This is my second attempt to make a story.
I want to make this time a game a bit different than normal stories, when the player announces the civ he's playing with, the map, barbs, world size and difficulty. This time I want others to tell me how should I start. :)
So, please, tell me what should I choose. Because it's impossible to make a poll for each setting (civ, map size, map type, water coverage, barbs and difficulty) I will simply count the votes for each option.

For those who are interested, here are the votes:
CIVILIZATION I should choose (I only have Vanilla):
- France (3)
- Random (2)
- Rome (1)
- England (2)
- Persia (2)
- Russia (1)
- Zulu (2)

MAP SIZE :
- Large (3)
- Small (3)
- Huge (4)
- Standard (2)
- Random (1)

MAP TYPE :
- Continents (8)
- Pangaea (4)
- Random (1)

WATER COVERAGE :
- 80% water (3)
- 70% water (6)
- 60% water (3)
- Random (1)

BARBARIANS :
- Raging (7)
- Sedentary (2)
- Roaming (2)
- Restless (1)
- Random (1)

DIFFICULTY LEVEL :
- Emperor (13)

THE STORY STARTED!!!!!!
France, Huge, Continents, 70% water, Raging Barbarians, Emperor (wow, too hard, I'll really need some advice).

The first chapter is post #50, in page 3.

France, Large, Continents, Maximum water, raging barbs, one difficulty level higher than you normally play.

England, large, terra, normal water, raging barbarians (it's fun to see them on the new continent, noble

Thanks for posting! Editing the original right now. What means "terra"? What "noble"? You are in Civ3, not Civ4.

BTW, Lapoleon, congratulations for your first post.

I can't count what Lapoleon said for the moment. I don't know what to write at map type and difficulty.

BTW, I'm thinking at "closing" the "poll" on 1st of December. Is it too early or late?

Seems that Lapoleon got the wrong forum. This is Civ3, not Civ4.

Whenever, my patience is infinite.

Random civ
Large map
Continents
70% water
No barbs
Emperor

Romans
Small
Pangaea
60% water
Raging Barbarians
Deity BWHAHAHAHAHAA, um, well, no. Emperor.

It was a bit stupid, my first post, and I make a stupid mistake. :cry: Oh well, since we're in civ 3 here, I'd like to see:
England, huge, continents, 70 % water, raging Barbarians, Emperor

Thanks everyone! Editing right now.

Edit: It's great to have so many posters. Maybe if this thread is going to continue like this, I'll start playing earlier :D

Edit 2: To DvD-IT: I would prefer not Rome. Almost all my games were with Rome. I love that civ, I love your country (I lived there and speak the language a bit) but I'd like to try something new. Of course, if most of the votes would be for Rome I'll choose it, at least I'm sure I know how to play with this civ. Just saying it. If anyone wants to vote for Rome do it, I don't mind at all, of course.

Persia; Standart; Pangaea; 60 % water; No Barbs; Emperor.

Russia; Huge; Continents; 80% water; Raging barbs; Emperor

I'm glad you like it, Mirc, it's a pleasure for me to hear that.
But still, voters decide :P

People? Vote for Rome! Er, uh, do whatever you want.

OK, DvD!

First post edited. Thanks everyone. :D :D

BTW, I hope I'll post my 300th post here.

There is a difference between sedentary barbs and no barbs at all.

What do you mean? In my game I can only choose sedentary, not "no barbs" so even if it's a difference I can't use no barbs.

Doesn't it look like this? If not, then OK.

I'm glad you like it, Mirc, it's a pleasure for me to hear that.
But still, voters decide :P

People? Vote for Rome! Er, uh, do whatever you want.

Mirc, you should choose Zulu just to make DVD happy :)

France, 60%, Pangaea, Emperor, normal/normal/normal climate.

EDIT: Emsworth, it's Vanilla. There're like three choices :D

Thanks, Azash. Editing like now.

In my game it looks like this:

Is this because I don't have 1.29f? It didn't worked. Maybe that's why I don't have "No barbs".

300th POST!!!!!!!
:bday: :beer: :dance: :band: :rockon: :woohoo:

EDIT: Emsworth, it's Vanilla. There're like three choices :D


Vanilla (Mac 1.29b2) is what I got. Maybe you just need the latest patches.

Is this because I don't have 1.29f? It didn't worked. Maybe that's why I don't have "No barbs".

300th POST!!!!!!!
:bday: :beer: :dance: :band: :rockon: :woohoo:


Very likely.

Yes, the patch didn't work. I have a lot of problems with this. It installs correctly, but doesn't have any effect.

Please post!!!
Don't like to quote myself, but please!!!

Oh, come on, people! I want to start the game, how am I supposed to do his without more votes????

I'm going to include a link to this story in my sig, because nobody is voting!

Mirc, you should choose Zulu just to make DVD happy


Er, uhm, sure! But then Mirc must lose.
Fear the Roman Power! Bwhahahaha.

Unfortunately, most of the people following this forum 'transferred' to CivIV apparently. You should let people vote for a second preferred choice to avoid such situations.

Okay, everyone can choose a second option. Just make sure it's not the same :) It wouldn't help at all.

Oh, come on! VOTE!!!

I'm going to start this story even if I'll vote 20 times myself.

France is in the lead, so I´ll follow that with my vote.

Mapsize small, cuz I want to see action soon!

Continents with 70% standard is okay.

Barbs raging of course. :satan:

Difficulty Emperor is good - if you feel you can take it, that is.

Plus an extra vote for "first start rolled is to be taken" !! :p

Zulu (!)
Small
Pangaea with 70%
Restless
Emperor
- With the clause that, if Mirc is forced to choose Zulu, he must lose.

:P

Finally!!!! VOTES!!!!!!!!!
Editing the first post right now (I have to answer the phone first).

BTW, thanks for the "first start" vote, Twonky. If anyone wants, please vote for this option too.

Edit: DvD, don't worry, I don't think Zulu will win the elections.

Edit 2: In fact I don't feel like I can take Emperor. It's going to be very hard. Someone said: 1 level more than you usually play, so I had to write Emperor. Then, everybody voted for Emperor.

everything random except difficulty demigod

Edit 2: In fact I don't feel like I can take Emperor. It's going to be very hard. Someone said: 1 level more than you usually play, so I had to write Emperor. Then, everybody voted for Emperor.

I suggest you either choose to play one level higher than usual or take the first start rolled. Both might give you too much of a challenge. :)

ignas, I said 2 times, I DON'T HAVE CONQUESTS! What "Demigod"?

England
Huge
Continents
70% water
Roaming

Persia
Large
Continents
70% water
Raging Barbs
Emperor

Thanks everyone! This thread is coming back to life!
RoboPig, I presume you said Emperor, anyway it is so far ahead that I don't see how anything could change it.

