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CivArmy s. 1994
Nov 23, 2005, 05:31 PM
The file is: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Abyssinians.zip

Civilization: Abyssinians
Noun: Abyssinians
Adjective: Abyssinian
Colors: Brown
Starts with: Mysticism and Mining
UU: Ethiopian Archer (archer, 1+ power)


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7752/abyssinians017hb.jpg


Title and leader: Negus Menelik II
Leader bonuses: Financial and Spiritual
Leader favourite civic: Hereditary Rule


Cities:
Addis Ababa
Aksum
Napata
Meroe
Djbout
TO BE CONTINUED...


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9339/abyssinians028hw.jpg


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2948/abyssinians036uw.jpg


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3928/abyssinians045fr.jpg


http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/618/abyssinians054nd.jpg

Red Door
Nov 23, 2005, 07:01 PM
I've been waiting for these guys. Thank you.

Plankhead
Nov 24, 2005, 01:07 PM
Ethiopia is awesome. They were, like, never conquered. Can't wait to see the animated leaderhead.

CivArmy s. 1994
Nov 24, 2005, 05:03 PM
Ethiopia is awesome. They were, like, never conquered. Can't wait to see the animated leaderhead.

I can't wait to produce one :lol: I have to wait the NIF plug in get ready :(

SuperBeaverInc.
Nov 24, 2005, 05:30 PM
I see you used the flag I designed :p

And also, the folder contains a Viking.ini and Viking.txt file. :p

Rufus T. Firefly
Nov 25, 2005, 02:19 AM
Why not use the imperial standard?

http://flagspot.net/images/e/et_1974.gif

CivArmy s. 1994
Nov 25, 2005, 01:59 PM
I see you used the flag I designed :p

I think those flags r cool, may I use many of them for my new civis? :D I expect there is any problem in use them :blush:

And also, the folder contains a Viking.ini and Viking.txt file. :p


thanks for advise me, my mistake :blush:


@Rufus T. Firefly: Good option for a new flag! Maybe I can create a alternative flag for Abyssinians or change it if people want ;) :) Thanks!

SuperBeaverInc.
Nov 25, 2005, 02:02 PM
I think those flags r cool, may I use many of them for my new civis? :D I expect there is any problem in use them :blush:

Feel free to use any of them to base your flags off of. (and if you want anymore, just ask ;))

Rufus T. Firefly
Nov 26, 2005, 05:53 AM
@Rufus T. Firefly: Good option for a new flag! Maybe I can create a alternative flag for Abyssinians or change it if people want ;) :) Thanks!

If you want good sources, take a look to flagspot.net

Ankenaton
Nov 30, 2005, 10:25 PM
Thanks CivArmy! Nothing pleases me more than playing as Khemet (Egypt), Kush (Nubia), Abyssinia, or Carthage in the Civ games. Other than Khemet the other Civs usually are not included until one of you enterprising modders adds it. I came across your work in Civ III when I was surfing through CivFanatics (I am usually found in the TAM forum) and I was very impressed with the breadth and scope of your work.:goodjob:

CivArmy s. 1994
Dec 01, 2005, 02:41 PM
Thanks CivArmy! Nothing pleases me more than playing as Khemet (Egypt), Kush (Nubia), Abyssinia, or Carthage in the Civ games. Other than Khemet the other Civs usually are not included until one of you enterprising modders adds it. I came across your work in Civ III when I was surfing through CivFanatics (I am usually found in the TAM forum) and I was very impressed with the breadth and scope of your work.:goodjob:

thanks for enjoying... and u posted cool civis to be done :goodjob: My pleasure to do that in the future and also make a scenario with all them :)

Ankenaton
Dec 02, 2005, 09:58 PM
Can't Wait!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Thanks!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Jecrell
Dec 03, 2005, 12:44 AM
I'm not too fond of the way the shirt looks CivArmy. Would you like to fix him up a little when you're done with scipio?

Here's two pictures I've found.
http://www.antoranz.net/CURIOSA/ZBIOR4/C0404/18-QZD00042-1_Menelik.jpg
http://www.macalester.edu/courses/geog61/kshively/images/menelik.gif

CivArmy s. 1994
Dec 03, 2005, 10:58 AM
Jecrell, I'll check that ;) Thanks :)

Klockansju
Dec 06, 2005, 03:41 AM
Ethiopia is awesome. They were, like, never conquered. Can't wait to see the animated leaderhead.

Actually they were conquered by the italians during WWII for about 10 years but nonetheless, Haile Selassie would be awesome :p

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9026/hailpho14fv.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5629/hselassi1uh.jpg

Heres some pics if you are interested .

