Croatian Civ mod
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/croat.jpg

Features Croatia as playable Civ with authentic city names, two leaders and a special unique unit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/croat102.jpg


Leaders:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/btn_LH_croat_tomislav.jpg

Tomislav - First King of Croatia
Traits: Spiritual and Philosophical
Favourite civic: Organized Religion
Descripion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomislav)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/btn_LH_croat_nikola.jpg

Nikola Subic Zrinski - Ban of Croatia
Traits: Financial and Creative
Favourite civic: Hereditary Rule
Description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Subic_Zrinski)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/btn_LH_croat_josip.jpg

Josip Jelacic - Ban of Croatia
Traits: Aggressive and Expansive
Favourite civic: Nationhood
Description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Jelacic)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/btn_LH_croat_ante.jpg

Ante Starcevic - Pater Patriae
Traits: Industrious and Organized
Favourite civic: Emancipation
Description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Starcevic)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/brownbeard/civ4/garde.jpg
Unique unit: Mechanized Guard Brigade
Type: Mechanized Infantry
Strenghth: 32
Abilities: 20% to intercept
Promotions: March, Commando
Description: Equal to other Mechanized Infantry in all aspects except the Commando promotion which allows rapid deployment into enemy held territory. This unit represents the Croatian Garde Brigades that successfully ended the wars in Croatia and neighbouring Bosnia-Hercegovina by rapidly advancing after breaking through enemy lines in a series of battles, like Operation Flash, Storm and many others.

Other feature: Unique UU names, uniqe sounds and diplo music

A big thanks to LAnkou for assistance in earlier versions with flagdecal and the knowhow and support.

Download link: click (http://www.civilizacija.net/files/downloads/c4-croatianciv102.zip)
If you notice any bugs please contact me. I hope there aren't any.

A big thanks to LAnkou for making the FlagDecal and thus helping me to finish this mod.


you're wellcome!! :)

anyway, nice job.

I will put it in Superciv when i will have enough time, there is still 9 civ (including Hrvatska) to include, so be patient...

Glad to see you've made yourself a decent mod for Croatia.
I've been there, done some peacekeeping in your part of the world.

Really don't know how to talk to you, too many memories. Sorry.
But I wanted to say, good work on your mod.
Hope everything is working out for you all these days.
(Zagreb? Been there. I've been all over. :D )

Glad to see you've made yourself a decent mod for Croatia.
I've been there, done some peacekeeping in your part of the world.

Really don't know how to talk to you, too many memories. Sorry.
But I wanted to say, good work on your mod.
Hope everything is working out for you all these days.
(Zagreb? Been there. I've been all over. :D )

Hi! Glad you like the mod! Well, the war ended long ago, life goes on. Its nice and quiet in these parts nowadays, one of the safest places in Europe. Come visit next summer. There's no place like Dalmatia. :cool:

Can you play Srbija mod and Hrvatska mod at the same time? :D

Can you play Srbija mod and Hrvatska mod at the same time? :D

I'm not sure if the two mods are merged. Check out LAnkou's SuperCiv mod.

Link (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141855)

Not yet, apparently. I left him a message is it possible, as I'm not sure how it al works...

nice job.. ;) ...i took over the world with Croatia....and superciv mod is totaly good.. :D

Piše se "Guard brigade" zemljače ;)

Inače skinuo i jedva čekam da isprobam :b:

Piše se "Guard brigade" zemljače ;)

Inače skinuo i jedva čekam da isprobam :b:

Parlez vous Francais?

Guard and Garde are not the same

Gardijska brigada nije Stražarska brigada :p

Tvoj mod tvoj izbor :)

Ipak Guard, Garde i Gardijska znače doslovno jedno te isto, samo je drukčiji jezik ;)

Well, here's my reasoning. The name Guard brigade would be somewhat misleading, since theyre not really meant to guard. The concept was for them to provide an alternative strategy to regular gameplay. Instead of making tanks the bulk of your forces, mechanized infantry takes their place and is supported by airforce.

Airforce weakens the enemy, you use a tank or two to break their front lines, and then Garde brigades pour through the breakthrough and deep into hostile territory and wreak havoc. Sounds familiar?

So, I went for a bit of fancier name(Delboy Trotter would support my choice) since Guard would imply defence only and would be more apropriate for some kind of unique machine gunner. More of a WWI scenario unit.

I think unit is an excellent choice, they really proved effective in war, and as you say, they aren't really tank heavy.

Historically Guard brigades does not imply defense at all (stražarske), at least to me. The term does come from elite troops whose task was originally to protect the commander (like the famous Napoleon's Garde), but later it extended to mean elite troops in general. For example, in WW II, Soviets had them and so on.

Also the Iraqi Republican Guard, also elite troops, let's not forget them :D ;)

like the famous Napoleon's Garde

Exactly, and where did most of Napoleons' Garde come from? Illyric provinces. Ergo, Croats. :D

Illyric provinces. Ergo, Croats. :DIllyric provinces weren't in Croatia only. :)

BTW, nice location you have there. Too bad the English don't understand it.

Illyric provinces weren't in Croatia only. :)

BTW, nice location you have there. Too bad the English don't understand it.

Sacred wolven groves are better kept away from the eyes of infidels. And dont worry, Slovenia mod is not too far away.

Croatia 1.01

- Fixed some graphic glitches with the UU

Link (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Croat101.zip)

I'm suprised u didnt pick Ban Jelacic as one of the leaders..

also just curous.. why do English call us "croats" we call ourselves "hrvati" its not even close to the same..

They got it via latin Croatus. It's the closest those Romans could do ;)

Anima does the permission you gave me to upload to civilizacija.net extend to subsequent versions like this one?

And generations to come.

About the leaders:

First a medieval one: Trpimir, Branimir, Domagoj, Tomislav, Stjepan Držislav, Petar Krešimir IV, Dmitar Zvonimir

I think Tomislav is the best pick.

Second, a modern one: Nikola Subic Zrinski, Josip Jelacic, Ante Starcevic, Josip Juraj Strossmayer, Stjepan Radic, Josip Broz Tito, Franjo Tudjman.

I cannot make up my mind, Ante Starcevic(Pater Patriae) is in the lead and Josip Jelacic is the runner-up. Opinions, until a later date, I'm sticking with the current somewhat comical choice.

And also, Guard or Garde?

And another thing, sounds. Croatian units speak American. Need to get a mic or rip some sounds from internet freebies(like 'Pastirković' in Laku noć Hrvatska... 'Što ću jadan', 'Kako ću'...)

Tomislav definitely for the early leader.

The modern one is more tricky, but I think I would go with Tudman or Jelacic as second choice. Tito was important but was "shared" :D

About the sounds, I bet you can find loads on hr.misc.binaries, or simply ask there and people will provide them. That groups is good source for various multimedia content.

P.S. Don't neglect the Slovenian civ, I'm waiting to upload them too :)

I forgot about Tudjman. I should smack myself across the face LOL

you should've put Ante Pavelic. He's your true leader.
Trolling - warned.