Editing the first post...

I have to wait for ignas to answer, but anyway Emperor will win.

Edit: I'll merge the new votes with the other ones maybe. I considered making an old vote to count as much as 2 new ones, but I think it's not good.

- With the clause that, if Mirc is forced to choose Zulu, he must lose.

:P
And why would you like this?

Because I have a special feeling with Shaka. He must pay for his cruelty. And Impis. Their damn 2 tiles movement.
Therefore, Zulu can't win.

Simple as that :D

Zulu [!!!]
Raging
Continents
Huge
Wet
Emperor

i did mean emperor.

Thanks, Kraznaya and RoboPig.
DvD, I mean, why would you want me to lose?
Kraznaya, you didn't vote before, so I'll count your vote as an old one. Anyway, I will merge them very soon.

OK, sorry for not editing the first post and for the long wait. I'm back now, my computer had some problems.

If nobody has anything to say, I'll start tomorrow or the day after.

I STARTED THE STORY!!!
FRANCE, HUGE, CONTINENTS, 70% WATER, RAGING BARBS, EMPEROR, anything else random.

I started to look for a good position, but I can't start writing the story until I learn how to post the images in the middle of the text, not at the end. Please explain to me this.

Use an image server like ImageShack (www.imageshack.us) to upload your images, then post the image link this way:

your_link_here

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5921/image1nj.jpg

OK, I'll try this soon. Probably in 1-2 hours. I'll edit this post and try to include an image, and maybe start the story.

I now try to post images like DvD (:cool:) told me.
First time I tried to start the game I got this amazing position. But because this game is on Emperor and I never tried this before, instead of starting a normal game, I created a map with the editor and clicked "load scenario" so that I'm able to see if the position is good.
Look at it:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3568/start010em.jpg

(If I understood well, an image should appear above this.)
But I found out that the place isn't good at all. It's full of deserts at the north-east, mountains at the north west and plains at the south. Also no iron or Salpeter. After hours of trying new start positions I found a relatively good one. For the moment I don't post it, I just want to try what DvD (:cool:) said.

Thank you, DvD-IT (:cool:).

CHAPTER ONE: THE BEGGINING

After hours of trying to get a good start position I eventually found one. It's in some grasslands with cattles, a few hills and very few tiles with mountains. But the terrain isn't the most important, the best thing is that I have a lot of space to expand, both south, west and north. The best is to expand west. At the north there are too many tundra tiles and at the south too many plains and grasslands (Edit: grasslands? I mean deserts and some flood plains). I know a civ started at the south and one started at the west of me. Because it's just a map I can't say what civs they are (I loaded the game and looked where I started, then tried to locate that position on the map, but the map doesn't show me what civs are my neighbours. It's very good that I have a lot of grasslands full of cattles at the west (about 11 cattles), and I have iron right to the north. I don't have any luxuries, and happiness it's a problem on Emperor. Only some silks. Unfortunately I don't have any salpeter and the civ who started south has 3 or 4 very close. Looks like I'll have to capture some cities :evil:.

Look at the start:

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9011/realstart5xh.jpg

And here's a bit of the map:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6807/mapstart7bq.jpg.


So, some questions before I start the game. Of course I'll settle down right where I'm now. My first question is about the worker. Should I first move it to irrigate that wheat? Should I start making roads or terrain enhancements first?

For now, this is all. After I receive some help from this forum, I'll really start the story. I mean, make it interesting, because for the moment it's just a start.

Edit: Should I resize a bit the images?
On the second image it's clear where I started, isn't it?

Edit 2: That sotuhern civ started somewhere near that dyes.

To make the map better for use, I created this one too:

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/381/mapstart26to.jpg

The pictures look good on my laptop, but you may want to resize them to be smaller so people with smaller monitors can see the entire picture.

OK! Any other suggestions?

Sometimes you may need to crop portions of your pictures. Like your first one, you don't really need all that black. Like this

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9387/realstart5x2h1el.jpg

Thank you, DvD! That 4000 BC in the up-left part of the image is copied from the info box that is in the right down corner?

I hope I'll update this story today (it's my father's birthday and I'm not sure I'll have time).

It's going to be very hard to update this, because I have a very important guitar contest this weekend. Probably I'll continue the next week.

Just some short notes:
I can try to build a city on the salpeter that is in the flood plains in the south east or next to the salpeter near that goody hut, but if I do this, I'm very sure that the 3rd civilization will build to many cities on the grasslands and will steal them from me.
What's better: should I try to get that salpeter or expand west in the grasslands?

What's better: should I try to get that salpeter or expand west in the grasslands?

Take all the grassland, filled with all those beautiful cows. Later, you can settle or capture the desert area. Saltpeter and it's use is a long way off. Also settle any luxuries within reach.

OK, I'll do this. Thanks a lot.
Unfortunately, that Silks are the only luxury I can get.

All I can saz is that the storz is not dead (again I donţt have ineternet conection on mz computer, and this one replaces the y with z and the ' with ţ).

Also, the game is progressing fantastic, better than in mz dreams!
The French are great, never tried them before. Thanks to those who voted them. The GL was easz to build :).

I will update this soon, as soon as the network administrator cames back from vacation. Probablz Januarz the 3rd or 4th.

CHAPTER TWO: THE EXPANSION

As Takeo said, I'm expanding west to take that beautiful grasslands with cows. This was a very good suggestion. I still had to build a city to the relatively arid regions of the south, because there are some silks. Surprisingly fast, I meet the Persians. They are expanding more than they should. They are taking some of my grasslands! I'm a fan of very early warmongering, so before they even noticed a warrior that became Veteran by winning a battle with a barbarian marched inside the borders of the city Arbela. The battle is won (!) and now I have more cities! But the Persians are really strong so they bring 3 archers and a warrior to take that city back.
Here, the difference between humans and AIs becomes obvious. Because they didn't wait to bring all the Archers and the Warrior in the same time, with the help of a mountain that offers some defensive bonus, I could manage to keep the city. I made peace and got 60 gold out of the deal.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7039/sixcities8jo.jpg
During the war, the Persians didn't know any other civ and we had exactly the same technologies. I see a warrior getting close to one of my completely undefended cities, and I start to think if they are going to attack. I contact them and say :Withdraw your troops or declare war! Looks like they didn't want to attack. But I had a very good idea of verifing if they have any techs to trade. I have a great surprise: they contacted all the civs from the continent, and are at the end of the Anceint Age. I buy all the contacts and then trade with all the civs for their techs. Then I got my money back back selling the techs to the weakest civs. Now everyone is polite towards me, I'm at the end of the AA and I have the biggest treasure in the world. Also I have a tech that nobody else has: Literature. I started very early the prebuild for the GL, and only 6 turns after the discovery of Literature I already have THE GREAT LIBRARY!. Science is set to 0% and I get a lot of free techs. Soon I enter middle ages.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/4339/greatlibrary2be.jpg

Probably another update in a few minutes.

