View Full Version : new civilization: Poland


Martinus
Nov 27, 2005, 05:22 AM
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7285/logocivorgplteam3te.gif
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5742/polishleaders21pq.gif

Mod Features

Adds the Polish civilization
Adds Casimir and John III Sobieski as the leader of the Polish civilization (LeaderHeads and buttons for Civilopedia)
Includes Unique Unit - Heavy Hussar (and button for Civilopedia)
Includes new flag and button for Civilopedia
Includes Civilopedia entries for Casimir, John III Sobieski, Heavy Hussar, and Poland
Orginal Polish sound for units
Orginal music for leaders
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Music clips disclaimer:
Music By: InkwizytoR on the motives of:
Bogurodzica (Casimir) and F. Chopin Etude C-dur (Sobieski).
Used Intruments:Claymore Set,NaturalStudio.
Used Software:ModPlug Tracker 1.16, Audacity.
All Rights Reserved, Niepołomice 2006
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Download (0.85)
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Pol&type=Civ4&section=Mody (Polskie Imperium - Kliknij)
or
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods (Polish Empire - Click)



Polish Civilization
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/9194/polishflag4bh.gifhttp://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4966/buttonpoland6yf.gif
Starting Techs
- Agriculture
- Hunting

Leaders
Casimir
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9964/buttoncasimir3yk.gif
- Industrious
- Organized
- Favors Hereditary Rule Civic
John III Sobieski
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7978/buttonsobieski3jm.gif
- Aggressive
- Expansive
- Favors Representation Civic

Unique Unit
Heavy Hussar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4504/buttonheavyhussar4vq.gif
- Strenght: 10
- Movement: 2
- Cost: 90 hammers
- Replace: Knight
- 1 First Strike
- Immune to First Strikes
- Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
- +50% vs. Melee Units

Screenshots:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/340/poland6ed.th.gif (http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=poland6ed.gif)http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/239/game18gz.th.gif (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=game18gz.gif)http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2926/game25fa.th.gif (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=game25fa.gif)


Special thanks to:
- Martinus for the first versions of the mod, and ideas
- LoD for the help, ideas and the patronage
- Jecrell for making the leaderhead files
- Radio Fabryka http://www.radiotczew.pl/ (particularly for Patryk) and jobabr - Polish sound for units
- newMDKiller for the flag file and buttons (civilization, Hussar)
- Berenika Stefańska for the Civilopedia Entries (Poland, Hussar)
- Kodzi for the music
- other people who helped with their ideas

NOTICE: The entries for the two leaders are largely based on the corresponding Wikipedia articles.

Installation

To install the module:
1)Unzip the Poland directory into the Mods folder of your game installation.
2)Start the game
3)Select ADVANCED
4)Select LOAD A MOD
5)Choose Poland
6)Press OK
7)The game should reload. After that, the name of the mod ("Poland") should be visible in the upper right hand corner of the title screen.

The author of the "Polish Empire.." logo and layout* is newMDKiller.

*(based on Jecrell's Carthage)

Things to do:
- replace current leaderheads with versions made by CivArmy,
- replace current leaderheads with animated leaderheads (impossible as of now),
- replace heavy hussar graphics (currently uses Knight's graphics) with own animated graphics (impossible as of now),
- include original text for Sobieski and Casimir (AI diplomacy).

Version History (since 0.81) :

0.85: added original, leader-specific music (made by Kodzi/InkwizytoR)!
0.82: added a new, better flag. Removed a bug associated with city naming.

newMDKiller
Nov 27, 2005, 06:39 AM
This flag pleases to me, perhaps only the eagle should be more centralised (now it's too high - in my modest opinion). Generally good work, but it's only the beginning. :)

Sadistik
Nov 27, 2005, 10:48 AM
Hey Marty, now that Hungary's UU is Hussars aren't you glad I suggested the name change? ;)

worpete
Nov 27, 2005, 12:03 PM
Have you considered adding Lech Walensa? He was a pretty influential leader.

Industrial and something else perhaps?

Evolic
Nov 27, 2005, 07:09 PM
i made leaderheads files for Sobieski and Casimir:
http://ds5.agh.edu.pl/~evolic/tmp/games/civ4/btn_lh_poland_kazimierz.png http://ds5.agh.edu.pl/~evolic/tmp/games/civ4/btn_lh_poland_sobieski.png

DDS files:
http://ds5.agh.edu.pl/~evolic/tmp/games/civ4/btn_lh_poland_kazimierz.dds
http://ds5.agh.edu.pl/~evolic/tmp/games/civ4/btn_lh_poland_sobieski.dds

I used their faces from some pictures, but it is very hard to create
3d version of their faces.
So if someone create very similar faces you can replace these two.

PS. i couldn't display correctly leaderfaces included in archive file.

Pooks
Nov 27, 2005, 07:31 PM
NICE.. poland belongs in the game..

It should had been in the game a long time ago.

Maybe cause i'm a croat.. i find the game very frustrating..

the game has FRANCE, GERMANY, ENGLAND, SPAIN,

but when it comes to the SLAVS it only has the RUSSIANS.. u can kinda Pretend the Mongols are slavic sorta, cause of Hungary and Finland and the invasion..

but it just doesn't fly..
one group is just way overpresented to the point of staleness.. the WEST.. to me, it gets lame... france, germany, england, spain.. those guys practically all live in the same area of the world..

Poland should had been in the original game.. and russian.. and maybe some other slav group too.. that that would had been cool.

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 01:07 AM
Hey Marty, now that Hungary's UU is Hussars aren't you glad I suggested the name change? ;)
I will probably rename them to Winged Hussar then. The problem with using "Husaria" for the unit is that "Husaria" simply means a "collection of hussars" in Polish - a single member of such unit is still called "Hussar".

Sadistik
Nov 28, 2005, 02:38 AM
I will probably rename them to Winged Hussar then. The problem with using "Husaria" for the unit is that "Husaria" simply means a "collection of hussars" in Polish - a single member of such unit is still called "Hussar".

Meh, well, in Civ 4 unlike previous Civ's, you have multiple units for every one you build. ;)

Still, Winged Hussar works. Was the name they went with for Cossacks.

onedreamer
Nov 28, 2005, 04:13 AM
hmm, doesn't it have the same stats of Conquistador ?

LoD
Nov 28, 2005, 05:43 AM
Just for the record: "hussar" means both Hungarian light cavalry and Polish heavy cavalry in contemporary English, and it's difficult to say which definition is better known.

onedreamer: cripes! Thanks for noticing this. Well, it looks like the Winged Hussar is actually weaker - seems like Martinus and I were so afraid to overbalance the unit that we actually achieved the opposite :). Martinus, how about upping the melee bonus then?

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 06:00 AM
Actually, conquistador doesn't get the first strike ability, afaik, so the 10 more shields thing is justified, imo. :)

Migalart
Nov 28, 2005, 07:33 AM
Great Job!!

I hope the rest of work regarding polish civ will be finished soon.

I have no idea how to create mod for civilization, but If you need any help with 2d graphics I could help ;)

For example I would change the flag:
http://www.nelderim.org/pliki/misc/godlo.jpg

ghost_dog
Nov 28, 2005, 08:27 AM
good, good just as i said few days ago. Now i have a reason to start again campaign:)

Here`s some photos of hussar (vel husaria):
http://www.jest.art.pl/rskrzy11.jpg

http://www.jest.art.pl/rhus010.jpg

http://husaria1.webpark.pl/gfx/atak_husaria.jpg

Maybe it will help.

And about maing game - i would make the price of hussar higher (lets say 120 hammers) and better stats - like strenght 12 because you know, these guys were really tough.

LoD
Nov 28, 2005, 08:30 AM
Martinus: oh. Well, if it doesn't, then you're right.

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 08:35 AM
ghost_dog, thanks for your post - I don't think we can edit unit graphics at this moment, though - at least until firaxis releases some sort of editor. As for stats, I would like the UU to be more or less comparable with similar UUs of other civs (e.g. Japanese samurai and Spanish conquistador). The thing I hate most about mods like this is making the UU overpowered because it is made by people who think the unit was stronger than in reality - besides, civ 4 is not a realistic historical game, but a computer game loosely based on history - therefore gameplay and balance should always trump historical realism.

ghost_dog
Nov 28, 2005, 08:45 AM
Well, if it will be helpful i can write some stuff to civlopedia or find more graphics, just write me on priv, mail or gadu-gadu;) (6622931)

Oh by the way, maybe it will sound stupid but someone could write how to install this mod :blush:

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 08:51 AM
Great. Civilopedia is what we need most right now, along with sound/music files, if we are going to customise them too. (Would be cool if someone recorded all the order commands in Polish). :)

As for installing, you need to unpack it as it is into the Mods directory. Then, when starting a game, Choose Advanced -> Load a Mod and then Poland. The game will restart and you will be able to choose Poland from playable civs (if you choose the custom game, Sobieski and Casimir will be at the bottom of the list; in simple game they will be second or first on the list).