Ante Pavelic LOL .. only reason he held any title, was because to the people of croatia he Seemed like the lesser of two evils.

the Fake Kingdom we were part off.. or he offered a different choice.
Most people didn't support either/thats why in the end Tito won out.

The only reason I'm even responding to your post Vladdy, is because I found your post insulting, ignorant and very Prejudice. My Grandfather fought against the fascists in World War 2 with a lot of his friends from the area he grew up in.

Ante Pavelic LOL .. only reason he held any title, was because to the people of croatia he Seemed like the lesser of two evils.

Actually, this is terribly wrong. It suggests that he was in some way elected or rationally chosen. In fact he was neither - he was a puppet installed by Italians after Germans tried someone else who had political legitimacy (Macek) and couldn't get him to take the position.

11. Thou shalt not feed the troll.

That Ante is not even an option. End of discussion.

Exactly, and where did most of Napoleons' Garde come from? Illyric provinces. Ergo, Croats.

Illyric provinces weren't in Croatia only.
Dalmatia is a region with a long history. Its name is probably derived from the name of an Illyrian tribe called the Dalmatae which lived in the area of the eastern Adriatic coast in the 1st millenium BC. It was part of the Illyrian kingdom between the 4th century BC until the Illyrian Wars in the 220s BC when it was conquered by the Roman Republic. The Dalmatians rebelled once again in 180 BC, but were again subdued in 168 BC.

Well, ancient Dalmatia at one point in history declared itself separate from the Illyrian Kingdom. Then later the slavic tribes came and assimilated the population, creating the Croatians, a very interesting civilization with a long history.

Suggestions:
Your UU sounds very good, and in a 21st century scenario I have a feeling that Croatia would win most of the time.

Your choice of leader is very nice, the first Croatian king to create a strong croatian kingdom ... however, it does not match your unique unit.

eh, come to think of it , your 2nd leader CAN match your UU ...

Might I suggest then making a second UU for Tomislav? Now , it would not be fair to include him in your civ unless you make a mod where all civilizations present have 2 UUs. But it's something to think about.

Nice work.

Illyric provinces have nothing to do with ancient Illyrian tribes, it was a short lived political entity during early 19.ct, during the Napoleon era.

Modern leader is not yet decided upon. The current Prime Minister is just filling the spot until a decision is made.

As for era of Tomislav... I'm not sure what unit to implement, there were no professional armies back then, and his army did not differentiate from the army of any other European Christian ruler. Perhaps some kind of naval unit, but... not interesting enough.

http://www.studiacroatica.com/jcs/01/01mandic.htm

During Tomislav's reign, Croatia had an army of 100,000 infantrymen and 60,000 mounted soldiers. Its navy consisted of 80 large and 100 small ships.[5] Tomislav was conscious of his power. He courageously repelled neighboring enemies, particularly Magyars, whom he defeated several times.[6] However, he neither attacked neighbors nor longed for their territories.

Maybe he shouldn't be "aggressive" in the civ?

I am willing to bet those numbers are exxagerated.

I am willing to bet those numbers are exxagerated.

C. Porphyrogenitus, op. cit., Ch. 31, p. 150

Thats the source of those numbers..

Porphyrogenitus, is the byzantium emperor, and came from a book he wrote.
I guess some chance of exagerating if we want to speculate.. since they're allies. but speculation is all fun and games but it is usually wrong. I will speculate and say maybe the Bulgar king speculated those numbers were wrong too, and he ended up with a heart attack..So in that case that would had been a bad bet.. Ofcourse that is a speculation too, and most likely wrong too lol. So I'll hold off from betting.

MORE PROOF that those numbers are not high.

Would be the fact that Croatia keeps expanding the empire until 1074. "The mediæval Croatian kingdom reached its peak during the reign of King Petar Krešimir IV (1058–1074)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Croatia#Medieval_Croatian_state_.28unti l_1102.29

Finally, "The Battle of Gvozd Mountain (Peter´s Mountain) was probably one of the biggest and bloodiest battle of the middle ages. It was also a decisive evant for the history of Croatia and Hungary.

The battle took place in the year of 1097.
BIGGEST BATTLES IN MIDDLEAGES.. require a lot of troops.
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gvozd_Mountain_%28Peter%60s_Mountain%29"
I rest my case.

http://www.studiacroatica.com/jcs/01/01mandic.htm

During Tomislav's reign, Croatia had an army of 100,000 infantrymen and 60,000 mounted soldiers. Its navy consisted of 80 large and 100 small ships.[5] Tomislav was conscious of his power. He courageously repelled neighboring enemies, particularly Magyars, whom he defeated several times.[6] However, he neither attacked neighbors nor longed for their territories.

Maybe he shouldn't be "aggressive" in the civ?

Aggressive trait is not about aggressive behaviour, but militarism. Since Tomislav placed great focus on military might and was one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful monarchs at the time(I am not implying that Croatia was a superpower, but compared to the power that other kings could project(or not due to disobedient vassals), in some kingdoms, dukes were more powerful than kings). He defeated both Magyars and Bulgarians within two years. 924. and 926. I think. And these two were the main predators in Europe at the time.

I think that it would be better to replace this unique unit with the Trenkovi panduri unit(mix between conquistador and cavalry) as the one you put in is, let's face it.. bogus:crazyeye:
i don't think that croatian armoured divisions are unique, while croatian cavalry was at least famous throughout the turkish invasion.

Trenkovi panduri were hussars, and they're currently Hungarian unique unit. Croatian light cavalry during 30years war was simply refered to as Croats, even light cavalries that were not Croatian were called Croats at the time.

There is nothing bogus about Croatian Garde brigades, and their trait represents the tactics used in Bljesak, Oluja and the whole '94-'95 Bosnia campaign. From Kupres to the gates of Banja Luka. Croatian Garde is the most effective military unit that fought a war in Europe at the end of 20.ct.

And Trenk was more famous for fighting the Prussians in the war of Austrian succession, than the Turks in the Russian-Turkish war. And he was the first to implement a military musician band. I'm not gonna make a unique unit based on one eccentric commander and a mob of 1,000 cavarlymen.

Your UU should be U (how convenient) - Ustasa and he should have features similar to Grenadier except he should have retreat ratio 100%, HP instead of 12 maybe 6. He should allow you to construct Jasenovac which will allow you to kill 1/3 of the population of your country that are different religion.
This is all based on historic events and do not even try to explain.

Of course, with above mentioned Ante Pavelic as leader (aggresive, retarded) that would be true croatian civ.
Trolling - warned. You were warned above, which you have ignored. Consider this your final warning.

Your choice of leader is very nice, the first Croatian king to create a strong croatian kingdom ... however, it does not match your unique unit.Do Panzers match any of Gemany's leaders?

I like your UU choice, because Croatia fought quite a lot in last 10-20 years. And it obviously can't be Ustaša :)

I don't know enough history to know who Trenk was :blush: , but if a neighbour doesn't know that, it's hard to imagine that most Americans would.

Franjo Trenk was a very 'charismatic' Croatian commander from the 17th century. After his wife died from the plague, he went off to fight the Turks in Russia as a mercenary. He was pretty good at it, but made a lot of enemies, since he was not the one to obey orders(like when ordered to retreat he led the army to charge and won). Later, when the war of Austrian succession broke out.