CHAPTER THREE: THE EARLY MIDDLE AGES
I have the strange impression that the other civs are researching very slow. In 15 (or somethingl like that) turns I only get 2 techs, and nobody has more.
As the Persians become a little too powerful, I attack them again. I have a weak military but I still get 2 cities by war and 1 from the peace deal. Also I have a lot of gpt obtained by trading the techs with the other civs. A new civ is discovered, but not by me: The Zulu. They have a very big score. 1 point behind me! I have the most cities in the world now, and in 230 BC I have a great turn:
My galley doesn't sink in sea, and I discover the Romans. Alone on a conitent, backwards, and weak in score, power and culture but with many cities. I obtain A LOT of gpt by trading contact and world maps with everyone. I have 20 times more gold than all the gold of the other civs! And the gpt is unbelievable: 103!!!!!

I have the most cities in the known world, Paris is the top city of the world, 1st place in population, literacy, and disease (doesn't really count) but I have only 3rd place in landmass. The Great Lighthouse is in Persepolis, so I'm considering a big attack there. I know there's another continent west of Persia, but it's too far to reach without the GLH. Very strange in the Demographics is that the second city is Kyoto, which is size 2 and doesn't have any wonders.

This is how the Roman continent looks, and you can also see the world map. Note that the lands west of Persia (5 settlers are heading there) are very fertile, and I might be able to take some of them. And note the gold per turn:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9295/gpt1lw.jpg

Forgot to say: When I declared war to Persia, I sign an alliance wit the Zulu, and they sign an Alliance with the English. So lots of Persian troops are heading to the English desert.

Will the Zulus do anything for the war considering that they are on another island? Usually civs that far away don't help out much.

I already made peace with Persia.
This was a surprise for me too, the Zulus are not on another island! There is a tile connecting them with the rest of the continent.
I signed that alliance because I didn't have to pay anything, the Zulus didn't like Persia since they built a city near the English territory and the Persians razed it. This happened long ago, but the didn't forget. Anyway, the alliance with the Zulu had it's advantages: the alliance of the Zulu with England, which is the most powerful (military) country of the known world, so both Persians and English were fighting to death, and so becoming weaker and weaker.

Edit: I forgot to say: I have the most cities in the known world, Paris is the top city of the world, 1st place in population, literacy, and disease (doesn't really count) but I have only 3rd place in landmass. The Great Lighthouse is in Persepolis, so I'm considering a big attack there. I know there's another continent west of Persia, but it's too far to reach without the GLH. Very strange in the Demographics is that the second city is Kyoto, which is size 2 and doesn't have any wonders.

The Persians can be destroyed easily. England looks weak as well, but I would not want to get into a war with the Zulus.

Anyways, if you can destroy the Persians and still expand up into the tundra and down in the desert, you will have a very good start.

I hope too that the Persians will be easy to destroy.
But about England, well they have few cities now, but they have the biggest military power in the known world! They are a bit backwards, and don't have big culture, but they are hard to stop. The only way I could win a game against them is stacking most of my defenses in border cities and let their attackers die, then use my own units to destroy them. But I don't plan this very soon. I plan first to destroy the Persians and recover my culture (which was huge when I built the GL, but the others now have bigger one). Then I'll expand in the grasslands west of Persians, after that in the floodplains that lay at the south-east of my empire. I could easily destroy the Iroquois, but they have terrible lands, that I don't need for the moment. A big problem in this game is that if I manage to destroy the Persians (and I hope I will), Paris, the city with the GL is very far from the center of the empire, so I will have huge corruption, unless if I destroy the Romans too, which could be a good idea since their lands are beautiful, they are weak, and close to my capital. The only problem is that I have to build more boats (I have just one)to transport units there and attack fast.
At the moment I don't really care about corruption since my gpt is 103 and my treasury is bigger than 2300 gold. But after I discover education, I have to spend money on scientific research, and the money could become a problem. Even though I'm in the middle ages, I didn't discover monarchy or republic (i think) so I can't change my government.

What do people on this forum think? What gov should I take when I discover them? I never know what to choose.
Note that I love war.

Probably I'll update tonight, but only if I have time.

Edit: Yes, I'll try to post a new chapter (full of screenshots) but not if I have time, if my connection works! The stupid kids (that are older than me (17) ) that take care of the network always do annoying things (shutting down the server, disconnect us, destroy the wires).
If it will work, I'll probably do it in less than 2 hours.

go for monarchy

^ That's what I usually do, but I was afraid to do it because people on this forum seem to like Republic more.
Here comes the next chapter (I'll start right now working on it):

CHAPTER FOUR: THE STUPID AZTECS

At the beggining of this chapter, let's have a look at my empire that is the second largest in the world and the one with the most cities:

The west:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2361/thewest0el.jpg

The east:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5373/theeast6cu.jpg

I'm trading a lot, so my gpt always increases. In the next turns it decreased a bit (to 131 IIRC) because some old deals expired.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2180/001moregpt1aw.jpg

I think the Romans have a really bad opinion about me if they think I'll accept this:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3346/001impressed4vo.jpg

This screenie is not important, just that I like the way I made this trade. I get 10 gold. If I would've asked for 10 gold, they wouldn't have accepted! But they like this more:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3456/001somegold9na.jpg

To make the situation of my game easier to understand, I'll post an image for each advisor:

She will be fired immediately!! Look at this:
Domestic Advisor:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4831/domesticadvisor0jo.jpg

Scientific Advisor:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5425/scienceadvisor4xc.jpg

Here something strange is happening: if I trade too much and take the last piece of gold that the other civ has, everyone becomes annoyed. The Zulu are polite here, but in a few turns they are annoyed.
Foreign Advisor:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1704/foreignadvisor5ee.jpg

Something that really annoys me:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3249/weak2ph.jpg

I'm expanding a lot. Note that Persian city that's completely sorrounded by French territory:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8535/001twonewcities5cx.jpg

<the chapter continues next post>

CHAPTER FOUR (CONTINUED):

NOW THE MOST STUPID THING THE AI COULD EVER DO:
The Aztecs, which are very big (I think they have the biggest territory), but not very strong military (they lost 1 city to the Russians and 1 to the Americans, which are really very weak) sent 1 Jaguar Warrior to one of my cities that was defended by only a Warrior. They declared war and attacked me the same turn. They lose the battle. The red-lined Aztec is so stupid that instead of leaving my territory to heal, it goes for one of my workers. I rush a Swordsman and I attack the Jaguar and win. The worker is still in my territory, so I just send the warrior that was defending the city, and it captured it without problems. So they got war with one of the biggest countries of the world, the one with the biggest score, and they lost a Jaguar Warrior. They didn't bring any reinforcements in the next turns. Since they are very far, I can't attack them (it sounds strange, but on a huge map, my units will become obsolete before getting there!). Also I signed an alliance with the Persians against them. It won't help much, but probably they will make peace earlier. I tried to ally with Russia, Germany, America or Zulu which are very close to them, but they were asking things like 1200 gold! Except the Persians, everyone was demanding ridiculous sums of gold.
Sorry, but I didn't take a screenshot of how they declared war. At least I took a screenshot of the Alliance with the Persians:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8555/001allianceaztecs3ar.jpg

I'm planning more expansion.
A city there would be good, I like that game:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3562/001thenorth9ya.jpg

That's all for this chapter. Next time: probably a government change. (I took this idea from stocktracker).

