View Full Version : Czech Nation for Civ IV


BORNAparte
Nov 26, 2005, 10:20 AM
Leaders:
Charles IV. (Czech king /1346 – 1378/, Holy Roman Emperor); Philosophical, Creative; favourite Civic - Hereditary Rule;
Tomas Garrigue Masaryk (the first president of independent Czechoslovakia /1918-1935/); Financial, Industrious; favourite Civic - Free Religion;
Starting Technologies:
Mining
Agriculture
Unique Unit:
Hussite (replaces Maceman, same as Maceman, but: don't requires any resources /Maceman requires Iron or Copper/, + defense bonus versus Knight 15% )

Capital:
Prague (Praha)
Cities:
Brno
Ostrava
Plzen
Olomouc
Liberec
Hradec Kralove
Ceske Budejovice
Usti nad Labem
Pardubice
Havirov
Zlin
Kladno
Most
Karvina
Frydek-Mistek
Opava
...
(63 cities)

Versions of this mod:

new! 1.10.61 - DOWNLOAD (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Czechs11061.zip)
- same as version 1.10.52, but made for game version 1.61, fully compatible only with game version 1.61

new! 1.10.52 - DOWNLOAD (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Czechs11052.zip)
- fully functional (hopefully), new graphics, better balanced UU, made for game version 1.52, compatible with game versions 1.00, 1.09, 1.52, better support of other languages

1.00 - DOWNLOAD (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/Czechs.zip) + texture of Hussite (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112790&d=1137943488) (image) (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/HUSSITEandMACEMAN.jpg)
- early version, old bug graphics, some bugs, over strong UU, made for game version 1.00, compatible with game versions 1.00, 1.09, 1.52

Screenshots
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/3186/screen25sm.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen25sm.jpg)http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/84/screen33on.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen33on.jpg)http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/3876/screen42hl.th.jpg (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen42hl.jpg)

Anima Croatorum
Nov 26, 2005, 10:36 AM
Borna, use http://www.filegone.com for uploads. You can upload files up to 10Mb, more than enough for your mod.

Its easier to manage when its one file and you just need to unzip it into the mods folder.

Jecrell
Nov 26, 2005, 10:39 AM
Um, no.
Uploead here.

http://www.civfanatics.net/upload.html :)

Anima Croatorum
Nov 26, 2005, 10:42 AM
Cool, I thought 500kb was the forum limit.

BORNAparte
Nov 26, 2005, 10:45 AM
Thanks for tips.

Jurassic
Nov 26, 2005, 12:18 PM
It certainly looks great, I'm pretty sure which nation I'll choose next time I play Civ4. Keep up the good work!

Drivebymaster
Nov 26, 2005, 01:15 PM
Cool, I thought 500kb was the forum limit.

of course you did you n00b...lol

There is a section at the very bottom of your screen that says "Forum Upload" you upload your unit files there, scenarios...but if you want to upload your mod that is bigger than 5MB you have to talk to Thunderfall so he can set you up with a different upload section.

overall you'll learn this as you come here more often.



The leader head is allright...not the best but ya....If you want to make good leader heads your gonna need to know how to use 3DS Max...

Sadistik
Nov 26, 2005, 03:34 PM
Bah! How can you have the Czechs without OTTOKAR?

He conquered Austria and establised a CZECH PORT on the ADRIATIC!

BORNAparte
Nov 26, 2005, 03:52 PM
Bah! How can you have the Czechs without OTTOKAR?

He conquered Austria and establised a CZECH PORT on the ADRIATIC!

You mean Otakar II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otakar_II_of_Bohemia)? It's good idea, maybe I'll add him (as strong military leader mainly). He was one of the best czech kings.
I think about addition John Zizka of Trocnov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zizka) - he wasn't czech ruler but Hussite leader, one of the best army-leaders of the World, he was never beaten.

Sadistik
Nov 26, 2005, 03:54 PM
You mean Otakar II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otakar_II_of_Bohemia)? It's good idea, maybe I'll add him (as strong military leader mainly). He was one of the best czech kings.
I think about addition John Zizka of Trocnov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zizka) - he wasn't czech ruler but Hussite leader, one of the best army-leaders of the World, he was never beaten.
Yeah. Ottokar I was inconsequencial in comparison. I was referring to the second.

BORNAparte
Nov 26, 2005, 04:10 PM
Czechs call him "king iron and golden". He was the mightiest man of that time maybe.

BORNAparte
Nov 27, 2005, 01:56 PM
Can someone do new textures of Czech unique unit Hussite please? I've no time now and it will be better if Hussite have his own graphic (now he use textures of Maceman).

