Since we're all supposed to work together, it might be helpful to know each other a bit. The Citizen Registry is a great thing for that. But since this registry is not part of the forum software system, it might be complicated to find someone in it. I suggest we make it manditory for registered citizens to carry a link to their registration in their sigantures, so other people can find it easily.

As an example, see my sig.

This poll is informational and non-public.

I would refuse to do so, and do so through the use of my freedom of speech.

-- Ravensfire

This is irrelivent and pointless. I too would refuse to do it. My sig has enough **** in it.

i agree i am in favor of registration, you need to be a citizen but ID cards , geez

I must agree with the others here that such a signature post should not be mandatory; however, I will try to be a bit less harsh than some of the anarchists. :lol:

Why are we taking such a Patrick Henry stance on such an innocent proposal? What are we going to hear next: "From my cold, dead hands?" :confused: Let's give Blkbird a break on his first foray into this brave new world of politics; I am sure he didn't mean anything by it.

I, for one, think that this is a great idea for citizens to utilize voluntarily, especially with all the new faces around here. It may even give citizens the will to update their registry posts on a regular basis, something that has never been accomplished during 7 Civ3 DemoGames.

In the future, Blkbird, it may be best to lead with a 24 hour discussion before offering your work to the wolves at the polls. ;) But this was a commendable first effort.

Respectfully,

Donovan Zoi

In the future, Blkbird, it may be best to lead with a 24 hour discussion before offering your work to the wolves at the polls. ;) But this was a commendable first effort.

Thanks for padding me on the back (no sarcasm here, I assure), but as a moderator of certain forums, I'm used to *much* more hostile posts, and I can deal with them just fine. :)

As of the 24h-ahead discussion, where should it be posted? Right here in this sub-forum?

Thanks for padding me on the back (no sarcasm here, I assure), but as a moderator of certain forums, I'm used to *much* more hostile posts, and I can deal with them just fine. :)

As of the 24h-ahead discussion, where should it be posted? Right here in this sub-forum?

Actually, you would use the Citizens sub-forum to begin discussion. A topic will usually stay active for 24 to 72 hours, after which you can post a poll based on all possible options. Check out the forum; there about 6-10 discussions going on right now.

As for my post, it was meant more as an admonishment of those that should know better. After reading some more of your posts, it's quite obvious that you can hold your own here. :)

I dont beleve it should be neccisary for us citizens to place in links to our registered post. Most of us are closing to the 5 line limit on our signatures anyway.

Abstain, Private Poll

We can't force people to do it, I usually do it however

I say no. People have a limit on the size of their sig... and most people would rather fill that space with other stuff than that.

As for my post, it was meant more as an admonishment of those that should know better. After reading some more of your posts, it's quite obvious that you can hold your own here. :)

:blush:

-- Ravensfire

ID cards? you do know this is a Democracy Game?

btw, please people, make the polls public!

ID cards? you do know this is a Democracy Game?

btw, please people, make the polls public!

Nothing about ID cards is un-democratic - although I know some people, like the British and the American, tend to have a different view.

As of polls being public or non-public, I think I've failed to understand the implications so far. Does public poll mean everyone can see how every other one has voted, or just the total result? Until now I thought the former were the case, but that sounds extremely un-democratic to me, and I haven't found out where to see the votes, either.

Nothing about ID cards is un-democratic - although I know some people, like the British and the American, tend to have a different view.

As of polls being public or non-public, I think I've failed to understand the implications so far. Does public poll mean everyone can see how every other one has voted, or just the total result? Until now I thought the former were the case, but that sounds extremely un-democratic to me, and I haven't found out where to see the votes, either.

Usually, if a poll involves a specific person, such as an election poll, an appointment confirmation poll or a trial/sentance poll, that poll should be private.

All other polls should be public.

-- Ravensfire

Usually, if a poll involves a specific person, such as an election poll, an appointment confirmation poll or a trial/sentance poll, that poll should be private.

All other polls should be public.

Why do you quote my text if you aren't refering to any of its content? Did you even read the text? Because I didn't want to know *when* a poll should be public, I wanted to know what a public poll *is* at all.

Why do you quote my text if you aren't refering to any of its content? Did you even read the text? Because I didn't want to know *when* a poll should be public, I wanted to know what a public poll *is* at all.

Sorry - I misread your question.

A public poll (done by checking a box when creating the poll) means the names of those that voted in the poll can be made visible by clicking on the poll results.

That should clarify it.

-- Ravensfire

A public poll (done by checking a box when creating the poll) means the names of those that voted in the poll can be made visible by clicking on the poll results.

Thank you, I found out how to see the names, finally.

Now, please can somebody tell me what is democratic about open polls? Aren't secret voting, known as the "ballot", one of the most important things of democracy?

Thank you, I found out how to see the names, finally.

Now, please can somebody tell me what is democratic about open polls? Aren't secret voting, known as the "ballot", one of the most important things of democracy?

From what I understand it is usually to make sure that only citizens of the Demogame vote, to keep interlopers out.

-the Wolf

Thank you, I found out how to see the names, finally.

Now, please can somebody tell me what is democratic about open polls? Aren't secret voting, known as the "ballot", one of the most important things of democracy?

The reason for open polls is that we, the participants, are generally considered to all be representatives of government rather than private citizens. Therefore it makes sense to publicize the voting records of our representatives, so that such material may be used in debate and in electoral campaigning if necessary.

By our very involvement in this game, most of us will likely have aspirations much higher than being a lifetime congressman. For this reason, it is also important that the people have access to our voting records so that they can make the most informed choice possible.

Private voting is reserved where it really counts: during the election of individuals.

The reason for open polls is that we, the participants, are generally considered to all be representatives of government rather than private citizens. Therefore it makes sense to publicize the voting records of our representatives, so that such material may be used in debate and in electoral campaigning if necessary.

OK, this makes sense to me.

I think *mandatory* anything is a stretch, but it would be fairly helpful and there is no harm in an official encouragement.

Screw the System! *jumps out 45th floor window and then pulls parachute*

I really couldn't care less. If this was about having my home address and bank account tied to a vote then I might care. But, meh...