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Updated: August 7, 2007

:king: RULERS OF RUSSIA :queen:
Version 2.01 for Warlords 2.08+2.13
Version 1.41 for CIV 1.61+1.74

Index
1. Info
2. Pictures
3. Files and instructions


Rulers of Russia is a Civilization IV mod, that adds more elements of Russian history: leaders, great persons, cities. It also includes some components, which expand standard game options without altering gameplay itself.

Features


52 (26) new Russian rulers and Leo Tolstoy as a *Superleader*
50 Russian civ-specific Great Persons and 10 Great Generals (W)
201 names in Russian citylist
Gigantic Worlds (2 new mapsizes)
More Speeds (4 new gamespeeds from 200 to 6000 turns)
Main Screen Mod
AI Attitude Unfold and all 24 (W) civs dll (Blacksun's modcomps)


Leaders

Warlords: 55 Russian leaders cover all possible combinations of 11 traits.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//rrulers2_traitse_oq2.gif

Reference -W-
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//rrulers2_refe_lWG.gif

Vanilla CIV: 28 Russian leaders cover all possible combinations of 8 traits.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//rrulers_traitse_Rji.gif

Reference -C-
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//rrulers_refe_J7G.gif

Each leader has his own pair of traits and unique AI. That gives an oppotunity to play for Russia in a different style.
As a special feature this mod introduces Leo Tolstoy as a Russian *SuperLeader*. He has all 11 (8) traits available! :p

So, Play for Russia and Rule the World! http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rus.gif


CLASH OF RUSSIAS = still WiP
Info from v1.3

Clash of Russias mod also adds 5 new civs. Each of them represents a unique era of Russian History

1. Kievan Rus
UU: Vityaz (replaces Knight, -1 power, -10 cost)
Techs: Mysticism, Fishing
CityList (50): Kiev, Novgorod, Vladimir...

2. Muscovite Tsardom
UU: Streletz (replaces Musketman, + Сity Garrison 1, -5 cost)
Techs: Mysticism, Agriculture
CityList (50): Moscow, Tula, Tver...

3. Imperial Russia
UU: Cossack (Firaxis)
Techs: Agriculture, Hunting
CityList (50): St.Petersburg, Moscow, Kiev...

4. Soviet Union
UU: T-34 (replaces Tank, +2 power, +50% vs. Armors)
Techs: Mining, The Wheel
CityList (50): Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev...

5. Russian Federation
UU: Topol-M (replaces ICBM, -50 cost)
Techs: Mining, Hunting
CityList (50): Moscow, St.Petersburg, Nizhhy Novgorod...

Mod thread at Russian civ-community forum: http://forum.civfanatics.ru/index.php?showtopic=2657 (in Russian!)

Any feedback is welcome!

Pictures

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rrlogo_rus.jpg
Iliya Glazunov. Eternal Russia (1988)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/rr_logo_725.jpg
Evolution of the Russian Leadership (28 leaders of vanilla version)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//rrulers_menuc_LSX.jpg
Main Menu Screen

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rrulers_lmenu.jpg
Choose a leader. How about Ivan the Terrible? :crazyeye:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rr_tolstoy.jpg
Leo Tolstoy on War and Peace

More screenshots

All-Russian Historical Summit http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rus.gif (2nd summit coming soon!)

Pre-Imperial Section (http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rr_02.jpg)(12 members)

Imperial and Soviet Section (http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rr_03.jpg) (16 members and Leo Tolstoy as a speaker) Looks a bit crowded...

"Who is Mr.Putin?" (http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rrulers_05.jpg) (Pedia says..)

FILES

Warlords 2.08+2.13
Version 2.0 + patch 2.01 - Download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5804) (13m)

CIV 1.61+1.74
Version 1.4 + patch 1.41 - Download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5802) (10m)


Installation and Game

- Unpack to your [Civ4 path]\(Warlords\)Mods folder
- Game Menu: Advanced--Load a Mod--Rulers of Russia
- Use .bat file inside the mod folder to launch the mod directly!
- Check readme and documentation inside the mod Info folder


Сredits

Ghost' (Гость): hosting
Blacksun: SDK components
Shustraya: intro screen
Swan: russification standards
Sweeper: text coding utility
WALERA: ideas and suggestions

Art: Iliya Glazunov, Oksana Pavlova, Boris Olshansky
Music: Andrey Petrov


Have fun! :)
...but don't let fun have you :old:

Nice mod. Ivan the Awesome certainly should have been chosen over Catherine for the Vanilla, but it's good to see the last heir to the Byzantine Empire has been given recognition by someone ;)

You can also vote for Lenin and Stalin in Firaxis's Civ4 expantion questionare avalible at their website. They are diffinatly my top 2 most desired leaders!

How about the Empress Elizabeth. One of my favorites.

Maybe Lenin, but Stalin..ick.

http://publicist.n1.by/i/stalin_1942.jpg

Leif in 1942 Stalin was named "Man of the Year" (as a good person!) by Time Magazine. So, ...no "icks', please :D

Yes he brought Russia into the 20th centuary, but a good person I'm not comfortable calling him.

How about the Empress Elizabeth. One of my favorites.

Yes, I like Elizabeth, too. I think, one of the most glorious moments in the history of Russian Army is - cossacks in Berlin during 7Years War. But, you know, she is not so popular in Russia. I mean not so popular as Ivan The Terrible or Yaroslav The Wise, for example.

If you wish, check the poll about this mod at russian civ-community forum here (http://forum.civfanatics.ru/index.php?showtopic=2657) (Be warned: it's in Russian!;) ) Elizabeth is the only leader, who received no votes so far.

Anyway, I'm going to add Vladimir Putin next :king:

Yes, if I were living in 1942, I would call Stalin the Man of the Year as well, knowing that I had a common ally in the fight against Nazism. But in hindsight, it does seem offensive to have Stalin as a leader. It's not as bad as Hitler, but I'd rather not have to look at his ugly portrait for an entire game, if you know what I mean.

Leif Well, not many great people were really good. It's obvious, i suppose.