Migalart
Nov 28, 2005, 09:03 AM
according to my information feathers wings of husaria allow them to create a specific sound that was distrupting enemy horses, thus I think that husar should have bonuses versus mounted

regarding husaria graphics, this is very nice:


http://www.young-miniatures.com/portfolio-deta/Husaria.jpg

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 09:26 AM
We actually considered the bonus vs. horses, Migalart, but apparently they were considered most effective against melee units, especially against pikemen (unlike other mounted units), hence the melee bonus. As I said, I wouldn't want to make them the most powerful unit in game. ;)

Martinus
Nov 28, 2005, 09:28 AM
ghost_dog, and other people who can speak Polish - please also check out the thread here: http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=4592&page=0#98244

civ.org.pl guys already offered some stuff for the mod (like most civilopedia write-ups) from the Civ3 Polish mod, so it seems like we have most of the stuff ready. Also it seems there is going to be a very pretty model of hussar, which is viewable in one of the last posts. :)

ghost_dog
Nov 28, 2005, 12:10 PM
Nice, if you still need the sounds i can try find the polonaise and i will make those order sounds, lets say for tommorow or on środa (damn how is it in english:D )

Thanks for the tip on the mod and one more thing - if we are discussing the hussar - these wings were mostly for avoiding being captured by sort of web used by mongol horse archers. They were extremely effective against heavy cavalry until they met those wings;) For more historical stuff - hussar offcourse should have bonus vs meele but also vs mounted and i would think about bonus vs city raiding - each hussar was equipped with a pistol to fight with fortifications.

newMDKiller
Nov 28, 2005, 03:01 PM
Flags which I placed in the previous theme ( http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3376935&posted=1 ) work fine. It is only necessary to change the recording in the file: \Mods\Poland\Assets\XML\Art\CIV4ArtDefines_Civiliz ation. It was:
"<Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/flagdecal_Poland.dds</Path>
<bWhiteFlag>0</bWhiteFlag>"
Now I change this on:
"<Path>Art/Interface/TeamColor/flagdecal_Poland.dds</Path>
<bWhiteFlag>1</bWhiteFlag>"

It's OK. I place once again flags and additionally changed file CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization.

Martinus
Nov 29, 2005, 01:18 AM
Ah ok, this is what the white flag option is for (the previous one used the red and white scheme). Thanks. :)

newMDKiller
Nov 29, 2005, 02:56 PM
OK. Here is a little improved last flag (greater eagle). I think, that this version can be included to the "Polish Mod", of course if she pleases.

newMDKiller
Dec 03, 2005, 03:28 PM
The vote on the best flag for Poland on side http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=4639

You can download this flags here.

msz4
Dec 04, 2005, 04:05 AM
If you are still looking for Bogurodzica I have one and I can share ;)
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads10/bogurodzica.zip
I'm waiting for final mod, so far uoy have done great job :goodjob:

Martinus
Dec 05, 2005, 01:32 AM
Thanks msz4. I have Bogurodzica, too, however what would be cool is having someone with a music edition programme to somehow (if it is at all possible) make a "primitive" and a "symphonic" version of Bogurodzica, so that we have three soundtracks for different eras. If you know anyone who can do that, it would be a great help. :)

stachnie
Dec 06, 2005, 04:59 AM
according to my information feathers wings of husaria allow them to create a specific sound that was distrupting enemy horses, thus I think that husar should have bonuses versus mounted

This explanation is very popular but I think it is like an urban legend. I heard that the reason for their wings was different: husaria often had been fighting the Crimean Tartars, who often used a weapon called arcan (? - I am not sure if such word exists in English, but the weapon is a bit similar to the Indian lasso) and the wings prevented hussars from being caught from behind.


Best regards,

Slawomir Stachniewicz.

hewhocaves
Dec 07, 2005, 07:17 AM
yes, i used to think that about the wings as well. as it was explained to me it was something along the lines of a dive bomber sound.

however, im not sure exactly how that would be accomplished with the wings the way they are. To me, the most practical explanantions are twofold (in addition to the lasso idea):

One: psychological intimidation. these units are very recognizable on the battlefield - everyone pretty much knew them by sight. And it might make the units look larger as well.

Two: to confuse the enemy about your numbers. It might have broken up the individual riders profiles, making them look like one big mass, rather than a collection of individuals.

John

LongLife
Dec 17, 2005, 06:16 AM
Yes, those wings had a psychological influence oh defenders.When Hussar was in move the wings produced a strange sound.Wings were moving a little bit in motion.

Azazell
Dec 18, 2005, 03:31 AM
thank you very much ! :>

Pozdrawiam Wszystkich Polaków

Frayer
Dec 31, 2005, 02:10 PM
Hehe nice job, but where is "wings"?

newMDKiller
Dec 31, 2005, 05:20 PM
New version mod is on this site http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Pol&type=Civ4&section=Mody (Polskie Imperium). This is the continuation of Martinus mod (created by civ.org.pl team).
Or http://www.civ.org.pl/index.html - english version - CIV IV - Download - Mods - Polish Empire (Click).

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 12, 2006, 03:56 PM
I want to create 3d leaders to Poland, the ones choisen by u people, any change to add them in this project?

newMDKiller
Jan 12, 2006, 04:20 PM
We will change existing statical LeaderHeads on yours 3d leaders with pleasure. We need:
Casimir III the Great (Kazimierz III Wielki) - perhaps as the background Wawel Castle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawel ) .
John III Sobieski (Jan III Sobieski) - perhaps as the background Wilanów palace ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilan%C3%B3w ).
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141744
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141744&page=4

The latest version mod is here:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods
(Polish Empire - Click).

Goblin Fanatic
Jan 13, 2006, 05:40 AM
Good work, fellows.
I'd have to throw my two zloty to the hussar wings discussion, apparently it's
a thing that many historians and ordinary people cannot agree on.
Myself, i've heard that both the protection from arkan lassoes and the dive bomber sound were legends, and wings were only a ceremonial thing, not used in battles.
Of course it hardly matters, hussars were adept both at breaking organized infartry and chasing fast cavalry of the steppe variety.

Martinus
Jan 14, 2006, 06:17 AM
Sorry guys for an extended absence - I had some tough **** going on in real life and didn't have time to focus on the mod at all. Good to see others picked it up, though. :)

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 14, 2006, 10:15 AM
We will change existing statical LeaderHeads on yours 3d leaders with pleasure. We need:
Casimir III the Great (Kazimierz III Wielki) - perhaps as the background Wawel Castle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawel ) .
John III Sobieski (Jan III Sobieski) - perhaps as the background Wilanów palace ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilan%C3%B3w ).
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141744
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141744&page=4

The latest version mod is here:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods
(Polish Empire - Click).

great! :D when I have the first views I'll post here ;)

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 15, 2006, 12:16 PM
King Casemir III of Poland :D suggestions to changes r welcome ;)

EDITED: OLD PREVIEW REMOVED

Macezek
Jan 15, 2006, 07:28 PM
hey everyone, its nice to see that theres other people who feel like i do about Poland missing from the game. you guys are awesome for tackling a project like this. unfortunately for me, i dont have any animation or programing skills, but i will try and help out any way i can.

Maciek

Shqype
Jan 15, 2006, 07:52 PM
I think Lek Valenci would be a cool leader to have ... Pope John Paul II stood beside Lek Valenci against the Soviet Union... if someone knows more about this story can you please tell it! :)

Martinus
Jan 16, 2006, 01:30 AM
CivArmy, I think the portrait is awesome. Two things I would change, though:

1. The eagles on his "cloak pins" are modern day eagles. It would be best if eagles from the time of Casimir were used. Here is an exact eagle of Casimir, unfortunately it's monochromatic:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/b/b5/OrelekKazimierzaW.jpg

Also, there seems to be some weird semi-transparency on the pins, so the shade of red is different over different types of fabric.

2. This is just a minor thing, but if possible, the crown could be a bit darker and/or metallic, as it looks a bit out of place with the rest of the model.

Edit: The one used for the crown of the Bulgarian leader seems to be perfect:

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5936/bulgaria011zq.jpg



But in general, as I said, it's awesome. Many thanks. :D

newMDKiller
Jan 16, 2006, 09:33 AM
Martinus, can you update screen in first post? As yet they are from the old version mod. CivArmy - what you will say on lightly blur background like for orginal leaders in Civ 4? Sorry for my English.

The coloured eagle (Banner of Kazimierz Wielki):
http://www.atlasgeo.net/fotw/images/p/pl_kw.gif
but Martinus version is better. This is only for spying of colours.

Perhaps crown as on this pictures:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/7/78/Crown_casimir.jpg/200px-Crown_casimir.jpg
http://malarze.com/obrazy/poczet_wielki.jpg
And to the end, do not take to heart our complaining too much.

newMDKiller
Jan 16, 2006, 09:55 AM
Sorry for second post. In this site http://piastowie.kei.pl/piast/filmy.htm - second movie the royal insignia of Casimir the Great (Kazimierza Wielkiego).

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 16, 2006, 01:34 PM
cool suggestions, I'll try them and I'll post the new view soon :D

newMDKiller
Jan 18, 2006, 12:34 PM
One more thing. CivArmy - why Casimir is 410x512 piksel, not 512x512? Will it not be look bad in game?

In this site http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=4899&page=1 (post 41) is diplo musik for Casimir the Great (author: kodzi). In new version mod we include this.

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 18, 2006, 01:53 PM
One more thing. CivArmy - why Casimir is 410x512 piksel, not 512x512? Will it not be look bad in game?

In this site http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=4899&page=1 (post 41) is diplo musik for Casimir the Great (author: kodzi). In new version mod we include this.


Actily I produce every LH in 410x512, then I re-size it to 512x512 to appear in the correct form on game :)

LoD
Jan 20, 2006, 02:54 PM
The new version of the mod, including kodzi's wonderful music, is ready!
Download it here:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods

morty_piper
Jan 21, 2006, 03:27 PM
Hey, thank you all so much for making poland. I have been lobbying historical gamers to make them for awhile. Its really appreciated. However, one criticism, and it could already be solved. Polish hussars(if thats what we're going with) were successful because of mobility, not armor or weaponry from my historical understanding. THe units were incredibly valuable cause they could fight in the russian camapaign and swiftly arrive at western campaigns without trouble, and unlike heavier units, were not limited when fighting pikemen(they could avoid and flank much better then heavy knights). Not sure if this is exactly accurate, but that is my understanding of the polish hussars during their peak.

Martinus
Jan 22, 2006, 02:47 AM
First post updated with the latest Readme file and a link to the latest English version of the mod. :)

LoD
Jan 22, 2006, 03:58 AM
morty_piper: your understanding is correct. The main advantage of the Polish hussars was indeed (apart from their weaponry) their mobility. The hussars were, for example, very effective at breaking formations of early musketeers.

On the other hand, we had to be careful with not giving the hussars too many bonuses, in order to not make them overpowered. However, if you have a suggestion for a balanced set of attributes, shoot.