He gathered volunteers and marched for Vienna to help Maria Theresa. He made a big show in town. Colorful uniforms and first military band in Europe. After that he went off to wreak havoc in Prussia. This later resulted in many tales for scaring young children. (IE. If you misbehave Croats will come and eat you.) Later, when he gloriously returned to Vienna, a jealous minister accused him of atrocities vs. civilians. He threw that minister off the balcony in the opera and was locked up in prison where he shortly after died of illness.

He threw that minister off the balconyHow civilized way of solving things ... :crazyeye:

How civilized way of solving things ... :crazyeye:

Well, at least he never slandered again.

back in those days disagreements went to a "fued" gun battle.

That slanderer wasn't very respected if he could not set up a gun battle.... and obviously was not very good at hand combat, if he got tossed of a balcony.

Does anyone have 'U boj, u boj' aria from the opera Nikola Šubić Zrinski by Ivan pl. Zajc?

New version is out:
1.02:
Croats as playable civ
-Features Croat city names
-Four historical leaders:
--Tomislav(Spiritual, Philosophical, favors Organized Religion)
--Nikola Subic Zrinski(Creative, Financial, favors Hereditary Rule)
--Josip Jelacic(Aggressive, Expansive, favors Nationhood)
--Ante Starcevic(Organized, Industrious, favors Emancipation)
-Unique unit: Mechanized Guard Brigade(same as regular Mechanized Infantry but starts with the Commando promotion and unique skin)
-Unique sounds for Croatian leaders on diploscreen
-Unique sound for units
-Unique names for UU units

Download 1.02 (http://www.filegone.com/ecab)

Nice.. Downloading Right Now..

Ban Jelacic Time

Hmmm, the link is not working, it sends me right away to main Filegone page... Zbun...

Dunno, just tried it and works for me.

Try again:

Croat mod 1.02 (http://www.filegone.com/ecab)

Dunno, just tried it and works for me.

Try again:

Croat mod 1.02 (http://www.filegone.com/ecab)

Nope. Not a chance...

Tried with Firefox and Opera, tried clicking on a link, copying and pasting and manualy writing the address and no use...

I dunno what's happennin'... :confused:

Tried with IE - same thing...

Must be something with my internet provider (?) ...

(still it's a mistery why it re-directs me to the main Filegone page)

Well, if you have a large inbox, I can mail it to you, its a bit over 7Mb...

...perhaps it has to do with some security setting or something... cookies, etc...

Well, if you have a large inbox, I can mail it to you, its a bit over 7Mb...

...perhaps it has to do with some security setting or something... cookies, etc...

Yeah, I do have a large inbox :) but somehow I managed to get through Filegone ;) and right now I'm downloading mod... :) Impressions tonight or tomorrow... :)

Works for me ....

srdjann, you can get it here too:

http://www.civilizacija.net/download.php?list.6

I try to keep track and update as soon as possible. The newest Yugoslavia mod is also up.

I am having lots of fun playing with this mod.. Awesome Job Anima

I tried it and there are things that I like and things that I dislike (I'm sure that you already know what am I thinking about ;))

What I like are the sounds for selecting and ordering the units. The idea of using actual quotes are great! :)

I'm not sure from which period that flag origins (it represents Croatia, Dalmatia and Slavonia, right?), it's really nice and you wouldn't make a mistake with official flag too because it's also very nice.

But (there is always a but, right? ;)) when I heard the songs that you used for diplo and war diplo music I got very very dissapointed...

I understand your (Croatian) feelings towards 1991.-1995. war ("Domovinski rat") and I understand what it means to you. I am from Belgrade, from Serbia, and I totally agree that war was started by Belgrade (by S.Milosevic) and that Croatian people were defending against great military force and sick Serbian nationalistic ideas.

I understand that Croatian people didn't want the war. Also I understand that Croatian regime in that time had to use propaganda to motivate people to defend the country. I understand why today Croatian people still have such strong national feeling.

I have a lot of friends in Croatia and I travel to Zagreb at least once in a year and I didn't have any problem when I went to Croatia (I visited almost whole Croatia from Beli Manastir and Osijek via Koprivnica, Zagreb, Rijeka to Split) and I know that that strong national feeling is not aggressive towards non-Croats. I must say that I as a Serb feel very comfortable in Croatia - in Zagreb, in Split (you can see my travel report from Split on my homepage (http://www.srdjann.tk)), in Koprivnica, in Rijeka...

But (here comes the point) one thing is strong national feeling and the other is ustasha's ideology (I'm sure that I don't have to explain who were ustashas and their leader Ante Pavelic during WWII) and you know why I am mentioning this. For diplo sounds for Croatia mod you took 2 songs of croatian singer called Thompson who is representative and promoter of ustasha's ideology today in Croatia.

I'm very sorry but for me this is totally unacceptable. Please don't take this personally because I'm still very greatfull for what you did for Yugoslavia mod. I know that you have the right to make your mod in the way that you like but I must say that I can not play this mod because of this since I find Thompson and his songs very insultive, not just towards Serbs but towards humanity, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. If your intention was to make this mod just for Croats than ok, but I'm also sure that there are a lot of Croats who will also find this insultive and who wouldn't like it like I would be insulted if someone makes Serbia mod with chetnicks and Radovan Karadzic as a leader.

You said that you will avoid Tudjman as a leader because of it's controversy and because it's early. I must say that I would much more easily swallow Tudjman than Thompson, even though I have a lot of negative feeling towards Tudjman too. I know that Tudjman did leave some positive work behind.

But Thompson??? He is 100% negative and I just don't get it how could you skip Tudjman and put Thompson's songs?!?!?...

I hope that this will not cause flamming - I just had to write this because for me there is no room for Thompson inside something which can be world wide.

With Thompson it's not even Croatia wide.

Ah.. nationalism, destroyed us all, now we are few weak and poor small countrys which EU and USA can toy with however they wish. And we also implant ourselves capitalism, yuck. ;) Oh and srdjann, thompson is nothing other than a commercial singer, he singed those kind of songs in time of war when they were popular and now they're popular in few nationalists heads and some stupid kids, so he's just another capitalist money-grabber from weakminded nationalists heads. Well enough with the stupid politics, I'm just downloading the mod, gonna check it soon then comment again.

There played it, very nice change since the last version, well that's not too much of a insulting diplo song of thompson srdjan, don't know about war song, didn't head it yet. But maybe for a peace diplo song Anima Croatorum you could put Croatian anthem better but its your mod, you have right to do it however you please. Good job, and I'm glad you got rid of that Sanader from leaders, he's really doesn't deserve to be in the historical leaders. :) Ante Pavelic would not be my choice of leaders too, because he was just a Hitlers back-licker but as I said, your mod, your right. :)

With Thompson it's not even Croatia wide.

I understand your sentiments, but there is nothing politically incorrect with either of the tunes used(maaybe croat_war_intro is somewhat grey, but in a broader context the phrase is just a part of a 19th century Croat greeting, the same one out of which bog/bok is derived)

Thompson may be an idiot, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with either of the tunes, and plus, the main theme is band-aidish, its sung by a large number of Croatian artists. In either of the themes there is not a single word that could be considered insultive, I'm not twelve.