Hehe, seeing that website makes me wish I knew Russian instead of Arabic. ;)

Felzor It's up to you to decide, which portraits to look at in the game. I do not see any offence here.

Have you ever played Civ3 WW2 scenarios? They feature Hitler as a leader. Are you offenced by that? :D

Someone may just call it "a historical reality" ;)

You can probably see yourself, that in-game shot of Lenin is a bit wider than it should be. That is due to the fact that, while .dds files used are square (like 512*512), the game uses them to fit in a rectangular non-square window. I've found a solution with static leaderheads (and actually made those for all the default leaders) to look fine within game - the original image must be distorted in a way so that the game "fixes" it.

With 512*512, for example, the source image must be made 512 wide and 619 high, and then fitted into 512*512 frame, creating an image that looks ok in game, but somewhat "lower" than original out of game. I'm attaching a Stalin pic (happened to make it too) so that you can see for youself.

Leif Well, not many great people were really good. It's obvious, i suppose.
Great person? Great butcher, sooner...

Walter Hawkwood Yes, I am disappointed a little on this issue. So, thanks for the input. I'll use your advice to improve the in-game pictures. :thanx:

BTW, nice library of civ3 3d-leaderheads you have. I'm going to put my hands on some of your staff ;)

Yes, I like Elizabeth, too. I think, one of the most glorious moments in the history of Russian Army is - cossacks in Berlin during 7Years War. But, you know, she is not so popular in Russia. I mean not so popular as Ivan The Terrible or Yaroslav The Wise, for example.


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I wonder why? Maybe because she looked as good in men's cloths as women's? Or those thousands of dresses she had:p

I' m curious about something. Is it possible to have each leader have a different UU? When I think of Lenin, the Red Guards come to mind. When Stalin, Guard units, Shock Armies, and Artillery, (God of war to Russians), comes to mind.

Felzor It's up to you to decide, which portraits to look at in the game. I do not see any offence here.

Have you ever played Civ3 WW2 scenarios? They feature Hitler as a leader. Are you offenced by that? :D

Someone may just call it "a historical reality" ;)

And Hitler made Times MOTY on 1/2/1939.

Watch. here comes "That was a fluke! Stalin won twice. More decisive" ;)

You're right. Stalin was a terrible leader who had some good ideas, such as using the Orthodox church and nationalism to beat off Hitler.

Watch. here comes "That was a fluke! Stalin won twice. More decisive" ;)

:D :goodjob: Yeah, he did win twice. But his first "title", as well as Hitler's one, was negative. Take a look:

http://publicist.n1.by/i/stalin_1939.jpg

Anyway, this thread is about the game we play, not about Stalin's "greatness". I'm in no way going to be his advocate.

...I' m curious about something. Is it possible to have each leader have a different UU? When I think of Lenin, the Red Guards come to mind. When Stalin, Guard units, Shock Armies, and Artillery, (God of war to Russians), comes to mind.

Yes!! I thought about UU for leaders. "Commissar" unit for Lenin, T-34 for Stalin, Topol-M for Putin :nuke: It would be great, but...i'm not sure, if it is possible. :confused:

BTW, there is a funny idea to play a game - six the same Russian civilizations with different leaders. It's available through Custom Game menu and looks like that (http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rrulers_02.jpg) :king:

I'd never honor a mass murderer.

http://publicist.n1.by/i/stalin_1942.jpg

Leif in 1942 Stalin was named "Man of the Year" (as a good person!) by Time Magazine. So, ...no "icks', please :D

In 1938 Adolph Hitler was named "Man of the Year" as a good person who helped avoid a war. In fact, they considered him as "Person of the Century" (but not as a "good" person) in 1999, but decided not to because they feared people being too upset. Being named by Time's "Man/Person of the Year" does not make one great, only that they contributed the most to the headlines that year. Nixon, Clinton, and Bush all won multiple times. Do they also need to be leaders in the game?

Hmm....well....Sarnum, i'm just happy that your first post at CFC is in this thread. :lol:

In 1938 Adolph Hitler was named "Man of the Year" as a good person who helped avoid a war...

Really? I'm not sure. It does not look like "a good person":

http://publicist.n1.by/i/hitler_1938.jpg

Back to the main point...

I think Great Leaders should be individuals who are considered "good" by their country of origin (culturally and historically) and widely believed to have benefited said country. For example, you would be extremely hard-pressed to find an American who would say that George Washington wasn't a "good" leader or didn't benefit America. This applies to 99% of the Vanilla Civ IV leaders. Notice that the Eygptian ruler is now Hatshepsut instead of Cleopatra. Why? Because whether or not Cleopatra was a good leader is debatable, but most historians and (I'm assuming) Egyptian culture consider Hatshepsut to be good. Also notice that Mao is a leader. Why? Because his power still reigns, and most people in China consider him to be a great leader and person. Most people in Russia, I hope, do NOT think Stalin was a good person and probably regret that sad, unfortunate era of their history--much in the same way most Americans regret leaders such as Hoover or Nixon. What American would want Hoover or Nixon as their country's Civ IV leader?!?

If you don't want Stalin in the game, there is no way you can justify having Mao or Genghis Khan either. Stalin killed untold millions of innocent people certainly. So did the others. Stalin however is an important historical figure. So if you have a 3rd or 4th Russian leader I think he is an acceptable choice. Just my opinion..

Reagarding Mao:

Chinese intellectuals elsewhere have similar feelings. In the West, the prevailing image of Mao is that of a megalomaniac -- evil on a par with modern despots such as Joseph Stalin. Australian academic Anita Chan suggests Mao is revered in China because people are ignorant of history. "Mao is still so popular just because there hasn't been enough academic discourse to do away with the effects of his personality cult," she says. "Chinese society in general has looked too much into his achievements during the civil war, but has tended to forget his disastrous policies after 1949."