The Perisans must be very stupid if they are sending troops for that war. That means it is a good time to attack them. And do they have that wonder that produces horsemen every 5 turns?

That wonder is not in Vanilla.
Yes, I think the Persians sent troops there. But it's not a good time to attack them. I have to better defend my border cities. It's very annoying that the Persians that have to cross my territory to get close to the English or Aztecs are moving troops inside my territory (if I ask them out the declare war), and they are passing right near the completely undefended cities. Once I build a spear in each one, I will attack. I'm sure the war won't end before that moment.

Also, can anyone tell me, what's better, the Hanging Gardens or the Sun Tzu (of course this one costs more)?

Edit: the Persians have the Pyramids and the GLH. But isn't The Pyramids wondre supposed to provide a free granary in the cities on the same continent? Why I don't have any free Granary?

If you have enough luxuries, Hanging Gardens isn't worth it. And it does expire in the early industrial age. If you have barracks is every city, or those that produce military units, you don't need the Art of War. If you want to get a another wonder, I would get Sistine Chapel (doubles effect of catherdals) and it does not expire. Or instead of buiding a wonder, you could build more military units to wipe the Perisans out.

I have only 1 luxury.
I have only 3 Barracks.

Another problem I have is that I have only 7 workers, and 26 (or 27) cities.

I would say The Art of War is the best, use that to get into war with more civilizations and secure more luxuries. And wars do give you a lot of workers, and you don't have to pay support for them!

Yes, the Persians have some dyes that would be easy to secure.
Yes, I'm planning too much ahead, but I think that if I manage to destroy the Persians, I'll probably try to attack the Romans because they have great terrain, while both English and Persians have only deserts and (Iroquois) a few flood plains.

Desert and tundra have the most oil reserves, and plenty of other resources. So having some bad terrain could be a plus later. And if you empire gets too big, you can do what Takeo did in his game - specialists farms.

thats stange a non snowy mountian in the middle of tundra you've discovered shaingri la

ransack that barb. enplacement for more gold to add to your coffers

Also, can anyone tell me, what's better, the Hanging Gardens or the Sun Tzu?

Sun Tzu's is always a good choice if you are warmongering. Every city you capture instantly has a barracks to heal your hurt units and gives you the ability to upgrade your units anywhere.

But isn't The Pyramids wondre supposed to provide a free granary in the cities on the same continent? Why I don't have any free Granary?

You need to have control of the Pyramids to receive the free granaries.
Go conquer the Persians.;)

You need to have control of the Pyramids to receive the free granaries.
Go conquer the Persians.;)
Now I understand. I thought that if you are on the same continent you have the granaries. I read a Strategy Article (the one who wrote it must have been drunk) where it wrote : "if you can not build The Pyramids, at least make sure you are on the same continent with it".:crazyeye:

Thank you, Takeo!:)

hey ppl......im new here but i know MIrc...anyway HELLO all!!!!!!

Sorry for bumping, again just to say the story is not dead, I planned to update this today, but I'm in a huge mess and I can't do anything now!

All reminds me of my first Crowded game. Weird.

People are patient...

Finally,.... I have Internet!!!!

I have an update, will post it tomorrow. But it could be the last. Anyway, who cares about this story. Something horrible is happening to the save!

CHAPTER 5: THE MONARCHY
I have a lot of good and bad news.
All the news about my playing are good. But there is something incredibly bad happeneing. You'll see.

I changed to Monarchy!!!! I thought that this would ruin my chances of getting the Sun Tzu, but I realize I still have time to complete it before anyone else does. Sorry, I don't have a screenshot of this, but you'll see that I changed to Monarchy in the other ones.

Just when I thought a war would be good to take that city...
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7729/001unbelievable4em.jpg

Some more technologies offered by the Great Library:
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3632/001chivalry3jr.jpg

I thought that this could be the last big gpt I get:
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/8259/001maybelastgpt8sz.jpg

But it isn't the last. I don't think I've ever seen so much gpt (and so much gold is hard to get even on CHieftain):
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9652/001evenmoregpt2hh.jpg


The Persians are growing really strong millitary, but their units (and the English ones) are all killed in a horrible war they have. I'm becoming way more powerful than them and anyone else. I surrounded most of the western Persian cities with my own culture! Maybe they will flip, like Gordium did.

The next post contains the bad news.

:( :( This could really make chapter 5 the last.
I observed that when I mod certain things (civs, units points) the game crashes. Always the same turn!!!!
This time I didn't mod anything, but I still get this strange message.
My computer has some problems, but it's surely way above the Civ3 recomanded specs. I still have a chance of finding someone with UNPATCHED Vanilla or install my game on a better computer and play that turn, then retrying the save.

I tried everything possible. EVERYTHING!!!!! It doesn't want to go past this turn.

I could post here the save. Also I could make some little changes (for example, gift the ai some gpt or some gold) so that it would be clear that the image is not changed.

:mad:!!!!!!
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8016/001wtf8ge.jpg


And it was only 1 turn until building the Sun Tzu!

:hmm: Maybe someone should have a look at your save.

Here is the save. AFAIK 1.29f Vanilla can open previous saves, but if a 1.29f version saves a game, mine can't reopen it. I should get a prize! I'm the most loyal member of this forum! Think how few people have only Vanilla. And then think how few don't have the patch! The ones that couldn't get the patch work mostly stopped playing. I'm the only Vanilla 1.07f player here!!!!!! As a reward, Firaxis should give me Complete for free.

Please, first tell me if it works.

Yes, your save does work on my Civ 3 Vanilla. The Aztecs stole the Art of War one turn before you got to it.
But I have version 1.29, so that's why is works for me.
Can't you download a patch to solve the problem?

