The game's supposed to come out in the following months. Basically it's a game that will look somejow to baldur's gate (since it's the same developper). So we can expect many character class, and the multiplayer will probably be wonderful. Beautiful graphic will complete the thing. Take a look on their site if it interests you :

http://www.bioware.com/games/neverwinter_nights/

Some of the features :

-Will allow up to 64 people in the same game in multiplayer
-Many many character class
-Wonderful graphics

I'm awaiting this game almost the same as I was waiting for Civ3. Hope you will enjoy their site. :D

How's it going Unknown Soldier.
Here are some links that contain discussion on this forum about Neverwinter nights:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4258&highlight=neverwinter
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4258&highlight=neverwinter
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6250&highlight=neverwinter

I was thinking of starting this thread up also but I am glad someone else did so people don't just think I love to open new threads. ;)

I can't wait for the damn game. I plan to run a server and have a few friends that will deffinately play one of them being a paper and pencil 3e D&D DM (I also have DMed but like playing better, who knows, NWN might make me love DMing).
The designers are saying Winter 2001 is release date with the winter extending to the end of March 2002.

I plan to run a server
:eek:

How about giving me some of your money for a decend Internet connection so I can run one too ;)

Im also looking forward to playing this game, but i am still pissed off at Bioware for abandoning the awesome infinity engine!:mad:

Originally posted by Mikoyan
Im also looking forward to playing this game, but i am still pissed off at Bioware for abandoning the awesome infinity engine!:mad: What was this engine used in or supposed to have been used in?

The Infinity Engine was first used in Baldur's Gate (1998) and Icewind Dale (2000), and a much better and nicer looking version was used in Baldur's Gate II (2000) and Throne of Bhaal (2001), it was quite easy to use, and it looked really cool! When i saw the Screenshots from NWN and read that Bioware will abandon the Infinity engine i got quite mad! :mad:
http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/images/photo/big/020102-nature.jpg
http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/images/photo/big/020110-truth.jpg

lol?

That crappy old BG Engine would have drawn NWN back into the abyss where Ultima Online once came from. The NWN Engine is simply awesome! Just d/l the E3 2000 movie (280 MB) and watch it! (not the 2001 because it's recorded off a screen with a cheap cam and quite bad quality).


http://www.neverwinternights.de/images/gallery/ss2001102905.jpg

http://www.neverwinternights.de/images/gallery/ss2001102907.jpg

http://www.neverwinternights.de/images/gallery/ss2001102909.jpg

http://www.neverwinternights.de/images/gallery/ss2001081005.jpg

Yuck, i think im gonna be sick!
It does'nt all hang on the graphics, and i doubt those super-graphics will work on my computer. Infinity 4-Ever.
P.S Ultima Online kicks ass.

It does'nt all hang on the graphics,
Sure, that's why you started complaining about the NWN engine...

Originally posted by DaEezT

Sure, that's why you started complaining about the NWN engine...
Im complaining because the graphics are way too complex to possibly run on my computer (PII 333Mhz), and that those flashy graphics are'nt very appealing to me.
If you want to try out REAL RPG's, check out some on this site:
www.spiderwebsoftware.com

If I want to play a REAL RPG I take out my character sheet and play D&D with my friends.

And with NWN's ability to have DM control monsters & NPCs in realtime anytime during the game and with the included editor NWN is the closest you get to real RPG feeling on a PC.

If I want to play a REAL RPG I take out my character sheet and play D&D with my friends.

This is certainly true. Even though I have enjoyed many computer RPG's, in terms of roleplaying they don't hold a candle to the real thing. Even the great ones like BGII and Fallout II aren't really roleplaying.

Perhaps NWN will be different with DM control, but even then, I suspect that there will be much that the system lacks. I probably still won't be able to fly or teleport. I also won't be able to use my magic missle to trigger a rockslide. And one of these days I'd like to be able to own a horse and crush some blighter's skull with my horseman's mace.

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to it, but I figure that we are still a long way away from true computer role-playing. Hats off though to those who keep advancing the art. We've come a long way from Bard's Tale.:D

Even the great ones like BGII and Fallout II aren't really roleplaying.


For me the only true RPGs (other than Pen & Paper) are Fallout 2 followed by Fallout 1. Soon NWN will take place 1 ;)

Baldurs Gate is more an Action Adventure than an RPG for me. They simply raped and drowned the rules till they had a Diablo with an AD&D stamp on it.

I've changed my mind about the NWN graphics, i looked and the minimum reqs will be PII 300 (yay), and DaEezT, have you ever even played Baldur's Gate? Because, i started playing the first one a few summers ago, and i got hooked directly, and that thing you said about 'raping and drowning' the Dee-a-blo rules is just bull. Diablo is NOTHING like BG, truth is, i think its kinda boring too, WAY too much hack n' slash:rolleyes: .