In fact, Chan may be slightly off the mark. Interviews with academics, artists and workers in China suggest that, rather than forgetting Mao's deeds, many are overdosed on remembering. Actors who have reprised the suffering and ignominy of the Cultural Revolution invariably speak of their work as a catharsis. They say tears for the camera are often real. But 20 years on, the danger is the catharsis may slip into self-pity.

Good read actually: http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/96/0906/cs1.html

Well, guys, have you ever heard of Civ1, made not by me, but by Sid Meier (TM) and Microprose Company? Do you remember, who was the only Russian leader in that game? The answer is "Stalin" ;)

...Most people in Russia, I hope, do NOT think Stalin was a good person and probably regret that sad, unfortunate era of their history...

Stalin was not a good person. He is responsible for many terrible things. It's obvious. BUT. Many people in Russia do respect Stalin just because he was the leader of the country in the most bloody war in the world history. He led Russia to the Victory in that real battle for survival. That's all.

Back to the main point...

Yes! I believe the main point of the thread is a mod, that adds some russian leaders to the game :)

If you don't want Stalin in the game, there is no way you can justify having Mao or Genghis Khan either. http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/96/0906/cs1.html

BTW emperor Qin Shi (second Chinese laeder) is of the same stock. Mass killings, perseqution of learned men, harsh laws etc. Anyway you are starving cities and destroying nations in the game. It's a game, don't take it too seriously.

...Anyway you are starving cities and destroying nations in the game. It's a game, don't take it too seriously.

Quite reasonable! :salute:

New Version - 1.2! :cool:

Features
- 10 new russian leaders
- full scale unique AI for each new leader
- civilopedia articles
- "Russian Leaders Only" random-map game option
- 100 russian cities

Check posts 1-3 for more info, pics and files!

I think I may have a problem with Alexander the 3rd. I think the designers might have left out the combination of industrious and philosophical for a reason. The power of producing wonders for great person points combined with the powers of philosophical may well be way too powerful. I dunno though, just a thought.

-- John

All leaders seem quite nice. But not Yeltsin! Never, NeverMind!

Stalin and Ivan the Terrible, the most prominent butchers, are leading...Curious, isn't it?

Many people in Russia do respect Stalin just because he was the leader of the country in the most bloody war in the world history. He led Russia to the Victory in that real battle for survival. That's all.

Actually, I'd say the most bloody war in the world history was WWI.
Also, it wasn't Russia to win the war but the Allies.

I voted for Mikhail Gorbachev btw. He is IMO a much better choice than Putin for a modern leader. Putin is as much financial for his country as Berlusconi for his... if you get what I mean ;)

Pacifism seems a little strange for Alexander II, as he wasn't exactly very peaceful. OTOH, Emancipation would be very good for him, IMHO, as he's the one responsible for the abolition of serfdom in Russia. He's called "the Liberator" (Tsar-Osvoboditel) for a reason.

Also, it wasn't Russia to win the war but the Allies.


Err yes the "Allies" did win the war, Russia being one of said "Allies" and when you consider that roughly 80% of German casualties were sustained on the eastern front, including most of their best formations and the German forces were already in retreat before the D-Day landings I would certainly give more credit to Russia than any other nation.

But that aside, it seems this is shaping up to include some really good leaders, that all russian random game is going to be a beauty for this Russophile. I dont think, all any version of the game that I have played any other civ except Russia. Keep up the good work.:goodjob:

Actually, I'd say the most bloody war in the world history was WWI.
Also, it wasn't Russia to win the war but the Allies.


And you would be wrong on both counts.

Here is a picture that should explain a few things:
Wars, Massacres and Atrocities of the Twentieth Century
Year-by-Year Death Toll:
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4584/killings6zm.gif
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/817/killing20hw.gif

.. how did you get these puictures in? I'm a complete novice at that and got scared seein that these are nif files that I don't have a prayer at creating. How do you make civ accept just that one static picture?

I use:
http://www.imageshack.us/

Good to use for posting SG pictures and such. You can resize it with imageshack but you can't edit the picture otherwise unless you use a program like photoshop.
Hope that helps. :)

.. how did you get these puictures in? I'm a complete novice at that and got scared seein that these are nif files that I don't have a prayer at creating. How do you make civ accept just that one static picture?
Welcome to CFC! :)

You should better look through a complete tutorial by Jecrell here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=144425


Actually, I'd say the most bloody war in the world history was WWI.
Also, it wasn't Russia to win the war but the Allies.
Read previuos posts by other guys. Probably, you'll find something new for you about WW2.



.. Putin is as much financial for his country as Berlusconi for his... if you get what I mean ;)
To be honest, no, i dont get what you mean.

Pacifism seems a little strange for Alexander II, as he wasn't exactly very peaceful. OTOH, Emancipation would be very good for him, IMHO, as he's the one responsible for the abolition of serfdom in Russia. He's called "the Liberator" (Tsar-Osvoboditel) for a reason.

Good point. Maybe I'll use your suggestion. My idea of giving him Pacifism as civic based mainly on russian peaceful external diplomacy in Europe after The Crimean War till 1877-78 war with Ottomans. But surely Pacifism is more suitable for Alexander III, called "The Peacemaker". ;)

And thanks again for your tip about the size of a picture before conversion to dds. I find it very useful.

Here is a good article on Putin's ex-economic advisor.
Putin was in part responsible for the Yukos Oil disaster.
The economist, a well respected financial publication apparently doesn't think to highly of Putin either.
http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901060109-1145201,00.html

As for Berlesconi:
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/9400/csu7688wj.gif

Berlusconi's legacy

What has gone wrong with the Italian economy, and how can it be put right? These are the main questions this survey will seek to answer. But it will do so in the context of Italy's unruly political scene. Silvio Berlusconi's centre-right government, elected in May 2001, seems likely to manage the rare feat of staying in office for a full term (ending next spring)—a first for a post-war government in Italy. Mr Berlusconi is immensely proud of this. But he has much less to be proud of when it comes to the economy. In his 2001 election campaign, he promised to apply the business acumen that had helped him to become Italy's richest man to make all Italians richer. This he has conspicuously failed to do.