Actually I'm on vanilla 1.07f too (the 1.29 patch somehow messes up the registry, so I can't get it to work properly), I downloaded your save file and could play it (didn't look at it for very long, in case I spoil anything for myself)

I hit "end turn" twice, and this showed up though:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/748/test3kw.png

So the Aztecs didn't steal STAW like in stocktracker's game. :rollseyes:

But I don't have anything modded, I'm not sure what you might have changed in your civ3mod.bic file or inside the scenario file you used for this game. Maybe those changes didn't get carried through when I loaded your save.

i have completly origanal no mods scenarios or any thing civ III vanilla and civIV:)

The differences between version 1.29 and 1.07 must be noticeable.
Even with shield production set at the highest possible, the wonder takes two turns.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2826/civ28zi.jpg
The Aztecs get the wonder.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9991/civ34dm.jpg
I still have 15 shields to go to get the Sistine Chapel which costs the same as the Art of War.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6518/civ45to.jpg
You did get very close in getting that wonder.

Sima Qian, please, could you post the save from 390 AD? Maybe that one will work and I'll be able to play the game. Thanks in advance.

The game isn't modded at all. Just some changes in the Art folder, which shouldn't have any effect on the gameplay. I meant that I get the same result when I mod the game, not that it's modded now. Now it's perfectly original.

@stocktracker: the differences are important, but I think the AI is changed, Sima Qian said he hit the button twice, so anyway I was going to get it in 2 turns. Maybe the difference is that the AI's complete things faster.

I attached the 390 AD autosave, hope that works.

Also, I lied earlier. I do have something modded, the civ colors. But those shouldn't affect your game.

THANKS A LOT!!! I will try it now (oh, I'm a little busy, but probably today)
Anyway, Civiliation3 uses the rules of the civ3mod.bic/biz/biq that is in the main folder, if you changed something (for example you made the Roman leader Augustus) I will still play with my rules (Iulius Caesar) on this computer. The strange problem is that if I try to mod anything about or units civs the game crashes at a certain turn. But as I said, your changes won't affect my game.

Edit: Dl-ing it now.

YAY:goodjob: [party] :banana: :xmastree:

:( :( :(
:mad: :mad:
This is HORRIBLE!

The save works, thanks, Sima Qian.

It surely works, I don't get that annoying message: "The file might be corrupt".
However, look what I get when I try it:

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/7094/badbadnews3si.jpg

This is surely because of my computer! It is clearly one of the big problems it has. Sorry, until I update my computer (which can happen next week, but if it happens so fast I'll get maximum 1.8 Gb CPU, otherwise I have to change my mainboard, and with it the graphics card and the CPU and RAM, and I'm still not prepared for this material effort).

Probably it's something like : my 128 RAM (that can handle Civ4 :hmm: )can't handle more than a number of cities, and probably this turn some civs build some new cities that mess up my computer! :mad:

I now got Conquests and a new Vanilla disk. The Civilization III.exe had some problems, and I think that it caused the error. Conquests automatically patches Vanilla to 1.29f, and now I hope it works. I probably won't be able to update this week (maybe today, but if I don't have time I will be able to update only next week, because I'm leaving from Bucharest 1 week).

So even though I want to play C3C as much as possible I will probably have time for this story too.

I tried and it works absolutely perfect! :banana::dance::band::band::dance::beer::banana:[party][party]
But as stocktracker anticipated, on 1.29f the Aztecs steal the Sun Tzu. So I thought of something:
Sima Qian, do you still have 1.07f? If you do, please could you do something for me? The 380 AD save file you gave me is at the end of the turn. So, could you end that turn, then play 1 turn on your own (it shouldn't be too hard if you can manage Monarch to play 1 turn on Emperor, I'm sure you won't do anything wrong), then hit end turn again (this will get me the Sun Tzu)? Then I will continue the game with the Sun Tzu, otherwise I have to change to Sistine Chapel and this wonder is muuuuuuuch worse.
If you accept, here are some instructions for your turn: there will be a knight that will arrive in a stack. Fortify it there. The rest you have to do is micromanaging. Do NOT automate any worker. Order them to build roads if you see that they are in a good place for that, otherwise move them to a good place to build a road. Attention: if you see 2 or 3 workers in the same stack, do NOT separate them. Order them both to build road and so you win 1 turn. If the worker stack is already on a road, move the whole stack to the same tile, do NOT separate them. I don't think that any city will fall in disorder, in case it happens "Give them some entertainment" and tell me what cities are that so I can deal with that when I get the save.

So, is this possible, Sima Qian?

I suspect that corruption got tweaked a lot in the 1.29 patch. The Aztecs were building Sun Tzu's in Texcoco, which is quite a distance from their capital.

Anyway, here comes the turnlog:

380 AD:
- Citizen working in the forest by Paris moved onto mined hill. The only difference this makes is that there is now 1 content citizen + 5 unhappy instead of 6 unhappy. The extra shield is lost to waste, and the extra gold is lost to entertainment. (Guess that was kind of pointless.)
- New Amiens, New Dijon, New Rouen are size 2 cities with entertainers. I took entertainers off and stuck them on a food-producing tile.
- Specialist in Grenoble changed from entertainer to tax collector. GPT goes from 203 to 204.
- Entertainer in Samaria (size 1 city) is now put on the fish.
- Entertainer in Rennes (size 3 city) put on roaded grassland.
- Entertainer in New Paris (size 4 city) moved onto irrigated grassland.
- Entertainer in New Lyons (size 4 city) changed to tax collector. GPT goes to 205. The city will grow in 5 turns, but the pikeman is expected to be built in 4 turns, so I doubt that one will have entertainment trouble.
- Hit enter.

IBT:
- Persian settler escorted by spearman northward from Tyre.
- Persian horseman+spearman shows up by Rennes.
- Persian spearman walks by Toulouse.
- Persian spearman+archer move out from Dariush Kabir.
- Persian spearman walks south out of Ghulaman.
- Aztec Jaguar warrior attacks Ergili but retreats.
- Aztec Jaguar warrior moves south, away from New Toulouse.
- American galley seen going up the coast toward Rouen.
- Iroquois stack (2 spearman+archer+settler) appears by New Bayonne.
- Iroquois warrior by Ergili enters French territory.
- German archer near New Toulouse disappears into Fog of War zone.
- English units continue moving NW along the border at New Toulouse.
- English stack (spearman+3 archers) moves off mountain onto plains by New Marseilles.
- English stack #2 (2 warriors+horseman) forms south of New Dijon.

390 AD:
- I press wait for every unit so that automated moves go first.
- Knight arrives in stack outside Sardis. I fortify it, as per your instruction.
- Settler walks toward New Paris.
- 2 workers by New Toulouse ordered to build road. The road is completed immediately, connecting the city.
- Worker between Strasbourg and New Grenoble ordered to build road (in the forest). I don't think this will help much, since any gold would just be lost to corruption, but it'll make a shortcut between the two cities.
- Worker by Dijon moved to forest, 1 tile to the west. Can build road there next turn, or chop (what I'd rather do).
- 2 workers north of Paris build road, completed immediately.
- 2 workers south of New Marseilles moved onto plains, 1 tile west. You can road or irrigate that tile next.
- Worker south of New Amiens moved N-NE to deer forest, can build road there next turn.
- 2 workers sw of New Avignon build road, completed immediately.
- Hit enter.