Originally posted by DaEezT


For me the only true RPGs (other than Pen & Paper) are Fallout 2 followed by Fallout 1. Soon NWN will take place 1 ;)

Baldurs Gate is more an Action Adventure than an RPG for me. They simply raped and drowned the rules till they had a Diablo with an AD&D stamp on it.

I have to respectfully disagree with that. I found there to be a much greater depth of story and character development with BG than with Diablo. Diable was just a dungeon hack. A good one to be sure, but no more than that. The story and your ability to affect it puts BG ahead in my book.

I do agree that Fallout had more options for character development and ways to solve problems, and thus as a RPG game comes closer to being a true role-playing game, but it still has a long way to go to get there.

I would like to discuss another of the great features that will be included with this game. The editor.

Bioware is going to put an editor with the game, so you will be able to create your own Maps, Npc, Quest and even create new Objects. I think it's a great idea, since it will add a lot of replayability to the game, allowing to do new things, get new objects/quest maybe each week. That will be great, and added to the possibility of playing 64 :eek: (I'm really struck by the possibility of this number of player in a single game)

I just got baldur's gate today from a friend (I'm a real newbie at RPG) so I think I'll be able to survive for a week or two... Maybe... *sigh*

Originally posted by Unknown soldier
I would like to discuss another of the great features that will be included with this game. The editor.

Bioware is going to put an editor with the game, so you will be able to create your own Maps, Npc, Quest and even create new Objects. I think it's a great idea, since it will add a lot of replayability to the game, allowing to do new things, get new objects/quest maybe each week. That will be great, and added to the possibility of playing 64 :eek: (I'm really struck by the possibility of this number of player in a single game)

I just got baldur's gate today from a friend (I'm a real newbie at RPG) so I think I'll be able to survive for a week or two... Maybe... *sigh* I would be extremely suprised if they didn't include an editor. I just hope it is going to be powerful but at the same time easy to use. Could you imagine the game being release without and editor. There goes the whole game basically b/c it has been hyped up as hugely expandable and the "DM" spot has been big hype also. I just hope we don't get dissapointed. (*crosses fingers*)

I personally didn't like BG, found the combat too difficult. Might have been b/c I played a Mage and kept getting killed....

And to the magic missle.....they don't hit inanimate things (at least they didn't in 2e, I can't memeber about 3e).

Also, a recent RPG I like is Wizardry 8. You probably don't want to look at it Miko as a 300MHz PC shouldn't even dream of such a thing. ;)

Originally posted by Mikoyan
I've changed my mind about the NWN graphics, i looked and the minimum reqs will be PII 300 (yay), and DaEezT, have you ever even played Baldur's Gate? Because, i started playing the first one a few summers ago, and i got hooked directly, and that thing you said about 'raping and drowning' the Dee-a-blo rules is just bull. Diablo is NOTHING like BG, truth is, i think its kinda boring too, WAY too much hack n' slash:rolleyes: .


I finished BG 1 and played BG2, but I sold it after playing about half to 2/3 of it because it was so damn boring.
I already said it all in another thread so I just say one fact: Fallout 2 has 6 combat and 12 (= twice as many) non combat skills and also perks like empathy which only help you while talking with ppl and other perks (explorer, kamasutra master etc) that don't even have the slightest connection to combat while in BG you can't even use charm to get information out of ppl.

And to the magic missle.....they don't hit inanimate things (at least they didn't in 2e, I can't memeber about 3e).

Perhaps true, but I remember somewhere reading of this as a good example of using spells creatively. It might have been in a first edition book, or even in regular D&D (From way back in the day).

My point is simply that computer RPGs are still a long way from being able to replace pen and paper. Once again though, I do enjoy them.

in case anyone is interested, infogrames is the publisher, and the game is to be released summer 2002. press release (http://www.infogrames.com/corp_pressreleases.php?op=story&sid=223)

Originally posted by ColdWizard
in case anyone is interested, infogrames is the publisher, and the game is to be released summer 2002. press release (http://www.infogrames.com/corp_pressreleases.php?op=story&sid=223) Good and bad. Good because it will be published by someone. Good and Bad because it is being published by Infogrames it will be put out whether it is ready or not. Bad it got pushed back even further. ;)

hopefully it being pushed back means that infogreed won't rush it out half-assed and unfinished...

Originally posted by ColdWizard
hopefully it being pushed back means that infogreed won't rush it out half-assed and unfinished... I seriously doubt that. It just means that there is now a serious release date as I don't see them backing it up again for something like not being done. :)

hey, stop ruining my unrealistic hopes will ya? :mad:

Perhaps NWN will be different with DM control, but even then, I suspect that there will be much that the system lacks. I probably still won't be able to fly or teleport. I also won't be able to use my magic missle to trigger a rockslide. And one of these days I'd like to be able to own a horse and crush some blighter's skull with my horseman's mace

You can actually make a magic missle trigger a rockslide. Just script it. The force in NWN will be the scripting system. Almost anything is possible. But no, flying, swimming, riding and climbing (unless scripted) aren't in - which sucks big time!