The Economist's view of Mr Berlusconi is well known. We declared in April 2001 that he was unfit to lead Italy, because of the morass of legal cases brought against him at various stages of his business career and because of the conflicts of interest inherent in his ownership of Italy's three main private television channels. Almost five years on, he still faces legal problems (of which more later), and he has done little to resolve his conflicts of interest: indeed, because the government owns RAI, the state broadcaster, Mr Berlusconi now controls or influences some 90% of Italian terrestrial television (which does not stop him complaining about his critics on TV). Our verdict of April 2001 stands.

http://www.economist.com/surveys/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5164061

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But that aside, it seems this is shaping up to include some really good leaders, that all russian random game is going to be a beauty for this Russophile. I dont think, all any version of the game that I have played any other civ except Russia. Keep up the good work.:goodjob:

Thanks for support! :)

"All Russian game" really seems funny to me. For example, some quotes.
Ivan the Terrible to Catherine: "What may humble Russia do for the mighty Russia?")
Stalin about Lenin: "Lenin is all right as long as you keep an eye on him" (historically correct, i think)

I hope to make the mod more and more...russian;) , step by step.

As for Putin, main reason for giving him Financial trait was the stability, he brings to Russia, and financial stability as well, despite of YUKOS issue and some more issues of this kind.

Well I feel sorry for you if you don't get me NeverMind. I had read all posts before mine, and even though some posts in a forum won't make WW2 bloodier than WW1, I don't see what you meant anyways.

Well I feel sorry for you if you don't get me NeverMind. I had read all posts before mine, and even though some posts in a forum won't make WW2 bloodier than WW1, I don't see what you meant anyways.


Oh look this argument could go one for years and neither side would budge:lol: :cool: hmmm.....bit like 1917:mischief:

If you took it on numbers alone, well the Spanish Flu killed as many as WWI did, and WWII was responsible for around 30million or so more deaths, many of the civilian, most of them Russian. However if you are talking about the sheer viciousness and brutality of the actual fighting I think you would find them neck and neck.

Nevermind, more "Russian" is fine by me, just need to replace the tech quote mp3's from skanky ol' leonard to some nice sounding lady with a thick russian accent and i'll be in heaven.:D

No matter who wins in the all russian game, it'll still be the correct choice :lol:

Hee hee. I am maybe a little smart but I love Google. It really is a wonderful search engine. :)

Here is an excellent link on the subject:
Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

First World War (1914-18): 15 000 000
Russian Civil War (1917-22): 9 000 000
Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 000 000
Second World War (1937-45): 55 000 000
Chinese Civil War (1945-49): 2 500 000

Naturally these are all estimates and historians still argue over the exact amount but no one can deny the absolute horror of war. :(

I will agree however that even though World War two had many more deaths, the horrors of trench warfare must have been unbelievable. People literally drowning to death in mud. War World two however also had Nazi death camps and the totally inhumane treatment of war prisoners. So really, equally brutal in my opinion. Never again I say...

hmm

when you add up the deathtolls in ww2, you need to add all atrocities committed as well as combat deaths.
i think the ww2 average deaths per week (after all was said and done) was some where between 10,000 and 15,000. (please correct me)

ive heard as high as 75,000,000 if you throw in hitler, stalin, and east asia with the combat and bombing related casualties.

Yeah, the above number, and most other counts I've seen usually add in civilian casualties, the russian civilian casualties alone is phenomenal. If you explore the above link the total given including the sino-japanese war (remember teh war in asia strated a couple of years before that in europe) as around 85million, which to be honest is one of the larger i've ever seen, but i think that the war in asia is often overlooked for some bizarre reason.

Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

Nevermind, more "Russian" is fine by me, just need to replace the tech quote mp3's from skanky ol' leonard to some nice sounding lady with a thick russian accent and i'll be in heaven.:D

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it :D

Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

Hey, stas, it would be GREAT! But is it possible? As far as i know there is no one user-made 3d leaderhead yet.

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it :D

Best I can do you for is a couple different versions of the old ww2 song "Katyusha"


Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

I think it might still be just a pic, not the animated head, but 3d none the less....until the sdk is out

hmm, grinning monk, did you say that when china and japan where going thru all that hell in '37 that 85,000,000 people could have died? and if so, would we consider that a deathtoll of ww2 since the war never ended there until '45?

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it :D

Very, very simple. Go to any church. "Baba Etu" is "Отче наш". ;)

hmm, grinning monk, did you say that when china and japan where going thru all that hell in '37 that 85,000,000 people could have died? and if so, would we consider that a deathtoll of ww2 since the war never ended there until '45?

Well not me, just quoting the number in one of the sources on that link

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Second

That includes to '37-'45 asian war, the '39-'45 european war plus any and all miscellaneous democides so that is why it is a particularly large number, though maybe not a accurate account of 'war related' deaths, which is given elsewhere around the 55mill mark.

So many grey areas though, when you consider the amount of state secrecy in many of the belligerent nations, there is still much Soviet evidence that needs to come out imo so who really knows.

http://liturgy.ru/zvuk/zvuk.php

4 versions of said Отче наш here if that helps :D

Walter Hawkwood, GrinningMonk :goodjob: It turns out that we have a small russian speaking community here. It's a pleasure to see russian language at these boards. Спасибо! ;)

I think "Отче наш" and "Katyusha" will be included in the upcoming Rulers of Russia soundtrack. :band: :king:

Well to be honest i only undestand a little Russian, never kept up with my lessons really, but i try to take it back up :) too lazy i guess.

Hee hee. I am maybe a little smart but I love Google. It really is a wonderful search engine. :)

Here is an excellent link on the subject:
Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

First World War (1914-18): 15 000 000
Russian Civil War (1917-22): 9 000 000
Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 000 000
Second World War (1937-45): 55 000 000
Chinese Civil War (1945-49): 2 500 000

Naturally these are all estimates and historians still argue over the exact amount but no one can deny the absolute horror of war. :(

I will agree however that even though World War two had many more deaths, the horrors of trench warfare must have been unbelievable. People literally drowning to death in mud. War World two however also had Nazi death camps and the totally inhumane treatment of war prisoners. So really, equally brutal in my opinion. Never again I say...