I'm not promoting Thompson, he does a fine job ridiculing himself. And he doesnt promote anything anymore, since he's blacklisted and under the magnifying glass of the press.

But to claim that either of these songs is any form of fascist propaganda or was intended as fascist propaganda is simply not true. Bojna Čavoglave is the most recognizable song from the war period and to many it represents the spirit that rallied our people to hold off the aggression. We did not fight because of propaganda, but because we had no other option. It was literaly liberty or death. I dont want to go through remembering what went on just a few km from here, on the other side of Drava. The first half, the one used has absolutely nothing against any group in any possible interpretation.

And the other song. It merely focuses on Croat regions and natural beauties. Sung by a dozen artists.

To claim that either is fascist propaganda would be equal to claim that anything Lepa Brena recorded in 80-ies was fascist propaganda, because of that thing in Brcko, '93/'94(not sure of the year anymore) when she was parading around in RS uniform.

If its that big of deal, I'll put Škoro instead.

About the flag, its the royal flag, Triune Kingdom of Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia, the 1848. version fielded by Ban Jelačić. First tri-color with crest. The problem with the modern flag is that the crown crests are too small for a 128x128 flag.

I think the songs are great.

I didnt hear anything mentioned in them, that anyone would find offensive
I vote to keep them.

Srdjann,u seem to be concerned about some things maybe the artist said in certain interviews or so, so u feel like he's just a talented redneck, kinda like a country singer in the USA. Trust me there are some messed up songs in the USA too like "sticking a boot up the ass" of the people who did the 9/11 osama bin laden .. that was a big hit a few years ago..But that can't be compared to the songs Anima placed in.

I Really feel like thats digging a bit too deep, just to find something to not like about the civ. Especially when its not even directly at the songs..

If anyone cares about my two cents, I agree with Srđan that nothing that Thompson ever sang should not be a musical representation of Croatia. I would not like at all having losers like "Srpski Talibani" singing "Hvala ti Arkane" or some šit like that in "Serbia" mod.

But I would not be "offended". It's a Croatian mod, nothing to do with me, and seeing that I would very rarely play as Croatia, and much more against Croatia in Lankou's SuperCiv patch, hearing Thompson might be extra incentive to conquer it to the last city ;)

Still, I would be... slightly disappointed, is the right word. I wouldn't think, from your point of view, that Thompson's tunes should be representative of your civ in any way. The suggestion that Thompson "doesn't really mean it but just sings it for idiots who get off on it" - well I simply don't buy that, but even if that was the case, would be irrelevant for me.

Again, my vote goes to Player1's suggestion:

Yet, 'Marš na Drinu' is kosher. And that is definitively song that had recieved completely alternate meaning and symbolizes Milosevics aspirations of the in the 90-ies.

no it is not. anima don't be like that. i don't agree whit srdjann that serbs started the war coz i'm from bosnia and i know what i'm talking about, but still i don't want to put some war songs from '91-'95 in serbian mod. i don't like tmpson too and everything about "domovinski rat". please whitout politics, but this is political song at least for me. and i agree whit mr. v about super civ :) if you put that song, first thing in the game for me is to destroy croatia.

Yet, 'Marš na Drinu' is kosher. And that is definitively song that had recieved completely alternate meaning and symbolizes Milosevics aspirations of the in the 90-ies.

Yes, it is kosher, in my view. That song was written about a battle against Austro-Hungary, and has, throughout the times, become one of the nicest Serb traditional songs. In years of Milošević, every single traditional song was abused and associated with Arkan, Mladić, škorpions, tigers, etc, "Маrš na Drinu", "Tamo daleko", "Bože pravde". Is that the fault of those songs though? What should be done if Serbia some day finally gets a proper government that will want to bury all relics of Milošević's reign - should those songs be burned and banned and never played again?

What if someone said that "Lijepa naša" brings memories of NDH and nazi-puppet-state because it was a Croat anthem in 1941-1945? Ridicilous! "Lijepa naša" is older than that, and has nothing to do with the fact that Pavelić used it as an anthem.

However, if someone like Ceca sang "Marš na Drinu", I'd never agree with putting that version in, that would indeed (for me) put an entirely different light on it. But the versions of "Marš na Drinu" that have been suggested have not been ruined by personification of unwelcome characters performing it, unless someone particularly does not like Smak?

OK, it's your mod :) and if you like it that no one but Croats will play it, that's fine by me...

I'm sure that you are aware that you can not change my mind about Thompson and his songs. I will not try to do that as well - I'm just writing my oppinion with my arguments.

The thing is that I couldn't play anything which promotes Thompson in positive way, even though that are "political correct" songs (which is NOT the case here since in the first song there is a part of the text which mentions "Herceg-Bosna" which is NOT part of Croatia but Bosnia and Herzegovina and that is completely the same like mentioning that same part and Lika in Serbian song "Oj Srbijo mati", which is disguisting for me and I can think how much is disguisting to you).

I was against puting cities which were never part of Serbia into Serbia mod (like Banja Luka, Knin, Niksic) so it would be against my principles not to complain against this because it is the same situation.

And that's all without mentioning Thompsons ustasha background which exists even though you tried to minimize it. Man who sings "Jasenovac i Gradiska Stara" can not be representative of Croatia because he is not representing the essence of Republic of Croatia which is based on anti-fascistic battle and not on the state which he glorifies (NDH - Independent State of Croatia - ustasha's state).

But since I'm not a Croatian I will stop here. If you like it this way ok, you will represent Croatia in wrong way and I am not the one who will receive consequences - you will.

I succeded into what matters to me and that's that Serbia mod does not have elements which are not representative (like cities which have never been a part of Serbia) and which are very bad (like the thing that someone tried to implement Nikolaj Velimirovic as a great person).

I'll finish - technical details of this mod are superb, many of elements are great (leaders and the flag especially) and the only one thing that I don't like in this mod is the music and the author of those songs. Unfortunately that bothers me so much that makes this mod unplayable for me and I hope that in the future you will find some more acceptable songs which will represent Croatian people, Croatian state and Croatian struggle for freedom because I would really like to play Civilization 4 as Croatia (just like I like playing as Yugoslavia and Serbia :))

Alrightee, here's 1.02a
-new sound theme

Download 1.02a (http://www.filegone.com/nyze)

It's a Croatian mod,
Lankou's SuperCiv patch

it's a croatian mod, and Superciv is a patch? :lol:

about the music issue, what i would do is to get only instrumental music. however, that's quite hard to find it.

Anima, how did you made the song last only 35s? it would lower the size of my mods... (in general 3'35 long)

All you need is a freeware util called Audacity
Download link (http://www.download.com/Audacity/3000-2170_4-10325373.html?tag=lst-0-3)

and lame_enc.dll

Download link (http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?lame_enc)

It can do anything you need with mp3. Record, edit, mix...

Anima, i have a nice midi of "U boj, u boj" from the Nikola Subic Zrinski opera (made by yours truly), I think it would be a much nicer Croatian background music, so maybe you could include it in the next version? Oh, and by the way, you may want to consider using Stjepan Radic instead of Ante Starcevic as a modern Croatian representative and a very positive historical figure to boot.