Macezek
Jan 23, 2006, 06:36 PM
This mod is amazing. Thanks for making the Polish civ. I just got one question... shouldn't the unique unit be called the Winged Hussar?

morty_piper
Jan 23, 2006, 06:38 PM
Well my issue is that the one lsited on the forums for the hussar is the same as the spanish UU except it also has a first strike. I'd rather not just remake old UU's with extra bonuses(this could have changed as i am downloading the file only now). However, perhaps give it only a +25% vs melee to regulate the first strike or, to make sense of its mobility, give it something similar to the mongols keshik, no penalty for moving through rough terrain. Also, you could give it the blitz ability to attack twice in a turn, pointing out its very obvious advantage.

+25% melee(or gunpowder since i recall it was excellent aginst those as well) and a blitz would put its two greatest strengths, while not overbalancing the unit(pikemen would still have a solid chance of nullifying its advantages). But thats my two cents. Personally, i'm just happy to have the unit and civ in the game :)

Martinus
Jan 24, 2006, 04:08 AM
Heavy hussars were, as the name implies, heavy. There is nothing that would suggest these troops had an easy time moving through hills and forests.

CivArmy s. 1994
Jan 26, 2006, 01:41 PM
this is the final version of Casimir III :D
BTW, sorry for late, my boss has discovered Bronze Working and adoped to slavery, for this reason I've had shortage of time to do other things as mod to Civ4, eat, sleep and breath :lol:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/casimir-410x512.jpg

newMDKiller
Jan 26, 2006, 02:38 PM
Hm. Perhaps background like this:
http://forums.civ.org.pl/misc.php?action=downloadfile&FileID=648
I'm sorry, that I used your graphic, this is only for show you, what I meant writing "lightly blur background ". Maybe only a little less blur? What you think?

Kushan
Jan 27, 2006, 02:12 PM
Martinus,

Could I please include your poland civilization in my medieval mod? I'll gladley give you credit for it.

Thanks,

Kushan

Martinus
Jan 30, 2006, 02:23 AM
Kushan,

Personally, I don't have a slightest problem with that. The mod is now joint project (the exact credit details are given on the first page), so as long as you credit it fully, I don't think anyone will object. :)

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 01, 2006, 04:41 PM
first of all I'd like apologize for have posted few here lately, I continue with that problem of shortage of time and it looks like will get worst :sad:
well, I did this night the new leader to Poland, King John III Sabieski :) I need some suggestions for changes, maybe change his mounth, I'll do that ASAP ;)

OLD PREVIEW REMOVED

enjoy the 1st view!

hotei
Feb 02, 2006, 09:02 AM
CivArmy,
Nice work! but he looks funny for me :) A bit like Marlon Brando in Godfather :D
Main thing - moustaches, imo, should be longer he had them really long, look at this picture http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/1/17/Jan_Sobieski.jpg
Second thing is that he was big and quite fat, maybe you should add him a gill ;) and third i think his face should be spread horizontally a bit.
'Clothes' and jewellery are great.

kodzi
Feb 03, 2006, 08:46 AM
hey CivArmy. I'. Kodzi form Poland's Empire Projects, so your work is very good but you are Brazilian so you now :). I want modified your's picture of Casimir and John Sobieski ofcourse if you agred for this ?.

This is my propsition:

Casimir: http://images2.fotosik.pl/18/6an0p3ie3p04khlp.jpg

Sobieski: http://images1.fotosik.pl/18/3ga48bcif60cv0wo.jpg

If you don'd agredd for my modification, or if you want change yourself work please thing about my proposition

If you need a graphics of sword's , crwon's or background tell me !!!

bbombel
Feb 03, 2006, 02:12 PM
I think it would be great if background of those images would underscore are christian religiousness, wchich was especially very strong in era of such leader like Jan III Sobieski. Maybe background should be in cathedral (church)?

bbombel
Feb 03, 2006, 02:15 PM
And as a country we never was agressive in political, we hardly ever or never occupy enemy territory, we had many wars, but in 95% of them we were defending ourselfs and fighting for independence with Austria, Turky, Russion, Germany....
So I dont' know if agressive attribute is right for Jan III Sobieski.
Expansive attribute is not right for sure from historical point of view.

hewhocaves
Feb 03, 2006, 04:40 PM
I believe when I downloaded the mod i changed Casmir to philisophical and organized

i also changed Sobieski to Aggressive and spiritual.

Casmir's change because he is best known for reorganizing the kingdom and starting up the university (although it didn't really get going until later)

Sobieski was a career soldier, so aggressive is obvious. (not that he was aggresive, but that he had a good army) and spiritual simply for the no anarchy.

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 07, 2006, 02:32 PM
...so your work is very good but you are Brazilian so you now...

:confused: :confused: :confused:


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the images improves r great on both leaders, thanks! :goodjob: we can use the original version or these new ones for the mod. but we have to remember that this improve can be used only on static leaderheads, for animated ones I need produce the 3d model of this new crow and royal acessories, so, they can move with the other parts of the LHs.

I did a new version of King Sabieski using some tips that I received, thanks.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3202/sobieski410x5125oi.jpg

I hope u people enjoy and I promiss, I'll try visit/post more on CFC, I'm missing last mounths :(

Martinus
Feb 08, 2006, 03:01 AM
Looks great. I think the Brazilian comment meant to imply that as a Brazilian you may be less familiar with the Polish imagery of depicting these two rulers than Poles. :)

CivArmy s. 1994
Feb 08, 2006, 12:50 PM
Looks great. I think the Brazilian comment meant to imply that as a Brazilian you may be less familiar with the Polish imagery of depicting these two rulers than Poles. :)

maybe it is and I agree :)

BTW, when u can launch the new version with these LHs?

Martinus
Feb 09, 2006, 05:13 PM
Probably this weekend. :)

Marc-Antoine
Feb 15, 2006, 04:11 AM
Hello, Czesc, Bonjour...