And i agree that nothing can beat PnP games

New stuff on www.neverwinternights.com . They now have a model viewer program and the beta release of the tool set for the DM!!!!! They released a working beta for making parts of the game, including making scripts before the game is even finished! It is simply amazing...now, why couldn't Firaxis produce a completed one at game release? ;)

Download the files from links on this page:
http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/index.html
Also, the tool set is 200+ MB so have a fast connection or get getright :D

Oh, poor Firaxis, the butt of so many jokes. :D

Unknown soldier has created a forum for Neverwinter Nights. I encourage all of you to sign on it. I am also looking forward to the game. Looks really cool, especially with the new screenshots. The forum is at http://membres.lycos.fr/neverwinterworld/fora/index.php. The main page, currently under development is at http://membres.lycos.fr/neverwinterworld

I just signed up at Soda's fora, but unfortunately I used my palehorse76@civfanatics.net email address which I can not get to while at work so I cannot post yet!!!! :(

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
And to the magic missle.....they don't hit inanimate things (at least they didn't in 2e, I can't memeber about 3e).



MMs can hit anything you can see. How much damage they do is another matter - I'm not sure you could use it to trigger a rock slide because they have no force to them.

Sorry, this is OT. I really enjoyed BG (and have just started BG2) but nothing can compare with real role-playing - you just can't get the options in a computer game. In the end they are always going to major on the combat and the puzzle solving, so the character development is going to take a back seat. As for the pizza eating and gratuitous film quotes...

Good point Supernaut. Yeah, in 2e the MM would hit but since it caused no damage and had no effect on unliving material the rock slide would not be caused. I still haven't looked at the 3e rules.

Cool thing happened today. I got my 10 year old brother to play D&D 3e. He actually asked me to play. It all stemed from me yelling at my cat for playing with one of my dice. He asked me what it was for. When I told him he got all excited and we made up a character and played a bit. He made a Paladin. Longo the Paladin, avenging his family's death by killing all evil Goblins!! I am playing a 3 foot halfling Bard that is following him around to create great stories of Longo and his adventures. He is goign to be spending the entire summer over at my house....this could be fun!!:)

June 19th is the release date.
It is possible to pick up the game cheat book and the world builder book at a lot of store a this time.
The store where I go shopping said that they are not allowed to sell the World builder until the game is sold but they can sell the cheat book now. :crazyeye:

8 freaking hours!! WooHoo! This is almost as good as when Civ3 came out. :D

Got NWN and I like it. :) The single player is very good. I have not tried MP yet. Anyone else got it?

Just wait a couple of days PH... I should be able to get it before the weekend... I might get some time to play friday or saturday if you want to... I just can't wait anymore :D In fact, who knows, maybe I could try to the nearest store today :D

Edit: Well I just looked, and it seems it's not available yet... But the worst thing is the price... 85$ :eek: I'm not even sure I'm going to buy it anymore... I might just can't afford it :( :mad: :cry:

I will probably get it at some point...

Damn it, 3 cds it takes.... fortunately Swedish people are nice and well equipped :D

Originally posted by Unknown soldier
Edit: Well I just looked, and it seems it's not available yet... But the worst thing is the price... 85$ :eek: I'm not even sure I'm going to buy it anymore... I might just can't afford it :( :mad: :cry: Is that $85 CAN? I bought it for $55 American which is 5 dollars more than normal, plus the thing is in one of those super small boxes.

Charge more give less box. Gotta love capitalsits!:D

Yes, I looked over a couple of sites, and it's definitely 85 bucks... Really good when you think that bioware is a Canadian company :rolleyes: I thought we would get some rebate because we're from the same country, but "no!"... Greedy capitalists ;)

I'll probably have to sue someone to buy that game!! Or maybe ask for money to my parents :D

Update : I won't get the game anytime soon... This dirty program doesn't support 3dfx cards, so I'll have to wait either for some new driver made by crazy guys that really want to play the game with their 3dfx card or to have the money to buy a new card... That means I'll have to see all those screenies, and all those people having fun playing the game while I wait for a new card :cry:

It didn't cost me that much for that game. Strange. ;)

Yeah, "stealing is super".

No, buying it in a store that sells old used games is super.
In civilized countries, there's a nice system. You take your old game, go there and ask the owner to sell it for you. And other people might be interested by your old games.

Mmm.... I'm buying this as soon as the stores open tomorrow.

What I get for living in a cave for a week. I missed a GREAT GAME RELEASE!
Unfortunately, my system barely exceeds minimum requirements :(

NWN is very fun:)

have fun everyone playing it.

I enjoy it, I just wish I could find more time to play it.

Still plugging away at NWN....wishing the camera would adjust more but I have myself pretty much adjusted to it. :D

When I get more time...after I finish the SP game, I will start to develop modules...that looks fun, if a bit difficult.

Soda's (Unknown Soldier's) web site is gearing up for an overhaul. Check it out.

http://membres.lycos.fr/neverwinterworld/fora/