I was just wondering what everyones opinion on certain AI players is? The two AI i hate most are Genghis Khan:mad: , because he will never stop attacking me, and Washington, because he can get such a powerful tech lead.

I hate Napoleon because he's always on my case.
Montezuma can't be trusted. Ever.
Catherine in my current game hates me guts (-18).

The only leaders/Civs I usually have good relations with are Washington, Isabella and either leader for the Mongols.

Where´s the poll? ;)

I don´t like the leader of Mali, because he can´t be trusted, same goes for Caesar and especially Isabella. Sooner or later they will try to invade me, no matter how good orur relations were before.

I normally have good relations to the americans and trust them to a great extent (no matter if Washington or Roosevelt is the leader)

There's a poll somewhere. I think Isabella was leading. Montezuma and Tokugawa were also high, the rest were far behind.

In all previous versions of Civ, I always had problems with the French...:mad:

until I found a solution.... :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

In Civ IV, I'd say Isabella and Montezuma tend to be the biggest pains. :ar15:

Bloody Montezuma always starting right next to me, except in my latest game where he starts off right next to Japan, those should get on like a house on fire :lol:

This might sound strange , but I like being next to Monezuma or Alexender > that way they start a war with me first and I dont look bad to the other AI instead if I started a war.

Just let them throw those useless and stupid attacks at you , you have the defensive advantage anyway on your own soil. Then once they start running out of troops hit them hard with a counter attack. Works everytime , suddenly they're wanting peace after I've captured their most productive and close city right on my border.

I dont like AI that will never attack , because then if you start a war , you get the red minus - 'you attacked our friend' from everyone else.

Just attack sooner, before they can make friends. :D

Peter. I hate Peter.

I hate all of the smart AIs. The aggresive ones are usually backwards technologically so I just laugh when they declare war on me with their ancient units.

Any of the Creative civs; I hate it when I built a city 50 turns ago, and they plop one down right on my borders and steal away a resource in it's radius. A 10-culture city shouldn't be able to take resources away from a 200-culture city...

I can't stand Catherine, not for any gameplay reason as none have really stood out as being more annoying than another but because she slaps you during trade. I consider this completely out of character for Civ and for leaders in general.

Actually I'm pretty annoyed by the entire affair, the motions they make are too short in cycle and thus become very repeative, very quick.

Also Cathy is too Tomb Raider-ish. The 90s called Firaxis, they want their fat lips back, also all those boys grew up and are now playing GTA, not Civ give it another 10 years. :P

I dont like Saladin. The way he strokes his beard just bugs me. And he attacks me for no good reason.

You guys are crazy. I've been attacked in ONE game by Ghengis, and it was mostly due to me boxing him in with aggressive settling. He's usually my best or second best ally.

On the other hand, Tokugawa and Isabella are ALWAYS beligerant. They never play a smart game, and never win (okay, Isabella dominated the big continent in one game). They usually war too much, and get attacked by a second nation which leaves them with few cities.

Isabella is a pain, because she will always attack sooner or later, and she's usually not the Civ I want to attack... :D

Alexander, Montezuma and Isabella tend to be pains in my buttocks every game they're in.

Montezuma. I snarl every time I find out that he is in my game .. which has been every single game thus far. I don't believe I have ever had him anything but annoyed or furious with me.

Napoleon. I really hate him. He is always a crappy little civ with an over-exaggerated sense of his own might. I have had a lot of fun destroying him.

isabella! declares on me for no reason every game!

I cannot stand Montezuma or Isabella... which makes it all the more enjoyable when i mop up the continent with them with my Praetorians.

Before Praetorians go obsolete, I usually can dispatch both Monty and 'bella, which makes the mid-game much more enjoyable...

something I like to do, though... if I really don't like a civ and I'm tired of him/her being in my games - the next game I play, I play AS that civilization and then I don't have to deal with them (myself?)...

the one game I played as Montezuma was on small/pangea (on warlord (yeah, I'm a n00b still)) and I rolled over everyone and won a conquest victory in the 14th century.