Gladi
Dec 01, 2005, 02:49 PM
Ahoj
Dobrá práce:goodjob:
Good work :goodjob:

REDY
Dec 02, 2005, 10:15 AM
I must clap my hands...its looks very good. When I will have Civ IV I will try it. I made it for Civ III. After this year maturity exam I will look to make some scenarios, now I am busy but its great that someone other public it for Civ IV.:-)

BORNAparte
Dec 02, 2005, 11:27 AM
Thanks. I work on civilopedia entries and Hussite graphic now - it'll be in the next version. If you want to help with something, you can.
REDY: I've got your Cz nation for Civ III and there is only one mistake - it's very difficult to download it.

Tunch Khan
Dec 02, 2005, 11:49 AM
Those are seriously good Leaderhead graphics. Are they static? did you do them yourself? Which programs?

BORNAparte
Dec 02, 2005, 12:32 PM
Those are seriously good Leaderhead graphics. Are they static? did you do them yourself? Which programs?
They're static and because my art of PC graphic isn't quite good, they are photos from one czech Wax Museum (http://www.waxmuseumprague.cz/eng/index.html).

REDY
Dec 02, 2005, 03:19 PM
Yeah, filefront is sometimes pretty slow and file is huge because 3d animated leaderhead...I already said that I havent Civ IV so help may be difficult where I cant see result of my changes and dont know nothing about Civ4 customization structure, so I must decline your generous offer:( Appetite for it is great, but my graduation is first...I see that you are good maker even you are orientated in resources, so I havent concern for this work. :)

jenadne
Dec 14, 2005, 09:52 AM
diky ti moc

Rshu
Dec 31, 2005, 07:23 PM
Leaders:
Unique Unit:
Hussite (replaces Maceman, same as Maceman, but: costs 60 /Maceman 70/, don't requieres any resources /Maceman requieres Iron or Copper/, bonus versus Melee 40% and Mounted 50% /Maceman vs. Melee 50%/)
-in this version use textures of Maceman, if you want you can change
Ah, the Hussites. My favorite Protestant rebels. I think that they should get 50% defense from infantry because they hid in wagons while bombarding their enemies with crossbows, muskets, and cannons. I have a few pictures of the shield if anybody needs them. http://www.allempires.com/articles/hussite/infantry.jpg and http://www.allempires.com/articles/hussite/wagon_c.jpg

Orm
Jan 06, 2006, 05:21 AM
Good work...
I offer some help with translation/description.

Couple of comments:
- I think that combo philosophical/industrial fits better for TGM.
- Charles IV. is really perfect :)
- Is it possible to paint the "red chalice" on the armor of hussites? (sry if the question is stupid- I'm a newbie in civ mods...)

- Have you thought about creation of an additional "dark age" version of Czechs with following leaders?
Premysl Otakar (Ottokar) II. - as already mentioned above
aggressive/financial?

Samo (Saamo, Samuel), the Merchant - approx. 600?-650? AD, the first documented Czech (or, more generally, middle-european Slavs) leader
? (something with military)/financial
see for example: (CZECH ONLY, sorry):
http://www.libri.cz/databaze/kdo18/list.php?od=s&start=1&count=20
http://jhspecial.webpark.cz/samo.htm

EDIT:
Heh, I forgot wikipedia :blush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samo

additional candidate: Saint Wenceslas

UU would be modified axemen or swordsmen with some bonuses against mounted...

BORNAparte
Jan 12, 2006, 12:00 PM
Ah, the Hussites. My favorite Protestant rebels. I think that they should get 50% defense from infantry because they hid in wagons while bombarding their enemies with crossbows, muskets, and cannons. I have a few pictures of the shield if anybody needs them. http://www.allempires.com/articles/hussite/infantry.jpg and http://www.allempires.com/articles/hussite/wagon_c.jpg

Yes, it is true, but there is one problem - they didn´t defend only they attacked too and captured many towns. They are very cheap in game and you don´t need any resources because they were folk warriors and made their weapons themselves from agricultural implements. It would be over strong unit if we use every aspect of Hussites. Maybe I´ll add some small defensive bonuses and decrease general bonuses in the next version.

Good work...
I offer some help with translation/description.

Couple of comments:
- I think that combo philosophical/industrial fits better for TGM.
- Charles IV. is really perfect
- Is it possible to paint the "red chalice" on the armor of hussites? (sry if the question is stupid- I'm a newbie in civ mods...)

- Have you thought about creation of an additional "dark age" version of Czechs with following leaders?
Premysl Otakar (Ottokar) II. - as already mentioned above
aggressive/financial?