I've found this Mod truly increadible... So i started to i started to integrate it to my Mod (an ugly mod sum of many you presented). But as i'm French, i also translate a great part of the text file (just two or three title i don't know how to translate)...
So if you ant to add it to your files (to complete it) :
Text_CivopediaCivLeaders
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CIV_POLAND_PEDIA</Tag>
<French>[TAB]La nation maintenant connue comme les polanes était à l'origine un groupe de tribues slaves dont le territoire se situait approximativement à l'intérieur des frontières actuelles du pays. Ces factions étaient unifiées au Xième siècle sous le commandement de Mieszko I de la dynastie des Piasts. Mieszko convertit les polanes au christianisme pour pouvoir mieux juguler les croisades germaines. Cette date est reconnue comme celle à partir de laquelle le pays vint à naître. Depuis la formation de l'état, la Pologne, suite à une position centrale peu chanceuse, du combattre chacun de ses voisins. La première bataille majeure enregistrée fut celle de Cedynia en 972, où l'agresseur dut le margrave de Brandebourg, et qui s'acheva par une victoire éclatante des armées polonaises. Le XII et XIII ième siècle vit la Pologne divisée en une multitude de petites principautés qui furent plus tard unifiées sous le règne de Wladyslaw I. Lui et son fils {Casimir}, le seul qui mérita d'être appelé {le grand} dans l'histoire polonaise, initia d'importantes réformes administratives, judiciaires et legislatives, et fonda la première université polonaise (la 37ième d'europe). La dynastie suivante à diriger la Pologne fut les Jagellons, grands ducs de lithuanie, qui resta unie avec la Pologne jusqu'au XVIII ième siècle. Le règne de cette dynastie ammena la Pologne au sommet de son pouvoir et à la magnificence de sa culture. C'est aussi une ère de grandes batailles contre 'l'éternet ennemi polonais', les chevaliers teutoniques. La plus importante d'entre elles étant la bataille de Grünwald en 1410 qui s'acheva par une victoire polonaise décisive. Durant cette période, la noblesse polonaise commença à consolider ses droits et ses privilèges, et le siège d'un parlement emergea, la diète. Ce fut le pic de la renommée de la tolérence polonaise, qui fut soulignée par le fait qu'elle fut le seul pays de cette période qui n'eut pas de "chasse aux sorcières". Avec la mort de Sigmund II, s'acheva la dynastie des Jagellon et commença une période de déclin de l'histoire polonaise. La Pologne était forte et riche, et ses frontières s'étiraient de la baltique jusqu'à la mer noire. Cependant son système politique révolu la poussait vers un rapide déclin. [PARAGRAPH:2] Le pouvoir tomba dans les mains d'un roi élu, qui était choisi par le parlement bicéphale. Une invention polonaise distinguée fut le Liberum Veto, qui rendit possible pour tout MP d'empêcher le passage de la législation. Ces deux principes spécifiques ammenèrent beaucoup de corruption, d'anarchie et la consolidation du poubvoir entre les mains des magnats pratiquement autonomes. Le XVIIième et le XVIIIième siècle virent le déclin de la Pologne prise dans des guerres sans fin avec la Suède, la Russie et les cosaques ukrainiens. Toujours, dans ces évènements des coups d'éclats percèrent, principalement due à la cavalerie spécifique polonaise, les hussards. Cette cavalerie légère apportait la terreur parmi ces ennemis avec leur charge très rapide, leur équipement garni de peau de léopard, armures légères et plumes légères attachées aux bras ou à la selle. Grâce à ces formations, Jean Casimir et Jean Sobieski parvinrent à sortir victorieux de batailles avec les Ottomans, bataille dont la plus grande fut celle de Vienne (mi XVII siècle), bataille qui stoppa la menace contre la chrétienté dans en Europe Centrale. A partir de 1697, les électeurs de Saxe prennent le titre de roi puis s'ensuit une partition de la Pologne entre la Russie, l'Autriche et la Prusse en 1772. Malgré cette situation désespérée, la Diète supportée par Stabislas II l'auguste, roi de Pologne et amant de Catherine la grande, intégra une constitution le 3 Mai 1791 - la seconde au monde. Cet acte et une brève guerre révolutionnaire pour la reconquète (1794) lebée oas Kosciusko fut suivi par de nouvelles partitions (1793, 1795-97) qui se termina finalement par le démembrement total de la pologne de la carte européenne. [PARAGRAPH:2]Après le congrès de Vienne, la Pologne était recréée avec sa propre administration mais le tsar russe en tant que roi. Des émeutes sanglantes qui eurent lieu en 1830, de 1846 à 1849 et en 1863 étaient réprimées mais n'empéchèrent pas la montée de partis démocratiques qui demandèrent l'indépendance et prêt à prendre le pouvoir après la première guerre mondiale, quand finalement, la Pologne regagna la liberté après 123 années. La guerre contre la russie rouge (1920 à 1921)avec la fameuse bataille de Varsovie fut suivit par le dictatorat du Maréchal Pilsudki. Selon les termes du traité de Versailles, la Pologne obtint un accès au port de Danzig par un corridor qui devaint un [casus belli] pour Hitler, déclarant la guerre à la Pologne, ce qui démarra la seconde gerre mondiale. Après la guerre, la Pologne se retrouvait dans la sphère d'influence soviétique. L'opposition politique était neutralisée et en 1952, une constitution de style soviétique était adoptée. Des vagues de grèves en 1956 et 1970 conduisirent à un communisme rigidifié et seulement après que Karol Wojtyla devint le premier pape polonais, en 1979, le régime s'adoucit. Une crise gouvernementale qui suivi l'établissement de la loi martiale par PM Jaruzelski, mena à la légalisation du 'Solidarnosk' (le premier syndicat libre polonais et la première opposition active) et un tour de table avec les divers groupes politiques. Un parlement multi partie était établi, et Lech Walesa (leafder du Solidarnosk) fut élu président. Depuis lors, la démocratisation de la Pologne se poursuit malgrés des problèmes économiques constants. Récemment, la Pologne rejoint l'OTAN et est maintenant membre de l'union Européenne.</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_LEADER_CASIMIR_PEDIA</Tag>
<French>[H1]Casimir III le Grand [\H1][NEWLINE]Roi de Pologne [NEWLINE][BOLD] Vécu : [\BOLD] 1310 - 1370[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Histoire:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB] Dernier roi de la dynasties des Piast, roi de Pologne en 1333, il est le fils de Wladislas I le Court (Wladyslaw I Lokietek). [PARAGRAPH:1]Casimir est l'unique roi polonais qui reçut et conserva le titre de Grand dans l'histoire polonaise (Boleslav I Chrobry fut appelé de cette manière durant quelques temps mais ne conserva ce titre), et cet titre est très mérité. Quand il reçut la couronne, il s'y accrocha alors même que ses voisins ne la reconnaissait pas et l'appelait le "roi de Cracovie". L'économie était ruinée, et le pays exangue et las des guerres. A sa mort, il avait doublé la taille de son territoire (principalement par l'adjonction de territoire en Ukraine actuelle et du duché de Halicz), augmenté la prospérité, enrichi le pays avec de bonnes perspectives pour le futur. Bien qu'il soit dépeint comme un roi paisible dans les livres pour enfants, il mena de nombreuses guerres victorieuses et en préparait d'autres au moment de sa mort.[PARAGRAPH:1]Il construisit de nouveau chateaux, réforma l'armée, ainsi que les lois polonaises criminelles et civiles. A la diète de wislica, le 11 Mars 1347, il introduisit des réformes légales et salutaires dans la jurisprudence du pays. Il parapha un code de loi pour la Grande et la Petite Pologne, qui lui fit gagner le titre de "Justinien Polonais". Il fonda l'université de Cracovie, bien que sa mort ralentit son développement (ce pourquoi cette université est nos jours appelée jagelonne et non Casimirienne). Il organisa une réunion des roi à Cracovie en 1364 qui permit de montrer la richesse du royaume.[PARAGRAPH:1]Casimir n'eut pas de fils. Manifestement, il estima ses descendants soit incapable d'hériter soit trop jeune. Ainsi, et de manière à pourvoir une succession claire plutôt que problématique, il maria sa soeur Elisabeth, reine de Hongrie et son fils Louis, roi de Hongris comme successeur du trône de Pologne. Louis fut proclamé roi à la mort de Casimir, en 1370, et Elisabeth teint de manière pratique le pouvoir jusqu'à sa mort en 1380.</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_LEADER_SOBIESKI_PEDIA</Tag>
<French>[H1]Yan III Sobieski [\H1][NEWLINE][BOLD]Roi de Pologne, dirigeant du Commonwealth [\BOLD][NEWLINE][BOLD]Vécu: [\BOLD] 1629 - 1696[NEWLINE][PARAGRAPH:2][BOLD]Histoire:[\BOLD][NEWLINE][TAB]Jan (Yan) Sobieski est né en 1629 à Olesko, Pologne, de Jakub (Jackob) Sobieski (1580-1646), Voivod (?) du voivodie de Ruthénie et castellan de Cracovie, et de Zofia Teofillia (Danilowicz), petite fille de Hetman Stanislas Zólkievski. Il gagna moult gloire comme commandant militaire hors paire dans les guerres contre les mOttomans, les Tatars, les moscovites, les cosaques et les suédois.[PARAGRAPH:1]En 1665, il devint grand maréchal de la couronne, et en 1666 "Field Crown Hetman" (?). En 1668, il était distingué pour sa carrière militaire, et après la mort du successuer de Yan II Kazimier, Michel Korybut Wisniowiecki, Sobieski fut élu le 21 Mai 1674 par la szlachta (concil de la noblesse) roi de la communauté de Pologne Lithuanie, et fut couronné le 2 Février 1676. [PARAGRAPH:1]L'adresse militaire de Yan Sobieski, démontrée dans les guerres contre l'empire ottoman, contribua à son élection comme roi de Pologne. Une de ses ambitions était d'unifier l'europe chrétienne dans une croisade pour rejetter les turcs hors d'Europe. Il fit alliance avec le saint empereur romain, et rejoint la ligue sainte initiée par le pape Innocent XI pour préserver la chrétienté.[PARAGRAPH:1]Sobieski prévu d'occuper la Prusse avec le concours des Suédois et le soutien Francais, mais cela échoua à cause de la guerre contre les turcs et de l'opposition des magnats.[PARAGRAPH:1]Le plus grand succès de Sobieski eut lieu le 12 Septembre 1683 avec la victoire de la bataille de Vienne, au commendement des troupes polonaises, autrichiennes et allemandes, contre les turcs de Mustafa Kara. Le pape et d'autres dignitaires étrangers le nommèrent "Sauveur de Vienne et de la civilisation d'europe occidentale". Dans une lettre à sa femme il écrivit même "tout le peuple m'embrasse les mains, les pieds, les habits; D'autres ne font que me toucher en disant 'Laissez nous embrasser la main vaillante !'".[PARAGRAPH:1]En arrivant à Vienne, il rejoint les autrichiens et les allemands. Sobieski avait prévu d'attaquer le 13 Septembre, mais à la vue des faibles défenses turques, il ordonna un assaut final le 12. A 4 heure du matin, une armée d'environ 81 000 hommes attaqua l'armée turque forte d'environ 130 000 soldats. Sobieski chargea avec les hussars, et peut après le ligne de front turque fut enfoncée alors que les turcs s'éparpillaient dans la plus grande confusion. A 17 heure 30, Sobieski entrait dans la tente vide de Kara Mustafa alors que la bataille de Vienne était terminée. [PARAGRAPH:1]Le roi Yan III Sobieki, surnommé par les turcs "lion de Lechistan", et dernier grand roi de Pologne mourrut à Wilanów, en Pologne, le 17 Juin 1696. Sa femme, Maria Kasimir mourru en 1716 à Blois en France, et son corps fut ramené en Pologne. Tous deux sont enterrés au chateau de Wawel à Cracovie en Pologne.</French>
</TEXT>

Text_strategy
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_UNIT_POLAND_HUSSAR_STRATEGY</Tag>
<English>It replaces Knight, is slightly more expensive to build and has a bonus against melee units as well as a first strike ability.</English>
<French>Il remplace le chevalier, est un peu plus cher à construire et a un bonus contre les unitée de mélée ainsi que des premières attaques.</French>
</TEXT>


Infos_Cities
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_SZCZECIN</Tag>
<English>Szczecin</English>
<French>Stettin</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_GDANSK</Tag>
<English>Gdansk</English>
<French>Danzig</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_KRAKOW</Tag>
<English>Krakow</English>
<French>Cracovie</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CITY_NAME_WARSZAWA</Tag>
<English>Warszawa</English>
<French>Varsovie</French>
</TEXT>

