers who got the treaty which i think the person who made this mod was trying to represent?
By the way i also think a celtic unit would be more appropiate for a mod
LiTHiuM Jul 16, 2002, 10:15 AM collins WAS a terrorist. Wasnt he assassinated anyways?
joycem10 Jul 19, 2002, 11:25 AM Collins was assasinated by Republicans who were against the free state treaty that Collins negotaite with the british for De Valera. the treaty partitioned ireland and did not create an irish republic, only the irish free state which would still be affiliated with the british crown.
On a side note, are there people who cruise the modpack boards just looking for things that offend them. If you dont like his mod dont dowload it. Every freaking thread on modpacks that I have read today contains at least a couple of posts of people complaining about being offended. relax.
Baron Scot Jul 19, 2002, 05:51 PM <crams all the info into head>
better than my history class
Gromit Oct 02, 2002, 10:11 PM The 1919 IRA was the Army of Freedom Fighters that got Independence from Britain. Collins was one of them The 1960's IRA was the 'Provisional' IRA, hence the term 'provos'. This was a terrorist organisation and was formed because the 'Old' IRA was exactly that, 'Old' in its thinking.
Esuh Feb 10, 2004, 12:22 PM For the cauldron, what about replacing it with battlefield medicine?
Tathlum Feb 10, 2004, 05:10 PM Jaysus,
Did you use the cauldron to ressurect this thread? Look at the dates! I doubt you'll get a reply to a two year old thread...
Rhye Feb 10, 2004, 05:16 PM I didn't notice this thread when it was done the.
I love Ireland and this mod is well done. Very useful for a scenario or a Europe modification.
BTW, what does Sibhialtacht mean?
Tathlum Feb 11, 2004, 05:16 AM It means civilisation.
And since this thread is allready resurectected can I point out that the Stone of Scone is originally the Lia Fail so is Irish anyway, without the connection from the fact that the Scots were Irish.
civ4us2006 May 09, 2006, 10:59 AM Can't play. Can not load the Book of Kells.
Tathlum Jul 19, 2006, 08:28 AM Sorry dude, this mod was for vanilla civ so you probably wont get it to work, and if you did its very outdated, static leaderhead etc...
The creater hasnt posted in about 4 and a half years.
I dont think it will be fixed. The last post before yours was over 2 years ago. It basically a dead mod and a dead thread.
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