Peter. I hate Peter.

Isn't that a quote from Lorena Bobbitt?

I seem to have the worst luck against Catherine. At least with Montezuma (and other warmongers) you know what you're getting. It might change your desired strategy, but you know war is probably coming early. With Catherine, she always seems to find a way to be the thorn in my side.

Isabella is always a pain. She hates you if you don't share her religion and she always seems to declare war. The only game that I didn't have a problem with her was when we shared a continent. I Quechua rushed her butt.

I find Louis XIV to be a warmonger who makes annoying diplomacy demands.

Montezuma and Isabella seem to be the overriding favorites here. My take is for Isabella. Montezuma is easily defeated each time he attacks but Isabella is much more difficult for me. She is usually more advanced than Monty and her units have more promotions.

Mansu Musa (sp?) is my most hated of the Civ leaders. He has been in every game I have played (7+) and annoys me to no end. He hasn't done anything to deserve this really, he is never a challenge and he can be bullied into giving you everything he has. Yet I have always found a reason that he needs to be decimated.

The leaders that give me the hardest time so far have been Kubla Kahn and Catherine. They usually have large empires w/ a good military and decent techs.

Isabella is just annoying. She makes constant requests in diplomacy and usually ends up declaring war. She always ends up being wiped out. In my last game she was dogpiled by 4 of the 8 civs on the map.

I hate Huayna Capac. Even after he has been decimated he still sends his pilfering little army to be a pain in my butt. If I see him anywhere near by I begin an eradication process immediately.

Nice to see all the responses. It's also interesting how some AI's have patterns, but others sre different every time.

I hate Huayna Capac. Even after he has been decimated he still sends his pilfering little army to be a pain in my butt. If I see him anywhere near by I begin an eradication process immediately.

Ditto for Isabella. If I see her nearby, I will usually prep to attack her before she gets 'Guilds'. I lost to her UU in a previous game, not making that mistake again. ;)

i really can't stand Huayna Capac. it seems he is always near my civ, and he is just plain ugly. Every game sooner or later i have to kick is ass.

monte is very annoying too... Tokugawa can't be trusted.

I hate the mongol, espacially Genghis... I'm sure you all know why :rolleyes:

A lot of people seem to hate Izzy. She may be my favorite AI to have in the game. That's because she's so simple to understand. You either have her religion (and she loves you) or you don't (and she'll be coming after you sooner or later.) If I convert to Isabella's religion, I'll have a +10 modifier before the game is up. Last time I tried it, I think I had her declare about 6 wars for me. I'd have Isabella declare war on a civ, wait about 5 turns until that civ had sent its stacks after Izzy, then declare and send in my own. And since she was always fighting my wars for me, she was always behind technologically, giving me currency to buy her into the next war.

I think Monte might be my current most hated Civ, although I'm always happy when he attacks me in the ancient age. He always sends in a stack of those silly jaguars (might just be the worst UU in the game) that my axes can chew up.

Roosevelt and Washington. The Americans are always in my games, and it is starting to annoy me.

gotta love playing against gandhi, easy cities and hes almost certain to have founded two religions :D

I hate Saladin, does my nut :)

Its either alexander te gay or isabella.

my first few games Caesar was driving me nuts

but since then i've learned the truth.....Montezuma will never be happy...ever

from now on in all my games, if i find him...i'll put all my energy into eradicating him...if i lose the game to other civs because of it, well so be it....but the aztec threat must be silenced!!

I really don't mind having the warmongering AIs start near me. If they want a war then they can gladly have one. It's the more peaceful ones I don't particularly like, mainly Mansa and Gandhi, because by the time you've extened you're empire enough to make attacking worth while they either have a tech lead, or they hate you for declaring war on their friends and refuse to trade techs with you:mad:

For me its probably Asoka...just don't like the look of him, plus he always seems to make entirely unfair trade proposals. Its not downright hate, but everytime he calls up, I think "What, again!" ;)

I can't stand Catherine, not for any gameplay reason as none have really stood out as being more annoying than another but because she slaps you during trade. I consider this completely out of character for Civ and for leaders in general.

she doesn't only slap during trade ;-)

mansa musa...always has large tech lead...never fights...just sits there...most boring civ

I dislike Isabella, mostly because she doesn't care about anything but her religion. I think they made her way too religious

A lot of people seem to hate Izzy. She may be my favorite AI to have in the game. That's because she's so simple to understand. You either have her religion (and she loves you) or you don't (and she'll be coming after you sooner or later.)