It is kind of odd that for number of casualties, the American Civil War had more deaths relating to things such as starvation and other causes. WWII however did have the most wounded.

http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/other/stats/warcost.htm

It is kind of odd that for number of casualties, the American Civil War had more deaths relating to things such as starvation and other causes. WWII however did have the most wounded.

http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/other/stats/warcost.htm


I'm not sure I'm catching your drift here:blush: Which part is odd?

I had heard somewhere that Philosophical + Industrious was scrapped because it made a leader very powerful. So I figured I'd just mention that.

I don't think it's a problem since it's a single-player mod. You may сhoose Alexander III to make the game in some way easier, perhaps. But I played some games against Alexander III as AI and didn't notice any sign of his advantage over other AI players.

Here are Firaxis Civ4 26 Leaders:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/civ4leaders_traits.jpg


And this is my plan for next version of Rulers of Russia Mod:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rr28_traitse.jpg


Well, russian rulers never stop coming! :D

If you think of expanding the soundtrack, I'd say "Боже царя храни" ("God save the tsar") would be most appropriate. And maybe the Internationale for mosr Soviet leaders too.

And maybe the Internationale for mosr Soviet leaders too.

At the very least for Lenin:)

I will personally google the bejesus out of the internet for any music you may want.

And if you or anyone gets to the point of adding new improvements or wonders I would personally like to see the Lubyanka or Лубянка as a wonder, great for reducing war weariness and/or unhappiness by providing a place to beat dissenters to a pulp:goodjob:

Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 000 000


Did you add people killed in World War II to Stalin's regime victim? Number of GULAG prisoners is ten times less. And less than one million of them died or be executed in 1924-53 period.

At the very least for Lenin:)

I will personally google the bejesus out of the internet for any music you may want.

And if you or anyone gets to the point of adding new improvements or wonders I would personally like to see the Lubyanka or Лубянка as a wonder, great for reducing war weariness and/or unhappiness by providing a place to beat dissenters to a pulp:goodjob:

Think, it would be good to hear "Soyuz nerushimiy" when plaing as one of the soviet leaders.

I appreciate your input. Yes, Internationale for Lenin, "Soyuz nerushimyi" for other Soviet leaders, "Patriotic song" by Glinka for Yeltsin. "God, save the Tsar" for the last russian emperors.

A lot of music come to mind, but adding music would be the last step in making the mod, though not least. ;)

Thank you, I'm also Russian and I'm glad they are getting the attention they deserve.

Did you add people killed in World War II to Stalin's regime victim? Number of GULAG prisoners is ten times less. And less than one million of them died or be executed in 1924-53 period.

Well they are numbers from an external source and I havent had the time to go into them in depth to see what has accounted for that total. I beleive there were a lot of famine related deaths that were added into that cout which would increase the total exponetially. But as all things related to this period of Russian history, take all figures with a grain of salt, as I've seen variants of upto 50-60million for this same period. Go figure:blush:

I appreciate your input. Yes, Internationale for Lenin, "Soyuz nerushimyi" for other Soviet leaders, "Patriotic song" by Glinka for Yeltsin. "God, save the Tsar" for the last russian emperors.

A lot of music come to mind, but adding music would be the last step in making the mod, though not least.

I feel your pain, if I had any idea whatsoever on how to do any of this modding rigamaroll I would help you out, however until I do, or someone else jumps on the project I will accept anything yo can do with grace and thanks:goodjob:

Thank you, I'm also Russian and I'm glad they are getting the attention they deserve.

Thanks for support! :)

In this mod I pay as much attention to Russians as I can ;)

Here are Firaxis Civ4 26 Leaders:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/civ4leaders_traits.jpg


And this is my plan for next version of Rulers of Russia Mod:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rr28_traitse.jpg


Well, russian rulers never stop coming! :D
Hmmm just how are Yeltsin and Gorberchev Spritual?

I'm sorry if this has been asked, I don't have time to read through all the posts at the moment.

If I ran this mod, will the AI sometimes pick these added rulers for themselves during a normal game? I'm not completely interested in playing as them myself, but I'm all for adding more leaders as long as the AI will pick them. And I know you can play a game with just Russian rulers, but that's not what I'm interested in. If you need to have my question clarified, just say so. Thanks :D

Red Music
http://english.sovmusic.ru/

marxist songs in various languages
http://www.marxists.org/subject/art/music/

the internationale in 20+ languages
http://www.hymn.ru/internationale/index-en.html

I think that Lenin should have the internationale, or Trotsky if he ever makes it in the game. Stalin should have the USSR national anthem. But the last site is wonderful when it comes to the internationale.

my two cents.

I'm sorry if this has been asked, I don't have time to read through all the posts at the moment.

If I ran this mod, will the AI sometimes pick these added rulers for themselves during a normal game?...

Sure, it will, sometimes. If you play, to say, as Mali on a Small size map, you have 4/17 probability to play against Russia. And if so, the probality to play against added Russian leader is 5/6. :D

Anyway, you may choose all your opponents through Custom Game Menu.

Hmmm just how are Yeltsin and Gorberchev Spritual?

Hmm...Reasonable question ;) I have 28 leaders and 28 combinations of traits. It's not easy to make the choice, suitable both for historical and game logic. To be honest, Yeltsin was the last one in my list of leaders, so he got only two traits that have been still available. :king:

But, I could provide you with some explanations. The boom of construction of churches and other religious buildings began in Russia during Yeltsin's presidency. Beautiful Christ the Savior Cathedral in Moscow is a fine example of that.

http://www.galereia.ru/files/images/thumb_hram_hrista_spasitelia-220.jpg

As for Gorbachev, he is not a religious man, of course. But he is a man of spirit, if you know what I mean. Famous Wind Of Change by Scorpions is about him :)

Red Music
http://english.sovmusic.ru/

marxist songs in various languages
http://www.marxists.org/subject/art/music/

the internationale in 20+ languages
http://www.hymn.ru/internationale/index-en.html

I think that Lenin should have the internationale, or Trotsky if he ever makes it in the game. Stalin should have the USSR national anthem. But the last site is wonderful when it comes to the internationale.

my two cents.

sovmusic.ru is an exellent source of soviet patriotic songs, and hymn.ru is a great source for the history of russian national anthems. I don't know this marxist site, but I'll check it soon .