Samo (Saamo, Samuel), the Merchant - approx. 600?-650? AD, the first documented Czech (or, more generally, middle-european Slavs) leader
? (something with military)/financial

additional candidate: Saint Wenceslas

Thanks for your offer, I don´t have enought time (I´m student and we write many tests now) and I didn´t play Civ for about month :cry: . Maybe I´ll start to work on the next version of Czechs in a week or two.

About your comments:
- Yes, philosophical/industrious is better for Masaryk personally but for Czechoslovakia at the time of his rule there is no better traits than industrious/financial I think.
- Red chalice on the armor of hussites is possible - it´s about textures only (and my time:D ).
- I´ve thought about:
Premysl Otakar II. - as Expansive/Financial
John Zizka of Trocnov - as Aggressive/Spiritual
Klement Gottwald - as Aggressive?/Industrious
I think Samo was leader of Slavs on our territory maybe but he could be also leader of non-Slavs in Austria. About st. Wenceslas - his brother Boleslav was much more important for Czech state, I think, Wenceslas is important only because he is saint and patron of Czechs but he can be added too.

Orm
Jan 13, 2006, 09:52 AM
Hi

about additional leaders...
Premysl Otakar II. - as Expansive/Financial - perfect
John Zizka of Trocnov - as Aggressive/Spiritual - absolutely perfect :goodjob:

Klement Gottwald - as Aggressive?/Industrious - do you really plan to create such a creature? :eek:

Samo, Venceslas and others - It would be probably better not to overload it - 4 leaders is more than enough and I agree that Samo is very debatable...

... and I'd like to ask some "none-czechs" - does anyone other (or, at least, anyone ;) ) appear in your mind if someone says: "Historical Czech leader"?


about hussites...
Looking forward to red chalices :)

Good luck in the tests-time

Rshu
Jan 14, 2006, 10:25 AM
Yes, it is true, but there is one problem - they didn´t defend only they attacked too and captured many towns. They are very cheap in game and you don´t need any resources because they were folk warriors and made their weapons themselves from agricultural implements. It would be over strong unit if we use every aspect of Hussites. Maybe I´ll add some small defensive bonuses and decrease general bonuses in the next version.

I agree with the fact that they should not be a combined unit. However, it would be a good idea to add small defense bonuses.

Dicorion
Jan 18, 2006, 03:06 AM
I think maybe philosophical trait from Klement "Kléma" Gottwald would fit better :lol: but only if you REALLY think about it :vomit:

And yes The Hussite unit is the best choise and your stats describe them well :goodjob:. I do not know if it is possible, but upgrade them to musketman can be cool and not so far from reality :mischief:

Thanks and live in interisting times :p

BORNAparte
Jan 22, 2006, 09:27 AM
I've retextured Hussite. You can download it now. Add-on only, original Czech nation (or Superciv with Czech nation - version 1.04 and higher) is required! If you play with low details red chalice can be blurred. Post your suggestions please.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/HUSSITEandMACEMAN.jpg

Rshu
Jan 22, 2006, 06:35 PM
Nice, good addition of the chalice.

Hrus
Jan 23, 2006, 09:37 AM
Hi, thank you for our nation. :cool:
I have to say that Hussites saved my life in my first game I started 2 days ago (noob I am :)), when Russians declared war on me and attacked with large army of elephant riders/swordsman. :goodjob:

Though I would like to have a small improvement in City names. Prague -> Praha. (I guess I will take a look if it can be edited easily somewhere in the mod files. Maybe I can even add czech national-specific characters, which I would like to have...)

And I regret that I didn't realize that the new graphic improvement was made. Now all my Hussites are already upgraded to Infantry. :(

Tak ještě jednou - díky.

mezcal
Feb 10, 2006, 08:11 AM
I think that Otakar I was more important for Czech nations then Otakar II but Otakar II is more famous. Otakar II was the important king of the Austria.

BORNAparte
Feb 12, 2006, 03:28 PM
mezcal: I think Premysl Ottokar I. was very powerful and important for Czechs (he was a good diplomat and the first really hereditary king of Bohemia) but his grandson Premysl Ottokar II. was more important.
Hrus: In czech version (this mod will be contained in czech translation by Sushi) will be Praha but for english version is Prague better.

Now I'm working on the new version that contain in addition Premysl Ottokar II., John Zizka of Trocnov and Klement Gottwald. About Gottwald: I'm not communist but I think he was significant for Czech history - significant not useful. We can't be silent about czech communistic epoch and communistic crimes.