I have never heard this song from 1.02a version before (it's Škoro, right? :)) but I must say that it gets into ears easily... :)

I have another proposition, and that is that in new version you re-format song(s) to 96kbps (like I did in Yugoslavia mod) or maybe to 64kbps (I shall try to see what's the quality) so that would leave a space for adding another song and I would like to hear Prljavo kazaliste and "Zadnja ruza Hrvatska"... :)

this is something of the topic you guys were recently talking about. ive read on a review site of civ4 that civs have attitudes towards other civc like that some civs would never attack a different civ. if this is the case could all of you civ builders do this when you were making your civc. if you could, could you than post what that other friendly civ is to croatia, and the other creaters please answer for yugoslavia and serbia.

Also, the best equipped and most trained offensive-type units of the Soviets were called Mechanized Guard Squadrons or something like it :)

Like I wrote on Serbia mod topic...

Well I released new version (1.1) in which I reduced songs to 64kbps and they still sound good but the file size is cutted a lot :)

The only thing which is still mistery to me is that the game will not accept unit and select orders if they are not 128kbps (zbun) - I reduced them to 64kbps as well but they didn't work so I had to get them back to 128kbps...

If you reduce your music to 64kbps maybe you can add another song (and yes I would like to be above mentioned "Zadnja ruza Hrvatska" :))...

this is something of the topic you guys were recently talking about. ive read on a review site of civ4 that civs have attitudes towards other civc like that some civs would never attack a different civ. if this is the case could all of you civ builders do this when you were making your civc. if you could, could you than post what that other friendly civ is to croatia, and the other creaters please answer for yugoslavia and serbia.

Well, I didn't know that, but anyway I don't think that is much important when you know that the only way to have, for an example Serbia and Croatia ;) in one mod is to play LAnkou's Superciv mod, so maybe this is the question for him... ;)

I cant believe you've put nazi song in Croatian mod. :) Untill now you were at least pretending to be normal.

Anima, i have a nice midi of "U boj, u boj" from the Nikola Subic Zrinski opera (made by yours truly), I think it would be a much nicer Croatian background music, so maybe you could include it in the next version? Oh, and by the way, you may want to consider using Stjepan Radic instead of Ante Starcevic as a modern Croatian representative and a very positive historical figure to boot.

Sounds great, could you upload it on www.filegone.com and post a link?

Ante Starcevic is five times more positive than Stjepan Radic. Math cannot be beaten. ;)

I have another proposition, and that is that in new version you re-format song(s) to 96kbps (like I did in Yugoslavia mod) or maybe to 64kbps (I shall try to see what's the quality) so that would leave a space for adding another song and I would like to hear Prljavo kazaliste and "Zadnja ruza Hrvatska"...

I'll try how it sounds, maybe even reduce volume a bit.


this is something of the topic you guys were recently talking about. ive read on a review site of civ4 that civs have attitudes towards other civc like that some civs would never attack a different civ. if this is the case could all of you civ builders do this when you were making your civc. if you could, could you than post what that other friendly civ is to croatia, and the other creaters please answer for yugoslavia and serbia.

Leaders do not have special preferance to other civs but to their civics, and that preferance is stated in first post. If you run Organized Religion Tomislav likes you better. You run Hereditary Rule Nikola likes you better. You run Nationhood Josip likes you better, you run Emancipation Ante likes you better.

Airforce weakens the enemy, you use a tank or two to break their front lines, and then Garde brigades pour through the breakthrough and deep into hostile territory and wreak havoc. Sounds familiar?

It's like blitzkrieg tactic of german army in WWII.
Just with mechanized inf. instead of tank divisions.

Could someone tell me where the name Croatia and Croat come from?
I think you've always called yourselves Hrvat and Hrvatska.
So why this foreign name?

BTW the same thing with us.
We call ourselves magyar and our country Magyarország but in the western world it's generally called Hungaria or Hungary, and hungarians.
A bit odd because we are not related to huns so it's confusing too.

It's possible that I'm wrong , but this is what a Croation nationlist once told me:

In the early days of the Croation people (I assume under their first king, Tomislav, which apparently had a large army) , the 'soldiers' wore "ties." Thus the people recieved this name for their ties that they wore. Hrvat I believe is "tie" in Croatian. We (Albanians) use "kravat."

Could someone tell me where the name Croatia and Croat come from?
I think you've always called yourselves Hrvat and Hrvatska.
So why this foreign name?

BTW the same thing with us.
We call ourselves magyar and our country Magyarország but in the western world it's generally called Hungaria or Hungary, and hungarians.
A bit odd because we are not related to huns so it's confusing too.

Well, here's how the mythology goes:
During the Persian conquest of Egypt all tribes allied with the Persian Empire were inscribed on a stone plate, among them were the Huravurdi/Haruvath. This original name was derived from either the word shepherd or friend. This tribal alliance lived in todays NE Iran and W Afghanistan. Pushed by the Mongols they left westwards and settled where Tanais(Don river in Russia) meets the sea. This stone plate was recovered at the site, it dates to 200AD and mentions the name Horoathos.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Horovathos.jpg/175px-Horovathos.jpg

At this time the Horoathos meet the Antii(proto-Slavs) and they merge into a tribal alliance, proto-Croats. This part is more legend than fact, kinda like the Scythian theory of Magyar origin(or even the theory that extends to Sumeria).

Croata is merely latin of Horvat(which then became Hrvat). Basically, I dont see how anglophones could ever pronounce Hrvat or Hrvatska. So Croat and Croatia were imported from Latin into English.

In Croatian Hungary is Mađarska and Hungarians are Mađari(letter đ = gy), archaic name that was also used was Ugri and Ugarska, but that name is more political and was used for unionists(supporters of unifying and centralising Hungary, aristocracy), not ethnic Hungarians. Anyway, Hungarian is actually not equal to Magyar:

The word Hungarian has also a wider meaning, because – especially in the past – it referred to all inhabitants of the Kingdom of Hungary irrespective of their ethnicity (i.e. not only to the Magyars). Specifically, the Latin term natio hungarica referred to all nobles of the Kingdom of Hungary irrespective of their ethnicity.

Anyway, about the name origin it says:

The word derives from the old Slavic word og(ъ)r- for the proto-Magyars. Through Germanic languages, the word got into other European languages ((H)ungarus, (H)ungarn, Vengry etc.). The Slavic word is thought to be derived from the Bulgaro-Turkic Onogur, possibly because the proto-Magyars were neighbours (or confederates) of the Empire of the Onogurs in the 6th century, whose leading tribal union was called the "Onogurs" (meaning "ten tribes").

The H- in many languages (Hungarians, Hongrois, Hungarus etc.) is a later addition. It was taken over from the word "Huns", which was a similar semi-nomadic tribe living some 400 years earlier in present-day Hungary and having a similar way of life (or according to the older theories the people from which the Magyars arose). In ancient times, through the middle ages, and even today, the identification of Hungarians with the Huns has often occurred in history and literature, however this identification began to be disputed around the late 19th century, and is still a source of major controversy among scholars who insist that there could be no direct connection between the two.