Civililopedia_Units
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_UNIT_POLAND_HUSSAR_PEDIA</Tag>
<French><French>[TAB]Initialement, la première unité de hussar dans l'union polaco-lithuanienne fut formée par le parlement polonais en 1503, qui leva trois bannière de mercenaires hongrois. Rapidement, le recrutement commença parmi les citoyens polonais et lithuaniens. Etant bien plus manoeuvrable que les lanciers lourdement harnachés utilisés auparavant, les hussars se montrèrent vitaux dans les victoires de Orsza (1514) etd'Obertyn (1531). Sous le reigne de Stéphane Batory, les hussars furent remplacés par des lancier style médiévaux dans l'armée polonaise et formèrent alors le noyau de la cavalerie polonaise. [PARAGRAPH:1]Au cours du XVI ième siècle, les hussars de Hongrie devinrent d'aspect plus lourd : ils abandonnèrent les boucliers en bois et adoptèrent l'armure de métal lourde. Quand Stephan Batory, un prince hongro-transylvanien, devint roi de pologne en 1576, il commença à réorganiser les hussars de sa garde royale le long de la frontière hongroise, les trnasformant en une formation lourde, équipée de longue lance en guise d'arme principale. A partir des années 1590, la plupart des hussars polonais avaient été transformés dans le même modèle 'lourd' hongrois. Ces hussars 'lourds' polonais étaient connus comme 'husaria' par chez eux.[PARAGRAPH:1]Avec la bataille de Lubiezòw en 1577, l'age d'or des husaria commença. Jusqu'à la bataille de Vienne en 1683, les hussars polonais combattirent sans compter contre des ennemis variés, et rarement pour perdre la bataille. Dans les batailles de Byczyna (1588), Kokenhusen (1601), Kircholm (1605), Kluszyn (1610), Gniew (1626), Chocim (1673) et Lwów (1675), les hussars firent preuve de leur aspect décisif à battre les troupes ennemis. [PARAGRAPH:1]Une des rares unité de l'armée permanente polonaise (la plupart des unitées étaient en fait des levées en masses) les hussars étaient bien entrennés et équipés. Jusqu'au XVIII ième siècle, ils étaient considérés comme une unité d'élite des armées polonaises. Par la renomée et le prestige qui entourrais les hussars, beaucoup d'eux étaient accepté parmi la noblesse. Cependant, au 18ième siècle, leur importance diminua par l'introduction des arme à feu d'infanterie moderne et des artilleries à feu rapide, alors que la tactique et l'armement des hussars restait inchangé.</French>
</TEXT>

Infos_Objects
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CIV_POLAND_DESC</Tag>
<English>Polish Empire</English>
<French>
<Text>Empire Polonais</Text>
<Gender>Male</Gender>
<Plural>0</Plural>
</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CIV_POLAND_SHORT_DESC</Tag>
<English>Poland</English>
<French>
<Text>Pologne</Text>
<Gender>Female</Gender>
<Plural>0</Plural>
</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_CIV_POLAND_ADJECTIVE</Tag>
<English>Polish</English>
<French>Polonais</French>
</TEXT>
<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_UNIT_POLAND_HUSSAR</Tag>
<English>Heavy Hussar</English>
<French>
<Text>Hussar lourd</Text>
<Gender>Male</Gender>
<Plural>0</Plural>
</French>
</TEXT>

namyak
Feb 25, 2006, 10:20 AM
Some information on the Polish Hussar:

The Hussar were incredibly effective at engaging infantry armed with firearms and protected by pikeman, a task almost impossible for other forms of calvary at the time. The reasons for this are numerous, and hopefully will help to make the Hussar a more unique UU:
1) A Polish calvary charge was "open", leaving more than a horse's length between charging troops in the lines. This allowed for more manueverability, allowing the soldiers to go around obstacles without breaking the line as well as allowing the entire line to break off the charge in one motion effortlessly. This also made the face of the charge longer, which helped the Hussar to flank dense squares of musketmen and pikemen, as the tactic at the time was to condense the squares to make them more effective. It also gave the musketmen less targets to aim at, nullifying the advantage they held by packing themselves in.

2) Hussar tactics generally called for a charge of 200 men in 4 lines. Owing to the openess of the lines, Hussar tactics were adaptable to the situation. Once the first line had closed to within gallop distance of the enemy formation, the second line could either fill-in the gaps of the first line and present a solid wall of charging horses, or could continue to follow the first line, who would strike the face of the infantry square and turn away, allowing the second line to strike almost immediately afterwards. This at the same time that the margins of the Hussar line were flanking the enemy.

3) The lances Hussar's carried where almost completely different than the calvary lances other nations used. While the trend in the rest of Europe was to make the lances shorter, Hussar lances were made in such a way that they were both incredibly light and incredibly long; in fact, Hussar lances were longer than the pikes used against them, allowing the Hussars to engage the pikemen before they could impale their horse.

4) Also, the fact that they still used lances in their calvary charge, another tactic the rest of Europe was getting away from at the time, gave them numerous benefits. Psychologically, infantry were not used to being beared down upon with an intimidating weapon like a lance. When struck with a lance, in comparison to a firearm, a soldier would be propelled backwards instead of fall to the ground. This gave the benefit of disrupting the formation of the infantry square.

Hope this helps somewhat, even if it is wordy; I tend to ramble on topics that interest me... also, thanks for an excellent mod Martinus.

Eskel
Mar 19, 2006, 09:21 AM
Continuing on hussars topic:
Polish heavy hussars were the last european heavy armored cavalry. They were protected with heavy breastplate armour, which was designed to resist even the musket shot, but carried no armour at their backs ;-).

BTW: Civ4Army, thx for your efforts. If you didn't notice, the long winter and lack of sunshine makes almost all Poles eternal malkontents... so pls dont worry about any complaints. You did really great work, and I hadnt even dreamt of so fine rendered in-game polish rulers pictures. Keep that going, you have mine gratitude.

LDeska
Mar 20, 2006, 03:09 AM
I also want express my deepest gratitude for Polish mod. Yesterday I've completed my first game using that mod (space race victory on noble level, standard map). I only hope that our civilization will be included in next edition of civ. It's quite strange that western europe is so over-represented (England, France, Spain, Rome, Germany) and Central and Eastern Europe has only Russians :-( which I don't want to use for historical reasons :-)
Great work!
Wielkie dzięki!

Leszek

dimaliok
Apr 17, 2006, 06:00 PM
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7285/logocivorgplteam3te.gif
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5742/polishleaders21pq.gif

Mod Features

Adds the Polish civilization
Adds Casimir and John III Sobieski as the leader of the Polish civilization (LeaderHeads and buttons for Civilopedia)
Includes Unique Unit - Heavy Hussar (and button for Civilopedia)
Includes new flag and button for Civilopedia
Includes Civilopedia entries for Casimir, John III Sobieski, Heavy Hussar, and Poland
Orginal Polish sound for units
Orginal music for leaders
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Music clips disclaimer:
Music By: InkwizytoR on the motives of:
Bogurodzica (Casimir) and F. Chopin Etude C-dur (Sobieski).
Used Intruments:Claymore Set,NaturalStudio.
Used Software:ModPlug Tracker 1.16, Audacity.
All Rights Reserved, Niepołomice 2006
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Download (0.85)
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Pol&type=Civ4&section=Mody (Polskie Imperium - Kliknij)
or
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods (Polish Empire - Click)



Polish Civilization
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/9194/polishflag4bh.gifhttp://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4966/buttonpoland6yf.gif
Starting Techs
- Agriculture
- Hunting

Leaders
Casimir
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9964/buttoncasimir3yk.gif
- Industrious
- Organized
- Favors Hereditary Rule Civic
John III Sobieski
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7978/buttonsobieski3jm.gif
- Aggressive
- Expansive
- Favors Representation Civic

Unique Unit
Heavy Hussar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4504/buttonheavyhussar4vq.gif
- Strenght: 10
- Movement: 2
- Cost: 90 hammers
- Replace: Knight
- 1 First Strike
- Immune to First Strikes
- Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
- +50% vs. Melee Units

Screenshots:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/340/poland6ed.th.gif (http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=poland6ed.gif)http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/239/game18gz.th.gif (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=game18gz.gif)http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2926/game25fa.th.gif (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=game25fa.gif)


Special thanks to:
- Martinus for the first versions of the mod, and ideas
- LoD for the help, ideas and the patronage
- Jecrell for making the leaderhead files
- Radio Fabryka http://www.radiotczew.pl/ (particularly for Patryk) and jobabr - Polish sound for units
- newMDKiller for the flag file and buttons (civilization, Hussar)
- Berenika Stefańska for the Civilopedia Entries (Poland, Hussar)
- Kodzi for the music
- other people who helped with their ideas

NOTICE: The entries for the two leaders are largely based on the corresponding Wikipedia articles.

Installation

To install the module:
1)Unzip the Poland directory into the Mods folder of your game installation.
2)Start the game
3)Select ADVANCED
4)Select LOAD A MOD
5)Choose Poland
6)Press OK
7)The game should reload. After that, the name of the mod ("Poland") should be visible in the upper right hand corner of the title screen.

The author of the "Polish Empire.." logo and layout* is newMDKiller.

*(based on Jecrell's Carthage)

Things to do:
- replace current leaderheads with versions made by CivArmy,
- replace current leaderheads with animated leaderheads (impossible as of now),
- replace heavy hussar graphics (currently uses Knight's graphics) with own animated graphics (impossible as of now),
- include original text for Sobieski and Casimir (AI diplomacy).

Version History (since 0.81) :

0.85: added original, leader-specific music (made by Kodzi/InkwizytoR)!
0.82: added a new, better flag. Removed a bug associated with city naming.
We already have a org. ind. leader FDR

Poltjek
Apr 18, 2006, 04:37 PM
Hey folks!

I'm surprised. This is the mod I have been waiting for! That is something worth waiting for. You're awesome ;D!!

I would like to ask a question about the "things to do". When do you think the programming of the replacement of the current leaderheads with animated leaderheads could be done?
You know, as the leaders are in the game e.g. Julius Caesar?

Poltjek

karablak
May 01, 2006, 08:31 AM
hi
just want to say i really appreciate what you guys do. finally i don't have any problems choosing which civ to play with :D. keep up the good work :goodjob:

Italicus
Aug 10, 2006, 09:49 PM
The link in the site doesn't download.

http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?action=dlfile&type=Civ4&fileid=613

Mozza
Aug 16, 2006, 04:57 AM
the game has FRANCE, GERMANY, ENGLAND, SPAIN,


You've listed two distict ethnic groups there though, France and Spain are Latin cultures, whereas England and Germany are Germanic cultures (you know those Barbarians the Romans were so stressed about? That was us :D ) To imply they're the same is like saying Arabs and Persians are the same, or Slavs and Turks

That said I'm in full support of Poland in the game, visited Krakow earlier this year, great place. And to be honest the more the merrier as far as Civs is concerned. Looks good too.

Italicus
Aug 16, 2006, 02:13 PM
Why don't downloader???????

ParkCungHee
Aug 16, 2006, 02:51 PM
Is there any chance of Józef Piłsudski being made a great leader? I don't know much of Polands history before the 20th century but he certainly seemed great to me.