Magma
Feb 21, 2006, 01:35 PM
That king scares me.. :(

REDY
Feb 24, 2006, 09:10 AM
mezcal: John Zizka of Trocnov and Klement Gottwald. About Gottwald: I'm not communist but I think he was significant for Czech history - significant not useful. We can't be silent about czech communistic epoch and communistic crimes.

Hm If you want evil communist leader, well. But I dont see arguments good. Gottwald didnt make nothing good. In his era we decreased in culture, lost diplomatical independence and lost areas to Soviet Union. Even he wasnt in contact with people and was often drunken. He had much charisma before he catched office, but when he started leading, people started hate him. General Ludvík Svoboda had also charisma and was brave or Antonín Zapotocký was popular when he got presidents office after Klement. Novotný was typical communist without charisma, but in his era was more liberty and he was in his office longest, and to more, he liked Czechs more than Slovaks, so he was unique...
But primarily, I think that in the world most famous Czech leader in modern era is Václav Havel and secondary, he was Czech President, not only Czechoslovak.

Jan Zizka z Trocnova was more military leader, but his portrait may be nice;-)

vian
Mar 01, 2006, 05:17 AM
BORNAparte, please don't add Gottwald... yes, we can't be silent about our communist history but the leaders should be not only significant persons as you write but also persons who did something for developing of their countries... REDY is right, Gottwald really wasn't such leader...

Rshu
Mar 03, 2006, 03:27 PM
Wow, Zizka as a leader. Sounds pretty good.

bdog1001
Mar 04, 2006, 03:04 PM
Alexander Dubček insteed of Gottwald

Organized and Philosophical Favors Free Speech or should he be saved for a Slovak mod ?

BORNAparte
May 26, 2006, 05:39 PM
New version have been released. Better graphics, bugs repaired. Original leaders only, others will be added later.

hrochland
Nov 10, 2006, 02:50 AM
Very Good work. I expect next by next version :) with Prague Castle maybe? ;)

smartus
Apr 30, 2007, 06:15 AM
I didn't try this new Civ, however I am Czech, so I'd like to post few comments:

Hussites were NOT just recruited farmers and villagers. The core of the hussite army was made of trained professionals and veterans (possibly trained recruits). They needed copper or iron to, you can't beat a knight without some heavy metal! :)

I think the main advantage of Hussites was their tactics and discipline. I agree with Rshu, the Hussite unit consisted of few footmen, crossbowmen or riflemen (Hussites were one of the first armies incorporating gunpowder!) AND the battle wagons. I think that defensive bonuses give a better picture of Hussite soldiers. If it is possible, I would change one footman to crossbowman in the 3-man unit in Civ and add a wagon. The bonuses should look like this: +25% when defending outside Forest, free Drill I promotion, and the usual Maceman bonuses.

I don't think it is important to add more leaders to Czech Civ. Charles IV and TGM are pretty good choice. However I would consider Charles IV to be Philosophical + Industrious or Creative + Industrious. He was a great builder (Prague Castle Area, Karlstejn, Charles bridge, New Quarter, St.Vitus Cathedral, The University and much more were founder during his reign). If you compare Charles IV. to Rudolf II., Rudolf was much more like Philosophical and Creative (he sposored many Great "Scientists" and artists).

czekFREE
Aug 22, 2008, 03:37 PM
Totaly agree with REDY, Gotwald was a comunist leader and shouldn´t be the representative of our nation - I would replace him with V. Havel.... But on the other side - great job for including Czech nation to Civ IV (skvělá práce :-)

Wyz_sub10
Aug 22, 2008, 03:50 PM
Totaly agree with REDY, Gotwald was a comunist leader and shouldn´t be the representative of our nation - I would replace him with V. Havel.... But on the other side - great job for including Czech nation to Civ IV (skvělá práce :-)

REDY's comments are 2 years old. :)

There is a Czech-Slovak Empire in CIV Gold you may want to check out. Maseryk is the leader.

hrochland
Oct 02, 2008, 02:48 AM
REDY's comments are 2 years old but actual, I think

As regards Czech-Slovak Empire in CIV Gold, I´m pleased we have Czech-Slovak Empire for civ4 but it want new models for unit and building, I think.

I don´t know why is here TV tower but if is already here, you may add my Žižkov TV tover model in contrast to tower CIV4 model for all other civs :)

enjay
Oct 08, 2009, 06:49 AM
Bude fungovat i v BTS ???

Does it work in BTS ???

Thx

hrochland
Oct 25, 2009, 03:14 PM
You can ask here: if you czech or slovak. If not can post PM to BORNAparte

here (http://civilizace.kvasha.net/forum/index.php
)