Hun names like Attila and Réka are still popular among Hungarians, and forms derived from Latin Hungaria are used like in the racetrack Hungaroring (mostly due to the strong English language pressure in tourism and international matters).

Magyar is today simply the Hungarian word for Hungarian. In English and many other languages, however, Magyar is used instead of Hungarian in certain (mainly historical) contexts, usually to distinguish ethnic Hungarians (i.e. the Magyars) from the other nationalities living in the Hungarian kingdom.

I've also read one theory where Hungarian is derived of Ungvar.

It's possible that I'm wrong , but this is what a Croation nationlist once told me:

In the early days of the Croation people (I assume under their first king, Tomislav, which apparently had a large army) , the 'soldiers' wore "ties." Thus the people recieved this name for their ties that they wore. Hrvat I believe is "tie" in Croatian. We (Albanians) use "kravat."

About the tie. There is no indication that it was worn that early. First records about are from 16ct. And it was made popular in the centuries that followed. While there is no doubt that we invented the tie, the word itself might predate what it means now. There was a very similar french word that was used for ornaments worn on shirts and the word was later used to describe ties after Croatian mercinaries popularized them in Louis XIV's France.

Thanks for clarifying that. Very interesting!

well, tie is in French "cravate"

i just checked in a dictionnary of etymology (history of words) and it comes from Croates (Croatian in french)
With more precision, before 1648, it was the name of light cavalrymen (from croatia) who wear ties...
then from 1649, the tie took the name of the men (cravate)

HIH

Yes, as Anima_Croatorum pointed out:About the tie. There is no indication that it was worn that early. First records about are from 16ct. And it was made popular in the centuries that followed. While there is no doubt that we invented the tie, the word itself might predate what it means now. There was a very similar french word that was used for ornaments worn on shirts and the word was later used to describe ties after Croatian mercinaries popularized them in Louis XIV's France.

Well, I didn't know that, but anyway I don't think that is much important when you know that the only way to have, for an example Serbia and Croatia ;) in one mod is to play LAnkou's Superciv mod, so maybe this is the question for him... ;)
i dont play as croatia or serbia. if they were in a patch with yugoslavia i would love to destroy them. i like unleashing the hatered on other nations (mostly on america and asian civ's) that we unleashed on each other in the 90's.
Trolling - warned.

Anima, here's a link to the "U boj u boj" midi: http://www.filegone.com/kzgy

Unfortunately it's only 2 instrument version (two handed piano version to be exact), but it should do nicely.

@Anima Croatorum: I was wondering about the City Names you have given. Fe. during King Tomislavs Time todays Bosnia and Herzegowina was under Croatian controll. So far I played using your mod i didnt noticed that some Bosnian City Names are used within the Game. Is this correct?

http://www.moja-domovina.de/bih-hb/tomislav.jpg

Golden rule of political correctness: For existing states use only cities that are within their national borders today.

City list is composed of cities ranked by todays size(exception Sesvete, but on the list due to size), after that covered by tourist spots and islands and then cities that were missed out by international statistics for some reason.

Sounds correct. Was just wondering how you handelt this 'City Question'.

Pozdrav.

Very nice these mods, but how I can to integrate them maps of other scenarios?
For example, in a European Scenario with 10 civilization, how I add to these or others?

Di ste, zemljaci, dobro je znat da nas ima i na civ forumima ;)

I will download this mod. Anyone creating domovinski rat mod?

Very nice these mods, but how I can to integrate them maps of other scenarios?
For example, in a European Scenario with 10 civilization, how I add to these or others?

Never tried it. Maybe through world builder after loading a mod. Try working with LAnkou's Superciv, or perhaps analyze an existing similar mod to see what is needed.

Perhaps the main creation & customization forum is a better place to ask.

Di ste, zemljaci, dobro je znat da nas ima i na civ forumima

I will download this mod. Anyone creating domovinski rat mod?

Too fresh for my taste. My interests in historical mods lie before 1918.

I'm not exactly sure, but I remember reading somewhere that the Croatians were very well-known for the ferocity of their mounted troops in the late Medieval period. Is this true?

How might this be represented in the game? A unit replacing the knight?

http://www.vojska.net/history/france/napoleon.asp
During the years of French ruling in Croatian-Slovenian parts, Croatians served in many French military formations. Napoleon was one of many rulers that were fascinated by Croatian war skills, he said to General Marmont: "I never had more braver and better soldiers". Napoleon also said this: "Croatians, there are best soldiers in the world. If I had only 100000 Croatians, I would conquer the entire world!".


http://www.hr/darko/etf/cravate.html
Two Croatian regiments of Royal Cravate were under the French flag in military operations undertaken by Napolen I in Russia. Especially important was their ensurance of Napoleon's retreat from Russia across Berezino in 1812/13. More than two thirds of the Croats lost their lives: 400 soldiers and 10 officers, plus 357 dead of famine and freezing. Only 296 survived. According to Marmont, Napoleon declared: ``I never had more curageous and better soldiers''. According to [Dolbeau], p 18, Napoleon addressed the following message to these 296 Croatian survivors:

Hier, j'ai pu m'assurer de mes propres yeux de votre courage et de votre fidélité. Vous avez acquis la gloire immortelle et l'estime, et je vous place parmi mes meilleurs troupes. Pour votre courage, je vous promets de vous accorder tout ce que vous me demanderez de bon droit lorsque nous serons de retour. Je suis satisfait de vous, très satisfait.

Bok ljudi :)

Lijepo je vidjeti zemljake i susjede na omiljenoj stranici!

Great job Anima Croatorum! :goodjob:

I'm not exactly sure, but I remember reading somewhere that the Croatians were very well-known for the ferocity of their mounted troops in the late Medieval period. Is this true?

How might this be represented in the game? A unit replacing the knight?

Well... you know the light cavalry hussar that represent the Magyar UU. Well, the earliest one came from Croatia, then the light cavalry/raider irregulars called Pandur also came first from Croatia. In 30 years war light cavalry regiments were simply refered to as Croats. Most protestant prayers from that era were for God to protect them from plague, war and Croats.

In new 1.05 superciv is error with croatian leaders. Tomislav and Ban Jelacic doesn't have pictures. Must be some minor error in xml.

I think Lankou by mistake had DDS image files pointing to the wrong folder. It is very easy to correct, I did it last night. Apart from changing the path do DDS files, they themselves weren't there, I had to copy "Tomislav", "Ante" and "Josip" folders with DDS image from Anima's mod to Lankou's SuperCiv.