Thanks for the links! "Two Cents" are always welcome! :goodjob:

Somthing I just noticed, when are you going to change the flags and colors of the different leaders?

Kievan Rus

1. Olga The Saint
2. Svyatoslav The Brave
3. Vladimir I The Saint
4. Yaroslav The Wise
5. Vladimir Monomakh
6. Alexander Nevsky


http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/olga.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/svyatoslav.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/vladimir.jpg

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/yaroslav.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/monomakh.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/nevsky.jpg

Muscovite Tsardom

1. Ivan I Kalita
2. Dmitry Donskoy
3. Ivan III The Great
4. Ivan IV The Terrible
5. Boris Godunov
6. Aleksey Mikhailovich


http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/kalita.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/donskoy.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/ivan3.jpg

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/ivan4.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/godunov.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/aleksey.jpg

Imperial Russia

1. Peter I The Great
2. Elizabeth
3. Catherine II The Great
4. Alexander I The Blessed
5. Nikolay I
6. Alexander II The Liberator
7. Alexander III The Peacemaker
8. Nikolay II


http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/peter.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/yelizaveta.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/catherine.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/alexander1.jpg

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/nikolay1.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/alexander2.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/alexander3.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/nikolay2.jpg

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/pics/rrlogo_ussr.jpg
Iliya Glazunov. The Great Experiment (1990)

Soviet Union

1. Vladimir Lenin
2. Joseph Stalin
3. Nikita Khrushev
4. Leonid Brezhnev
5. Yury Andropov
6. Mikhail Gorbachev


http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/lenin.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/stalin.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/khrushev.jpg

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/brezhnev.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/andropov.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/gorbachev.jpg

Russian Federation

1. Boris Yeltsin
2. Vladimir Putin


http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/yeltsin.jpg http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/putin.jpg



and Leo Nickolaevich Tolstoy as an "independent" Russian *superleader* :king:

http://nm.civfanatics.ru/rrulers/leaders/tolstoy.jpg

Version 1.3 is here!:)

It adds 5 new civs, 26 new Russian rulers and Leo Tolstoy as a *Superleader*. You also have 4 variants of playing the mod.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/rr_tolstoy.jpg
;)

Check the first page of the thread for more info.

Hep ! You have forgotten Tchernenko betwen Andropov and Gorbatchev !

Oh, no! I'll never forget Konstantin Chernenko, believe me. Several monthes of his illness "leadership" was enough to make Gorbachev number one ;)

Anyway, there are 6 true Soviet leaders in the mod, and I think it's enough :D

Wow. This mod is great. An understatement, to be sure. Thanks for your hard work.

Crikey! How did I miss this update??!! D/L'ing right now.

Been trying to sort out this modding business to see if there was anything to add, started with adding new techs but so far it is eluding me lol. I'll get it sooner or later.

...Been trying to sort out this modding business to see if there was anything to add, started with adding new techs but so far it is eluding me lol. I'll get it sooner or later.

Don't even start modding civ4! It's too addictive! :D


Supreme Shogun, Thanks for support! :)

Great mod, really. But I do not understand why Tolstoy is here =)
Что здесь делает Толстой? =)

Hep ! You have forgotten Tchernenko betwen Andropov and Gorbatchev !
Here are not a lot of middle-ages' russian leaders, e.g. Andrey Bogolyubskiy and Vsevolod The Big Nest (Bolshoye Gnezdo). Here aren't Pavel I, early Romanovs. But they aren't important for the mod, just like Tchernenko

Great mod, really. But I do not understand why Tolstoy is here =)
Что здесь делает Толстой? =)

Hi! Always nice to see Russian faces here :) I'm glad you like the mod. Tolstoy is here, cause i can't find a better person for the role of the "Superleader". Sure, it's a bit crazy idea, but I consider Tolstoy to be the Greatest Russian in The World History and non-political person also. Короче, Толстой - наше все! :D

As for Andrey Bogolyubov, Vsevolod The Big Nest and Yury Dolgoruky, i have some plans about them ;)

NeverMind

:D
Don't know, what is 'superleader'?

Well finally had a game of the new version and just had to say good work.

I've been working on a couple of additions I may add to it when I figure it all out. Have one new tech Stalinism, which is 100% complete and am 75% finished with a related wonder "Five Year Plan" which I am trying to make by just experimenting with the files and looking at what other ppl have done with their mods.

If you are interested in adding it to your mod officially let me know.

GrinningMonk, Nice idea about "Five Year Plan" wonder! What are the prerequisites to "Stalinism" tech, btw?

My basic plan for the mod is just to replace as much "vanilla" game elements as i could. I'm not sure about adding new techs , wonders..etc. Maybe after basic work will be completed, if ever.

And I will be happy to use this tech to replace one of the existing, when we come to techs replacing phase. :)


...
Don't know, what is 'superleader'?

Every leader has two traits usually. But I gave Tolstoy all 8 traits, so I call him "Supeleader" ;)

Originally I had planned for only Communsim to be the required tech, but it didnt seem ot want to work unitl i also made Steam Power as another required tech, which works and seems to me to kinda fit in with the whole industrial feel, though I may change that to another tech as I play with it.

I'm sure that replacing techs is as much if not bigger hassle as creating new ones, and I'd be willing to have a look at it on my end and experiment. Just gotta come up with a lot of new concepts.

I still want my Lubyanka wonder, and there could be many others when I have a look through what literature i do have here (not being Russian, just a Russophile I have to rely on secondary sources for my idea) I wonder what a Brest Fortress or a Krondstadt wonder could do for one's military?

NeverMind
Adding new techs is really simple. It's simpler than adding new civs ;)
Believe me, I've tried.
Will you create some russian great people?