French core, 390 AD:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3874/mirc390ad6de.png

IBT:

- Persian troops move into French territory from Dariush Kabir.
- Persian horseman wanders north past Rennes.
- Injured Aztec Jaguar Warriors flees southwest of Ergili.
- Iroquois request an audience. They are annoyed. They want to trade Territory Maps. I am not interested, and bid them goodbye.
- Iroquois spearman + settler moves onto hill SE of New Bayonne.
- English units continue to move along SW border of France.
- English stack by New Marseilles moves further east.
- Sun Tzu's Art of War built in Paris. Paris will try to build the Sistine Chapel next, but it's pretty obvious the AI will get it. Change it to whatever you want.
- Cultural expansion at Lyons.
- Marseilles builds pikeman. This is where the autosave should leave off.

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/6008/mirc390ad26zg.png

So there's your wonder. Good luck with the rest of your game.

THANKS A LOT!!!!!
I would never expect it so fast and with so many details.
:thanx: :thanx: :thanx: :bounce: :bounce:

Unfortunately I have to leave in 2 hours, so I can't update this week, but I will de more updates after I come back.

It is good news that this game is going again.

Thank you stocktracker!!!, I'm writing this from Belgrade so I don't have much time, and I hope that the civvers will enjoy the story.

Yes I just read through most of it, and... nice. ;)

Yes I just read through most of it, and... nice. ;)
I'm glad you like it! I will continue it when I come back in Romania.

I'm back with an update!

The French Empire continued expanding more and more to the southwest, to take the last fertile lands from the north of the continent. The last grasslands and hills with gold were taken by the glorious French settled. Queen Joan D'Arc (it is no more a Saint, because now we are in a Monarchy) started to become very upset because the income was dropping. The gpt deals were ending! And (she didn't know why!) her reputation was wrecked down and nobody wanted to trade with her gpt, even though she had Chivalry and Printing Press. If she couldn't trade gpt, she would rather not sell the techs, because the AI have sooooo little gold compared to her! The richest country was America, who had 86 gold compared to her 8200 gold treasury! The other civs had below 20 gold, and trading a tech for so little money was unacceptable!
In the next years the weak Persians asked TRIBUTE!!!! This was very strange! They are weak and hopeless and they want US to give THEM 2 technologies! No way! Take your empty threats elsewhere! So Xerxes declared war on Joan. It was perfecct for Joan, since her troops were already in place for war!!! 2 stacks (one consisting of 4 Knights and 3 Swordsman and another consisting of 3 knights, 3 swordsman, 2 catapults and an Archer) were ready to attack the closest cities to the French border! Those two fell really quickly!

The first one, Sardis:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7867/001sardis4tu.jpg

The second one also fells quickly (I forgot to take a screenie and I forgot the city name).
It is good that this city fell too, it was completely isolated of the rest of the Persian cities, and it was standing in my way:
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/610/001bactra3hf.jpg

After only 3 turns, with the help of the 2 movement points of Knights and horsemen, the city of Persepolis is under siege! My mounted units are succesful, and look what wonderful thing I captured together with that city!
Then I looked better, and it also has The Pyramids in it :eek:!!!
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8249/001persepolis7bj.jpg

It is so strange that in this war, the Persians lost their capital 3 times!!! I captured Persepolis, then the capital moved to Hamadan, which I also captured, and then the capital moved to Antioch, and look here:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1686/001antioch5kw.jpg

Sorry, I didn't have much time today so I couldn't finish the war, but anyway the Persians are down to 6 cities, from which 3 are in the middle of the tundra and about 10 Knights are surrounding them. The other three (among which the current Persian captal) are scattered and isolated through the western crowded territory. That cities should be easy to conquer. The Sun Tzu offered me great advantages by healing immediately my units! Probably in 10 turns or even less, the Persians will be destroyed. I can now move 4 squares with my galleys and they can't sink in Sea, I have free acces to the tundra at the north of my territory (which contains some bonus resources), I am the biggest in Score (with Zulu at about 50 points distance), I have the greates military, but even with 4 wonders I am low on culture (4th place or something). Paris is the top city of the world, I have the biggest land area, 3rd (IIRC) population in the world, I have acces to the beautiful lands of the west.
Unfortunately my empire is very descentralized, Paris being much too far from the western cities, where I have very big corruption.
Probably after conquering the crowded area from the west I will abandon some of my cities, because there are many situated at only 1 tile distance one of another.
I will try to show the demographics, histograph, and the crowded western area today.

After the Persians are gone, which nation are you going after next? England looks good, most of their territory looks worthless.

After the Persians are gone, which nation are you going after next? England looks good, most of their territory looks worthless.
Ditto.
..

I will probably go for the Iroquois. England is more powerful than them and I don't know if I can take them. Also most of their territory is desert, while the Iroquois have flood plains and resources. I would like to go also for Rome, because they have the best territory in the world and they are close to my capital, so cities there shouldn't experience much corruption. But it's hard because have to build boats and load units into them, and I have to face the Legionaries, which have 3 defense, so before Musketman they will have the biggest defense of all units. So it's hard to believe that I will attack the Romans. Also the Americans are very weak, but they are too far from me to try to attack them in the Middle Ages. Only Cavalries or railroads can help me when I get them. So I will try to destroy the Iroquois next.
BTW, in 1.07f galleys could cross oceans too when I got the GLH, even though the civilopedia says that they can sink in Ocean. In 1.29f they sink in Ocean squares, so I can't contact the other continent. If I could contact them, I would be even more rich (selling contact, technologies, maps)! Probably I would have 15000 gold or something. With this treasury I could run in deficit the rest of the game, thus researching before the AI's and selling the techs. Without the Great Library, probably I wouldn't be where I am now.

Chapter 7: Persia - the forgotten civilization -

I finally have time and I am playing this again.