Scalfaro
Aug 17, 2006, 01:52 AM
This mod looks beautiful, and I'll definitely be downloading it soon. Only thing that bothers me is that their names are not in Polish. :\

Personally, I would change Casimir to Kazimierz and John to Jan. At the very least I'd amend Sobieski. "John" just doesn't fit.. x_x

But in all other aspects, the mod is excellent! Can't wait to see the proud Husaria trampling the Germans. :)

LoD
Aug 19, 2006, 12:30 AM
Italicus: the download link does work. I think maybe you're trying to right click and "save target as" instead of just left clicking.

ParkCungHee: this was proposed many times on the Polish sections of the c.o.p forums. The problem is that additional leader = additional graphics + additional music + additional lengthy discussion on the attributes => much more work. So maybe in the future, but not right now.

Scalfaro: here the problem is that we have English names for the other leaders in Civ ("Peter","Catherine" etc.), so we have to conform to the standards, so to speak...

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New version (both vanilla and Warlords) is coming very soon. More TBA.

Italicus
Aug 19, 2006, 11:55 AM
Thank you Lod! :)

kodzi
Aug 21, 2006, 11:53 PM
now we have new version of Polands Civilization:

news Animated LH, hussar's units , 1.61 compatibility, polsih version of laugange

http://images4.fotosik.pl/98/43dd6b62231b653e.jpg

downlod link:
comming soon

Italicus
Aug 22, 2006, 05:38 AM
download link?

LoD
Aug 22, 2006, 05:42 AM
Coming in the next 15 minutes probably :).
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EDIT: OK, people, the mod is here!

As promised, it contains both the hussar unit model and the animated 3D leaderheads.

The download link is the same:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods
(at the bottom of the page)

Please report any bugs you find. Thanks in advance!

Italicus
Aug 22, 2006, 07:02 AM
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?action=dlfile&type=Civ4&fileid=613

But... Why is a executive file?

Italicus
Aug 22, 2006, 09:10 AM
hey CivArmy. I'. Kodzi form Poland's Empire Projects, so your work is very good but you are Brazilian so you now :). I want modified your's picture of Casimir and John Sobieski ofcourse if you agred for this ?.

This is my propsition:

Casimir: http://images2.fotosik.pl/18/6an0p3ie3p04khlp.jpg

Sobieski: http://images1.fotosik.pl/18/3ga48bcif60cv0wo.jpg

If you don'd agredd for my modification, or if you want change yourself work please thing about my proposition

If you need a graphics of sword's , crwon's or background tell me !!!


Very nice these images.

LoD
Aug 22, 2006, 09:54 AM
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?action=dlfile&type=Civ4&fileid=613

But... Why is a executive file?


Because it's an installer :).

kodzi
Aug 22, 2006, 01:24 PM
@Italicus it is ver old work.

Italicus
Aug 22, 2006, 01:37 PM
Because it's an installer :).

Yes but, to me served the folders to put in my mod...

PSYX
Aug 24, 2006, 07:13 AM
Who can give me poland medieval units images? Now I do the mod about medieval times and can do this units... (Now, some info about my mod is avaliable only on russian: http://forum.civfanatics.ru/index.php?showtopic=3925&st=0&gopid=117482&)

Edgecrusher
Aug 26, 2006, 06:31 PM
Ive been racking my brain, to think of a Unique Building for Poland, so I can import the civ into warlords (im sorry I prefer warlords to vanilla).

Has anyone else thought of an idea for a Unique Building?

LoD
Aug 27, 2006, 05:49 AM
Edgecrusher: actually the Warlords version is already complete and will be available for download soon. The unique building was chosen to be a regional parliament/regional diet, which replaces the Courthouse.

Edgecrusher
Aug 27, 2006, 08:38 AM
Excellent, that is good news. I was thinking of something to do with Farming to be honest with you. But thats just as good.

Eskel
Aug 31, 2006, 02:22 PM
To Psyx:
If you want to find quickly some good info on polish medieval warfare, pls go to http://www.album-grunwaldzki.iq.pl/
For your needs probably the "uzbrojenie" section will be the best, but you can find many interesting thngs on other sub-pages as well.
Good luck

HotDog Fish
Aug 31, 2006, 05:31 PM
I haven't posted on this forum for 3 YEARS but ever since I got Civ4 and Warlords I kept thinking 'Where's Poland? Then I found this excelent mod! It looks great! Fantastic work! I can't wait for the Warlord's version comes out!

Eskel
Sep 26, 2006, 10:08 AM
Hello,
What is going on with Warlords version? This waiting make us writhe in pain...

LoD
Sep 27, 2006, 02:44 AM
Sorry, there have been some delays, and it's still in testing. I'll try to provide more details soon.

LoD
Oct 23, 2006, 08:04 AM
OK... so this admittedly took a "bit" longer than was planned. Apologies on behalf of the dev team for that!

Without much further ado:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods


Please do report any bugs/typos etc. you find. And have fun!

Eskel
Oct 23, 2006, 12:00 PM
Great thanks! You're really wonderful an we owe you much!!!

LoD
Oct 24, 2006, 09:56 AM
Can we have an IOU for that ;)?

Seriously 'though, there seems to be a bug with the Regional Council. HERE (http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=5532#125961) in the attachment to post #16 is a temporary "patch". We'll try to release a new version once we identify the problem.

Eskel
Oct 25, 2006, 01:08 PM
Here you are : IOU...
BTW: don't you think that financial bonus of regional diet isn't appropriate?
We never had much gold in our kigdom's treasure...Especially in the times of noble's golden freedom(ironically, because of laws passed by regional diet's)
Wouldn't be better culture/hapiness/health, eventually great people rate bonus?
Free promotion or xp for mounted units, making hussars even more deadly, would also work fine.

PS. I played yesterday with Polish, but game crashed when I selected hussar unit to produce.

Arwon
Oct 27, 2006, 08:12 PM
Yeah I got the Hussar crash as well.

I think the Great General bonus might be what's crashing the Regional Council. I removed that and the financial bonus and replaced it with a "reduction in maintaince" increase to 60% and it seems to work fine now?

Levonardo
Nov 01, 2006, 03:17 PM
Great job, Martinus! Love it!

LoD
Nov 02, 2006, 03:54 AM
The patch I've linked to should solve the problem. If not, well, hopefully the new version of the mod should be out in a week or so.

Levonardo: although Martinus has contributed for some time for the mod, he doesn't work on it anymore since some time. So if you want to thank a single person for the mod, thank kodzi :). You will find detailed credits in the readme file, BTW.

LDeska
Nov 03, 2006, 07:46 AM
I have a related thing - we are preparing a petition to Firaxis to include Poland a civilization in future versions of Civ. Here is a proposal:
http://forums.civ.org.pl/viewtopic.php?TopicID=5159&page=3#126496
when we settle down the final version of petition, it will go online, we will wait some time to get the support and we will post it to Civ creators.

It's just a proposal - not a real petition yet, but your opinions will be appreciated. Please read it and write what you think. When it will go online, I'll post info here.

Eskel - Adam odezwij się chyba się znamy z Lęborka :) wysłałem PW i maila do Ciebie.

LoD
Nov 03, 2006, 02:45 PM
Anyway, good news - I've just tested the new version of the mod for a bit, and, apart for some very minor graphical glitches, it looks a-OK. Watch this space for more news :).

EDIT: The new version is available at the usual place:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods

Also, sorry, but I've overlooked this post:

[...]
BTW: don't you think that financial bonus of regional diet isn't appropriate?
We never had much gold in our kigdom's treasure...Especially in the times of noble's golden freedom(ironically, because of laws passed by regional diet's)
Wouldn't be better culture/hapiness/health, eventually great people rate bonus?
Free promotion or xp for mounted units, making hussars even more deadly, would also work fine.


You raise valid points - however, what specific bonuses would you propose?

LDeska
Nov 13, 2006, 04:49 AM
A petition to Firaxis concerning adding Poland as a playable civilization in future versions of Civilization has been just published.
If you're interested, please read it and sign it here:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/224875277

Eskel
Nov 14, 2006, 04:29 PM
Bonuses for regional diet:
+2 culture - because Polish in XV-XVII cnt. had great cultural influence over Lithuania, Belorus and Ukraine, most polish noblists are writers, and last but not least it gives significant bonus to both builder and warlord playing styles (helps in expansion, prevents cities from flipping, increases resistance), or
+ 25% great ppl rate - nice addition to empire, more dependant on spectacular achievements/events than overall economy strength is more appropriate to polish history (many great ppl, like Copernicus, Hevelius, Kosciushko, Pulaski, Bem, Maria Curie-Sklodovska, John Paul II, while economical basis was relatively weak), or
+ 3 xp for mounted units - one of the Poland's army main strengths in the course of XV-XVIII cnt. was excellent cavalry. It was a decisive factor in victories like Grunwald, Chocim, Kirchholm or Vienna. +3xp bonus would allow +1 promo, thus giving a nice kick for expansion, especially during middle ages and reneissance (historically accurate!), becoming obsolete in modern times.

My personal choice is +25% gpr as I am worried that Xp bonus would be great, but that too powerful. Any other ideas? Any foreigner opinions are welcome.

s.c.dude
Nov 16, 2006, 03:49 PM
here's what i think the stats for the hussar should be
Hussar
25%versus guns while attacking
25%versus pikes while attacking

offtopic does anyone know what my name means it's stanley,i keep being told it's polish

LDeska
Nov 20, 2006, 04:22 AM
Petition is going very well - over 800 votes already. If Firaxis will accept our idea, they will surely have to rethink husaria's bonuses :) For me 25% against guns and pikes while attacking sounds reasonable.
s.c.dude: Stanley is a germanic name, but sometimes Poles that have first name 'Stanisław' when they have to register in English-speaking countries, they register themselves as 'Stanley' (because it sounds similar and Stanisław contains Polish letter). Stanisław is an old Polish male first name, it is made of two words: 'stan' (state) and 'sława' (fame) so it roughly translates into 'to became famous'. Best known name holders: Stanisław August Poniatowski 1732-1798 last King of Poland and Great Prince of Lithuania, Stanisław Lem - writer (best known from science-fiction), Stanisław Franciszek Sosabowski - general paratroopers commander in Arnhem invasion in 1944.

polskadupa
Nov 25, 2006, 04:20 PM
Hey everyone, I’m new to the forum and I just wanted to say that I think this mod an great idea! The only problem that I’m facing is that it is for Warlord and not vanilla. So, I was wondering if there was any way to play this mod on the vanilla version. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!