This is very true. Took my first three games to figure this out for myself.

Someone said Catherine slaps you during trade. Did we mean this literally... like an animation? Or just that she's a pain to trade with? Cuz the first one seems kinda hot. :p

Yes, she actually slaps you with an animated slap if she dislikes your proposal

Izzy is mostly a problem for people who found their own religion, since Izzy
will most likely found something else (and hate your for it). If you see Izzy
early, it isn't a bad strategy to just adopt her religion, and take her terrritory
later in a surprise betrayal :-)

The AI I hate most ingame is Montezuma.. No matter what civilization I play as, he will, without fail, declare war on me before I even find his territory. He's often declared war on me twice before I finish researching classical age techs. By the end-game situations, he's declared enough wars on me that I begin to think he just may not like me. Due to the fact that he tends to declare war on me almost immediately following a scout finding me (or vice versa), I have tended to become an isolationist civ.. I dread searching outside anymore.. I know he's out to get me..

On the other side, I hate Napoleon for his rapid expansion tendencies, and I hate Isabella for being a snobby girl who throws tantrums each time she doesn't get what she wants. I just dont find it reasonable for her to demand I give her my entire treasury and tech's just because her name starts with 'I', and ends in 'sabella'.. Unless there's a better reason that I ain't seeing.

The AI I hate most ingame is Montezuma.. No matter what civilization I play as, he will, without fail, declare war on me before I even find his territory. He's often declared war on me twice before I finish researching classical age techs. By the end-game situations, he's declared enough wars on me that I begin to think he just may not like me. Due to the fact that he tends to declare war on me almost immediately following a scout finding me (or vice versa), I have tended to become an isolationist civ.. I dread searching outside anymore.. I know he's out to get me..

On the other side, I hate Napoleon for his rapid expansion tendencies, and I hate Isabella for being a snobby girl who throws tantrums each time she doesn't get what she wants. I just dont find it reasonable for her to demand I give her my entire treasury and tech's just because her name starts with 'I', and ends in 'sabella'.. Unless there's a better reason that I ain't seeing.

I finished a game recently where Monty was my ally. The key part was him adopting my religion. After that I got open borders and started to trade a lot.

I did keep a small army near his borders for the entire game because I knew he could surprise me, but he didn't. He really really liked me ;)

I think i hate Montezuna the most. But its hard to say...
I have no problem with Issabella. I like her really much. So much that it is her i always play :D

I really cant see why you all hate her :crazyeye:
Sometimes i also hate Ghandi because he hates war :D so i declear war on him :goodjob:

For me its Catherine. No matter how good our relations are, she'll never just give me anything, yet she constantly asks for Techs/resources. Her and Tokowaga are the exact same in this respect.

I hate AIs that ask me to join them in war against another civ, and the next turn they declare peace with that civ.

I hate stupid AIs that ask me to join them in war against a civ that I'm at a +15 with, when the civ asking me is at a -12. Um, hello? Just for that, say hello to Mr Modern Armor.

she doesn't only slap during trade ;-)

She's a drrrty grrrl.

Isabella.

In EVERY game I've played, she's attacked me.

I always have pleased or better terms with isabella...
you CAN actually work with her. You can't with Tokugawa or Montezuma

Isabella and Montezuma in the early game -- with Caesar a very close third. In the late game, Huyana Capac has been the bane of my existence....

Queen Isaputa and Monty. We hates them precious, oh yes.

Louis IV is always a jerk to me too. I always end up locking horns with him. Always.

Ironically, I almost always end up allied with Alex and/or Julius.