GrinningMonk
Russophile... That's really exciting! :)

Think, Sputnik-1 can be added as a Project

The Golden Gates of Kiev, the Isaak Cathedral, Dneproges probably can be added as Wonders.

:cool: Great job with this mod! The update looks fantastic! Good work!


PS I plan on creating a Cuba mod and I may add some of your Soviet leaders in the mix to keep the similar theme/flavor! This is one of the best mods though, very nice!

Lol all these Russians around here :) Anyone got a sister?http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6346/wiewwiew9dl.gif lol

AndyTerry

Keep giving me ideas, i'll do some research and see what i can come up with. When things are made i'll give it to anyone who's interested.

The Five year plan wonder is complete, though untested in a game (having that game right now) I tried reskinning the Ironworks wonder to represent it, the model shows in the pedia but the new skin doesnt, so now it shows as a big pink building lol.

Where is the download link?

post in thread

sorry meant to say third post in thread,

GrinningMonk
I have a sister, yes :) A cousin. She's a half belorussian =)

Sweet, kinda have a thing for Russian women :)

...
PS I plan on creating a Cuba mod and I may add some of your Soviet leaders in the mix to keep the similar theme/flavor! This is one of the best mods though, very nice!

Thanks for support! Feel free to use any elements of this mod in your mods. :)

Sweet, kinda have a thing for Russian women :)

The words of a true Russophile :D

GrinningMonk, AndyTerry

About Wonders. We have only one Russian Wonder in vanilla game. That's The Kremlin. What I plan to do in future - replace almost all "World Wonders" with "Russian Wonders". I mean rename them and use new pictures, at least. Examples:

Hoover Dam = DneproGES
Eiffel Tower = Ostankino Tower
...

I'll try to make full list of "vanilla" wonders and post it in this thread for "perestroyka" ;)

I prefer "Vladimir The Red Sun" instead of "Vladimir The Saint", also where are Ilia Muromets, Dobrinaya Nikitich and Alyosha Popovich? :)

avpavlov
They weren't leaders :)

Приятно увидеть соотечественника :)

GrinningMonk, AndyTerry

About Wonders. We have only one Russian Wonder in vanilla game. That's The Kremlin. What I plan to do in future - replace almost all "World Wonders" with "Russian Wonders". I mean rename them and use new pictures, at least. Examples:

Hoover Dam = DneproGES
Eiffel Tower = Ostankino Tower
...

I'll try to make full list of "vanilla" wonders and post it in this thread for "perestroyka" ;)


Isn't the Hermitage in St Petersburg?? I could be wrong.

GrinningMonk
You're right :)
Though the main building is called Winter Palace (Zimniy Dvorets)

...also where are Ilia Muromets, Dobrinaya Nikitich and Alyosha Popovich? :)

Here they are! :D

http://www.centre.smr.ru/images/pics/pic0282/pic0282_800.jpg
Victor Vasnetsov (1898)

GrinningMonk
You're right
Though the main building is called Winter Palace (Zimniy Dvorets)


Mmm thats what i thought :)

When I try to download this fantastic mod i only get one singel file after I have

extracted it. The files is called "CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization" And is in the folder

D:\Program\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Mods\Clash of

Russias\Assets\XML\art. Is there something wrong with the download or is it my

computer? Plz help my I'm kind of stuck.:cry: :confused:

I guess it was something wrong with your download. The size of the mod is more than 5 megs and there are many files inside the archive. Try to download it again. :)

It's a .rar file isn't it? Did you unzip with something other than winrar? I've noticed that sometimes when a rar file is unzipped with something like winace it drops a crap load of files, but htat could be my dodgy puter, or too much vodka...or not enough....i can never remember how that works...

Thx the problem was I that used winace (thats is so going to be deleted :D ) ones again thx

We appreciate our inclusion in this mod. :king:

Thank you very much, Your Grace! :lol:

The mod updated for patch 1.61. :king:

where is the download link for this? I cannot find it in this thread here.

The file is in the third post.

http://publicist.n1.by/i/stalin_1942.jpg

Leif in 1942 Stalin was named "Man of the Year" (as a good person!) by Time Magazine. So, ...no "icks', please :D

Time magasine, try to gues who is the man of year 1938?
http://www.nndb.com/people/197/000025122/
http://publicist.n1.by/i/hitler_1938.jpg

How many times has Bush been man of the year?

Nemesis']Time magasine, try to gues who is the man of year 1938?
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Time Magazine, again? Oh, no. Could someone make Time Magazine Mod? :D

PS. No need to guess. It has been already mentioned in this very thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3499707&postcount=26

Four monthes ago :rolleyes:

Would like to know if ay time frame o Clash of the Russias or any update to your mod...I love this mod am a big fan....looking forward to more Russian civ action...

No time frame, sorry. Вut I'm still very interested in making this mod more "russian", and now testing "one leader - one civ" version. Not much spare time to complete it soon, though.

And it's pleasure to see your interest in this mod :)

I can relate to not having much free time and am glad to see it is still a work in progress...Thanks again for a great mod...

Russia finally has a good leader again - Vladimir Putin. Maybe there is hope for Russia to pull itself out of the rubble once again. Good leaders combined with massive oil and natural gas reserves is a good combination.

I think that I would have to argue that Leon Trotsky would have made a better pick post Lenin than Stalin. But then again with Stalin's five year plans he produced a rapid industrial base in Russia that saved them from Nazi Germany. So while Leon Trotsky would have been a more freedom inspiring type of leader Stalin probably saved the entire nation.

I havn't heard to much about Putin, what do most native Russians think of him? Has he been good for the economy, unempolyment, etc..?

I tried to play this and I got nothing but XML errors till it crashed.
Is it because I'm using Warlords, and how can I fix this?

This mod is only for vanilla civ 1.61 so far. Warlords version is still WiP, though sometimes it's WiR :rolleyes:.