CivArmy s. 1994
Dec 06, 2005, 02:35 PM
another option would be a famous Ethiopian Empress of the ancient times, I can't remember hers name...

Klockansju
Dec 06, 2005, 02:48 PM
another option would be a famous Ethiopian Empress of the ancient times, I can't remember hers name...

That would be nice too, although I prefer Haile Selassie ;)

EDIT: I tried to play the abyssinians but when I played, I couldnt see any flag.
Maybe its just me that has put it in the wrong directory...

SoCalian
Dec 06, 2005, 03:55 PM
Actually they were conquered by the italians during WWII for about 10 years but nonetheless, Haile Selassie would be awesome :pActually it was only for about 2 weeks in 1933, Mussolini was a horible military leader. I did a scool project on him sophomre year, and this was a nice chunk of it.

Klockansju
Dec 07, 2005, 12:08 AM
Actually it was only for about 2 weeks in 1933, Mussolini was a horible military leader. I did a scool project on him sophomre year, and this was a nice chunk of it.

But still, they were conquered ;)

ChaoticWanderer
Dec 09, 2005, 02:26 AM
great creation but the abyssian UU should be javilineer not archer abyssians are known for their javalin i believe their was a quote of an asian from ancient muslim lands that states he threw his javilin like a abyssian or soemthing.

SoCalian
Dec 09, 2005, 02:51 AM
Ancient asian muslim lands? does that not strike anyone else as odd?

@Klockansju: what ever, two weeks doesn't really count. I mean in a history several milena long, you can hardly call a problematic two weeks, a full scale ocupation. Italy never really controled the county, so it doesn't count as a conquest. Besides we need at least one nation in the world that has never been conqured, if not for coolness sake.

Klockansju
Dec 09, 2005, 05:58 AM
Hehe, guess you have a point there :p

ChaoticWanderer
Dec 12, 2005, 10:15 AM
well the middle east is asia LOL should i hve said middle eatrn ancient muslim lands?

Depravo
Dec 12, 2005, 10:37 AM
No, Italy conquered the whole country in a large-scale campaign in 1935-6 and held that together with their existing colonies in Eritrea and Somaliland as 'Africa Orientale Italiano' to 1941 when it was occupied by the Commonwealth. Five years, then.

Cool mod, I might use it after the game gets stabilised.

ChaoticWanderer
Dec 13, 2005, 07:47 AM
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/561277

this link will give a bit mroe detsil on the abyssian army it seems the javilneers were actually a mounted unit

Garifuna
Jan 16, 2006, 03:15 PM
Klockansju, I am a professor of Afroasiatic history at a university in New York. I have to admit that your desire to consider Ethiopia as a conquered nation despite the fact that it is commonly accepted amongst historians as the one African nation that was not, forces one to question the source of your eagerness.

It is true, that the Italian military did occupy Ethiopia for a very brief period but it did not conquer Ethiopia.

The key word is occupy. To occupy a nation requires little more than a victory at a key battle. However, to "conquer" a nation requires more than victory at a battle, but victory over the war. It is victory in war that allows the conquerors to have full control of the conquered nation's political system--it is for this reason that in CIV4 when you conquer a city the game requires a number of turns before the city is considered under your control, until then it remains in a rebel state.

It is this state of "occupation" that the Italians had for such a short period in Ethiopia, yet they never maintained ANY control of the government. For goodness sake, they did not even remove the King.

It is for all these reasons that the United Nations NEVER proclaimed Ethiopia as a colonized nation (instead recognizing its occcupation as a product of a battle and NOT the war), nor do any historical texts on the account refer to Ethiopia as being conquered, so why should you when it is evident that it was a battle and not the war that ? Do yourself a favor my dear friend and only speak on things that you know of.

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 16, 2006, 03:53 PM
... I am a professor of Afroasiatic history...

I can't lost this opportunity :) : please, tell me some empires of Africa that u think were the most important to the continent. I could produce some civis to these empires and maybe produce a mod just using African civilizations in the future. If u want post the leader names, unique units suggestions, links for referece, that's would be great too :D Please, do that if u want and have time, it'd be useful to all the civilization creators since its hard find stuff about the old African Empires.


...Do yourself a favor my dear friend and only speak on things that you know of.

I think this kind of commentary isn't really necessary ;)

Ankenaton
Jan 16, 2006, 11:09 PM
Klockansju, I am a professor of Afroasiatic history at a university in New York. I have to admit that your desire to consider Ethiopia as a conquered nation despite the fact that it is commonly accepted amongst historians as the one African nation that was not, forces one to question the source of your eagerness.

It is true, that the Italian military did occupy Ethiopia for a very brief period but it did not conquer Ethiopia.