Yeekim
Nov 27, 2006, 02:55 AM
Hi guys.

Poland sure is a nice addition to diversity.

I would say regional diet might provide some happiness and/or culture bonus - say +2 culture +1 happiness and be less effective than courthouse in terms of decreasing maintenance costs (- 40%?).
I am not TOO familiar with Polish history (have read Sienkiewicz's "Deluge" and "Crusaders" a few times), but I think the nation was leaning towards promotion of local autonomy and rights of local schlachta - thus promoting local happiness vs greater corruption and economical inefficiency.

+ 25% great ppl rate is downright crappy, + it copies the forum, while bonus to mounted somewhat copies Mongols - and would perhaps be a bit overpowering and not much to do with that particular UB.

You could, however, replace Hussars' 50% vs melee against 25% vs Melee (Pike?) and 25% vs Gunpowder, thus increasing their useful lifespan. They were, after all, the last Heavy Cavalry in Europe, not becoming obsolete against firearms, so that would be appropriate.

A bit offtopic, but above someone claimed, that Poland mostly fought defensive wars. Now, that only happened after they were the single largest country in entire Europe. It took something to get there :) What the heck was Bathory doing in Estonia in this case, then? ;)

Yeekim
Nov 27, 2006, 03:12 AM
Hi guys.

Poland sure is a nice addition to diversity.

I would say regional diet might provide some happiness and/or culture bonus - say +2 culture +1 happiness and be less effective than courthouse in terms of decreasing maintenance costs (- 40%?).
I am not TOO familiar with Polish history (have read Sienkiewicz's "Deluge" and "Crusaders" a few times), but I think the nation was leaning towards promotion of local autonomy and rights of local schlachta - thus promoting local happiness vs greater corruption and economical inefficiency.

+ 25% great ppl rate is downright crappy, + it copies the forum, while bonus to mounted somewhat copies Mongols - and would perhaps be a bit overpowering and not much to do with that particular UB.

You could, however, replace Hussars' 50% vs melee against 25% vs Melee (Pike?) and 25% vs Gunpowder, thus increasing their useful lifespan. They were, after all, the last Heavy Cavalry in Europe, not becoming obsolete against firearms, so that would be appropriate.

A bit offtopic, but above someone claimed, that Poland mostly fought defensive wars. Now, that only happened after they were the single largest country in entire Europe. It took something to get there :) What the heck was Bathory doing in Estonia in this case, then? ;)

Eskel
Nov 27, 2006, 02:38 PM
I would say regional diet might provide some happiness and/or culture bonus - say +2 culture +1 happiness and be less effective than courthouse in terms of decreasing maintenance costs (- 40%?).
I am not TOO familiar with Polish history (have read Sienkiewicz's "Deluge" and "Crusaders" a few times), but I think the nation was leaning towards promotion of local autonomy and rights of local schlachta - thus promoting local happiness vs greater corruption and economical inefficiency.

You are right, though I wouldnt cripple corthouse ability because of game balance. I think happiness/culture bonus alone while weaker and less significant than many other UB's bonuses will be just fine.


You could, however, replace Hussars' 50% vs melee against 25% vs Melee (Pike?) and 25% vs Gunpowder, thus increasing their useful lifespan. They were, after all, the last Heavy Cavalry in Europe, not becoming obsolete against firearms, so that would be appropriate.

Excellent idea. Less overpowered, and more counter-janissary unit, what is more historically accurate.


A bit offtopic, but above someone claimed, that Poland mostly fought defensive wars. Now, that only happened after they were the single largest country in entire Europe. It took something to get there :) What the heck was Bathory doing in Estonia in this case, then? ;)

Prussia (wars against Teutonic order), Kurland, Livonia, Estonia, Moldavia - there were all offensive war conducted in times of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. But there were aggressive wars before: Halitz Russia, Ruthenia, Kievan Rus, Moravia, Mishnia(Meissen), Lusitia(Lausitz).

Kazimierz Wielk
Dec 16, 2006, 04:20 PM
Czesc! Hey guys!

I have installed the latest version of the mod and it allows me to choose it at the begining and has the mod name in the upper right hand corner, but nowhere is Poland listed for me as a country to play. All the standard ones are there.

I placed it in my Civ IV/Warlords/Mods directory. Any ideas what might be causing the glitch on my end? I even autoupdated the game to v208 after it didn't work the first time.

Eskel
Dec 18, 2006, 01:07 PM
Czesc! Hey guys!

I have installed the latest version of the mod and it allows me to choose it at the begining and has the mod name in the upper right hand corner, but nowhere is Poland listed for me as a country to play. All the standard ones are there.

I placed it in my Civ IV/Warlords/Mods directory. Any ideas what might be causing the glitch on my end? I even autoupdated the game to v208 after it didn't work the first time.

I dont remember exactly, but there was sth wrong with folders.
You probably have to manually reorganize dir tree. It should look like:
\Civ4\Warlords\Mods\Poland - main mod catalogue, there [mod name].ini should be stored. It should also contain \Assets subfolder, readme, uninstall.exe and nothing more.

Guardian_PL
Dec 21, 2006, 06:00 AM
:woohoo: :D
What have You done?! I've just started to go out of Civ4 addiction and... My! I can finally play with my own nation! And even two leaders! OMG. Can't wait to finish work and spend happy evening with my civilization advancing on long-time foes :thumbsup: Hm... I think I'll take Monarch and kill some meat. :aargh: :ar15:
Thank You all, I'll post my thoughts about it when I'll see all.

Meanwhile, as for the traits...
We were protective, as far as the history goes. All our greatest victories (Grunwald, Kircholm or Vienna defence) were done to defend (well, we kicked some butts and gained some land, but it's because we were attacked, a lot of land gained was due to agreements/marriages of royal lines xP). Now, I know that for 80% players protective trait suck, so what I would recommend for future reference is to check this trait: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=196273 and maybe... Modify Protective? Is it possible at all? I like the idea with 20-30% strength increase in cultural borders, and/or 50% fortify bonus.
With cheap castles/walls from Protective we could make castles giving extra xp for mounted units - that would make polish cavalry significantly better in attacking (we had good cavalry during Grunwald battle too, so it goes smoothly to me with usefullness of castles - from Engineering (Grunwald, 1410) to Gunpowder (Vienna, 1683)). And that's it - we would have nice Protective civilization with ability to kick others with reeeally nice Knights, and also there is no need for brainstorming unique building for Poland.
These are just free thoughts, I'll write more this evening/tomorrow morning.
Thanks once again! :goodjob:
...

Basically, I think that there should be much, much much more civilizations to play than like 17 (I wasn't counting, but it's not much anyway). Firaxis guys are lazy buggers for sure... xP

Guardian_PL
Dec 22, 2006, 02:11 AM
Ok, so I've played it last night. Great fun, everything runs smoothly and I'm really happy - thank You! :goodjob:

Now, comments. (don't get me wrong, mod is perfect, these are just my opinions how to... improve)

- installer file is double-packed. First, one manually has to show proper path to Civ4/Warlord etc., then mod's name in load mod screen name is Polish Empire ver xxx, which is improper - all the data are inside, in "Poland" folder. So one has to manually put Poland folder into Mods and run once again through "Load a Mod" - the name of mod is Poland. Then after game reload finally there is new music, start screen and the rest - VERY nice!.
Eeeh, yeah, that took a bit of time :badcomp:

- Some changes happened that we don't know apparently - Cassimir is Protective and Organized, not Industrious. Also, Heavy Hussars have same staticstics, but also +25% against Gunpowder. Guess should be updated. (Darn! And I wanted go wonder-mad with him! Make Warsaw to build Great Wall!! :lol: )

- Graphics of Hussar are superb! But strangely amused me seeing the battle, when Hussars are basically lashing enemies with lances. No thrusts, just swings. With lances, hehehe :D

- Sobieski's animation is great, Cassimir is Brennus in disguise, maybe in far future some artist could make leaderhead so nice as the one of Sobieski's... Besides I liked Italicus's artwork too (His Sobieski should be more of a warrior silhouette)

Mod is GREAT and thank You for making so much fun for me :thanx: :hatsoff: :clap:

EDIT

Regional council has +10% commerce, courthouse function and +25% GG rate. Pretty interesting, but on what basis it's working? +25% in this particular city area?

Also, in Civilopedia entry about Poland there are some misspells, like Battle of Grv (should be Grunwald) etc.

Take care, all the best and Merry Christmas! :D

TheCabal
Feb 06, 2007, 04:41 PM
was looking forward all the time to play with poland, now I found this. great job! dzienkuje wam serdecznie!! :goodjob:


Greetings,
Cab
Jeszcze polska nie zginela! :king:

polskadupa
Feb 10, 2007, 05:22 PM
Is there anyway to animate the leader heads?

chaoskind
Feb 24, 2007, 05:46 PM
hello,

i have a problem with this Mod...
When i Load it.. the Menu Texts aren't shown .. so i wasn't able to "find" the Play Game button.., the Backgroundgraphic is shown etc. but no more..

I have Civ4 German Patched to 1.61 and Civ4Warlords German Patched to 2.08

i have Installed the Mod right into the Warlords/mods directory into the subfolder Poland.. and as i can see the new background graphic... i think there is a problem with the compatibility to the German version of Civ4/Civ4Warlords

can anyone help me out?!

thx in advance

Zaij
May 28, 2007, 04:37 AM
Heya, is there a zip version available of this? Everytime I run the install, i get an error

TheLastOne36
Jun 17, 2007, 12:47 PM
What's the UB?