Zdravo Anima,

Tek sam sada vidio ovaj thread. Mislim da si napravio super posao s novim civama. Odmah cu skinut i probat igrat Hrvatsku i ostale civilizacije koje si napravio. U pocetku sam isto zasledio da ces (mozda) napravit i mod Slovenija. Ako trebas ikakvu pomoc s informacijama (zgodovinskim) pisi mi na mail asosco@hotmail.com ili ovde na forumu. Keep up the good work :goodjob:

Pozdrav iz SLO
Alex

In new 1.05 superciv is error with croatian leaders. Tomislav and Ban Jelacic doesn't have pictures. Must be some minor error in xml.
I don't have the original Lankou's SuperCIV any more, as I fixed it, but I think I can remember:
1. Make sure that folder
Mods\SuperCiv_V1.05\assets\art\Interface\Leaderhea ds
have subfolders "Ante", "Josip", "Nikola", "Tomislav", and if not, copy them from Anima's Mod folder structure. Each subfolder should have just name and .dds file in there, ante.dds, josip.dds, nikola.dds and tomislav.dds

2. Edit the file
Mods\SuperCiv_V1.05\assets\xml\art\CIV4Defines_Lea derhead.xml
Find entry ART_DEF_LEADER_CROAT_TOMISLAV
Correct the NIF line to read
<NIF>art/LeaderHeads/Tomislav/tomislav.dds</NIF>

3. Similar for the rest.

This mod is rocks!!! I got my best ever cive score wid them:lol: :goodjob: :king:

Reprisal I think that Wei-Yan also answered your question: "Croatians were very well-known for the ferocity of their mounted troops in the late Medieval period. Is this true?"
with this: "This mod is rocks!!! I got my best ever cive score wid them"

;) :lol: :lol:

I know it was a few pages ago and it is solved now, but I have to comment the song issues you had for this mod.
Thompson may be a weird-minded man with hard to clearly see goals, but he certainly can't be called a representative of today's ustaša movement as this movement doesn't even exist anymore. There are a few meaningless individuals that stick to a long-dead ideology that doesn't have much to do with the croatian nation but is much more a branch of the German nazional-socialist movement.

Thompson writes and sings some of the most beautiful patriotic songs and can be called an ustaša only by croat-haters (svi znamo tko je sve Hrvate zvao ustašama) and as that should not be tolerated on this forum. By stating that Thompson is an ustaša you are telling that all people who like him are ustašas and are in that way calling me an ustaša, which is a personal offence to me as I am strongly against ustašas and their ideology. "Lijepa li si" and "Bojna čavoglave" can not be called negative songs under any circumstances, it's even ridiculous, as they only represent patriotism.

Someone said that the verse "Herceg-Bosno, srce ponosno" is bad because Herceg-Bosna is a part of Bosnia and Hercegovina, but the fact that 70% of all the people who live there are Croats, the performers referred to Herceg-Bosna as to the people who live there, not the teritory itself.

I have nothing agains the choice of Škoro after all, I jsut had to sort a few things out here.

Anyway, great work on the mod, I love it!

I have to try this mod!!!

I stoped playing Civ4 some time ago (when i got wow addicted), this looks like a good reason to get back to playing civ.

Great work Anima Croatorum, did you do custimization on some other games?

As for material, historical refference and political correctness I think it is best to use era of Croatian history prior to 1939.

I'll have to listen to music before i pass comments on it. However here is a song sang by Japanease chorus just feels right for civilization. Hope you like it

http://www.hr/darko/etf/uboj.html

Will the Croatian Mod also work on "Warlords"?

Will the Croatian Mod also work on "Warlords"?
Please make this compatible with Warlords ....Great Work here.

Zivjela Hrvatska i Bog sa tobom.

No answer so far ... How bout other selfmade Civilizations? Does anyone know something about compabilty with Warlords?

Zdravo Anima !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello All !!!!!!!!!!

I for one don't want to see this Civ die on Civ Fanatics ...

I have in recent days successfully converted many pre-warlord units and civs and have made them WARLORDS compatible; and in so doing, I have become a little bit familiar with the additional WARLORDS tags included in various xml files.

I HOPE THIS EARLY SUCCESS TRANSLATES TO ANIMA CROATORUM's CREATION... don't hold your breath as I still have to educate myself with graphic aspect of this aspiration...

So, this leads me to ask the Community: What would you consider should be Croatia's Unique Building ? I suppose someone else has already done this, or is in the process of doing this- if this is the case then GREAT !!!

Anyways, once done, I am hoping Anima Croatorum will respond and give his blessing to any continued project... because this is his Baby- and no one's else's- His hard work and no one else's... but "da jewel of Europe" should not disappear...

Anyways, I called my Dad, asked him for his opinion on Unique Buildings and he has so far suggested (in order of preference):

1) King's Palace in Dubrovnik
2) St. Marks Church in the old part of Zagreb
3) KNIN castle in Knin.
4) "Stara Krama" in Mahicno- LOL- :D :D :D (just joking here on the last choice...

Take care all
Zivjela HRVATSKA

ZDRAVA everyone:

Civ Gold 2 has nicely redone this project with 1.61 vanilla. In other words the MVP of modern age combat: " DA GUARD " - WILL CONTINUE TO RULE- as was in reality- so to in CIVILIZATION 4- SID MEIRERS: YOUR DA BEST !!!!

I have thanked CIV GOLD 2.0 for including CROATIA in their project.

Have also asked that it continue to be included in a hopeful Warlords edition.

Looks like the dream will live on....:king:

Zdravo Anima !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello All !!!!!!!!!!

I for one don't want to see this Civ die on Civ Fanatics ...

I have in recent days successfully converted many pre-warlord units and civs and have made them WARLORDS compatible; and in so doing, I have become a little bit familiar with the additional WARLORDS tags included in various xml files.

I HOPE THIS EARLY SUCCESS TRANSLATES TO ANIMA CROATORUM's CREATION... don't hold your breath as I still have to educate myself with graphic aspect of this aspiration...

So, this leads me to ask the Community: What would you consider should be Croatia's Unique Building ? I suppose someone else has already done this, or is in the process of doing this- if this is the case then GREAT !!!

Anyways, once done, I am hoping Anima Croatorum will respond and give his blessing to any continued project... because this is his Baby- and no one's else's- His hard work and no one else's... but "da jewel of Europe" should not disappear...

Anyways, I called my Dad, asked him for his opinion on Unique Buildings and he has so far suggested (in order of preference):

1) King's Palace in Dubrovnik
2) St. Marks Church in the old part of Zagreb
3) KNIN castle in Knin.
4) "Stara Krama" in Mahicno- LOL- :D :D :D (just joking here on the last choice...

Take care all
Zivjela HRVATSKA


Bog Amazing Game,
In my opinion Castle "Knin" would be THE Unique Building itself for the Croatians :)

Pozdrav sviman,
i101

It loads up great for me.

Gonna try playing through "vassal action" to make sure all is OK- but I really don't see a problem, as there are absolutely no xml errors upon loading the game.

Once done, I will formally address Anima Croatorum, Civ Gold and Amra for their blessing on releasing what I have completed here.

@ i101:

Thanks for your kind response.

Zivjela Hrvatska i Bog sa tobom.

a od kad hrvatska vojska ima tenkove?? valjda je poenta da odradis nesto iz istorija za UU, a ne tenk ili kako vec... pa da si podmornicu stavio bilo bi bolje, ali tenk? nisi realan!!!:lol: :lol:

a od kad hrvatska vojska ima tenkove?? valjda je poenta da odradis nesto iz istorija za UU, a ne tenk ili kako vec... pa da si podmornicu stavio bilo bi bolje, ali tenk? nisi realan!!!:lol: :lol:

This question is not ment for real, isnt it? Couse if it is I have to recommend you a few updates in terms of History.
Anyways Anima Croatorum did an Excellent Job with this modern Croatian Mod.