One of the worst years has come. The Great Library self-destructs itself! It gives me Education for free, and it becomes obsolete. Research started on Engineering. Later I will find out it wasn't a good decision because other civs researched Engineering in the next 10 turns, so I could have bought it from them and focus on something else.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8216/002obsolete0wu.jpg

The war with Persia continues. My troops are much more powerful than the Persian ones. Take a look:
Tyre:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4083/002tyre8zx.jpg

Dariush Kabir (sorry I took the screenshot too late, after it showed that I captured it):
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4759/002dariushkabir0yb.jpg

Ergili (I capture again their capital, 5th time):
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/1466/002ergili8kk.jpg

The great moment has come. For more than a hundred years, Persia is a shadow of what it was before. The last Persian city is Jinjan, which is surrounded by Tundra. In 580 AD it falls.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4259/002persia8cr.jpg

My score at the end of the war:
http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/4189/002score2hg.jpg

My power:
http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/1820/002power1rz.jpg

My culture (I should be worried about this):
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1306/002culture8zb.jpg

I have problems with this area. Not the disorder troubles me, but the cities are soo crowded here!
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/216/002western24lc.jpg

I'm planning ahead. Iroquois are weak (probably) and 5 Knight are already in position for attack. I will start the war about in 60 years, I hope. Also you can see a bigger minimap here.
http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/8656/002minimapmilitary8cd.jpg

WTF is happening here? Why the most important screenshot looks like a link?

It's not happening to me. :confused:

Gargh savage Zulus they always get in the way of things. You're gonna have to fight your way down to them and make them pay for being there. :hammer:

Don't ask why I picked on the Zulu. It's just coause the they are second in score. Let's see the city count go to new new paris. :D

WTF is happening here? Why the most important screenshot looks like a link?

Uhhh... because you forgot to put [IMG] tags around it? Just my guess.

EDIT: NO. Actually you did put image tags around it, but you put it around the wrong URL.
Use this one instead: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5093/002persia9mw.jpg

EDIT2: ARGH. Stupid link got shortened by the forum parser.

Uploaded the file again, now it works fine.

@conquer_dude: yes, I don't like them either, but my military is weak compared to them! The most likely order of civ elimination will be Iroquois, England, America, Germany, Aztecs, Russia, Zulu, Rome. Of course this are just part of the civs in the world. The part I met so far. Even though the Zulus are not too far from me, I have to bring units with ships because no unit (not even Cavs) can cross so much land in time for a attack. Only if I sign RoP with other civs and if they have Railroads I might get there on land.

Don't sign RoP becuase the other civs get mad and say you sneaked attacked the (whoever) and they won't sign another RoP with you for like a ton of turns. :crazyeye:

I mean sign a RoP to get to the Zulus, not sign a RoP and destroy my rep by breaking it. Also a broken deal can be a result to many different things, for example if a civ gets destroyed (by another civ) and you had a gpt deal (even if they were paying you gold) your rep will still go down! So many times you can't control your rep.

With so many civs on this game it is very important to keep your reputation high.

Yes, and unfortunately it's already down :(. If I try to make a gpt deal my advisor tells me "They would never accept such a deal". Maybe it is not that bad, as I see that everyone wants RoP and MA against other civs, but nobody wants gpt deals :(.

If you keep the wars up, it is only going to fall farther. By that point, you can overpower most of the AI anyway.

By that point, you can overpower most of the AI anyway.
I hope! I hope!

BTW, wars do not directly affect your rep. Declaring war with units in territory or breaking a deal with war might cause rep hits.

Also, you must be carefull with resource trading. If you have trade route via one civ to other, and you declare war on the first civ, your rep will be ruined, because you will not export resource anymore...

Yes, and unfortunately it's already down :(. If I try to make a gpt deal my advisor tells me "They would never accept such a deal". Maybe it is not that bad, as I see that everyone wants RoP and MA against other civs, but nobody wants gpt deals :(.
Usually they never accept gpt with me anyway. Even if I offer them 1 gpt and they give me 1 gpt. :rolleyes: :p

Yes, this happens to me also.
And they don't like the deal: 1 gold (from them) for 100 gold (from me)!

Edit: 1100th post!

Congrats in the 1100th post. :D

Update lurking anywhere?

Thank you! BTW, you will reach 1000 posts sooner than I would believe!

Update lurking anywhere? Sorry, my English is not good enough to understand this :blush: . You mean, when I will update the story? Probably tomorrow.

Yeah, sorry I just realized you were in Romania. :lol:

I meant when is the next update. ;)

Oh, and the posts, heh I know I'm like 11.7 posts a day.

Congratulations, you did it! You are an Emperor now.

I hope I will have time to update today.

Thanks, man for the congrats. :)

Waiting patiently for the update. ;)

Thanks for waiting... I've been in Turkey these days. I will update it tomorrow evening maybe (I have an olympiad tomorrow morning).
BTW, I would make much more updates, but it is sooooooooooooooooo slooooooooow! It takes about 3 minutes since I clicked "end turn" until I can control the game again. And sometimes it crashes, so I have to wait again and again! It's hard to be patient with such waiting times! I played about 15 turns more, but nothing happened. I can just say that 18 Knights are in position for a blitz war with the Iroquois. I can declare war (without units in their territory), attack the same turn and get 4 or 5 cities in 1 turn!!!!!! Also, if anyone wants I can post a new chapter but not much happened these turns except micromanaging and gathering troops. So tell me because I can post a new chapter if you're intrested.

My last game on deity was slow also. It took several minutes during the interturn. What kind of comp do you have, mine is 6 years old.:lol:

My last game on deity was slow also. It took several minutes during the interturn. What kind of comp do you have, mine is 6 years old.:lol:
Dang that has to take like 5 minutes to end any tirnset. :crazyeye:

Update?:)

Mine is an AMD Duron 700 Mhz, 128 Mb RAM. The strange thing is that Civ4 with the patch 1.52 sometimes is faster. Update maybe today (but only if I have time).

In Civ 3 it seems like the computer only uses 128Mb of RAM, regardless of how powerful it is. I have played it on an older computer and a newer one, and it doesn't seem to be a huge difference.

Chapter 8: The boring turns

It is the fault of my Antivirus that the comp is so slow. I'm thinking of closing it when I'm not navigating on the internet.

Inspired by stocktracker's newly started thread, I posted an update. I don't have time, so nothing really important happened, just many turns played.

I am building more cities to colonize my part of the world:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5039/003amorecities7dv.jpg

Without the help of the GL, I have to spend a lot of money on research. I am spending all my money, but I'm not in deficit. I'm researching pretty fast compared to other civs:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4364/003cdomesticadvisor1kc.jpg

I'm researching Invention because I want to go for Chemistry. It is one of the most unpopular techs for the AI. They will research anything before it. You can easily get a monopoly, and I'm beelineing for Military Tradition:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8052/003dscienceadvisor0en.jpg

I wonder if the Zulu built this city here because of oil that may appear or because of the bonus resources there. Or maybe both?
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/7465/003loilorresource1pd.jpg

The southern coast of the ex-Persian territory has been colonized by others, but there are only plains there. Though I like how it looks! The cities Gewauga, Brandemburg, Porthsmouth, Los Angeles and Carlisle are so close one to another!
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1579/003mcrowddisband3fk.jpg

A look at the northern Iroquois lands. I should have zoomed out before taking the screenshot, but that's it, sorry.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2733/003biroquoiscore8lq.jpg

My troops are getting ready for the greatest attack from the history of this world. The great blitz war against the Iroquois will begin in about 3-4 turns. When I declare war, the same turn my Knights will (I hope) capture 5 of their cities! 5 cities in one turn!!! The 2 movement points of the Knights are great. I can't wait to get Cavalry! There are 3 Knights for each city. These should be enough since they are defending with Spearmen. The cities are: Chondote, Gayagaahe, Oil Springs, Kahnawake, and I can't remember the name of the last one. Anyway:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3098/003knights19zj.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5100/003knights20ox.jpg

:woohoo: Update!
Can't wait until the attack begins. Make sure your border cities are protected well with pikemen. :)

:beer:

The borders look much more defended than in the games I play. Usually my defenses are paper-thin.