LoD
Jun 17, 2007, 05:09 PM
Zaij: not at the moment, no. What OS are you using.

TheLastOne36: as you can read in the description at our site, it's a Regional Diet/Council.

Lance of Llanwy
Jun 25, 2007, 07:34 PM
I was going to PM you, but you apparently don't accept them, so I'll just post here.

Love your work. Looks well researched, and it certainly feels like a real civ, and by that I mean it integrates seamlessly with the "official" civs. I myself am planning a mod for BtS to include a variety of new civilizations, modify existing ones(such as new leaders, tweaking the balancing of UUs and UBs, etc. for greater historical flavor) and one the Civs I want to add is Poland. So, I was wondering if I could use your Poland if/when you make a BtS version. Here's the thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5604329#post5604329

siridar
Jul 15, 2007, 07:09 AM
Hello, are there any mirrors to download the mod, cause the main download links seem to be down :/

LoD
Jul 16, 2007, 03:53 AM
Lance of Llanwy: the current version was is a joint effort of the civ.org.pl team (AFAIR it doesn't use any code of Martinus's early version), so you should direct any inquiries to one of the active members of the team (myself, kodzi, asiox3 etc.). And yes, you may, as long as you give proper credit :).

sirdar: unfortunately the server that our site's is on has been probably DDoSed. We will have a replacement running by the end of this week, in the meantime, if you're that desperate of getting your fix ;), PM me your e-mail address and I'll send the file to you (check if you can accept mails of at least 30 megs).

siridar
Jul 16, 2007, 07:11 AM
While civ.org.pl is down it would be nice if someone would upload the mod on some popular file sharing sites and posted a link here. I can't wait to charge with hussars! The polish mod for Civ III was excellent (hussars were somewhat bit too powerful though) so I wonder how did You guys made it in Civ IV

LoD
Jul 19, 2007, 04:07 AM
Our site is up and running again!

siridar
Jul 19, 2007, 07:41 AM
I've made some alternative unit sounds - you can download them HERE (http://www.eclipse.org.pl/pliki/polunitsnd.zip)
Also the civ.org.pl team is allowed to include it in the mod if they'll like it.

TheLastOne36
Jul 22, 2007, 09:35 AM
One problem. I found out that after you get passed a few cities in the city list, it starts placing the whole code for the city name, not just the city name. I'll try to get a screen. are others having the same problem?

TheLastOne36
Jul 25, 2007, 03:13 PM
So will the Warlords version work with BTS???

Ishon
Jul 31, 2007, 10:13 AM
Guys, if we get it confirmed that this mod works with BtS, it would be a good idea to promote it in the BtS-Poland threads here. There are a lot of people who would replace the HRE with Poland if they only could. Actually some would replace it with any reasonable Civ, so why shouldn't it be Poland?

It's amazing to me that the WWII 1939 mod seems to be getting a higher priority now than the Polish civ for BtS.

TheLastOne36
Jul 31, 2007, 04:25 PM
It's amazing to me that the WWII 1939 mod seems to be getting a higher priority now than the Polish civ for BtS.

So that's why it's taking so long...

NikNaks
Aug 01, 2007, 12:42 AM
How many of you want this updated for BtS? I could do it if there's interest.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 01, 2007, 02:39 PM
If you do make it a module, That would be cool.

Ishon
Aug 03, 2007, 10:54 AM
I would not only get rid of the HRE if you could update this, but also I'd try to promote it as a Recommended Replacement for the HRE.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 03, 2007, 12:09 PM
Why replace anything? Make it a module and you could combine it with any mod. Thats one of the coolest features of BtS.

Qiforp
Aug 03, 2007, 06:06 PM
Our site is up and running again!


But when? Tomorrow? After week? When? Du you really can't upload the mod on file sharing sites? Please

Aetius_PL
Aug 04, 2007, 11:28 AM
civ.org.pl seems to be dead :/

Does anyone have this mod and could host it, or send to me via email? I would be very gratefull.

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 04, 2007, 12:07 PM
I hope someone could send it here so a BTS module version could be made. Imagine being able to play as Poland in any mod!

Qiforp
Aug 05, 2007, 01:00 PM
I hope someone could send it here so a BTS module version could be made. Imagine being able to play as Poland in any mod!

That is a very good idea but i dont see any respond :(

Crackstar
Aug 06, 2007, 06:27 AM
BTS PLZ Polish POWER!!

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 06, 2007, 12:55 PM
That is a very good idea but i dont see any respond :(

I know that is troubling....

TheLastOne36
Aug 06, 2007, 05:32 PM
well i hope you speed things up! i'm tired of waiting to start a game with germany and russia and beating the **** out of them.... :)

Qiforp
Aug 07, 2007, 05:46 AM
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Pol&type=Civ4&section=Mody

That site is working we can download this mod.

hewhocaves
Aug 10, 2007, 11:18 AM
I think the mod there is for 'warlords'. correct me if im wrong, though.

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 02:44 AM
I'm working on a BtS Modular version, including all the units recently created by danrell.

asioasioasio
Aug 13, 2007, 04:17 AM
convertion from warlords is done - it's in phase of testing. I hope hewhocaves will publish it soon.

Working on exclusive version of mod will stil take some time.

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 04:41 AM
I'm uploading the modular BtS version now.

Download it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6694)

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 13, 2007, 06:11 AM
Wow thanks for doing this! :goodjob:

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 06:14 AM
No problem. I had to leave some things out for compatibility reasons as you'll see in the info included on the download page, but otherwise I'm really pleased with it

asioasioasio
Aug 13, 2007, 06:16 AM
If it's ok i'll let to know on civ.org.pl :) Many ppl are waiting for this :)

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 06:42 AM
Sure :) I just remembered that I can put the building graphic in because the way buildings are handled changed in BtS. I'll patch it later.

LoD
Aug 13, 2007, 08:44 AM
In the meanwhile, hewhocaves' version has been added to our dowload's section:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods

Rael
Aug 13, 2007, 09:09 AM
Here's my 2 grosze:

I think Hussars for BtS should replace cuirassiers because that's the reneissance mounted unit now and Hussars appeared around that era in Civ terms. Since the anti-melee bonus is already used it should simply get STR15 but no withdrawal chance (it was a heavy cavalry unlike cuirassiers). That shouldn't be overpowered because it's very similar to the advantage of Cataphracts over regular Knights Also in my opinion Regional Council sounds very unoriginal and should be renamed to Sejmik or even Seymik (so people know how to pronounce it). With all the Barays and Hammams this seems the right name.

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 09:15 AM
I re-named it to Sejmik in my version. Should a Cuirassier Hussar carry a gun?

NikNaks
Aug 13, 2007, 09:54 AM
I just added an update fixing the Sejmik graphic and folder structure. Please re-install if you downloaded the module already.

Download the new version here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6694)

Ahwaric
Aug 13, 2007, 03:34 PM
I have been working for my own version of this mod for some time. I finished it today and uploaded it.
It is for BtS, and I made some changes to the original mod.

You can find it here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5815725#post5815725

Fell free to try it and tell me what you think :)

Sword_Of_Geddon
Aug 13, 2007, 05:23 PM
I just added an update fixing the Sejmik graphic and folder structure. Please re-install if you downloaded the module already.

Download the new version here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6694)

You should open up a new thread for yours as well Niks methinks.

Ahwaric
Aug 14, 2007, 01:55 AM
That is what I did. That is where link in my previous post leads :)
I only posted here to inform people that I did my version of this mod.

NikNaks
Aug 14, 2007, 04:16 AM
Will do. I've got some more modularizing I need to do, so 0.8 will be released later. Then I'll make a new thread.

EDIT: New thread made here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5818109#post5818109)

hewhocaves
Aug 18, 2007, 04:55 PM
In the meanwhile, hewhocaves' version has been added to our dowload's section:
http://www.civ.org.pl/downloads.php?lang=Eng&type=Civ4&section=Mods

so the funny thing is - this was my first public mod ever :-) But, I had some free time...

Anyway, in the mod I kicked up the Hussars' combat to 12 because the Byzantines' cataphracts (knights) were 12. Fair's fair.. :-)

John

TheLastOne36
Aug 19, 2007, 07:14 AM
To bad there's no realistic Hussar kicking Cossack action... :( but fair enough, i can't have a OP knight now can i? :p

diskurs
Aug 20, 2007, 03:02 PM
Woohoo...thanks for the mod! :goodjob:

I finally know who to blitz from my maps now. :nuke: Now I only need to decide to play as Russia or Germany against Poland. :lol:

ump
Sep 15, 2007, 09:33 PM
czesc,

How do I make the mod 24 player compatible? I'm a bit of a newbie to this editing business... dzieki

Neosaintjimmy
Jun 12, 2011, 03:47 AM
Sorry, but i'm a tech idiot... What does "unzip" mean, And how do I do it? Thanks.

The_J
Jun 12, 2011, 08:19 AM
The file you've downloaded is a .zip file.
That means, it's smaller than normal, but you can't use it in that way, it's compressed.
You have to install Winzip (http://www.winzip.com/) (no payment needed), and afterwards you can rightclick on the file and click on "unzip here" (or similar). That will create a folder out of the .zip file, which has all the really needed stuff in it.

And welcome to CFC :).

Farsight
Jun 15, 2011, 11:26 AM
Shouldn't the Heavy Hussar replace the Cuirassier?

NikNaks
Jun 15, 2011, 12:00 PM
Shouldn't the Heavy Hussar replace the Cuirassier?

When I updated this to BtS (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5818109#post5818109), I provided a version that does just that. :D It may need to be fixed for the latest patch, and I believe there are newer ones around, too, but try it out, nonetheless.

MaDaro
Oct 23, 2013, 02:16 PM
Finally! Poland! TIME FOR REVENGE BISMARCK