I think that I would have to argue that Leon Trotsky would have made a better pick post Lenin than Stalin. But then again with Stalin's five year plans he produced a rapid industrial base in Russia that saved them from Nazi Germany. So while Leon Trotsky would have been a more freedom inspiring type of leader Stalin probably saved the entire nation.

The general difference between them is Trotsky was obsessed by idea of World Revolution while Stalin understood craziness of this idea. Trotsky thought like man who has no motherland. Stalin was a patriot. Freedom is a strange thing. All the people have in mind different senses of that. Stalin liked soviet democracy but this is not the same democracy that western one.

I havn't heard to much about Putin, what do most native Russians think of him? Has he been good for the economy, unempolyment, etc..?

He's the same one that Yeltsin. Maybe the only difference is he doesn't drink too much. Credulous people love him, but clever ones generally doesn't.

Well, clever people at least find much more differences between Putin and Yeltsin, than you pointed out. :rolleyes:

And, please, keep your political discussions in Colosseum (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3), not in this С&C thread.

Warlords version is finally ready!
Now the mod feat. 55 leaders of Russia - from a legendary founder of the first Rus state Rurik - to the first Russian leader of the XXI cent. Vladimir Putin. :king:

Vanilla version also updated.

For more info, pics and files, please, check posts #1-3.

beautiful artwork...love this mod!!!

Congratulations for this mod ;) .

I "stole" 20 leaders from it for my mod, and it was very easy thanks to you (making a personnality for leaders is so boring :rolleyes: ). I have adapted them to assign some of my new traits/civics/sounds, and for that i had to verify their biographies. I could notice that coded personnalities were realistics and now i can say that you made a very good work :) . This mod is very fine :goodjob:

Wow. 20 leaders? What kind of mod are you making? Never thought somebody else could use so many Russian leaders :D

As for LeaderHeadInfos, I made a xls table and spent about a week creating numbers according to standards of Russian historiography :crazyeye:

What is really boring for me, it is pedia editing. I collected high quality articles on all these rulers, and was thinking of making a full scale interlinked "Russian History in Biographies". But gave it up till later. I wish I have some sort of pedia editor utility.

PS. I remeber you civ3 mod, by the way. It was so impressive, that I tried to adapt it to my english C3C. Though wasn't lucky enough. :rolleyes:

The general difference between them is Trotsky was obsessed by idea of World Revolution while Stalin understood craziness of this idea. Trotsky thought like man who has no motherland. Stalin was a patriot. Freedom is a strange thing. All the people have in mind different senses of that. Stalin liked soviet democracy but this is not the same democracy that western one.



He's the same one that Yeltsin. Maybe the only difference is he doesn't drink too much. Credulous people love him, but clever ones generally doesn't.


Trotsky, like Lenin and all of the original Bolsheviks was trying to continue the international world revolution of the workers started by Russia. They were fighting these idea of "motherland" and "patriot" that are put forth by the Capitalists who profit from war and will do anything they can to get people to join the army. I do not understand what you mean by "Democracy" except a Democracy in which hundreds of political opponents are executed and millions are slaughtered in purges. Stalin killed so many of the original Bolsheviks. Stalin also turned his own position into a dictatoral one with absolute power.

Looks great!!!!
But one question do the leaders have different personalities?
(Would be great if their personalities were themed with their Actual Achievements and personalities :D )

Yes, each of them has his/her own personality (as far as it possible to make different personalities in CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml).

Put you on the Warlords MOD list, thx for contributing!!

Updated for CIV 1.74 and Warlords 2.13. Nothing new, just dll compatibility (thanks to Blacksun). Mod patches available through download links.

Is this mod being updated for BtS sorry to the replier/creator if this has been mentioned already! I am not willing to read through pages and pages of historical debating and trolling!

Does anybody know who is the military guy between Kerenskij and Lenin in the first post big picture?

Is this mod being updated for BtS...
Yes, i'm going to update this mod...soon :)

Does anybody know who is the military guy between Kerenskij and Lenin in the first post big picture?
Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak, one of the leaders of the White Movement in the Russian Civil War.

Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak, one of the leaders of the White Movement in the Russian Civil War.

Huh. He was a ruler of Syberia for some time as I remember, but not more. As I understand, other pictures represent those who ruled the core of Russian state even if only formally or for a very short while. Why is Kolchak better then (let us say) Denikin? Or even Makhno? :lol:

If we put formality over a real power we can add Molotov as he was a head of the soviet government. Stalin had no formal power until 1941. If we put real power over formality then picture should be changed in many points.

Well, there are 55 Russian leaders in this mod and I'm quite satisfied with my choice. But I have neither time, nor interest in discussing, if "Kolchak better then (let us say) Denikin", sorry.

If you want other leaders, just make them and be happy.

Waiting for the BTS compatibility :)

ps. great work. Íó òî åñòü ìîëîäåö!

Back to songs for just a moment - Lyuba has a рок версия of the Soviet-cum-Russian national anthem you could put up for Putin. The contrast between the other, classic sounding, songs would be jarring but entertaining.

If we put formality over a real power we can add Molotov as he was a head of the soviet government. Stalin had no formal power until 1941. If we put real power over formality then picture should be changed in many points.

The 1953-56 period could be represented by the Khruschev-Molotov-Mikoyan троика, if you want to fill in these "connector" periods, but NeverMind seems to have made up his mind on that issue.

Nevermind, you seem to be very knowledgable about Russia. I'm making a mod for Civ Colonization, and in it Alaska will be a colony of Russia. Do you know of any leaderheads for Russia around the year 1763? And do you know of any good links or information about Colonial Alaska?

--Thanks, Californio

Yes, i'm going to update this mod...soon :)


Anything new about updating it for BtS ?

Anything new about updating it for BtS ?

Lol, that post you quoted is two years old. What do you think, is the update 'real soon now' ? ;)

is the update 'real soon now' ?

hehe :)

Anything new about updating it for BtS ? I dont think so. Maybe for Civ5, who knows... :)

Actually I've almost completed bts version of the mod almost 3 years ago, but then I wanted to add some more stuff, and more stuff... )