Yeah but I saw some border cities with one warrior down there...

I usually build too many defenses, but sometimes my cities are just protected with warriors or even with nothing (look at Ergili or New Rheims from screenshot 5). I should try a major action of checking what cities get content people from troops and let fewer defenders in the core, move them to the border, of if they are obsolete just disband them.

I hope that I'll have time to write more updates. If the game would be faster I would post twice as many updates. Time is my only problem.

Someone mail him a new computer. :p

J/K Are you planning on capturing the cities and maybe starve htem, or building over them?

Someone mail him a new computer. :p
This would be very nice!

I am not afraid of Iroquois culture at all. I have twice as much as they do. I plan to keep the cities. If there will be any flipping then I will reload the game and raze/abandon them. Worst thing is their lands, which are really unfertile! Only desert, some mountains and plains. They have some flood plains, but they are further south and at the moment I can't capture them.

Wel, that's good for you too though. They ahve sucky lands = less production.

I don't know if I should continue this story with updates about once every week, so with no future, or if I should start a game on a smaller map (to make it faster) and play a lot and post many updates, so letting this game again in hibernation.

What do you think? Should I start a new story on a smaller map? Or should I continue this one? (veeery slow)



Edit (and completely OFF topic): conquer dude, you could make that links from your sig like this:
Join the one and only, first season of the Sim City 4 contest!!! (Must be Deluxe Edition) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=160986)
Also check out my crazy hotseat game. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=158925)
If you do this, they will appear like this:
Join the one and only, first season of the Sim City 4 contest!!! (Must be Deluxe Edition) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=160986)
Also check out my crazy hotseat game. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=158925)

I don't know if I should continue this story with updates about once every week, so with no future, or if I should start a game on a smaller map (to make it faster)

a smaller map would make for an easier game for you to record. But you may be relating too much detail in how you recount the story. Just tell us the exciting parts--the wars, the strategies, the race for techs--the adrenaline stuff.

I don't need to see screenies of city screens of brand new cities. As it is, I can't really read this tale at home (dial up) so I have to sneak reads in at work on my lunch time. But that said, I do find this to be a pretty interesting game and would like to see at least how the Iroquois war turns out. Nothing beats the thrill of cruel slaughter among the pixeled peoples of pretend planets ('scuse the aliteration).

--waiting for the next thrilling chapter

I don't know if I should continue this story with updates about once every week, so with no future, or if I should start a game on a smaller map (to make it faster) and play a lot and post many updates, so letting this game again in hibernation.

What do you think? Should I start a new story on a smaller map? Or should I continue this one? (veeery slow)



Edit (and completely OFF topic): conquer dude, you could make that links from your sig like this:
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Oh, and, I guess you could start a new one on a small map if you really wanted. I understand slow computers. I had one. :yup:

I would like you to continue this one, this game has been going on for so long that I want to see it completed.

Yes, stocktracker does have a point though...

I'm Just joining now, so far it looks like the kind of game I dream of.:) What will you do if the war gives you a great leader? Army or Wonder?

@stocktracker and conquer_dude: good, then I might continue this one, but expect very rare updates (once a week or something).
@BuckyRea: The last update was a bit boring, and I did it just because I didn't have time to play and I wrote only about one turn. The next one will be better (but I don't know when it will be).
@FascistRepublic: I'm glad you like it. I will make an army if I have a leader.

I have to go to school now.

Then what about starting a new one but not letting this one die?
I will be very busy next months, so I don't know if I'll have time for updating.
Also the next one would have votes to decide everything (except map size!!!).

Yes! Start another and keep this alive. I guess it will be hard for you to do two at once, but...

Go for it!

It will be easier then getting stuck with this one. I will still play this when I have more than one hour of free time, and I will play the other one probably every day.
And BTW, if anyone thinks a smaller map would be easier I could take a bad start or try an AW, or something else .

Then what should I do for the fast-going one?

I am sure I will play on a smaller map, to minimize waiting times. But should I try:

A bad civ
A random everything (except map size :gripe:)
A really bad start
An AW
Disable all victories except conquest
Go for a victory type I have never achieved (Culture or Space Race)

???

BTW, my story has five stars! :banana:

Edit button not working!!!

If you choose an AW, then I will probably try Monarch, not Emperor, since I don't know if I will be able to handle it.

If you choose random everyhing, then I will take the first start.

Edit: Many people posted in this forum. Any votes?

Always war
Germany
Archipeligo 80% water :p
Raging barbs
wet
3 billion
cool

That will be auto bad start ;)


Oh, btw I voted five stars to get that rank. :)

Always War might be interesting, but if you haven't played that way before then maybe not emperor level. Monarch Always War.:hammer:

Always war is interesting, if you can kill everybody early. On continents/archipelago you have to use sci-farms and do MM every turn later in game to get IA techs and conquer second continent/islands. This is too boring...
AWE pangaea should be fun. Maybe not random start, just one cow, and you can do it on emperor ;)

After I decide what to do (which will be probably an AW, if the votes will not change too much), I will start a new thread for the civ&other stuff to choose. You were too fast, conquer_dude, for the moment I just want to know which of these options to try).

BTW, thanks for that ranking, conquer_dude.

I'm known for being fast :p

Congrats on the 1300 posts!

Thanks! I will start the new story once I am confident that my connection is working. I have updates for this one too. I got to the year 700 AD and this turn I will start the war. I contacted the first continent, I researched a lot and traded a lot, I am 200 score points ahead everyone, I have 30 gpt again, I am researching at 80% and I pay 20% for people entertainment. I will get Military Tradition in about 25 turns, just Chemistry and Metallurgy to go. All this will be in the updates. Also I plan to update this after I start the war, and make two updates, one with the other continent and some other stuff, and another update about the war.

How strange my connection dissapeared exactly when I had 1300 posts.

I hope I didn't lose the connection in the time spent with writing this.

It appear that my connection came back to life today. I will start the new story and (I hope) I will update this one today.