The key word is occupy. To occupy a nation requires little more than a victory at a key battle. However, to "conquer" a nation requires more than victory at a battle, but victory over the war. It is victory in war that allows the conquerors to have full control of the conquered nation's political system--it is for this reason that in CIV4 when you conquer a city the game requires a number of turns before the city is considered under your control, until then it remains in a rebel state.

It is this state of "occupation" that the Italians had for such a short period in Ethiopia, yet they never maintained ANY control of the government. For goodness sake, they did not even remove the King.

It is for all these reasons that the United Nations NEVER proclaimed Ethiopia as a colonized nation (instead recognizing its occcupation as a product of a battle and NOT the war), nor do any historical texts on the account refer to Ethiopia as being conquered, so why should you when it is evident that it was a battle and not the war that ? Do yourself a favor my dear friend and only speak on things that you know of.
Concise and to the point. I would be glad to submit some suggestions.

TribeTime26
Feb 02, 2006, 09:01 PM
Cool, but is there any more interesting names you could call it than "Ethiopian Archer"?

TrueAce
Feb 21, 2006, 08:56 PM
when i have the time, i will add this to my mod.

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 04, 2006, 08:39 PM
Cool, but is there any more interesting names you could call it than "Ethiopian Archer"?


I'm looking for a better name too, a simple idea would be write Ethiopian Archer using the local linguage :)

fosman
Mar 12, 2006, 11:31 AM
Here's a dummy quastion! Where do I place this file? :blush:

CivArmy s. 1994
Mar 12, 2006, 11:52 AM
Here's a dummy quastion! Where do I place this file? :blush:


- Move the created folder into c:/.../Civilization4/Mods
- Start the game
- Go to "Advanced Mod"
- Now go to "Load a Mod"
- Load the mod that u want

good game! :)

BlackGas
Jan 27, 2007, 01:37 AM
A good name for their spearmen would be 'sarwe' (pl. sarawit).

And I would not use the modern flag. Perhaps not even the imperial one, in keeping with the whole 'symbol' feel of civ 4 (i.e. teutonic cross for germany, etc.)

For the symbol, i'd use just the lion.

For your model, the face is good, but the clothing is very strange.
For his hat, make it beige colored (lion fur!), ideally with a headband. And for his outfit, make it long sleeved, and/or give him depicted below. If not, at least make his shirt plain white, which is how habeshas have dressed for centuries.

http://www.warflag.com/shadow/uniforms/ital9.jpg

Aranor
Jan 27, 2007, 03:42 AM
A good name for their spearmen would be 'sarwe' (pl. sarawit).

And I would not use the modern flag. Perhaps not even the imperial one, in keeping with the whole 'symbol' feel of civ 4 (i.e. teutonic cross for germany, etc.)

For the symbol, i'd use just the lion.

For your model, the face is good, but the clothing is very strange.
For his hat, make it beige colored (lion fur!), ideally with a headband. And for his outfit, make it long sleeved, and/or give him depicted below. If not, at least make his shirt plain white, which is how habeshas have dressed for centuries.

http://www.warflag.com/shadow/uniforms/ital9.jpg



If I were you Id look at when this was posted. I dont think civ army is around any more to update this civ or any of his others.

Ankenaton
Jan 28, 2007, 12:40 AM
If CivArmy is still active the plural of Sarwe should be Sarwen. Also each Sarwen was equivalent to a regiment (1000-1200 men) with the same loyalty to the individual Sarwe that a Roman Legionaire would have to his particular legion.

BlackGas
Feb 27, 2007, 02:11 AM
what language would "sarwen" be in? That's not amharic or tigrinya.

Civ4Rocks
Feb 27, 2007, 02:50 AM
Nice Civ!! I love new civs. :) It the game so much more interesting to have many different people to play as or against. Thanks. :goodjob:

Ankenaton
Aug 11, 2007, 12:42 PM
what language would "sarwen" be in? That's not amharic or tigrinya.

My apologies I have been long away from this portion of the game. I have come across the spelling sarwen in English references regarding sarwe. Of course your familiarity with the languages of the region trumps mine. We should definitely go with the spellings as you suggested. :D

LionCrown
Dec 02, 2009, 09:37 AM
But still, they were conquered ;)

Factually they were never conqured only occupied for about 5 years. There is a difference. The Italians never ruled Ithiopia. And no one ever will.


RastafarI lives

mechaerik
Dec 02, 2009, 06:14 PM
Necro!
You're arguing with a guy that made a post almost 4 years ago. And who hasn't been around for two. While someone else already made that point in the original argument.

WolfHound22
Dec 22, 2009, 09:45 PM
Indeed, the very concept of an Abyssinian civ is rather pointless now tha we have Zara Yaqob and Ethiopia in BTS.