Btw. If I take a look at the Serbian playable Civ ...

Serbian Empire:
...
UU: Cetnik (Infantry, 2+ power)


:lol:

and the funniest of all are the so called Serbian Cities:


...
<City>Priština</City>
<City>Kosovska Mitrovica</City>
<City>Pec</City>
<City>Dubrovnik</City>
<City>Podgorica</City>
<City>Sarajevo</City>
<City>Banja Luka</City>
<City>Mostar</City>
<City>Tuzla</City>
<City>Zenica</City>
<City>Knin</City>
<City>Vukovar</City>
<City>Skopje</City>
<City>Vršac</City>
<City>Zemun</City>
<City>Novi Pazar</City>


So far I remeber those Cities are in Kosovo, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegowina, and Montenegro.
Very funny Civ.

Anyways, thanks God the Croatian Mod is a modern Mod. Not a Fantasy one like the Cedos have.

Croatia has a civilization.Wow.
SO - who's going to make up a mod for the Republic of Serbian Krajina?

I suggest the best would be to delete such entries.

This question is not ment for real, isnt it? Couse if it is I have to recommend you a few updates in terms of History.
Anyways Anima Croatorum did an Excellent Job with this modern Croatian Mod.

Btw. If I take a look at the Serbian playable Civ ...



:lol:

and the funniest of all are the so called Serbian Cities:



So far I remeber those Cities are in Kosovo, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegowina, and Montenegro.
Very funny Civ.

Anyways, thanks God the Croatian Mod is a modern Mod. Not a Fantasy one like the Cedos have.

1. Why do you assume that he is Serbian, couldn't he also be a Bosniak(sp)? Are the written languages that much different that you are able to tell the difference?

2. From what I remember that particular Serbian Mod you are referring to was created by a Brazilian so you cant really blame the city list on Serbian nationalism..

3. I have to agree with you, this is a great mod. :)

1. Lookup his Profile and you can see that 3 of 4 posts have been done in Serbia as playable civ Thread. And by the way, yes the written languages are that diffrent that I can tell almoste everytime where the person comes from.
2. I know that the guy who created it claimes to be from Brasil. But did you know that I am from Zimbabwe? ;)
3. :)

1. Lookup his Profile and you can see that 3 of 4 posts have been done in Serbia as playable civ Thread. And by the way, yes the written languages are that diffrent that I can tell almoste everytime where the person comes from.
2. I know that the guy who created it claimes to be from Brasil. But did you know that I am from Zimbabwe? ;)
3. :)
1. That means nothing there is a bunch of Croatians posting in that thread, does that make them Serbian?..No.

2. Are you being sarcastic here? :crazyeye:

..this is my last post in here, on this subject, I hope. Lets just let the thread die. :sad:

PlatinumS, what's up man? Long time no talk! How are the kids? :p

Imam problem. Za mod 1.02(www.filegone.com) uvijek me preusmjerava na opću stranicu nikako ne mogu downloadati file ako mi možeš pomoći nekako molim te i kako da instaliram file ako ga skinem.Unaprijed Hvala.

Imam problem. Za mod 1.02(www.filegone.com) uvijek me preusmjerava na opću stranicu nikako ne mogu downloadati file ako mi možeš pomoći nekako molim te i kako da instaliram file ako ga skinem.Unaprijed Hvala.

Hej care!
Vjerojatno je link u kvaru.
Predlažem da probaš na engleskom ljude pitat, jer ćeš jedino tako imat rezultata!

Good luck :goodjob:

Fala Tomislav.
OK.I have a problem.For mod 1.02 on filegone page I am always redirected to main page of filegone.I cannot download it and if anyone can help me THANKS ADVANCE and if I download it tell me how please. :D :D :D

Nemogu nikkako skinuti uvijek sa obadva linka me preusmjerava jel mi mo nekako pomoći.Fala unaprid.
I cannot download mod it, on any of two links, it always redirects mi can you help me.Thanks advance.

Nemogu nikkako skinuti uvijek sa obadva linka me preusmjerava jel mi mo nekako pomoći.Fala unaprid.
I cannot download mod it, on any of two links, it always redirects mi can you help me.Thanks advance.
Here you go:
http://www.civilizacija.net/files/downloads/c4-croatianciv102.zip

I have downloaded Croatian mod 1.02a and when i try to launc it it gives me a lot of xml errors while launching mod. i am trying on BtS with patch 3.19. do i need as plder patch or what? thnx

Anima Croatorum was the original maker of the Magyar Mod Hungary Civ Mod, see "Ho ho ho... A bottle of Tokaj. A Magyar civ"-thread - must have been drunken when developing the threads name ;)), but he left the scene long ago. At that time, there was no BtS and I think even no Warlords. You'll need to try it with vanilla civ4. Even there, you might get some errors. When I started working on the Magyar Mod, it threw several error messages on me - but they were all about civilopedia entries and the names of leaders and other objects that occur in the game. So the mod was playable, only some texts were broken. That's because Anima wrote this mod before the last patches were out and I could imagine that it will be the same for this mod. You shoul also know that the mod might reset some changes to stuff like unit stats (their properties like strength etc.)that have been made by later patches.

Good luck with the mod!

bog kako si?

I have got some questions about this nice mod:
1. Is it playable for 3.19 BtS?
2. Did you update this with some new units (special airplanes for example MiG-21, groundforces Hrvatska Legija, Crna Legija or mountaintroops) etc.? Maybe Screenshoots?
3. This is a standalone, pa? I hope so
It would be great if you can update and upgrade it, like the canadian mod or so. Croatia is a nice and interesting country.

My hrvatski jezik is terrible and long time ago and it was only a ubrzani tečaj, so please answer on english or german, because... ja sam nijemac ;)

Do videnja!

Well, just read my post. So:
1. As far as I see Animas last post here, is from 4 years ago. There was no Bts back then and probably no Warlords either. So it won't run as a mod written for vanilla civ4 will never run with BtS without additional work.
2. Again, Anima is a civ4 pensioneer since years, so he probably didn't update the mod, but at least he is not watching the forum or this thread. So your chances for getting and update ar limited - to be optimistic.
3. Looks like it's standalone. Best way to find it out, is to download the mod and give it a go. Hope the link is not broken. As I mentioned in my last post, it could be that even with vanilla it won't run as you most probably patched your copy, but the mod was probably ritten for an earlier version.

Still, if you like the mod, you might think about update it and then share it on the forum. I could imagine there would be interest.

nice job

hi guys i am new and i wanted to ask if some1 can help me to instal this mod because i dont now hot to do it i tried bit i failed
BTW pozdrav zemljaci :)

How did you try it, what have you done exactly?

Oh, and welcome to CFC :).

How did you try it, what have you done exactly?

Oh, and welcome to CFC :).

sry lol i just saw that is for civ 4 i found on the civ 5 forum a version for civ 5 nvm